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Kellri posted the following over at his blog: 7. Does that mean then that your own Realms campaign was
very “light” on the use of rules of any sort? I ask because I’m
Preliminary work is getting under way on the Knights & fascinated by the different ways gamers incorporate random
Knaves Alehouse for a new book tentatively entitled the elements into their games — things beyond the ability of either
OSRIC Supplemental. Discussion right now is centered on the players or referee to anticipate beforehand.
what material will & should be covered - including wilderness
travel & hazards, planar cosmology, magic item & spell Yes, it was rules-light from the viewpoint of, say, someone who plays
creation, mass combat, strongholds, aerial combat, sample D&D tournaments at GenCon, and expects everything to proceed “by the
dungeon maps and more. book.” (And I speak as the guy who won the Best Player award in the
AD&D Open at GenCon in 1984, which won me a nice trophy that came
In keeping with the spirit of OSRIC, this will be entirely an wrapped in . . . yup, diapers.)
open collaborative project by and for fans of Gygaxian 1e
AD&D. If you’ve always wanted to write for your favorite A DM’s job is to entertain their players (because the play sessions are
game, have a talent for creating old school maps and artwork, eating time out of their lives), and the DM should tailor style of play and
or just want to give us your two cents worth now is your content (HOW the game is played, from casual chatter or football-
chance. Come on over and dive in! quarterbacking to ham acting with funny voices and Shakespearean
vocabulary or even costumes, and WHAT happens: hack and slash or
I’m tempted to submit something to this myself, but we’ll see if time intrigue and solving mysteries, urban or wilderness, subterranean or
allows it. Regardless, it sounds like a very exciting project and I’ll undersea, pirates or paladins, etc.).
certainly be paying close attention to it, especially with Kellri acting as
compiler and editor. His Old School Encounters Reference is a work of Well, MY players loved to roleplay (acting), and so do I, so I played the
genius and one of the best things ever to come out of the old school NPCs to the hilt, and prepared for hours beforehand and afterwards,
renaissance. I have little doubt that OSRIC Supplemental (or whatever it knowing my players wanted to find out which NPC was related to which
winds up being called) will be every bit as excellent. other NPC, what scandals had gone on in this village thirty years back,
and so on and on and on . . . so I gave it to them. They always wanted to
TALK to everyone, and there were nights (six or seven hours of play, with
a tea-and-chips-and-chip-dip break in the middle) when no player
character even drew a weapon; it was ALL intrigue and roleplaying
conversations, confrontations, investigations, trade dickering, and so on.
Hack and slash seldom interested us (though when battle did come, all
the frustrations were let loose!), and as DM I wasn’t trying to “win” any
fights against PCs, so I tended to always give them initiative unless they
walked into a trap or bowmen with arrows ready at, say, a city gate, but
during battle I kept the pace up by demanding swift answers (like a
rapid-fire auctioneer) to “What’re you doing this round? Ten-nine-eight-
seven-six . . .” and they’d better blurt out something, or I’d move on. So it
was almost all acting, and almost no rules. Which was great for
newcomers to the game enjoying the play sessions; they were never
intimidated by the thick rulebooks. If someone jumped in to defend
themselves with a rule, I automatically “gave in,” and so was never seen
as an adversarial DM, so we settled into a playing style that suited us.
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Not for everyone, but it’s what OUR group collectively wanted. Players I make no apologies at all for the layer upon layer of exhaustive detailed
could always DEMAND we apply rules in a particular combat or Realmslore (which I still provide in answer to gamer queries in my
encounter or situation, and I would comply, but we tended to find doing thread in the Chamber of Sages at forum.candlekeep.com) that’s built up
so ate up so much time that we could have more fun “ham acting” in, that in over thirty years of play, because that’s what my players wanted.
we kept such occurrences very rare and for very important situations. Others can take or leave just as much of it as they want; I’ve always
thought that if you’re paying me or any other freelancer for providing
8. It’s interesting that your home games are so rules light something you as DM could do for yourself, given time, that we should
given the number of spells, magic items, monsters, and give you MORE than you need, so you get your money’s worth and more.
character classes you’ve designed over the years. Do you see If we go too far, ignore what doesn’t suit you - - but we never want to
any contradiction in this? shortchange you.
No. Few “newer” gamers realize how things were in the early D&D 9. How much of the material you produced in Dragon had its
hobby; how EVERYONE read DRAGON and memorized or near- origin in your personal campaign? I ask because, as a younger
memorized every word of most articles therein, plus every word of the man, I always appreciated the “lived in” feeling that articles
published rulebooks. like “Pages from the Mages,” “Seven Swords,” and “Six Very
Special Shields” evoked.
