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ALFRED HUBBARD COIL DESIGNS

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on: July 01, 2008, 11:03:36 PM Don't underestimate the "FORCE", the magnetic field when "cornered" will "bite" and "snap" with violent fury !!!

>>>While the device has been patented, the claims for it are so broad that Hubbard says he does not feel safe in making public his secret. In general, he says, it is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. A coil thus constructed, he says, is lifeless until given an initial impulse. This is done by connecting the ends of its windings for a fraction of a second to an ordinary[two words unreadable R.L.R.] -ing circuit, he says.<<< quote from here: http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm

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Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 02:59:10 AM The following figure shows the typical model of a transmission line, with the inductance and capacitance per unit of length (lossless so no resistance included) Then we see a coupled transformer line, which is what the Hubbard coil could be utilizing (I don't believe the radium story, it's a cover up I think) But the real intriguing phenomena is to realize what happens when the magnetic field is "cornered" or "trapped". In other words, consider an inductor that has current flowing through it. If that current is suddenly interrupted (and really it can't) the voltage spikes really high. The underlying phenomena here is really deeper. A current through a coil sets up a magnetic field, and if the current is interrupted, the magnetic field will collapse. However, as it collapses, it induces a voltage (electromotive force) in the wires IN SUCH A DIRECTION TO KEEP THE CURRENT FLOWING SO THE FIELD GETS MAINTAINED. It's a type of "inertia". In other words, this is Lenz's law that says the behavior is such as to resist the change. But now consider an inductor, with current flowing in it, suddenly connected to another inductor (and disconnected from it's powering source or battery). Do you realize that now we are bringing two forces against each other? One inductor wants to have current flow at some value, and the other inductor wants to stay at zero current. It's like the scenario of INFINITE FORCE TRYING TO MOVE THE IMMOVABLE ROCK. So what gives? This is where it gets interesting, very interesting..... we can also spice up the problem and say, let the coils not even have the same number of turns, or not even be close to each other so they are not coupled magnetically, and then later consider different levels of coupling of the coils, etc.... I'll tell you what happens, there is inter winding capacitance, so when the coils are switched together in a closed loop (assuming no magnetic coupling) the coil that had a current and magnetic field will have it's magnetic field collapse rapidly depending on the design of the coil and the separation distance of the turns. Why? Because there is capacitance between the windings (usually small). The Voltage at the terminals will skyrocket according to the well knows formula V = L di/dt, where di/dt is the rate of change of the current, and L is the inductance. (we don't to complicate things, but the other differential equation for a capacitor will actually give us a partial diff. eq. that we can solve, but we'll end up with the self oscillatory frequency of a coil, etc..) However, at the same time, the other coils with a zero current through it will see this spike in voltage at its terminals which will start to drive the current through it at a rate equal to di/dt = V/L (just rearranged the same equation) , so these two coils will perform an exchange of magnetic energy with quite a snap, and huge voltage surges, which indicates that the coils need to be designed well and single turn preferably. The other case when the coils are close together and magnetically coupled gets more interesting and has a few permutations, as in, how do you hook up the coils, to have the fluxes aiding each other or bucking? more to come.....

EM P.S. Another way to visualize the Hubbard drum, is to visualize springs inside and compressing one spring and letting go will cause ripples that persist for a while. The way the coil is configured, the power is extracted only on the outside coil by a type of dragging effect, that's why it's claimed to be a pulsing DC type of current (or voltage). Other modes of resonance are certainly possible, and it should be noticed his device has an iron drum comming between the inside coils and the outer winding, so you can see why that is, it's to close the magnetic flux path from each inner coil through a sector of this outer iron pipe. A motorized version of the Hubbard coil can also be created. Place a long axial magnet on the inside of the drum and rotate it. On the outside of the drum wrap the coils and you will see a voltage. Even though there is no apparent flux cutting occurring in this scenario, the A-potential (or the magnetic vector potential) is the answer. V=u dA/dt, and the A potential certainly changes with the motion of the magnet. This type of induction is more of a dragging sort of a concept. Charges are pushed ahead of the A field disturbance.

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Reply #2 on: July 02, 2008, 10:23:12 AM Looks very much like Leedskalnin's PMH. Also needs just an tiny bit of initial energizing. What happens if you take 3-4 plain PMH devices and put them in such an arrangement that blocks current flow within each? I myself pretty sure an aetheric vortex will be created around these devices - it's about the only way to allow for current to continue flowing. It's a "least difficult route" of a kind. Logged giantkiller
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Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 04:24:25 PM @EMD, I am glad you mentioned the nix on the radioactive material. I thought the radioaction would be a possibilty to start the tuning forks ringing. Now I think differently. No more flirting with disaster. Also, Take a 3 or 4 segment, 3 layer TPU and connect the layers with caps like the LMD. It works up instead of horizontally. Current on 1st layer, diamagnetism on 3rd layer. And the added feature is the ring configuration. --giantkiller. Last Edit: July 02, 2008, 05:10:56 PM by giantkiller Logged Free Energy
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Reply #4 on: July 02, 2008, 05:53:05 PM Quote from: giantkiller on July 02, 2008, 04:24:25 PM @EMD, I am glad you mentioned the nix on the radioactive material. I thought the radioaction would be a possibilty to start the tuning forks ringing. Now I think differently. No more flirting with disaster. Also, Take a 3 or 4 segment, 3 layer TPU and connect the layers with caps like the LMD. It works up instead of horizontally. Current on 1st layer, diamagnetism on 3rd layer. And the added feature is the ring configuration. --giantkiller. Also, you have a ring. That is what Stan Deyo shows in his design. Logged EMdevices
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Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 08:27:02 PM I found a clear picture of Alfred M Hubbard in this digital archive. (circa 1924) http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/imlsmohai&CISOPTR=2704&CISOB OX=1&REC=1 Logged Free Energy
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Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 11:35:27 PM http://www.altenergy-pro.com/device02.htm This clears up alot. The tuning fork analogy holds true. http://www.altenergy-pro.com/rec.htm --giantkiller.

