Conditioning Versus Pointing

Conditioning is a broad term and I choose to be more specific in this area. As a game fowl breeder and cock fighter I employ natural conditioning for Battle Stags, Battle Cocks, and Brood Stock differently. Natural conditioning is where I try to use natural products and vitamin supplements to get the game fowl into excellent physical and mental condition. My natural conditioning method is not complicated or unique in the game fowl world. I will try to explain each method after I explain a bit about Pointing. Pointing is that final physical and mental preparation usually beginning 36 hours before the fight or sabong. During the Pointing period we monitor their foods and water, institute some form of carbohydrate loading to augment their muscular performance and monitor their weight. We are also careful to give them much rest during this period. I do not advocate using other than vitamin B-12, B-complex like Sagupaans Complexor 3000 and water soluble vitamins and electrolytes when Pointing your birds. Personally, Using steroids, or hormone supplements and of course the ever famous, guaranteed to make your birds win, Kipuku elixir injectable to use 2 hours before the fight will eventually result in disasterous results. My advice.. Keep it natural! Keep it real! Maintenance Conditioning Basics. Keeping sick or malformed birds is discouraged. To fight well or to breed healthy game fowl you must start with the best quality birds you can afford. Birds MUST be immunized according to the veterinary recommendations for your area. Most local poultry feeds supply stores around the world can help you develop a vaccine program. I have posted my vaccine program and information on the vaccines on my website. Like all breeders and cockers I too have had birds that I have purchased as stags die suddenly when they reach 18 months old and also those beautiful cocks that get tired and are gasping for air after one buckle when sparring. I will not tell you why these happened as you must study and learn about game fowl diseases and vaccines here but both conditions would have been averted by vaccinating the game fowl as chicks. Just as vaccines protect your birds from viruses and most diseases, delousing, deworming and bacterial flushing according to routine will eliminate those parasites that will steal your game fowls stamina and good health. Feeds during the ranging period are a Super conditioning grain mixture. I supplement the natural grains with water soluble vitamins daily, and vitamin B with iron injections twice monthly

Broodstock
Preconditioning of Broodstock
Inject the Broodstock against NCD, IB, IBD, and FOWL POX before breeding. Do a deworm 7 9 days before putting the Brooder. Take a bath of mite free shampoo after deworming. Shave the butt of male and female to make sure that the cells will come inside. Do a bacterial flushing in 3 days to make sure that the cock has no any kind of diseases. Give Selectrogen Electrolytes with vitamins and minerals and B50 Forten

every day. Give the Male and Female of .5ml B Complex with Iron. Give vitamin E gel capsule once a week for brooder and cock. Give 2 parts of breeder pellets and 1 part hiprotein derby pellets during the priming. Conditioning of Broodstock While Breeding. Feed Broodhens Breeder Pellets 2 Parts mixed with Derby conditioner 1 Part. Feed Broodcocks a Hi-Protein derby pellets 1 part mixed with derby conditioner. Feed volume about 30 35 grams per feeding 2 times daily and separate the male from the females when feeding. Administer mixed electrolytes with multivitamins and minerals in water Daily. Give Sagupaan B50 Forten anti-stress every other day. Inject the Broodcock with .5cc injectible iron supplement every 15 days. Now lets look at fight conditioning.

Conditioning Battle Stags To Fight

Battle Stag conditioning requires more of your attention than cocks as they are still young and are still prone to injury. At 3 to 4 months they are still eating Stag Developer and at this time we introduce a mature hen into their area to help spur their maturity. The presence of hens seem to calm them down also. At 5 months old I move them to flypens, with a roosting height of 5 feet that I gradually raise to 7 feet to allow the exercise. Their ranging areas have roosts at 4 feet. Generally I keep them in the fly pen with the hen close by every other week then the in between week they are in a scratch box 1 hour a day. As they mature they will become cocky so that is the time to cord the stag with a pali just longer than the pali for cocks. Exercises for stags are not recommended and the extra cord will give them extra room to roam. When corded I switch them to conditioning grains. By the time they are going to the fly pens I am giving them 75% Stag Developer and 25% Grains, The next week 50-50% and the third week 25% Stag Developer and 75% grains. Once corded they are feed full Developer Grains. I administer vitamin B-complex like Sagupaans Complexor 3000 weekly to the stags at 3ml per bird and add multivitamins to their water. When training for a Stag Derby I do not exercise them just rotate them between the Flypen at 3 days a week and Scratch Box also 3 times a week. I will spar them twice during this 21 day natural conditioning period but one buckle only and the buckle lasts only 30 seconds. For feed during the 21 day fight conditioning period we switch to a high protein derby conditioner To enhance their scratching exercise and to help us monitor their moisture content in the mornings we feed dry in the morning and wet in the evening. During our 36 hour pointing period we do carboloading of our Battle Stags.