I wanted to encourage good roleplaying by having players whose
characters were faced with a spherical monster with eyestalks NOT say, My “home” Realms campaign generated a lot of what became articles,
“well, it’s either a beholder or a gas spore, so . . .” and NOT pick up a because I had SUPERB roleplayers who always wanted to find out more
horn in a dungeon treasure hoard and say, “Horn of bubbles or Horn of about the world around their characters (so when playing the characters,
Valhalla?” Or “That enemy wizard just cast a fireball, so he’s gotta be X they frequently talked to old folks or librarians or sages to find out old
level or higher! Right, we’ll—“ lore, and even asked questions like detectives to try to piece together “the
truth” when they thought clergies, rulers, or guilds weren’t telling them
Likewise, this NPC stranger your character is facing could have all sorts what was actually happened), and because ethically I felt it was only fair
of abilities and powers your PC has never seen before (because, yes, to hit my players with new monsters, spells, magic items, poisons, and so
players back them memorized things right down to monk and bard level on AFTER I’d published them in DRAGON. For one thing, EVERYONE
abilities, too, so they could right away shout “Aha! This guy’s a monk of who played D&D read or tried to read DRAGON in those days (even if
X level!”). only by standing in a hobby shop, paging through issues), so whatever a
player could remember of what they’d read helped to simulate what their
One of the best ways of doing this was to increase the number of look- character “might have heard” in life, and so “felt fairer” to me (and of
alikes and magic item and spell choices so NO ONE could keep track of course the editors had examined my writing and could “fix” anything way
them all. This dumped players out of min-maxing, using-their- out of balance or misworded; I don’t recall them ever doing so, but I felt
omniscient-rules-knowledge mode back into playing their character in they had the “stamp of approval.” The Featured Creature (later Dragon’s
the world, as their characters face the unknown. Makes the game more Bestiary) columns even carried a little note at the bottom saying the
gripping, forces better roleplaying, and makes it all more fun for those monsters published in them were “as official” as anything in the
already in the habit of roleplaying. rulebooks, so I got to contribute to the game!
As I said earlier, I didn’t think doing this was quite “fair” to my players By the way, the titles of almost all DRAGON articles were chosen by the
unless my creations (monsters, magic items, or spells) had been editors, not article writers.
published (vetted by other designers AND giving the players a chance of
having read them), so I sent them off to DRAGON. I seemed to have a
knack for crafting these things, so they wanted more. LOTS more. So I
wrote more. :}
It was all great fun, I was having a ball (and so just kept going), and from
time to time editors were giving me assignments to write more of this or
that (they still are; I just sent off a batch of new monsters yesterday).
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ROGUE FEED but the editor held onto that piece for a later (issue 34) “theme” issue on
the game. In the meantime, I had started creating monsters for the game
Ken St Andre Interview (I’m still designing them, and did so many that for a time, I was known at
SEP 17, 2009 05:54P.M. TSR as “the Monster Man”), and the monster known as the Curst was my
first publication in DRAGON, in issue 30. It was closely followed by the
My latest column for “Days of High Adventure” in The Escapist is an Crawling Claw in 32, and by then I was flooding the magazine with
interview with Tunnels & Trolls creator, Ken St Andre. Ken answers articles, which soon led to my being named Contributing Editor (an
some questions about the origins of T&T, game design, and related unsalaried title) and starting to write not just what struck me as
topics. It’s one of my better interviews, I think, and there’s more of it to interesting, but assignments from the editors (like the Ecologies
come, since Ken provided — and is still providing — me with more articles).
material than I could use for the article. Expect to see more here at
Grognardia in the days to come. 2.. You mentioned Divine Right, does that mean you’re a fan of
military/political simulation games?
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print (and probably won’t, now, with the “time jump” between the 3e needs for specific elements (“We need a pirate ship setting; where in the
Realms and the 4e Realms), though my Moonshae Isles were replaced by Realms would we find one? Where would Conan-like barbarians come
an existing “Celtic/matter of Britain” campaign Doug Niles, a TSR staff from? Do you have a larger city we could publish?”) for the unfolding
designer of the time, had been working on, and there have been many game line. I have designed, including writing rules, for the first three
additions (such as Kara-Tur) or recastings of my largely-offstage editions of the game, but have always been a freelancer rather than an
kingdoms like Unther and Mulhorand to more closely resemble real- employee of the game’s publisher.
world historical (or “Hollywood historical”) settings.
The great majority of the Realms map, cities, countries, and characters
you read about are my creations, and a fair amount of them predate the ROGUE FEED
D&D game.
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5. Do the Realms have any literary antecedents? That is, are SEP 16, 2009 07:40P.M.
there are any particular books or authors who strongly
influenced you in the creation of the setting? This is becoming a trend, the Fungus Forest has been added too.
Yes and no. No, no authors strongly influenced me in the creation of the
setting. However, the setting was born out of my love of all sorts of
fiction, particularly fantasy fiction, that I read voraciously in my youth. ROGUE FEED
Fritz Leiber’s Fafhrd & Gray Mouser tales influenced me in that when
reading the new ones as they first appeared in the pages of FANTASTIC, Retrospective: Forgotten
I noticed they were stand-alone episodes but took place in the same
setting, and that by reading a bunch of them, one learned more and more Realms Campaign Set
about the setting without the stories ever stopping to really turn and SEP 16, 2009 08:05A.M.
impart information about the world. I borrowed that idea in my fledgling
Realms stories, which concerned the aging, wheezing, sly old crook of a
merchant, Mirt the Moneylender (based on Falstaff, Poul Anderson’s
Nicholas van Rijn, and Guy Gilpatrick’s Glencannon), traveling along the
Sword Coast from port city to port city - - usually a step ahead of
creditors and foes who wanted to put swords through him!