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Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 01:59:11 PM Howdy EMDevices, What is a Cook Coil? I did a web search and did find a Jeff Cook Coil on American Antigravity. While it is just a single winding with a number of permanent magnets around it. Your drawing depicts transformers with dissimilar wire sizes. I wound a monster of a Hubbard coil for my Soft Particle Reactor. Here is a link to a high resolution picture. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item52 And a link to the Soft Particle Reactor thread. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4255.0.html You have combined the TPU operational philosophy into the Hubbard Coil design to where the coils are being pulsed in a pattern. This is how you plan to get that pinch effect where the electromagnetic fields are bucking each other and drawing zero point energy from subspace. In my Soft Particle Reactor the primary inductors are wired in parallel, and I am pulsing them all at the same interval. I have had the TPU theory cooking in the back of my skull for a while now. That theory makes a lot of sense. Maybe it is time that I try to incorporate the TPU theory into the Soft Particle Reactor. This way there is the electromagnetic effect drawing energy from subspace and the soft particle decay drawing energy from physical space. Thanks for those fresh ideas EMDevices... Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 02:48:47 PM Nice coil, and the high definition photo is awesome, I like an organized build with attention to detail and it looks like you put in a lot of attention into it, good job !!! By Cook coils I mean the ones in the patent by Daniel McFarland Cook, see this topic here:

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Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 09:15:35 AM Let's see - the Hubbard coil uses bifilar wound coils - Cook coils are bifilar - Stubblefeld Earth battery uses bifilar coils - SM TPU uses bifilar wound coils with delay - Thrapp has multi-filar delay-line motor - Energia Celeste uses bifilar wound coils with delay one implementation uses 8 such in a circle I see lots of relationships. Earl

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Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 03:50:16 PM EM Quote A motorized version of the Hubbard coil can also be created. Place a long axial magnet on the inside of the drum and rotate it. On the outside of the drum wrap the coils and you will see a voltage. Even though there is no apparent flux cutting occurring in this scenario, Have you tried this and if so do you have any test data to prove it to be true? I would like to test this idea. Most of the reports on the Hubbard describe a non-magnetic bobbin or spool for the outer winding. Where is the reference to a ferromagnetic spool? Earl

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Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 11:35:17 PM I guess, if Hubbard coil thing can be made to work, the least you should worry about is where it gets energy. My guess is that while "war of coils" takes place in this device, turmoil it causes induces overunity potential on the main outer coil. I wonder if cores should be interconnected - must be interconnected in some way if we take PMH into consideration. Otherwise no "perpetual motion" will be "held" in these coils. Permanent magnet is required as well... Probably half of all cores are permanent magnet bars while another half are plain iron cores. Iron cores are connected with permanent magnets. I have no idea what center coil is for, though. Also, where's the source of info there are bifilar coils installed? Original picture shows 8 bars seemingly assembled into 2 groups, with 9th central bar without any apparent connections. I'm just persuading PMH idea. Can it be that 4 bars have permanent magnet cores and windings of these bars are interconnected; the same applies to other 4 bars, but they have iron cores. Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 11:57:34 PM by aleks Logged Free Energy
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Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 11:59:34 PM Here's an illustration for the idea... (hope it's obvious). Seems like central core and winding is used as a higher potential. External core and winding is used as a lower potential. Quite simple actually if we consider a vortex is created inside this structure. Well, as you've noticed I'm easy on theories. so, you too, take it easy

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Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 08:50:30 AM (of course, other ends of internal and external windings should be connected. One group of coils should be short-circuited - like in PMH.

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Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 02:53:27 PM One more idea... Windings on all iron-magnet core pairs should be wound in equal direction (CW or CCW), from top to bottom (or bottom to top). This is to ensure "magnetic current" that is held in the device goes in the same direction in all cores/windings. This will probably create "struggle" I was mentioning (current in adjacent cores will be obviously going in opposite directions). It is also possible to use all iron cores, but interconnect them with permanent magnet bridges, as shown.

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Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 05:17:25 AM Cupric Oxide? Kinda like the conductor in lamp cord used to be? The way almost all copper wire was made up until the 50/60s. The way copper surely was on the original Cook coils? That is annealed and not drawn again so they maintained flexibility. Current wire is annealed with the new process that does not include oxygen so the copper will not turn black. The old conductors would turn black easily. If you want to try annealed copper heat it to a dull cherry red and let cool on its own. Don't quench it. If you heat it right and long enough the black stuff will appear. It flakes off easily. No matter, the good stuff is under it. It is known in the PC board biz as 'Red Plague'. Also known as the first photocell. It is sensitive to more than light. Any SM words about TPUs working better with rust or oxides formed or working better over time or better after it got hot the first time? I'll see if these words mean anything. I had just finished annealing copper band for my next experiment when that great reading patent link was posted. Edit>> Add a picture since kids camera is here - garage not workbench. No flames allowed in the house!

