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Clarion aux input
If your car was manufactured in the late 90s or later and has a Clarion or McIntosh OEM stereo (many
Japanese imports do), this project may allow you to add a proper auxiliary input for your iPod, laptop
or anything else.
Eligible head units should have both a round 13-pin DIN socket and square 13-pin CeNet socket on the
rear panel of the head unit, similar to that shown on the photo below. You will need to remove your
head unit to check this. There is a list of models I have tried this with at the bottom of the page.
(http://nzlamb.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/rear_panel_connectors.jpg)
Rear panel connectors
Head units only featuring the round 13-pin DIN socket may not work as they probably use the older
C-Bus protocol instead of the more modern CeNet. Im not sure what the exact purpose of the
connector on CeNet units is, however its certainly useful for this project!
Equipment
13-pin DIN plug
3.5mm stereo plug or similar
Toggle or latching on/off push switch
Twin-core shielded audio cable
What to do
Solder the connections to the 13-pin DIN plug as shown in the diagram below.
(http://nzlamb.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/mcintosh_aux_input.png)
Connect it to the back of your stereo. Power on the stereo and flip the switch. When it is on the head
unit should display ACCS.
(http://nzlamb.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/front_panel_accs.jpg)
Connect the audio plug into a suitable source (e.g. your iPod) and you should hear it playing through
the stereo.
One quirk with this design is that the head unit will stay in accessory mode even if you try to change
function (CD, radio, etc.) or power it off until you turn off the aux switch. Turning off the ignition will
still turn the stereo off in accessory mode.
You may wish to mount the auxiliary switch somewhere convenient on the dashboard. Many cars
seem to have blank panels where optional features were not fitted; drilling into these saves damaging
your dash and looks a little tidier.
List of stereo models tested
Compatible
Most OEM stereos fitted to MY98-MY03 Subaru Legacy
Clarion PF-1572I
Clarion PF-2143I
McIntosh PF-2142I
Incompatible
McIntosh MD players
If this mod works for you, please post a comment with the stereo model number to help build a list
compatible with this mod!
Update: Removed resistor from circuit as it is not necessary in practice.
41 Responses to Clarion aux input
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Gannon says:
16 March 2011 at 23:28
Hi
Im keen to undertake this but i found conflicting information on another website.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Add-an-Aux-In-jack-for-Clarion-Stereo-Head-Unit-
I/step2/Identifying-the-inputs/
You said you tested this on several clarion models, including the Clarion PF-2143I? This is the
model fitted to my 2001 Outback.
Do you have the service manual for these units
Im also going to use a 13pin din plug, but is your pinout looking at the back of the unit, or the front
of the plug?
Many thanks
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nzlamb says:
17 March 2011 at 06:41
It definitely works. I think whoever wrote the instructable article has been mislead by the C-bus
pinout they found. In the case of these Subaru stereos it is not C-bus even though the connector
is the same.
The pout is looking at the back of the stereo, which is the same when working on the solder side
of the plug.
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Gannon says:
18 March 2011 at 22:32
Thanks mate
I have it half soldered up, i just need to wire in the resistor and switch and i will post up some
pictures if you like.
Gannon says:
21 August 2011 at 11:40
Hey
I just thought Id add that my brother in law has a 2001 B4 that has the McIntosh head unit,
and it does not have the round 13pin plug, only the square one, which is normally for the 6
stacker, which he doesnt have.
Is it possible to get a square Clarion plug and use it the same way?
nzlamb says:
21 August 2011 at 15:06
He must have the MiniDisc version and unfortunately this doesnt work on it. The best you
can do is get an aftermarket unit like the AnyCar or swap the head unit for a tape one.
chris says:
3 September 2013 at 06:46
Hello, I have a Clarion DRX6175 head unit, year was 1995. At the rear of the unit there is a 13
pin round Aux input which is for a CD changer. Theres also 4 x audio RCA input jacks available
and are unused for front and rear audio inputs. I want to connect my iPod Classic to this head
unit. I have connected the iPod with a Y adapter cable running from ipod headphone jack to
RCA inputs of head unit and the sound quality is poor or it sounds tinny tweeter, metalic
sound and this is undesirable. The better way would be through the 13 pin Aux input. Can I ask
anyone out there to create a cable for me ? I can pay you. I would welcome your advice. Chris
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Gannon says:
20 March 2011 at 15:05
Whoo hooo! I got it working, but i need to find a 1k resistor, im using a resistor substitution wheel
at the moment .
Just one question why does it need the 1k resistor?
Will it damage something if i connect it straight to the switch?
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nzlamb says:
20 March 2011 at 17:18
You dont actually need the resistor, I was just being cautious at the time.
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Gannon says:
20 March 2011 at 19:18
Finished
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1315/p1000235s.jpg
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/5875/p1000238i.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3029/p1000240f.jpg
I also found this in Russan, but i cant translate it http://www.subarudriver.ru/thread-2195243.htm
http://www.secam.ru/rus/e107_files/public/983_.jpg
It appears to be a factory in dash GPS and video player, and im guessing its the reason for this C-
Net plug on the back of the headunit.