6. In those early days, what would you say was the relationship
between the D&D rules and the Forgotten Realms? That is, did
the nature of the rules dictate how you developed the setting
or did you bend the rules where they were incompatible with
your own ideas?
I didn’t worry about rules at all; I was concerned about presenting the I’ve often said that, as a group, we gamers have very short memories.
world (which predated the game, and most of the time was already Worse than that, though, are selective memories, which we also possess
detailed in, say, a city or the lineage of a ruling family or local legends, in abundance. I bring this up in the wake of the still-ongoing debate
before the game rules came along) in full detail, so it could “seem real.” raging in the comments of my recent post about the D&D/AD&D
In many instances, describing the world for a TSR printed Realms Chronology. 1987 saw the release of the Forgotten Realms Campaign
product pointed out where there were gaps in the game rules (oops, we Set, which, for some, is as much of a harbinger of The End as I consider
have nothing to help DMs with, say, poisonous gases blown by winds the release of Dragons of Despair to be. While I understand some of the
across a battlefield), but when you see “hard” rules in a Realms game ire directed at the setting, I nevertheless remain committed to the notion
product, they were almost always written by a staff designer from my that the original boxed set describes a world whose old school pedigree is
detailed notes of the situation. I developed the 2nd Edition character no less “pure” than that of Greyhawk or Blackmoor.
stats “shorthand” for the game, purely to save wordcount when co-
writing the FR ADVENTURES hardcover, but my “development” of the Granted, the treatment of the Forgotten Realms as a brand, by both TSR
setting predated the game, so game rules couldn’t dictate it. What DID and WotC, has often been less than ideal, to put it very charitably.
influence the development of the published Realms was TSR’s wants and Indeed, Jeff Grubb’s introduction to the DM’s Sourcebook to the Realms
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(one of two books contained in the boxed set) makes this quite plain: with any essential qualities of the setting itself. If one looks carefully at
the original boxed set, what you find is a wild world beset by evil, where
About midsummer of 1986, TSR was shopping for a new communication and travel are slow and local problems loom far larger
world. We had experience in world-building under our belt, than epic, world-shattering plots.
with two versions of the WORLD OF GREYHAWK™
campaign setting, and the creation of Krynn, home of the Ed Greenwood’s own campaign was far more localized than was Gary
DRAGONLANCE Saga. This time, we were after something Gygax’s Greyhawk campaign, for what it’s worth, and the power level of
different; a world that we could continue to develop over the the PCs much lesser to boot. And this is all quite clear in the original
years that will follow, and set all future AD&D game boxed set, whose treatment of most topics is sketchy and suggestive
modules into. A place where a variety of talented rather than definitive. It’s a superb sandbox setting for heroic fantasy.
individuals could all contribute to its creation and its Now, not everyone wants a heroic fantasy sandbox and there’s nothing
development. Rather than one view, a combination of views wrong with that. However, I think it unfair to expect the Realms to be
that would grow and develop through adventures, Greyhawk or Nehwon or the Dying Earth; it was never intended to be.
sourcebooks, short stories, and books. What it is is the product of a longstanding D&D campaign, played by real
people, which puts it head and shoulders above many later beloved TSR
Please take note of the of the bolded section in the quote. As it turned settings who owe their origins solely to finding new ways to squeeze yet
out, TSR did not in fact set all future AD&D modules in the Realms, but more money from the game’s fanbase.
they certainly made a good effort at it, producing reams of Realms-
related products over a very short period of time. In the process, they If I sound defensive on this point, I apologize. I make no bones about the
certainly gave the impression that AD&D and the Forgotten Realms were fact that I have been a fan of the Realms since I first read Greenwood’s
synonymous, an impression that left a bad taste in the mouths of D&D articles in Dragon. His setting always struck me as the kind of campaign
fans. I wish I had run — not just the setting itself, although I did love it, but
also the group of regular, steady players whose characters grew slowly
Coming as this did so soon after the ouster of Gary Gygax from TSR, a over time and many exciting adventures. That doesn’t blind me to the
mythology has grown up around the Realms that I think is both untrue fact that, over the years, the Forgotten Realms product line has included
and unfair. If one examines the Campaign Set on its own merits, it’s not many, many silly things and has thrived on a constant stream of
much different than what was found in the 1983 World of Greyhawk auctorial one-upmanship in an effort to sell more supplements and
boxed set. There’s more room given to NPC descriptions, it’s true, but the novels. But I don’t think that has any more bearing on the quality of the
vast majority of those NPCs are 9th level and below — precisely the sorts original Campaign Set than does the existence of the Rose Estes
of people with whom an average adventuring party would likely interact. Greyhawk novels (or, for that matter, the later Gygax-penned “Gord the
There are a handful of higher level NPCs, including the much-reviled Rogue” books) have on the World of Greyhawk.