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Reply #25 on: July 07, 2008, 01:24:57 PM Howdy Y'all, Thanks for the Praise on the Soft Particle Reactor EMDevices. I have a significant amount of time in that project. It looks like I am fixing to build another coil also. This is an excerpt from the book The Ultimate Reality by Joseph H. Cater. "During the time of his demonstrations, Hubbard made a sketch of one of his smaller generators used for ordinary electrical appliances (see Fig. 28). It was approximately 6 inches long and and 5 inches in diameter. It consisted of eight coils in series, wound on iron cores which in turn surrounded a slightly larger central coil. The central coil was wound on a hollow tube which contained many small rods. They were, undoubtedly,

comprised of soft iron. Four terminals extended from the unit. Two of them represented the outer coils which received the input current, the other two came from the central coil". "It is highly significant that both wires used in the generator appeared to be of heavy gauge, like those used in telephone or power lines with the same kind of insulation. Each core had only one layer of this wire. This means that only a moderate number of turns were used in the entire generator." There seems to be two different stories about the Hubbard Coil. One is the pre-intervention version which is an electromagnetic device which is a self sustaining electric generator. The other is post-intervention version where Hubbard claimed to have used radium to power the generator. He did work for the Radium Chemical Company and obviously tried at one point to incorporate radium into the device. The original reports of the boat on Portage Bay in 1919 have no mention of radium. This leads me to believe that the original device was purely electromagnetic. I read somewhere that Hubbard claimed to have had an Angelic vision which instructed him to build the device. I believe that this divine inspiration of the "Self Sustaining Electric Generator" is what we are looking for. After Hubbard had constructed the device and tried to either sell it or obtain funding for his research is when things went awry. Whether it was the money, women, or partying Hubbard seemed to loose interest in his coil. It could also have been pressure by some force that does not appear in the documentation, because this force "edited" the documents to protect the guilty. Considering the nature of the documents (Seattle Post articles) this editing was done in real time, meaning this force was always close to Hubbard. So what we need here and now, in order to replicate his work, is the original Angelic vision in order to clarify what Hubbard's Coil really is. From Cater's book I understand that Hubbard did not use magnet wire. The thin insulation on the magnet wire limits the flux that develops around the individual wires and causes the flux to rotate around the entire coil. By using wire with a thicker insulation we get more flux around each individual wire. This also allows more current to flow in the coil. Traditional laws of inductance may not apply to the Hubbard Coil. I think the type of wire, and the core construction are key to replicating this device. Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #30 on: July 07, 2008, 04:53:21 PM @z.monkey, just like aleks, I don't believe Hubbard used active electronics to pulse his coils. I believe it is all hapenning due to the physics of the coils, like I was trying to explain. However, pulsing the coils with active electronics in sequence would make for a nice project to test the concept. I think you got the right idea though. The sequence of these coils pulsing around the perimenter is what does it.

@ all, I've been thinking over the weekend about the simple setup shown below. Just two electromagnets. I was thinking how they would be exchanging the magnetic field and energy back and forth (after it is properly started of course). If a person is familiar with the governing equations of induction, etc.., one can follow the sequence of events. As flux decreases in one coil, the terminal voltage builds trying to keep the current flowing, but it can't flow in

the other coil since it needs to build up gradually, so the voltage spikes up and some of the current that is flowing will flow into the capacitance temporarily, but at the same time the current is increasing in the second coil and at a certain point in time the currents i1, and i2, are equal and i2 starts to surpass i1, at which point the capacitor is now giving up it's energy and current flows out of it. The process repeats. But notice, the current ALWAYS FLOWS IN THE SAME DIRECTION. Now, we can extend this to electromagnets with a PRIMARY AND SECONDARY windings and hook them up in SERIES, as I showed before. The energy will travel down this line by this same mechanism, and if the ratio of turns between primary and secondary is not the same, I'm sure this induces a preferential direction for the flux to shift, either clockwise or contraclockwise, or perhaps other physical factors determine the direction of flux flow. So, as I see it, the eight coils are the actuating part of the device and the center coil is the output coil that has current induced in it due to this dragging effect the magnetic field produces. Notice there are no pole reversals in the eight coils, they all point either up (or all point down) depending on design. So it's just like a SEARL device with the little magnets all pointing the same way and revolving around the perimetery (although his output coils are different) EM

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Reply #32 on: July 07, 2008, 07:22:50 PM Howdy, So you are saying the initial impulse of energy chases itself around the set of primary coils? Like an all inductor oscillator, or one of those transformer amplifiers? It seems like the charge would diminish over time and need to have some maintenance current, but if the thing is able to draw Zero Point Energy then It can use that to maintain the rotating charges and provide output current. Assuming the current in the primary coils is pulsed DC, it should have an interesting output waveform. Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #38 on: July 08, 2008, 03:04:35 AM Howdy Y'all,

Here's a new schematic to play with. I feel like the construction of the cores is essential to the proper operation of this device. The primary cores in my current Hubbard Coil are built with 1/2" by 8.25" iron plumbing tubes with 1/2" by 10" steel hex machine screws inside them to hold the ends on the mounting plates. I had to bore out the tubes to get a nice fit with the machine screws. I feel like this configuration is not adequate to achieve a sufficient magnetization. The cores should be built from a cluster of laminated soft iron wires with the windings as close to the wires as possible. The current Hubbard Coil also is configured with the secondary output coil on the outside of the device. It is a 4" diameter by 8.25" long black iron plumbing pipe. This configuration has seven primary coils symmetrically aligned inside the primary coil. Admittedly this was my interpretation of the Hubbard Coil. I wanted to achieve the same functionality as Hubbard but built with "off the shelf" materials. This explains the less than satisfactory performance, but that is also the fault of my operational philosophy and the drive electronics. Based on the new theories presented in this thread my Hubbard Coil and the drive circuits must be completely redesigned. The design can be simplified drastically compared to trying drive the coil with a radiant capacitor discharge actuated by a relay. After more study, the original Hubbard Coil was simpler, and that means more rugged, reliable, and cheaper. These qualities are all desirable. Eventually we may have to rely on these generators. Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #43 on: July 10, 2008, 07:32:17 PM

