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The degree 5 ones aren in the syllabus but it could be derived I think. :$ Anyway, that's A/OK: abede | Re: the Further Maths Thread Sorry, this in the syllabus but in a totally diferent way s compared tothe book. I have explained it below inthe photo, Youll eit once yu solve some past papers. The good thing about our teacher i that he gives questions from the past papers in is worksheet alongwith questions from the book, tate think are appropriate, and this allows us to get ready for the real hing cain! Don't mind the quality ofthe picture. I could only finda pencil around me, :$ Tam kind of shor of pens (Sem (@babamamay9: This is an exclusive thread for Further Mathematics questions, so shell move your post othe Mathematics section Infact, you already posted it there. So no need ta post te question at two places itp:www.xtremepapers. cefoommuntyteadsurther-mathemtics-post-your-dous-heee.9742! 36Further Mathematics: Post your doubts her | XtemePapers Commuriy babamamas? Re: The Further Maths Thread, Re: The Further Maths Thread @hamidaligos: An effectively short solution that I had no idea existed. Thank you! :good Is this a general sort of formula you used the one involving the variable n)? What would you do if told to evaluate 8g and $4? Re: The Further Maths Thread Assalam-o-Alakum..! @bamid: "ifthe roots of the equation x°4 = px*3 + x42 -pa x + (4B 40)(a+8+D)(asT +D)(B+P + D)=1 area, 8, Pad deta(D) show that ‘You can observe th In the prduct"(a +B +1)(a +8 +D)(a+T+D)(8+T +D)," each of the expression consisting ofthe sum af the roots ofthe equation "x"4- px" +qx"2-pqx+ 1 =o forms a pattern Lets represent the sum "a+ 3. » D" by St try to simplify the hairy product. ‘Then, (a +8-+T)(a+84D)(a+T +D)(B+T +D)=(8-D)($-F)(8-B)(S-a) = S%4-DS"g- 15% + FDSY2- B83 + BDS“2 + BTS*2 -ATDS- aS“ 4 aDS"2 + aPS*2-aFDS + afi"2- aBDS-aBTS + aD 8% -(a+ B42 +D)'S%3 + (a0 + BY + D+ Da tal’ + BD )*S*2 =a + BPD + PDa + @8D)*8 + a8 =8%4-a)S"s + Q a8)*8" -Casly'S + a8 Now, fom the equation "4 ~px"g = qx"2-pgx+1=0/° Da a6 = 455 a6 = py; afd This leads:0, (0 +8+1)(a+8+D)(a+T+D)(H+T +D)=p%4-(OP*S + (@"*2 “(bap +1 = pra-phasatpte-aqtp e+ abeas ‘As regards the method used to find sums of powers of roots of polynomial equations, its quite simple but requires ace method. 1 demonstrate the method using a quadrae equation Consider the quadratic equation x" -4x + § = 0 with rots a and B. Ie you multiply the cubic equation with wn, you get sNlasarax“(at)e5x Since both a and satisfy this equation, a*(as2}qa"(nsa}tga%n-0 and bips:twoxtremepapers.com/communtytveadsiturter-mathematics-post-your-dobts-here 9742)vera Further Mathematics: Post your doubts her | XtemePapers Commuriy Br(ns2h4Brnsadesf°n-0 ‘Adding these two equations, we have Ya(ava)=4 Ba"inv1) 4 sYa%n = 0 Iryou denote Ya“n by § then this becomes Sinv2)-48r) +58 <0 We know that a += 4nd apes Soares *2=(a+p)*2-20P= 42-245 =6 Pattingn = 1,8) =4 St) +586 We know that Sa) = 4nd S(2)~ 6,508 nar6- 4 1 guess you understand the method and can applyit to equations of higher order. Hope that helps. (Fearne } abede ‘Re: The Further Maths Thread understand, I veally helped. Thank you! However, I'm stil having some confusion where S_ notation is placed (Im aot fair with it at all except since the las two post) In the first problem, I realise that SQ) = Ya = p. But how come 8 (4)= p"4 , tg) =p" and S(2)= p"2? Thnow that a + B +1 +D~pbutS(4)~ a4 +84 +1%4 + D4 which is NOT equa to (a +B + F-+D)*4 that ean give p°4.:8 Where can I further learn this"Sin+2) -4 Sins) + 5S = 0" method? The Further Maths Thread Basically, I need to know how to evaluate (2) ad S(q) in ease of eubie and quartic equations Re: The Further Maths Thread, Oops. 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