Elminster, but their descriptions make them appear almost as “scenery,”
no different than describing noteworthy cities or landmarks. There’s Critics often forget that the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set was the last
little implication that Elminster or Khelben Arunsun are traveling the campaign setting released for First Edition. Though the 2e era is where
world, righting all its wrongs. If anything, the implication is exactly the the Realms were flogged to death, it was 1e that gave birth to it and that’s
opposite: evil in the Realms is too strong for any one person or group of quite visible in the product itself, if one cares to read it with unbiased
persons to overcome, which is where the PCs come into play. eyes. In reviewing my copy for this retrospective, I found myself able to
forget all that came after it and enjoy it for what it is: a huge, wide-open
I think it’s here that one of the largest fault lines lies for those who setting drawn in broad strokes, just waiting for individual referees and
dislike the Realms. The Realms in unambiguously a world in need of players to fill in the details — exactly what a good campaign setting
“heroes,” not merely “adventurers.” A Realms character is far less likely should be.
to be venal and self-interested, doing good more by accident than by
design. As a fan of morally ambiguous protagonists, I can certainly
appreciate this critique of the Realms, even if I don’t find it a damning
one. Not all fantasy literature is Howardian/Leiberian swords-and-
sorcery and not all swords-and-sorcery tales exist in a moral vacuum.
There is room for a type of fantasy where fighting evil is the primary
focus.
The problem, I think, is that, when the Realms made their debut, TSR
attempted to push the setting as its sole vision of what D&D was and
should be. You either signed on to it or you were left out in the cold. At
least that’s how it appeared to many gamers, who soon resented the
Realms and its popularity, all the while forgetting that much of what they
disliked about the setting had more to do with TSR’s marketing than
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ROGUE FEED Like parents naming their child, a player’s choice of name for his
character is a statement and I think it’s almost always better if that
Update statement can be made without any strings attached.
SEP 15, 2009 04:51P.M.
That’s why I don’t hand out a list of “acceptable” names to my players or
A nice update to the Fungus Forset has been posted. This is a huge level, vet their choice of name, even if I don’t really like it or consider it
and it will be posted over a period of time. somehow peculiar. I do this, first, for the reasons I stated in the previous
paragraph and, second, because experience has taught me that “silly”
names generally resolve themselves over time. Characters with purely
joke names don’t last long, because their players tend not to care even
ROGUE FEED minimally about them. They make foolish mistakes and engage in self-
destructive actions and, before long, Zippo the Fire Mage is no more.
The schedule is a changing
SEP 15, 2009 03:53P.M. Of course, that doesn’t always happen, especially a character with a silly
name somehow manages to survive in spite of it all. In such cases, the
So, the planned releases are undergoing a revision. Nothing is being player starts to treat them as something more than a random collection
dropped, in fact a book is being added. Starting next year there will be of stats and, once in that state of mind, they start to think differently
three Colonial Gothic releases. As things stand now, there will be a about the character. That’s one of the parts of gaming that really
release in the Sping, Summer and Winter. intrigues me: the moment when a character is “born” from a collection of
random game statistics. Many characters never truly come alive, but
Why all of this? To meet demand. enough do that I enjoy watching it happen.
So what is coming? What I have noticed is that, once it does happen, the player of such a
character starts to attempt to rationalize everything about his character,
Have patience. I can tell you that both the Gazetteer and French so that it “makes sense.” If the character has a genuinely silly name, the
Indian War book is out next year. The third book will be kept under player will try to rationalize that too, claiming it’s a nickname or nom de
wraps. guerre or creating a backstory to explain it. I never insist on such things
to start, since there are no guarantees in my games and characters might
Next year is shaping up to be a big year for us. In all 6 books will be well not live long enough to justify such effort, but neither do I
released next year. You will have Colonial Gothic, Thousand Suns, and a discourage them. My feeling is that characters are made in many
little game we’ve been talking about called Shadow, Sword & Spell. different ways and some of the best ones I’ve ever encountered came into
being weeks or months after their first appearance, once they’d had a
chance to get a few adventures under their belts and become more than
just Fighting Man #6 or The Thief.
Rationalizing silly names is made easier if the referee keeps his campaign
ROGUE FEED setting only as detailed as it needs to be for play. Too much detail means
that players must conform their characters to the world from the start
In Praise of “Silly” Names and, except in very specific circumstances, that’s not something that
SEP 15, 2009 10:42A.M. interests me anymore. I’d much rather give a wide berth to my players
and then worry about fitting their characters into a grand scheme later, if
In preparing my online Dwimmermount campaign, I was reminded of ever. Besides, one of the joys of old school refereeing is rolling with the
something I missed about so many of my campaigns of old: “silly” punches and making things up on the fly. Finding ways to incorporate
names. Now, by “silly,” I don’t necessarily mean absurd or ludicrous silly names into a campaign setting is pretty small beans, when you think
names, like Groucho or Sneezy, although names like that are among about it, and, much like rolling randomly for many things, silly names
those I seek to praise in this post. Perhaps a better word is can sometimes be a good way to shake a referee out of a rut, encouraging
“inappropriate,” although even that isn’t quite right. him to think differently, even whimsically, about his game. That’s always
a good thing.