Howdy Y'all, So what are you saying here GiantKiller? Do you not think that a Hubbard Coil is feasible? Or are you saying the Hubbard Coil is similar to a TPU and is something worth pursuing? Hubbard lived back in the heyday of Tesla and Moray. I think that back then there was a more fundamental understanding of electricity. Electronics did not exist then and everything was a lot simpler. Now everything is overcomplicated. There are electronics in everything. I know greenhorn engineers that just can not function without a computer. There are quite a few people on this site that use their sound card for a signal source rather than designing a circuit to generate a signal. Other people here don't even know what an oscilloscope is. When they find out they download a piece of software that uses the microphone circuit on the sound card as their input to the oscilloscope software. Blech! To master fundamental problems in electricity you need to work with real electricity, design actual circuits and not simulate something on the GD computer... I would not put Hubbard on the level where Tesla and Moray are. It seems that he was given the design for his generator through some divine source and did not pursue it to its ultimate ends. Tesla and Moray were life long electrical experimenters. They are the authority on electrical phenomena. However I think the Hubbard Coil is worth pursuing. Not just because of its alleged divine source, but also because it makes sense to me. Also because I have been pursuing it for a long time and am determined to get it to work. I actually did have a little success but did not know it at the time. When I had the primary coils of the Soft Particle Reactor connected in series the device made this interesting little wave form which was down in the noise. If I had my scope connected to the coil when the driver circuit was off it made this wave form that had seven peaks. There are seven primary coils in the Soft Particle Reactor. I didn't think to connect the coils in a loop. I wasn't getting the amplitude that I was expecting and was obsessing on that . I would up reconfiguring the primaries in parallel and trying a different approach with my drive circuit. But, now, after encountering this thread, the PMH, and TPU theory, I may have been very close to getting the thing to self oscillate. Think of each primary as a 90 degree phase in a sine wave. There are eight primary coils, so we have two cycles running about the periphery of the center coil. These two cycles of a sinewave are twisting around the center coil forming a magnetic vortex. In a normal solenoid the flux is passing through the core material in straight lines at a right angle to the electron flow in the wires. What does a vortex do? It accelerates flow. By forming a magnetic vortex around a solenoid you are accelerating the flow of flux through the core material. This is where the free energy is coming from. The magnetic vortex is supercharging the center coil. Wow, that was some epiphany! I am going to wind up a new coil as soon as possible... Blessed Be Brothers... z.monkey
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Reply #47 on: July 11, 2008, 03:39:42 AM

Howdy Y'all, I have been busy... He he... The Hubbard Coil works in an Alternating Current system. When you look at this circuit from a pulsed DC standpoint it is kind of strange. But from an AC standpoint it is perfect. The reason this works as AC is the coils will develop their own wave symmetry after startup. When you start the thing you give it a large DC pulse. As the pulse gets into the system and starts to oscillate around the periphery the waves smooth out into AC. Alternatively you could stimulate the circuit using AC. I already have a driver board setup to do this. He he he... This is so cool! Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #51 on: July 11, 2008, 07:11:24 PM Lets put some icing on the cake here...

Look at the picture. As one can see the square wave is obvious. But with the resonant rise we have a ringing effect. Ringing? That is the reflected / deflected pressure from an impasse. A what? Who or what sent that back? Talk to me! I am feeling kind of omnipotent here.... The ringing frequency comes from where? I didn't do that. And the envelope even looks like a bell. Imagine that! --giantkiller.

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Reply #57 on: July 14, 2008, 02:18:26 PM @Giantkiller, amazing to see your seeming 'bell-shaped' waveform!!!I ........is it not that you are thinking to THIS? ...long story behind... ronotte

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Reply #60 on: July 14, 2008, 08:59:10 PM @Giantkiller You are getting there but you are not there quite yet. What you are looking at (I believe) is the beginning of additive or true harmonic resonance, as Tesla was continually after in his work. I like your tuning fork mental example. In a simplified understanding of basic resonance, the pulse flows through the wire, hits what appears as an electrical brick wall which absorbs the energy, which then releases it to flow in the other direction. However, the voltage was not at proper cycle and some energy is lost, and the wave does not match the spatial displacement of the next wave being sent, so the voltages actually decrease each other. The waves pulse back and forth, but die out. (Transformer action, or Non-Q basic resonance.) Now, we have another coil, where the input pulse frequency is an exact 1/4 wavelength of the length of the wire it is input into. It hits the "brick wall" at exactly full voltage. It then rebounds. At the other end it is exactly opposite, and rebounds. However, every pulse is exactly matching in spacial displacement as every other wave. These waves then do NOT cancel out each others voltage, they add to each other. However, there is only one set of frequencies flowing through the wire, so the voltage addition is limited. But the coil is "ringing", putting out a steady amplification. This is where both you and I are at at this time.

Now, what we are after is the coil where more than one frequency is based upon this 1/4 wavelength principle.With two or more frequencies in PERFECT harmony in spatial displacement, the voltage summing can RAMP, and all waves reinforce (both voltage AND current) each other. Each separate reflection of each wave will sum again with every other reflection of every other wave in the circuit. (Tesla's actual goal and main achievement in various devices.) Loner came up with an awesome manner of finding self resonance, using an armstrong based oscillator and feedback. It has no choice but to resonate at the proper frequency for whatever coil is used. HOWEVER THIS IS ONLY ONE FREQUENCY, yet his amplification has been dramatic. Massive fields are generated even with this. (read loners "TPU facts and results" thread for more info. Loner has done quite well.) What is needed is two or three such circuits driving. The first as normal, the second with a separate inductance to through it out of phase with the first, and possibly others with an inductance/capacitance tank between oscillator output and TPU input. You now see how it fits perfectly hand in hand with your understanding and description of the wave action. Paul Andrulis Grumpy
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Reply #62 on: July 15, 2008, 12:34:31 AM Has anyone noticed that Hubbard's device does not have condensers? We have a HV source, a cummutator of sorts (automobile distributor and motor), possible a spark gap other than the distributor (he has a patent for a spark plug but I can't determine if it is used in this device), cores that are possibly magnetic, and 9 coils. Sounds like he may be impact exciting the 8 outer coils by charging and connecting the primary coil. This was an alternative means to excite Tesla's "extra coil" as put forth by Steinmetz. Output would be the secondaries of the 8 with the primaries of the 8 emiting RE, and now we see why the cores might be magnetic. Something like this:

