Packet Tracer - Configuring The Cloud

Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the ...
olabisi0901 2 posts since

Jul 22, 2008
Hi,
I'm new at using Packet tracer. I'm using version 5 and i find it difficult to configure the cloud for frame relay
especially the port to lmi/dlci mappings, having more than two routers on the network.
can anybody please explain how to do the configuration. how does it apply to the point-to-point/multipoint
sub-interfaces configured on the routers
Thank you all.
Steven Rivkind 2 posts since

Aug 19, 2008 Reply 1. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Aug 19, 2008 11:35 AM
Not sure I understand your question and I haven't used Packet tracer but you would have the point to multipoint on
the head end router. Each DLCI would be a separate subinterface.
I.E.
Serial0/0/0.101
Serial0/0/0.102
Of course you can call the subinterfaces anything you want just put in 101 and 102 as an example. Go over the
frame-relay portion of the CCNA book for more info
Chetan 334 posts since

Jul 26, 2008 Reply 2. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Sep 15, 2008 7:38 AM
Hi Olabisi,
It is not difficult to configure the frame relay cloud.
Click on the cloud, then click CONFIG, you will see a list of all the interfaces present, under the heading
INTERFACES on the left hand side. When you click on any of the interface, you will see the textboxes to configure
lmi, dlci etc. on right side.
Where exactly are you facing the problem ?
Can you attach your packet tracer file ?
If that is not possible, can you attach the picture of your desired network ?
You can take a screenshot of the network in packet tracer also and attach here as a file.
aspiring_n00b 1 posts since

Sep 23, 2008 Reply 3. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Sep 23, 2008 6:30 AM
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in response to: Chetan Hello Chetan, I am new to Packet Tracer and I am also having problems configuring the
Cloud. I have attached screenshots of my setup to give you an idea of what I'm trying to do. When I try to configure
the cloud, it won't let me map more than one connection as you can see in the Error screenshot. What am I missing?
What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=75341_Frame_Relay_Network_122_238lo.JPG
http://img249.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=75215_DLCI_50_122_42lo.jpg
http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=75226_Error_122_937lo.jpg

Hi Olabisi,
You were trying to map one router interface directly to many dlci. This is not the right way.
Instead you should create subinterfaces first, and then do the mapping.
Map One subinterface per DLCI.
And also don't forget to set the encapsulation of the router's interface to frame-relay. By default encapsulation is
HDLC.
There are many things that you can't set using the GUI. So you have to use CLI on routers. There is no alternative.
I am attaching the exact coding and all the required commands.
I Hope this will solve your problem.
Let me know the progres.

Here is the configuration of an example FRAME=RELAY case study. Attachments:
• Configure Frame Relay.txt (9.8 K)
andrew19c 1 posts since

Aug 22, 2008 Reply 6. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Sep 24, 2008 4:44 AM
Hey guys. How can i get packet tracer 5.0?
B Haines 445 posts since

Jun 28, 2008 Reply 7. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Sep 24, 2008 7:04 PM

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in response to: andrew19c

Nice job Chetan,
Remember that there are two ways to configure a basic frame relay setup though and only one uses subinterfaces. It
can be designed without them although this is MUCH less popular. Sorry that I have not responded to your message
yet. I just read it recently but have been busy!
Andrew,
Unfortunately, Packet Tracer is currently only offered to Cisco Network Academy students. If you would like to see
that change and see more Cisco software available for study then please voice your opinion in this thread as I have
recently brought this up to Cisco...
https://cisco.hosted.jivesoftware.com/thread/2650?tstart=0
Ahsan Mahmood 7 posts since

Aug 2, 2008 Reply 8. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Oct 30, 2008 4:03 PM
in response to: Chetan

Hi everyone
Regarding Chetan's attached configuration, I just follow step by step and everything seems fine but ...but I can not
ping and in his configuration there is no information regarding Packet Tracer Cloud configuration. Could you (Chetan)
or any one else please help me out. I can post my configruation if some one interested to help.
Cheers

Jun 28, 2008 Reply 9. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Oct 30, 2008 9:45 PM
in response to: Ahsan Mahmood

Ahsan,
I went through Chetan's example and it looks good.. I would start over as you probably made a mistake. You will only
gain by committing to memory by retyping everything.. If you still can not get it to work then please post configs and
we will see what you have going on!

Jul 26, 2008 Reply 10. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Oct 30, 2008 11:08 PM
in response to: Ahsan Mahmood Hi Ahsan,
The configuration file that I attached above belongs to the Routers.
There is no information in it about how to config FR cloud. Because Olabisi has already done that part in the original
question.
Anyways, Here is what I know about the FR cloud.
In addition to configuring DLCIs on Routers, it is also necessary that FR switches from the service provider are also
configured with those DLCI values. But in our case we have access to FR cloud as a whole ( and not any particular
FR Switch).

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I am attaching the screen shots of FR cloud configuration.
In this screen shot, Serial 0 is attached to the HUB Router. Attachments:

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FrameRelay Serial 0.bmp (1,011.6 K)


And here is the screenshot of FrameRelay Serial 1 interface which is attached to 1st spoke router.
Serial2 and Serial3 interfaces are configured exactly the same way as Serial 1.
Attachments:
•
FrameRelay Serial 1.JPG (45.9 K)


Files are sometimes queued and not uploaded properly.
If above links do not work properly, you can access those screenshots at the following links
For FR cloud Serial0, file is at following location :
http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33808_FrameRelay_Serial_0_122_730lo.JPG
For FR cloud Serial1, Serial2 and Serial3, file is at following location:
http://img252.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33813_FrameRelay_Serial_1_122_398lo.JPG


Ahsan,
If you still couldn't get the PING work properly between hosts, follow these steps,
Step 1, Check that IP and Default-Gateway are properly Configured on Hosts
Step 2, Check that suitable cables are attached.
If above Two Steps do not solve your problem, then
Step 3. POST your CONFIGURATION files

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Aug 2, 2008 Reply 14. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Oct 31, 2008 4:53 PM

Hi Chetan, thanks very much for wonderful help but it seems I m still in (FR ) clouds
, i will post my configuration asap.