You see, I have this strange notion that a character’s name is important.
All characters should have names, even in old school games with a high I may be biased, of course, since several characters from my old
mortality rate. Naming one’s character is one of the things that separates campaigns had silly names that, over time, ceased to be silly as the
even combat-intensive RPGs from wargames, which is why I’m insistent character survived and developed beyond being a collection of numbers
on every character’s having one. I also feel a character’s one is one of the on a sheet of paper. Likewise, I know all too well my predisposition
few things a player can freely give to his character without having to take toward stolid seriousness. Silly names are good medicine for my soul and
into account dice rolls, game mechanics, or any other external factors. help remind me that I’m just playing a game. The point is to have fun,
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after all, and if one of my players has fun by calling his character’s ambivalence: you either love her writing or you hate it. For myself, I love
henchman Justin Case, who am I to argue? Indeed, why would I even it, although I’ll admit that I cannot take it in large doses, as it’s
want to argue? Looking at the earliest RPG campaigns like Blackmoor exceedingly rich — “florid,” some might call it — and I find it very easy to
and Greyhawk, silly names were pretty much par for the course. Silly get lost in it without any real comprehension of what I’m reading.
names don’t necessarily imply silly campaigns and, even then, so what? I
think we could all use a lot more silliness in our lives. That’s particularly true of her 1978 novel, Night’s Master, which is the
first in her “Tales from the Flat Earth” series. The series is so called
And so I salute the memories of Morgan Just(ice), Hercles, Ogla O’Dell, because they take place in a fantasy realm that really is a gigantic, flat
Ichabod Duck, Theinberger the Thief and his brother Weinberger, square floating within a sea of eternal chaos. Above the Flat Earth is the
Dalastie Dave, and countless others I have forgotten. My gaming was all Upperearth inhabited by the ethereal, distant gods who have little to no
the better for the existence of these characters. contact with the mortal beings that live below. Beneath the world is the
Underearth, which is the realm of demons, who, unfortunately for
humans, are not nearly so distant as are the gods.
ROGUE FEED The novel itself concerns Azhrarn, who is the Prince of Demons, who
functions both as its protagonist and antagonist — such is the conflicted
Superheroes nature of this otherworldly being and his relationship with the human
SEP 14, 2009 11:13A.M. beings he at once despises and loves, as they give meaning to his
existence. The book itself is a peculiar one, both in form and content. I’ve
Does anyone have any idea about the origin of the term “superhero” in already noted that Lee’s writing is rich, possessing a dream-like quality
early RPGs like OD&D and RuneQuest? I suppose it’s possible that it’s to it, which is perhaps fitting since Night’s Master is less a traditional
ultimately derived from comics and then re-purposed in fantasy gaming, novel and more a collection of episodes in which Azhrarn engages in his
but I don’t get the sense that that’s the case, or at least I get the sense task of inspiring wickedness in humanity. There’s a dark fairy tale quality
that there’s more to it than that. Mind you, that’s purely a gut feeling to the entire book and Lee is very good in maintaining this quality
rather than anything more substantive, so I’d love to know the truth of throughout. As I said, her writing is not to everyone’s tastes, but there’s
the matter. no denying that her talent.
Anyone out there know? Compared to many treatments of Lucifer-like characters, Night’s Master
is much more subtle and complex. While we’re clearly meant to
sympathize with Azhrarn on some level, he doesn’t come across as a
heroic but doomed rebel, a prototype for idealistic revolutionaries
ROGUE FEED striving against irrational tyrannies and I’m grateful for that. Azhrarn is
a very unpleasant being and his actions are usually despicable. What the
Pulp Fantasy Library: Night’s novel does do, though, is provide some insight into what drives the
Prince of Demons to do what he does and it’s here that I find it most
Master interesting. Far from being a black hat from central casting, Azhrarn is a
SEP 14, 2009 08:09A.M. fully-realized villain — but villain he is. Night’s Master is thus an
excellently mythological take on the psychology of evil, set in an
interesting world and supported by gorgeous prose. Even if you don’t
enjoy it as much as I did, I think it’s worth reading at least once.
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ROGUE FEED both, as I think many gamers from that era do, even though now, in
retrospect, I can what they presaged for the game and the hobby. The
The start of a new update Master Rules are thin gruel intended to fill out a schematized business
SEP 11, 2009 08:21P.M. plan rather than any compelling need within the game. There’s yet more
licensed properties (Lankhmar) and even more modules than 1984. Of
We have not forgotten about this project. We have just been a bit busy, these, only Gary’s The Isle of the Ape is a stand-out and even it is marred
and waiting on some of the volunteers to turn in their sections. We have somewhat by its heavy use — and dependence on — material from
a new one getting ready to go live now. How does a Fungus Forest Unearthed Arcana. However generous one is willing to be to 1983 and
sound? 1984, I don’t think one can easily argue that the Old Ways were all but
dead by 1985.