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Reply #66 on: July 15, 2008, 01:26:08 AM Howdy Y'all, Grumpy and Paul, the Hubbard Coil is supposed to a SELF Sustaining Electrical Generator. It develops and sustains its own power without external drivers or being continuously connected to batteries. The idea is the coil is inductively self resonant and it puts out power with no input. I spent years trying to drive this coil in anyway possible. Pulsed DC, AC, Capacitive Discharge, High Voltage. The main reason it didn't work was the coils were not connected in a loop. It was beyond my reasoning to connect the coils in a loop. I had to look at it a totally different way. When I saw GiantKiller's coil go into resonance it clicked in my brain. His set of air coils does this because you have a full cycle of a sinewave represented in a set of 4 coils. Basically when the voltage finishes traveling around the loop it is in its original phase at the same voltage and frequency. This allows it to continue traveling infinitely. This will work in increments of 4 coils. GiantKiller's 4 coil set is one cycle. My Infinity Coil is two cycles, 8 coils. This is why you guys have so much trouble tuning the

TPUs. The TPU only has three drive coils. They are usually driven with three different drivers. That makes it tough to achieve resonance. Plus you only have three phases represented, not a whole sinewave. The all inductor Hubbard Coil achieves resonance by it own nature. The physical characteristics of the inductors define a resonant frequency, and the device only runs at it its own resonance frequency, hence no tuning problems. The Hubbard Coil is a true power oscillator. The trick is using coils in multiples of 4 and connecting the coils in a series loop with all the windings in the same direction. You have to pay attention to the way a sinewave and an arcsine wave move around this thing. This is an Alternating Current Device, and the only way you get it to put out power is to let it resonate by itself, NOT driven! Also, yeah, No Caps! This power oscillator makes an L4 or an L8 circuit and NOT an LC circuit. Any capacitors in parallel with any of the coils will throw off the resonant frequency enough to cause the device to not oscillate. Blessed Be Brothers... Grumpy
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Reply #67 on: July 15, 2008, 01:36:15 AM Did you ever replace the iron cores with magnetized cores? What you describe is a "ring resonator" and they are not OU. Not only that, if the Hubbard device is a resonator, it would be a longitudinal one since the coils are sideways. The hubbard coil can be self-sustaining via the method I suggested. Notice that it is an open ring, rather than closed like a TPU - Safer this way. If you think EM induction is that only way anything works, then think again. Caps are not required when exciting a coil to emit RE with inductor discharge, or constant current (i.e. DC) source. It is not alternating current - it is "pulsating" - huge difference. Quote from: z.monkey on July 15, 2008, 01:26:08 AM Howdy Y'all, Grumpy and Paul, the Hubbard Coil is supposed to a SELF Sustaining Electrical Generator. It develops and sustains its own power without external drivers or being continuously connected to batteries. The idea is the coil is inductively self resonant and it puts out power with no input. I spent years trying to drive this coil in anyway possible. Pulsed DC, AC, Capacitive Discharge, High Voltage. The main reason it didn't work was the

coils were not connected in a loop. It was beyond my reasoning to connect the coils in a loop. I had to look at it a totally different way. When I saw GiantKiller's coil go into resonance it clicked in my brain. His set of air coils does this because you have a full cycle of a sinewave represented in a set of 4 coils. Basically when the voltage finishes traveling around the loop it is in its original phase at the same voltage and frequency. This allows it to continue traveling the infinitely. This will work in increments of 4 coils. GiantKiller's 4 coil set is one cycle. My Infinity Coil is two cycles, 8 coils. This is why you guys have so much trouble tuning the TPUs. The TPU only has three drive coils. They are usually driven with three different drivers. That makes it tough to achieve resonance. Plus you only have three phases represented, not a whole sinewave. The all inductor Hubbard Coil achieves resonance by it own nature. The physical characteristics of the inductors define a resonant frequency, and the device only runs at it its own resonance frequency, hence no tuning problems. The Hubbard Coil is a true power oscillator. The trick is using coils in multiples of 4 and connecting the coils in a series loop with all the windings in the same direction. You have to pay attention to the way a sinewave and an arcsine wave move around this thing. This is an Alternating Current Device, and the only way you get it to put out power is to let it resonate by itself, NOT driven! Also, yeah, No Caps! This power oscillator makes an L4 or an L8 circuit and NOT an LC circuit. Any capacitors in parallel with any of the coils will throw off the resonant frequency enough to cause the device to not oscillate. Blessed Be Brothers... Grumpy
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Reply #79 on: July 15, 2008, 04:20:04 PM Quote from: z.monkey on July 15, 2008, 11:42:27 AM So Grumpy, you have a working Hubbard Coil, that you built with your own hands? Don't need one, and I'm not ready to lose time on AG stuff to build one at the moment. Although, a very small one, about the size of a drink coaster, pulsed via a buzzing relay would not take long to do. I just noticed that the EM and ring resonator approach was wrong. Ring resonators usually take two inputs phased 90 degrees apart. Peter Ceperley developed one that only needs one input by using a perterbation - quite interesting. Coil sections in a continuous ring as well as capacitors are required - see third image below. Quote from: z.monkey on July 15, 2008, 11:42:27 AM I have never seen a Hubbard coil with an automotive distributor on it. That idea is absurd. Your applying 10s of kilovolts to the primaries and what comes out 100s of kilovolts? I have so many devices that need 100,000 volts input power.