Conditioning Battle Cocks and Bullstags for the Arena

There are many models for battle conditioning Bullstags and Cocks for the arena and most will follow a 35, 28 or 21 day regimen. I follow a 21 day routine of deworming, delousing, bacterial flushing, sparring, supplementing vitamins, scratching exercises, flypen exercising and reducing moisture content in the birds. Feeds during our 21 day conditioning keep are Sagupaans derby conditioners Winning Line mixed equally with their Ready To Fight packaged feed. This is my choice feed for our cocks here in Luzon and there are many other good brands and feeds available. Choose a brand and blend that conditions your birds at your location. To enhance their scratching exercise and to help us monitor their moisture content in the mornings we feed dry in the morning and wet in the evening. During our 36 hour pointing period we do carboloading of our Battle Stags.

ACF CONDITIONING
(date) (day) 4-Cock Derby (name) :Handler * (name): Gaffer (date) (day) 5-Cock Derby (name): Gaffer
Age 2 2 2 2 decision Fights Backup Catchcock Fights weight Trgt wght 1.950 2.350 2.1 1.8 1.950 2.300 2.050

Wing Tag

Breed

RJN-96 RJN-31 RJN-20 RJN-94

GREY L/H K S/H

Sample Plan Month/sabong 1st sparr weight 2nd sparr weight May 31 2008 (Saturday) 4-Cock Derby, Mabiga A 2.0 A MAY/JUN 08 MAY/JUN 08 B 2.250 MAY/JUN 08 A 2.1 A May/Jun 08

RJN-31 RJN-20 RJN 27

L/H K

2 2

June 2 2008 (Tuesday) 5 Cock Derby MAY/JUN 08 B 2.250 MAY/JUN 08 A 2.1 2.300 2.050

JUSTINESSA 1050 ACF-04 ACF-05 ACF-07 ACF-02 (2XWIN)

S S/K S/K K/H H/K

July 6 2008 (Sunday) 3 Bull Stag Derby, Mabiga JAN 07 JAN 09 JAN 09 JAN 09 JAN 09 JAN 09

Brood Cock

Molting

Sample Plan DAY DATE FEEDING PROGRAM VITAMINS & SUPPLEMENTS ACTIVITIES AND EXERCISES

20 19 18 17 Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten Vibreflex(0.3 CC). Wormer Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten

May 11 12 13 14 Selectrogen Plus MVM. Wormer B50/2 Forten. Mite Free Selectrogen Plus MVM B50/2 Forten

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

16

15

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

15

16

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

14 13 12 11

17 18 19 20

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

10

21

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

22

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

8 7 6

23 24 25

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

5 4

26 27

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

3 2 1 fight

28 29 30 31

Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Selectrogen Plus MVM. Mite free Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g) Vibreflex(0.3 CC) Am & pm WL+RTF (25 to 30 g)

Cord walk Cord walk Running pen with hen Scratch pen (20 min). Cord walk & Catch Cock. Walk with lights. Scratch pen (20 min). Cord walk & Catch Cock. Walk with lights. Scratch pen (20 min). Sparring (3 or 4 buckles) Cord walk Running pen with hen Running pen with hen Running pen with hen Scratch pen (20 min). Cord walk & Catch Cock. Walk with lights. Scratch pen (20 min). Cord walk & Catch Cock. Walk with lights. Scratch pen (20 min). Sparring (3 or 4 buckles) Cord walk & Catch Cock Cord walk. Walk with lights. Cord walk. Walk with lights. Scratch pen (20 min). Running pen w/hen. Walk with lights Cord walk Walk with lights. Cord walk. Last Sparring (3 or 4 buckles) Walk with lights. Cord walk. Scratch pen (20 min). Walk with lights. Cord walk. After am sun shaded area Cock house dark 9am to 4pm Cock house 8am onward