You can see the maps at Level 2B — The Fungus Forest. The key will be
posted over the next few days. 1986
Not one but two hardcover books released this year, both of them largely
worthless (though I loved them as a young man). Clearly, TSR had come
to the conclusion that more hardcovers equals more cash and ran with
ROGUE FEED that idea, laying the groundwork for what was to come. The Immortal
Rules are even less useful than the Master Rules, being effectively a
Thoughts on D&D;/AD&D; different game entirely and not a particularly interesting or well-
designed one at that. If I’m going to play a wacky immortal in training,
Chronology (Part II) I’d rather play Tom Moldvay’s Lords of Creation any day of the week.
SEP 11, 2009 07:14A.M. Tons of modules, most of them forgettable, appear this year as well. The
only standouts in my opinion are B10, which is unexpectedly good, and
Here is another collection of random thoughts related to Chris the Blackmoor modules.
Tichenor’s chronology of D&D/AD&D products. Today’s post begins with
1983, an important transitional year in my opinion. 1987
Yet more hardcovers and not very good ones at that. It’s also the dawn of
1983 the Pre-Fab Campaign Age, with the release of not just the Forgotten
Though my fondest memory of this year is the release of Monster Realms Campaign Setting (which is better than its reputation among old
Manual II, for which I still have an inordinate love, the main event was schoolers would suggest), but also Kara-Tur and the GAZ line for D&D
the publication of the Frank Mentzer-edited Basic and Expert sets. My (which is more of a mixed bag in my opinion). Lots more modules —
love for these is not great, as I’ve noted before, but I’m apparently in the including the Official RPGA Tourney Handbook — but, once again, only
minority among gamers, since, by most accounts, these were the best- the Blackmoor modules hold much interest.
selling versions of D&D ever. I personally find them too slick and
soulless, compared even to Moldvay’s rules and there’s no question that 1988
the esthetics of the Mentzer edition are rooted in the Silver not Golden One more sub-par hardcover, Greyhawk Adventures, and tons of
Age. 1983 also sees the release of a large number of modules, including campaign setting accessories, both for the Realms and the Known World.
the conclusions to the “Desert of Desolation” series and Ravenloft, Indeed, the number of actual adventure published this year is negligible,
forerunners all to what awaits the hobby in the following year. as they give way to setting information as the new cash cow of TSR,
something that would reach its fullest flower in a few years. This is also
1984 when Castle Greyhawk appears, a module whose origins and purpose
With the exception of the D&D Companion Rules, which I actually remain subjects of much debate more than 20 years later. Regardless of
enjoyed, the majority of this years releases were modules — a lot of the true intentions behind it, I think it’s a fitting capstone to the end of
modules, most of them quite forgettable. Among them are the first five the post-Gygax AD&D.
Dragonlance modules, about which I’ve written before. I also notice two
other things. First, there are a couple of licensed modules (the Conan
ones), but also a great many geared toward supporting the Basic, Expert,
and Companion rules sets. That’s almost as big a story as Dragonlance
in some ways, since it suggests that TSR sees adventure modules as the
pre-eminent support product for these lines and, by extension, the
primary means by which the game is meant to be played.
1985
Not a good year in my opinion, although many products made their
debut, among them Oriental Adventures and Unearthed Arcana, two
flawed “classics.” I call them classics because I have fond memories of
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Days of High Adventure A. Yes. The mechanic is perfect for a game of this type. Dolphin is more
SEP 10, 2009 05:06P.M. narrative in the type of adventures you run and play in. 12° is a good
mechanic, that when you take it to the core, allows for easy task
I’d neglected to mention that The Escapist, an online magazine covering resolution. It does not get in the way, and does not make things too
gaming and gaming culture, recently began a weekly column called complicated. The type of actions that take place in the game, needs a
“Days of High Adventure,” which is dedicated to tabletop roleplaying mechanic like 12° to drive it.
games, particularly those of an old school character. I’m fortunate
enough to be one of their regular columnists, along with Allen Varney, Q. If you are using 12° will this be similar to how the mechanic is used
Monte Cook, and fellow blogger, Christopher Brackett of A Rust Monster in either Colonial Gothic or Thousand Suns?
Ate My Sword.
A. No. Both of those games are different in tone and the type of rules you
Aside from the opportunity it’s afforded me, I’m particularly pleased to need are different as well. Both games need — let alone require — rules
see this column in a widely read and much-respected “outside” gaming allowing for Skills, structured combat, and add on features that a game
journal. It’s rare nowadays that tabletop RPGs get much exposure in the such as Dolphin does not require. The best example of this is Skills. Both
wider world, so I’m very grateful to the editors of The Escapist for Colonial Gothic and Thousand Suns need them. Dolphin does not. Why?
expanding their focus into the part of the gaming world I love best. For a couple of reasons.