You have never seen a working Hubbard device anymore than anyone else alive has - so you can only guess and make assumptions like everyone else. See images below for the distributor and try to explain it away. Hubbard used 11,250 volt power supply - a 10kv oil burner ignition transformer would suffice. Hell, a CW voltage multiplier would probably work, as would a flyback rectified. Plenty of schemtics online for these. Quote from: z.monkey on July 15, 2008, 11:42:27 AM This device is a current generator, I didn't say that it requires high current to start it. This is supposed to be a self sustaining generator that we can hook up to our appliances to and run them directly. Hubbard never mentioned needing a power converter to adjust the output power to the correct voltage and phase. I know I had a major epiphany concerning this device, and I do understand it. If you cannot see what I see, you don't have to ridicule me. Inferring that I look at the world with some electric arc colored glasses is also wrong. I am a seasoned professional in electronic and electrical physics. I earn my living knowing what I am talking about, not dreaming up some fantasy circuit in a science fiction novel. The only thing that melted here is my respect for you... Blessed Be Brothers... The Hubbard device is a "conversion device". Who said the motor used was an AC motor? It could have been DC. The specs for the motor are never given other than the HP. If you follow conventional thinking and theories, you will wind up at the same dead end as everyone else. Credentials don't matter. Educated people are the hardest to change. It's like the incomplete knowledge that they were taught works against them. I apologize for any ridicule. Respect for me is not required. I place little value on things like that and could care less what people think. Here is an article by Gaston Burridge regarding the Hubbard device: http://www.rafoeg.de/20,Dokumentenarchiv/10,Personenbezogenes_Archiv/,Hubbard_Alfred/The%20Hubbard %20Energy%20Transformer%20by%20Gaston%20Burridge.pdf See the two images and the component anotations?

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Reply #82 on: July 15, 2008, 04:45:33 PM Did Paul have a Hubbard Like device?

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Reply #114 on: July 16, 2008, 09:04:48 PM Everyone's confusion is confusing me. At this point - keep it simple. No resonance. Don't focus on the magnetic fields - focus on the space around and between the coils. No radioactive stuff. Just some coils - like SM said. Like squeezing water through a hose. If the following squeeze can pick up the previous squeeze, then we can gain a significant efficience by squeezing and then squeezing the same stuff again so it is more compressed. So, before we get carried away and shell out good coin that could be spent on gasoline, let's take two coils, magnet in each, and attempt to see our "effect" in the secondary. Smae wire for primaries, same length, center coil 2 times diameter of outer coil, secondary on outer coil. Look for the goods on the outer coil leads. See below:

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Reply #121 on: July 17, 2008, 12:24:43 AM Quote from: z.monkey on July 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM Howdy Y'all, A centrifugal pump forms a vortex that you could use to push, or pull water through a hose. I am using words and theories that you are not familiar with, ie Soft Particles. Grumpy, you and I have the same exact thing in our minds, our brains are using different words to describe them. I run into this all the time in international forums. You and I are both right, we just explain the details with different words... Blessed Be Brothers... I agree and encounter this too. Alek's explanations sounded "odd" until I cross-referenced the terms and then they made much more sense. All three are different perspectives of the same sort of thing. Now, this Hubbard thing is not so hard with our new perspective. The only tricky part, as with anything that is built and not "engineered" is that it has to be "tuned" to find the optimum operating parameters - which is tedious. The simple parts list is as follows: 8-pole rotary spark gap with speed control - rpm range of 1000 to 3000 (got to start somewhere) 8 outer coils with primary and secondary 1 center coil with primary magnetized cores for all coils hv power supply at 8kv to 12 kv DC (even 2k will show something) something to mount it all on Latest diagram:

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Reply #129 on: July 17, 2008, 05:25:00 PM Away from bench so, Here is what I see to do. Magnets on bottom part of loops, not shown. --giantkiller.

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Reply #132 on: July 18, 2008, 03:32:14 AM nice graphics GK, and nice joke barbosi LOL

@ all, Pay attention, this is a new theory on the hubbard coil. I've been thinking how do people arrive at these things? What do they think about? If the theory we come up with is too complex perhaps it's wrong. Hubbard did not just throw together eight coils and the central coil together just for fun and realized something is happening, in other words, I believe people build something because they have an idea in mind, but the results might just surprise them. So what did Hubbard have in mind? Did he really think about the 8 electromagnets firing in sequence? Maybe, but I think he might have had something simpler in mind. Something more related to the knowledge of the day, something having to do with basic TRANSFORMER PRINCIPLES. Here's the basics: 1) Changing magnetic flux through a core wound with a coil will induce a voltage as V = n d phi/dt, where 'n' is the number of turns of the coil 2) Two coils on the same core, and overlapping, share all the same flux, so V1 = n1 dphi/dt, V2 = n2 dphi/dt, and if we rearrange we get V1 = V2 * (n1/n2) 3)
Transformers

are assumed to conserve power so V1 * I1 = V2 *I2, and based on the previous equations