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nzlamb says:
20 March 2011 at 19:42
Sure is, they are very common in NZ too. That TV tuner has its own aux input under the seat.
The CeNET port can also be used for CD changers and iPod adapters on these stereos.
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Gannon says:
20 March 2011 at 20:09
The square C-Net port is being used by the 6 stacker under the seat in my Outback
premium.
It would be really cool if i also had the phone port like in your other blog
amir911 says:
15 July 2011 at 04:30
hi nzlamb please help me i have clarion head unit with ce net .can i connect aux?
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nzlamb says:
15 July 2011 at 10:17
In a word, no, although its possible to use an intermediary device like a CD changer or EA1251
with an iPod, make a blank audio track and solder a cable to the audio input.
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Mark says:
27 January 2012 at 22:20
Hi I have a squre plug on my rear clarion only. I recently purchased a 6 stacker and it has
round plugs both ends . Can you buy round to square leads if so where . Also I have 4 RCA
jacks and was wondering if I could run two into one for my I pod. I also have a top mounted
DVD player currently hooked up. Works on aux only
nzlamb says:
27 January 2012 at 22:41
Unfortunately C-Bus (round connector) and CeNET (square connector) devices are totally
incompatible and Im not aware of any adapters out there.
Im not sure about the RCA jacks though, are you able to describe this in more detail?
Regarding the DVD player I assume this is the Subaru OEM DVD/GPS/VICS unit? Sounds
like it anyway; the MD head unit came with a DVD version of the satnav (MY01-03); the
older tape one had a CD-based satnav unit (MY98-00). If you do have this unit you can feed
an aux input into the factory TV tuner under the drivers seat. Use the external video input; it
has a proprietary connector but you can solder the left and right inputs directly onto the
board. You then need to set up the satnav unit to VTR mode rather than TV; press the mode
button (under OFF) on the left hand side to change to TV. After that one of the buttons on
the left displays a menu where you navigate to the last option using the joystick and select
VTR.
I originally did this in my car and it worked great. The only drawback is that the TV mode
cant be selected while driving; the car has to be stationary. The park brake trick doesnt
work here either as the satnav unit gets the vehicle speed data from both GPS and the TCM
(transmission computer).
Jesus says:
11 November 2011 at 15:06
This website http://www.venturemp3.com sell an interface working with Clarion C-Bus 13 pins.
Have a USB and SD card input. Hooked up to cd changer input, works as cd changer.
You can install in Subaru. Plays fine
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Rod P says:
11 February 2012 at 16:00
Thanks for this excellent write-up. It works perfectly on my 2000 model Liberty, with a clarion PF-
2353I head unit. Im thinking of changing the input method to a SPDT 3.5mm switched socket, so
that it switches to ACCS when I plug it in.
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Michael says:
4 March 2012 at 17:31
Hey RodP,
Hey RodP,
Could you share how you intend to wire the SPDT 3.5mm socket and a link to where someone
might get one?
Im new to this stuff but had thought those 5 pin 3.5 mm jacks were normally closed and
became open on plug insertion which is the opposite of what is needed here??
Michael
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RodP says:
8 March 2012 at 23:06
Hi Michael,
You are correct in that most 3.5mm switched sockets usually have normally closed
contacts, which open to mute the sound to the speakers (Im guessing). This is known as
single throw switching. A single pole, single throw switch would be described as SPST. Im
going to use a double throw switched socket, where the contacts open one set and close
another, and these contacts will take the place of the switch between pins 6 and 9. I am
somewhat short of time at the moment so Ill keep you posted. just Google 3.5mm SPDT or
3.5mm DPDT and you should get some hits. Ill be buying my socket from Wagner
Electronics in Ashfield, Sydney.
Gannon says:
25 May 2012 at 22:16
Hey Im back.
I just bought an original Sanyo F-2757A radio for my 1985 Subaru Leone RX and it also has a
13pin round DIN socket on the back.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8094/file0035p.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5185/file0036r.jpg
Im gonna take it apart and see what pins go where. Imagine if I can hook my MP3 player and a
switch and use it like the Clarion one.
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Gannon says:
25 May 2012 at 22:36
Pins 2,4,5,6,8,9,10 and 13 are soldered down, with 2 and 4 heading in the same direction and
passing identical components, so possibly the L and R signal. I wonder what would happen if I
plugged in my aux cable?
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Ivo says:
10 July 2012 at 23:33
Is that going to work on Clarion PU-9990A made for Peugeot ? It is from late 1997, and the 13 PIN
connector looks the same.
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mukesh meena says:
28 July 2012 at 22:28
kenwood dpx6020 audio input wire
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Rajeev says:
i have ADDZEST dmx960z dual din car stereo wrth Ce Net 13 square pin , can anyone tel me how
can i give input for this ,, pls help me ,, rajeev4s6raj@gmail.com
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David says:
8 May 2013 at 23:16
Hi nzlamb. I have a Subaru bh legacy with the satnav display. The car has an aftermarket Sony
head unit.