First, the player characters are all dolphins, and because of this, they
pretty much are all able to do the same things. What Dolphin will do is
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fight, it is a Strength Test. Abilities — in Dolphin — set your skills. This is
[Dolphin] Q&A; similar to what is done in Toon, but unlike Toon, you will not have a list
SEP 10, 2009 04:58P.M. of skills listed under each ability. Instead, all Tests, are driven by the
appropriate ability.
Before I dive into the next post, there are a few questions I want to
answer. These are answers to some emails, tweets, and messages I have Secondly, these are dolphins after all. I am going for a different tone with
gotten since I first started talking about this. this game, and because of this, I do not need the complexity that is found
in Colonial Gothic and Thousand Suns.
Q. Is Rogue Games going to publish this?
Q. So what is the tone? You mentioned Finding Nemo before, are you
A. Yes. trying to do a game like that?
Q. When will this be released? A. Yes, and no. What I want with Dolphin is a game that allows me to run
— and play — adventures that are more drama. I want to run a game that
A. When it is done. can be more cienamtic, as well as one, that does not bog down the play.
What I am doing with this game, and what the players have been doing,
Q. Really, there is no plan to this? is more narrative.
A. No. Anyway, this should bring you up to speed on the what and how. Next
post will be about the setting.
Q. You’re crazy.
Posted in entertainment, Games, Rogue Games, thoughts Tagged: 12°,
A. Yes, I know. That is not a question by the way. design notes, Dolphin, game design, Games, Rogue Games, thoughts,
A. Yes.
A. Yes. All characters are dolphins. The entire game takes place under
the sea.
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Here Howe, says he, (and marks the track,) But oh ! how we hurried and scurried,
The British troops did proudly form ; Our cowardly enemies scorning ;
And here with adverse lines compact, There we run away over night,
Brave Washington did swell the storm. And there we waited till morning.
‘Twas here I was, and points the spot, Parliaments squabble and gabble,
(As he had traced on the ground,) Ministers wonder and stare ;
What bursts of thunder, showers of shot, Armies march backwards and forwards,
Yet there great Washington was found. Americans stand as they were.
At Monmouth’s plains, where Lee retreated, But oh ! how bloody and stout,
Great Washington did then push on ; Struts the commander-in-chief ;
Sir Harry’s chosen troops defeated, He’s as sharp as a snipe at the snout,
Then laugh’d his tyranny to scorn. And lacks nothing but wisdom and beef.
These happy days are yet to come, This lord bids him go up,
Then why repine at such a fate ; That lord makes him run down,
Bear well the woe that is your doom, T’other drives him first backwards and forwards,
And joy can never come too late. And a fourth makes him skip and turn round.
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ROGUE FEED information for my tastes, but I suspect I’m in the minority on this score.
1977
This year is an interesting year. We see the first AD&D product — the
Monster Manual — as well as re-working of the LBBs into an “intro”
product. The only support products are more geomorphs, monsters and
treasure assortments, and character sheets. From my perspective, the
complexion of the game hasn’t changed all that much. The MM is still, in
many ways, a support product for OD&D, despite its branding, since the
stats are quite compatible (indeed there are some OD&D-isms scattered
throughout the text) and the monster format of OD&D isn’t conducive to
ease of use. Granted, I do think the MM frequently provides too much
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1982: Adventures:
Accessories: B6 The Veiled Society
Monster Cards, Sets 1-4 B7 Rahasia
B8 Journey to the Rock
Adventures: BSOLO Ghost of Lion Castle
B4 The Lost City C3 The Lost Island of Castanamir
I2 Tomb of the Lizard King C4 To Find a King
I3 Pharoah CB1 Conan Unchained!
N1 Against the Cult of the Reptile God CB2 Conan Against Darkness!
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Adventures:
B1-9 In Search of Adventure (re-print)
C6 Official RPGA Tourney Handbook ROGUE FEED
CM8 The Endless Stair
CM9 Legacy of Blood Retrospective: Masks of
DA3 City of the Gods
DA4 Duchy of Ten Nyarlathotep
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H3 The Bloodstone Wars
I3-5 Desert of Desolation
I11 Needle
I12 Egg of the Phoenix
I13 Adventure Pack I
IM2 The Wrath of Olympus
IM3 The Best of Intentions
M4 Five Coins for a Kingdom
M5 Talons of Night
N5 Under Illefarn
OA3 Ochimo: The Spirit Warrior
OA4 Blood of the Yakuza
S1-4 Realms of Horror (re-print)
X12 Skarda’s Mirror
X13 Crown of Ancient Glory
1988:
Hardbacks: Masks of Nyarlathotep has often been called the greatest adventure ever
Greyhawk Adventures written for any roleplaying game and such praise is not undeserved.