another equation can be derived I1 = I2 * (n2/n1) However, if we have a third coil in proximity to the two closely coupled coils, this coil will have a weaker coupling to the other two coils. So, consider this scenario based on the diagram below, assume n1=n2 1) We energize L1 with a voltage V1, and since L2 is closely coupled, we have V1 = V2, and I1 = I2, we expect no losses in current or voltage if we hook these two coils together, which seems like a dumb thing to do cause it's so simple. 2) However, now consider that the flux influences the center coil and induces a voltage in it. The flux does not have to go through the core it can avoid it on the outside, but the magnetic flux will seek the path of least resistance, and it's this tendency that generates our free energy. In other words we are letting the magnetic flux expand SIDEWAYS. 3) The voltage generated in this coil we will use as the signal source for the first two coils hooked together, so now we have a third voltage that tries to drive the two to resonate and amplify the voltage and current. So, V1 = V2, but we are adding a V3, so V1 is actually V2+V3, but V2 is equal to V1 so it too must be V2+ V3, but we are adding V3 so we have V1 =V2 + V3 + V3, and so on, so do you see where this is going? It's an amplifying loop, that stops when the resistance of the wires overpower the voltages and currents. Anyway, this was a bit of hand waving for me, I'll try to do more rigorous calculations in the future...the important point is to remember that the sideway expanding flux might give rise to free energy..... EM P.S. I encourage you guys to ponder this aspect of two coils tightly coupled so V1 = V2, and then consider part of the flux partially penetrating a third coil that feeds it's voltage back to one of the first two. It's one of those scenarios that boggles the mind, an iterative sort of a dynamic that takes some thought. this could be what drove Hubbard to design his coil. Or it wasn't, LOL, but it's a damn good experiment to try out. You see the center coil can resist the flux and the flux can go on the outside just fine (but higher resistance) so the tendency of the flux to spread out is what really accounts for the extra energy if any. I added the second diagram. Notice the resistor R. It has a voltage drop across it equal to V3, so then V1 = V2 is satisfied. So when you hook a load to the output that is less then the value R, the currents will INTENSIFY, to match the new conditions. by the way, this is an AC system, flux needs to change else it doesn't work. I'm getting all excited here folks, any body seeing what I'm seeing?

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Reply #133 on: July 18, 2008, 03:49:21 AM Howdy Y'all, EMDevices, hmmm... AC Transformer math? Hmmm... I think I have heard something about that... That inductive coupling that you are examining is happening with all nine coils simultaneously. It would be a very complex equation to figure out how energizing one coil effects all the others. What matters is you add some energy to this thing and the ripples go everywhere... Got Core? Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #136 on: July 18, 2008, 06:09:54 AM Howdy EMDevices, So are you starting to see how the magnetic forces spins around the central core? Spin isn't the right word maybe. Roll might be a better term. I have been thinking that this is like an electrical helical screw pump, otherwise known as a supercharger. There is an 90 degree phase difference between the points where each core is connected. Then also there is the propagation of the wave through each coil. Turn the timebase of your mental oscilloscope down and watch the wave propagate down each coil and into the next coil, ad infinitum. Watch the wave mix perfectly at the one cycle point (4 coils down). Watch the compound/complex interaction that the peripheral coils have on the central coil while their phased charges are rolling around it. This device is supergenious, far beyond Hubbard. I have a theory, none of you will like it. Hubbard supposedly received this design as an Angelic Vision. I know that Advanced Humans (Ascended Masters), Angels, and Archangels are all space faring creatures. They have ships, and way cool technology . The reason that Hubbard got this technology were "aliens" or other space faring creatures that had a benevolent interest in mankind. They knew that this device couldn't be utilized effectively at the time that they gave it to Hubbard. But they knew that there would be an urban legend about that guy with a free energy thingy. So they gave him a simplified plan for a miniature version of their electrogravity engine. Think about it, eight primary core secondary coils are eight vectors of thrust, infinite if modulate them. The central core is supporting the main inertia canceling device. The Hubbard Coil is a scale model of a UFO engine! That's pretty heavy, er, uh, antiheavy... Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #137 on: July 18, 2008, 02:32:41 PM Quote from: EMdevices on July 18, 2008, 03:32:14 AM nice graphics GK, and nice joke barbosi LOL

@ all, Pay attention, this is a new theory on the hubbard coil. I've been thinking how do people arrive at these things? What do they think about? If the theory we come up with is too complex perhaps it's wrong. Hubbard did not just throw together eight coils and the central coil together just for fun and realized something is happening, in other words, I believe people build something because they have an idea in mind, but the results might just surprise them. So what did Hubbard have in mind? Did he really think about the 8 electromagnets firing in sequence? Maybe, but I think he might have had something simpler in mind. Something more related to the knowledge of the day, something having to do with basic TRANSFORMER PRINCIPLES. Here's the basics: 1) Changing magnetic flux through a core wound with a coil will induce a voltage as V = n d phi/dt, where 'n' is the number of turns of the coil 2) Two coils on the same core, and overlapping, share all the same flux, so V1 = n1 dphi/dt, V2 = n2 dphi/dt, and if we rearrange we get V1 = V2 * (n1/n2) 3) Transformers are assumed to conserve power so V1 * I1 = V2 *I2, and based on the previous equations another equation can be derived I1 = I2 * (n2/n1) However, if we have a third coil in proximity to the two closely coupled coils, this coil will have a weaker coupling to the other two coils. So, consider this scenario based on the diagram below, assume n1=n2 1) We energize L1 with a voltage V1, and since L2 is closely coupled, we have V1 = V2, and I1 = I2, we expect no losses in current or voltage if we hook these two coils together, which seems like a dumb thing to do cause it's so simple. 2) However, now consider that the flux influences the center coil and induces a voltage in it. The flux does not have to go through the core it can avoid it on the outside, but the magnetic flux will seek the path of least resistance, and it's this tendency that generates our free energy. In other words we are letting the magnetic flux expand SIDEWAYS. 3) The voltage generated in this coil we will use as the signal source for the first two coils hooked together, so now we have a third voltage that tries to drive the two to resonate and amplify the voltage and current.

