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<div id="post_message_2278"> So in following the footsteps of the pioneer Basjoos before me,
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Goals are as follows: <br />
1.) Improve aerodynamics from Cd: 0.32 to Cd: 0.26 or better (Honda Insight equivalent) <br />
2.) Materials must be Weather, impact and wear resistant with a (projected) life of 5+ years of
normal use. <br />
3.) Overall design of components must be removable, with no permanent changes to the
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4.) Aesthetic considerations play a role, notably in the S.W.M.B.O. test. (She Who Must Be
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In pursuit of these goals I plan to implement the following modifications, in roughly this
order:<br />
1.) Rear wheel fairings (not the most effective, I know, but the easiest, and most forgiving)
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2.)Front wheel fairings <br />
3.)Partial front belly pan<br />
4.)Fiberglas front nose/splitter<br />
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Now, to kick-off my little project I acquired a full sheet of 4-5mm (?) thick peice of white onesided-grained ABS plastic. This actually took about a solid month of trying to track down my
local plastics supplier. But today I actually found him and for a mere $75 took home a sheet of
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ABS seems to me to be the ideal material for making fairings and such because of it's
malleability under heat and because it can be &quot;welded&quot; with the right equipment.
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On the back side I've attached it with an &quot;extruded U-clip&quot; to the rear bumper.
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Now I just have some template-finessing to do. The initial templates I made for the rear fairings
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<div id="post_message_2281">So I got the rear fairings finished up and installed. They need a
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washers need a good coat of white paint. <br />
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I've decided that I probably won't be converting Harold to an EV. I just don't know what my
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So, since I probably wont be keeping this car long-term (and it's not worth much anyway) more
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So that brings us to today's installment: Airdam Mania!<br />
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I've had a crappy cardboard/white-duct-tape grill block on the car for a while now. It's been
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Sure, this will increase the CdA of my car, but it will also take care of two (or three) nasty areas
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Alright, here's a pic of good ol' Harold with the temporary grill block:<br />
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I went ahead and cut a 82&quot; x 17&quot; strip out of my ABS sheet and grabbed a
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