Published in 1984 for Chaosium’s Call of Cthulhu, Masks might be called
Boxed Sets: “an Adventure Path done right.” Starting with a scenario set in New York
City System (orange box Waterdeep set) City, when an old friend of the Investigators asks for assistance shortly
before his suspicious murder, the adventure soon takes on global
Accessories: proportions, with clues pointing to London, Cairo, Kenya, and Shanghai.
DM’s Design Kit In each city, the Investigators gather more clues about the actions of a
FR3 Empires of the Sands cult dedicated to the Crawling Chaos and seeking to usher in the reign of
FR4 The Magister the Great Old Ones upon the Earth.
FR5 The Savage Frontier
FR6 Dreams of the Red Wizards Two things, in my opinion, make Masks stand out. First, once the New
GAZ5 The Elves of Alfhiem York scenario is completed, there is no single “right” way to proceed. The
GAZ6 The Dwarves of Rockhome players may choose to pursue any of the clues they’ve amassed anywhere
GAZ7 The Northern Reaches around the world. There’s no expectation that the London scenario will
GAZ8 The Five Shires immediately follow the New York one, for example. This gives a great
GAZ9 The Minrothad Guilds deal of freedom to the players, something that’s essential in investigative
GAZ10 The Orcs of Thar scenarios if they’re to avoid feeling like railroads. Second, while there is a
REF5 Lords of Darkness “ticking clock” to keep the Investigators moving briskly to defeat the cult
of Nyarlathotep, it’s a long enough one that they can afford to take their
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Cthulhu adventures, it pays to be methodical and hunt down every scrap
of information you can get your hands on. Knowledge is more than Miniatures Contest
power; it’s the key to life and death. SEP 08, 2009 07:24P.M.
Of course, the flexibility and open-endedness of Masks comes with a Center Stage Miniatures has licensed the right to produce Swords &
price: it’s a very complex adventure for the Keeper to run. There are five Wizardry miniatures, and they are running a contest for Knockspell
different “main” scenarios in total, each of which includes many minor Magazine readers! Write up the best new monster and Center Stage will
and side adventures the players might choose to undertake. Likewise, the sculpt it and put it into their Swords & Wizardry line. Here are the rules:
interconnections between the scenarios, as well as with the overall (1) it has to be a monster; (2) it has to be roughly human-sized; (3) the
arching plot of the cultists, are many and take some effort to keep description has to be in Swords & Wizardry format; (4) the winner has to
straight. There are dozens of NPCs too, most of whom have secrets of sign a contract allowing Center Stage to produce the minis for as long as
their own. The end result is a massive, occasionally bewildering they want to. There’s not a money prize, but it isn’t every day you get to
adventure that, if handled properly, is arguably one of the most see one of your own creations immortalized in metal.
interesting adventures the hobby has ever produced and certainly one of
the best ever produced for Call of Cthulhu. Handled by an inexperienced How to enter the contest: send your monster description, in Swords &
or untalented Keeper, though, Masks is likely a recipe for disaster. Wizardry format, to centerstagehobbies@yahoo.com, attention Matt
Solarz, who is the president of Center Stage Miniatures. Center Stage will
Still, I count myself among the many admirers of this adventure. I called judge the entries, and the winning entry will be sculpted and sold in the
it an “Adventure Path done right” above and I firmly believe that. Rather Swords & Wizardry line of miniatures, as well as being published in the
than having a single path from scenario to scenario, players are free to magazine. The monster description will also be printed on the packaging
take whatever route they deem best. Investigative scenarios are very for the miniature, with your name as author.
prone to railroading and often founder on a single undiscovered clue. By
providing such an open-ended structure, players won’t feel as if their The first contest runs from September 1, 2009 until December 31, 2009.
actions are dictated by the plot nor should they run into many brick Fire up your creativity and make some monsters!
walls. Consequently, Masks has an almost sandbox-like quality to it,
making it superior to most other Call of Cthulhu offerings, including
Shadows of Yog-Sothoth. It’s a very demanding format, both to produce
and to run, which is why I suspect so few products have followed in its
footsteps. That’s a pity, because Masks ably takes full advantage of all the
qualities that make roleplaying games unlike most other forms of
entertainment, most especially the ability of the referee to improvise
based on what he already knows about the overall scenario.
If I have any real complaints about Masks of Nyarlathotep it’s that, like
so many Call of Cthulhu adventures, it doesn’t feel particularly
Lovecraftian. Sure, the bad guys serve Nyarlathotep and there are lots of
Mythos-related tomes and creatures to be encountered, but the whole
things feels more like a pulp serial or an Indiana Jones movie than an
exercise in cosmic horror. I’m willing to overlook that, since I’m not
convinced that cosmic horror would actually be all that fun to play and
because Masks is such a brilliant adventure in its own right, so brilliant
that, it’s definitely deserving of the accolades it receives in many
quarters. Is it the best adventure ever written? That’s really hard to say,
since tastes — even my own — vary, but it’s without a doubt in
contention for the title and well worth a look if you’ve never had the
chance to do so.
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