So, V1 = V2, but we are adding a V3, so V1 is actually V2+V3, but V2 is equal to V1 so it too must be V2+ V3, but we are adding V3 so we have V1 =V2 + V3 + V3, and so on, so do you see where this is going? It's an amplifying loop, that stops when the resistance of the wires overpower the voltages and currents. Anyway, this was a bit of hand waving for me, I'll try to do more rigorous calculations in the future...the important point is to remember that the sideway expanding flux might give rise to free energy..... EM P.S. I encourage you guys to ponder this aspect of two coils tightly coupled so V1 = V2, and then consider part of the flux partially penetrating a third coil that feeds it's voltage back to one of the first two. It's one of those scenarios that boggles the mind, an iterative sort of a dynamic that takes some thought. this could be what drove Hubbard to design his coil. Or it wasn't, LOL, but it's a damn good experiment to try out. You see the center coil can resist the flux and the flux can go on the outside just fine (but higher resistance) so the tendency of the flux to spread out is what really accounts for the extra energy if any. I added the second diagram. Notice the resistor R. It has a voltage drop across it equal to V3, so then V1 = V2 is satisfied. So when you hook a load to the output that is less then the value R, the currents will INTENSIFY, to match the new conditions. by the way, this is an AC system, flux needs to change else it doesn't work. I'm getting all excited here folks, any body seeing what I'm seeing? @ all

The core material is the let down and any iron or ferrite based core will eventaully saturate and close the loop resulting in a loss of momentum in the amplifying process. Air cores are needed but this calls for high voltage working to develop the power as Tesla demonstrates. Do the exercise in a vacuum and results should change. I see it matters little how the amplification is achieved, heat generation is the killer and represents massive power loss from the system and of course burnt fingers in the process1 Burn out will occur before a selfsustaining situation is reached through amplification. I think SM may have got closer than others in this and managed to sustain his inbuilt power supply by feedback long enough to impress the punters. Hoppy z.monkey
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Reply #143 on: July 18, 2008, 05:03:06 PM Howdy Grumpy,

On the contrary my device is the most simple presented here... What is complicated is the understanding of the compound/complex wave generated in the core... Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #167 on: July 21, 2008, 01:27:42 AM Howdy Y'all, The Infinity Core is wound. All I have to do is connect the wires and crank it up. I have about 28 hours of labor in it at this point. This could be improved considerably if I had a Power Miter Box and a solenoid winder. Yeah I did all the machine work with a hack saw and a file. All the windings were done by hand, all 18 of them. I documented the build in the Infinity Coil thread. The wound coil weights 17 pounds. Free Energy? "Make it so" -JLP Got Transformer ? Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #170 on: July 21, 2008, 12:55:22 PM Howdy GiantKiller, This coil is not going to be driven. We are going to give it a pulse of DC to start it. The idea here is the when you apply direct current to the coils in a loop you are going to magnetize the cores. Just a static magnetic field. All the cores are saturated with a static magnetic field. One second later you release the DC current. All the coils immediately self discharge sending ripples of energy around the infinite loop. At first this is chaos, but after a few moments the energy will self organize and the physical properties of the coil configuration will cause the energy to ring in the circuit at a specific frequency. EMD, Sort of like ringing a bell. The physical properties of the cores and coils will cause this circuit to seek self resonance. This starts the reaction in the infinity coil. There are more subtle forces that keep it going ad infinitum... Here is a new pic of the wired core... Blessed Be Brothers...

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Reply #173 on: July 22, 2008, 04:20:08 AM Needs 2 more coils and structural supports. currently held by magnets. outer coils are 40' ea. of bifilar steel & copper. center coil will be 40' copper 2x diam of outer. --giantkiller.

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Reply #197 on: July 23, 2008, 04:41:31 AM I am chasing all avenues. Period. I built devices that proved to me that I am on the right track. I share. Iron is slower in respect to what you have stated. Safety first. Then I tune. Now back to business for me. I go wind coils. Pretty in pink. And a night on the town. Testing coming soon. --giantkiller.

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Reply #198 on: July 23, 2008, 05:49:50 AM Previously some kind of server problem and the modify link goes away and posts get left screwed up. I know it ain't a perfect world. But..... Here she is in all her renown 'Pretty in pink'. --giantkiller.

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Reply #203 on: July 23, 2008, 01:19:34 PM Hereby bit explaned what I did try when spoken about Micrometals powder cores. For example T520-26 before and after machinings - just version about GiantKiller idea. khabe

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Reply #204 on: July 23, 2008, 01:22:15 PM And hereby full unit of GiantKiller - using powder cores ... khabe

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Reply #211 on: July 24, 2008, 12:58:11 PM Howdy Grumpy, Were trying to replicate the original Hubbard Coil here. The one from 1919. The one that was just coils on iron cores. No radium or high voltage drivers.. Last night I was reviewing some old documents that Pese had provided. One had a picture of Hubbard in 1919 with his hand on the device. This was the smaller one we all read about in the newspaper articles. The device in the picture was 6 inches long and maybe 5 inches in diameter. This is what we are after. I did also see a picture of what you are talking about, from 1956, with the motor, distributor, and a vertical Hubbard coil that was maybe 18 inches tall. What I am pursuing here is a solid state electric generator. I think Hubbard figured that out. While I think that your plan to build this coil is valid, it is not the path that I want to take. I want to build the most simple device based on Hubbard's original plan in the most cost effective and simple way possible. Then thoroughly document it so that other people can easily

replicate it. Of course all of this is in a state of flux, and the simplest, easiest way maybe to use a capacitive discharge ignition to drive the coils. I have not had any personal success with is project yet. So, in the end your way may be best, but I have to explore all avenues anyway to ferret out the right one. So why don't you get to work on that how to guide... http://www.linux-host.org/energy/shubbard.html Blessed Be Brothers... z.monkey
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Reply #222 on: July 29, 2008, 01:28:02 PM Howdy Khabe, We didn't stop. We need rest, been working hard! Blessed Be Brother...

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