I really want to get rid of the blue screen and have it show the continuous HVAC info. Any idea
how I can do this?
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nzlamb says:
8 May 2013 at 23:23
First make sure it has the CD or DVD in it (press the little recessed button on the left hand side
and the display will slide out slightly). That said, Im pretty sure those units need the CeNET bus
connected in order to operate at all. So with that the best I can suggest is either replace the head
unit with a factory one or rip out the satnav altogether and replace it with the regular HVAC
unit. The latter is a big job but Ive done it myself and posted the details on the Club Sub
forums.
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David cassidy says:
9 May 2013 at 14:09
Thanks mate, unfortunately I dont have the DVD either. So even with that, it requires a
headunit with cenet to operate?
nzlamb says:
9 May 2013 at 18:19
Yes I just fired one up that Ive got on the bench and it definitely needs a CeNET head unit
to do anything. Without that it just displays a warning on the screen. Normally the button
just below the OFF button changes mode between map, HVAC and TV.
Tom says:
16 June 2013 at 21:45
Hi, thanks for the great tips. Will this work on the Clarion PF 23531 on 02 Ltd OBW? this is the
double DIN Clarion, CD and Cassette. I think its a called a Type C stereo in the manual. There is a
photo here http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/42-australia-new-zealand/34577-cassette-player-
outback-2000-a-2.html
This must have a square shaped CeNet plug, because it is already in use, connected to a Clarion
6CD changer under the passenger seat.
Also, will this adaptor cable on Ebay work for the Ipod? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ECLIPSE-13-
PIN-DIN-TO-AUX-CABLE-CORD-FOR-MP3-iPC-106-iPOD-IPOD-IPHONE-/130758389885?
pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e71ceb07d
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nzlamb says:
17 June 2013 at 12:51
Yes it works great with those particular Clarion units, provided it has the round socket on the
back. I originally tested this on a JDM version (PF-2143I) of the same stereo. Also note Rod Ps
comment above hes confirmed it works with your exact model.
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Tom says:
19 June 2013 at 00:26
Thanks, but do you have any thoughts on that cable? Im just hoping to only disassemble
my dash once, so Id like to have everything ready before I start.
nzlamb says:
19 June 2013 at 08:35
I honestly dont think that one will work. It would be risky unless you had a spare unit to try
it on first so I dont recommend it in this case.
Tom says:
4 August 2013 at 20:24
hi, so I took the radio apart today and found that after all that work I didnt have the round socket,
only the square one that my 6 Stacker plugs into. I have a Clarion PF 23531 on 02 Ltd OBW, so
perhaps not all models come with the same plug configuration.
Incidently, while I was having a look I saw another plug on the opposite end of the rear of the stereo
that was also round but was already occurpied by some thick black wires is this the aerial?
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Paul says:
very niceclean audiodid the sub gain already so now dont need to upgrade car stereo jacked
in iphone 3 g good stuff nzlambdidnt have 13 pin plug so I soldered wires directly to board!
thanks alot man!
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miura says:
14 October 2013 at 15:20
Hi, nzlamb. From Japan, thank you for the best tips to add AUX for a stereo installed my old
forester. It works perfectly although the unit has 8pin and 13pin DIN socket, a bit different. I
spotted a possibility of hacking 13pin DIN you show here and tried the same pin assignment. Now
Im very satisfied with the wonderful result that I can plug and play my retired iphone stuff with no
drawback in audio quality without buying a new model.
http://www.geocities.jp/p2pnext/86201SA010.jpg
http://www.geocities.jp/p2pnext/86201SA010_accs.jpg
http://www.geocities.jp/p2pnext/86201SA010_aux_13pinDIN.jpg
The model unit is a genuine subaru stereo, 86201SA010, FM/AM CD player made in Japan about
ten years ago, but the real manufacture is unknown. I bet it might be made by Clarion affiliated
group. Im not sure if you have seen it before in the South. I report you the fact to share with others
just in case when you see the model in Japanese import cars.
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miura says:
15 October 2013 at 07:11
The image links above are suck. These are not opened for outside of members.
See this instead http://sdrv.ms/17DqGqG
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Simon says:
9 November 2013 at 11:29
Hi
I have the Clarion PF-2169I which has the 13 pin plug for the CD changer. So I built the cable as
designed but unfortunately I cooked my head unit!! Not to sure where I went wrong. Any
suggestions?
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edwin osamong says:
5 January 2014 at 11:01
Hi, I have a clarion OEM unit PN-4048L. It has tv tuner and navigation and I was looking for
where to connect AUX IN.( has a button labeled TV/AUX) I took it out and found an 8 pin square
white connector with pin outs labeled on the board : A-BUS R+, A-BUS R-, A-BUS L+, A-BUS L-,
Audio Ground, M-CAN +, M-CAN -. Can this A-BUS terminals act as AUX in or they carry audio
bus digital traffic? model of tv-tuner in the boot is cy-tn0402a(has a similar connector but is not in
use). Your help will be much appreciated.
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