Just to let you know what I am doing in words, I am using Packet Tracer 5 and your configuration you tried on real
routers. I have seen a FR network design on Packet Tracer it is working fine. On comparison the difference is serial
cable, according to my understanding our routers are DTEs and What is inside the cloud ( switches) are DCE. so
I have connected cable between FR cloud and routers in a such a way that my routers are DTE and I do not need
to put Clock rate 64000 command on my routers because as i said they are DTEs, do you get me ? so R1 (DTE
end)------------------Cloud (DCE end) if this is not the case please explain why?
Because the configuration which i mentioned ( http://www.solostuff.net/ ) is working fine,
I will post my configuration during this weekend
Many thanks

in response to: Ahsan Mahmood Hi Ahsan,
Your point about DTE is correct. I am also using the same cabling.
See the topology that I am working upon.

http://img252.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=06073_Frame_Relay_Topology_122_45lo.JPG
In this topology, pings between all end hosts are working fine.
If you are still unsuccessful, after trying above things, the only thing you should be missing is
Inport Port To Output Port Mapping on Frame Relay Cloud.
See the following picture also..
http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=06074_Frame_Relay_Mapping_122_22lo.JPG
Have you done this mapping earlier also ?
And one last question--- Are All the interfaces powered on ? ... LOL
Hope it Helps,
Let me know the progress.. ( if any )

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Aug 2, 2008 Reply 16. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 1, 2008 5:38 PM

Yepi , I have done it ,Chetan Many Thanks for your help and i really appreciate that.
Very helpful,
i can ping now each other host. Problem was in the Cloud configuration. I am surprised why I was getting results
without cloud configuration like show frame-relay map ,show frame-relay lmi and show frame-relay pvc.
What about mulipoint , and with routing protocol ( instead of static routing) . Also can we use any other LMI type ?
And last question what is the the best way to become master of frame Relay atleast CCNA level ?
Many thanks once again
Ahsan

Jul 26, 2008 Reply 17. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 2, 2008 12:07 AM

Hi Ahsan,
You have asked many questions. I will try to explain them in points ( as per my understanding )
1. You were getting the results of show frame-relay map, show frame-relay pvc, show frame-relay lmi because these
commands have nothing to do with InputPort to OutputPort mapping ( which is an internal matter of frame-relay cloud
). Remember that DLCI is not significant beyond a particular link. And map and pvc commands shows information
about dlci. And lmi command shows information about the connection between DTE and FR-Switch which again is
not related to InputPort to OutputPort Mapping.
But one thing is for sure, that if u haven't configured these PortMappings ( I/P to O/P), network is not going to work.
2. Use of multipoint sub-interfaces is similar to point-to-point sub-interfaces. But you have to mention keyword
"multipoint" while creating sub-interface. And then associate all of the dlci with different frame-relay interface-dlci
commands. Here is the sample
DTE(config)#interface s0/0/0
DTE(config-if)#encapsulation frame-relay
DTE(config-if)#no shut
DTE(config-if)#exit
DTE(config)#interface s0/0/0.23 multipoint

DTE(config-subif)#ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
DTE(config-subif)#frame-relay interface-dlci 102
DTE(config-subif)#frame-relay interface-dlci 103
and so on...
Similarty configure multipoint subinterfaces on Other Routers
3. If you are using sub-interfaces ( point-to-point or multipoint ), then use of routing protocols is very simple. Enable
the routing protocol and associate appropriate networks with the protocol. Here is the sample

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DTE(config)#router eigrp 1
DTE(config-router)#network 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255
DTE(config-router)#network 192.168.1.0
DTE(config-router)#exit
There is nothing new as far as enabling of routing protocols is concerned.
4. We can use all the three lmi-types in Packet tracer 5.0 viz. Cisco, Q933a and Ansi.
5. As far as your last question is concerned, after reading many many reviews of qualified CCNAs, I am getting
a feeling that whatever is given in Todd Lammle and Cisco Press Books ( ICND1 and ICND2) will be more than
enough for the CCNA exam. But I would also like to add that I have still to appear for CCNA.
I hope it helps,
Regards,
Chetan

Aug 2, 2008 Reply 18. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 3, 2008 9:39 AM
in response to: Chetan Hi Chetan
Thank you very much for replying in detail, nice to hear that you are too preparing for CCNA.
Many thanks once again
Ahsan
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Jun 28, 2008 Reply 19. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 2, 2008 6:29 PM
in response to: Chetan Chetan,

Judging from the view response of this post (16k) as of this message, I would recommend that you create a
document explaining how to configure the FR could in Packet Tracer. Basically, a tutorial for new users as this would
be a great contribution (People are obviously googleing this like crazy! Then post the link to this thread! I will do it if
you do not have the time! Thanks again!

Jul 26, 2008 Reply 20. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 2, 2008 7:22 PM
in response to: B Haines

Hi Haines,
Thanks for the wonderful suggestion.
I will surely do this as soon as possible.

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Why didn't this idea struck my Mind ?

Jun 28, 2008 Reply 21. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 2, 2008 8:04 PM
in response to: Chetan LoL.. Sometimes we just need a nudge! Don't forget to post a link to your document so
that the Googlers who happen across this thread find it as well..

Aug 2, 2008 Reply 22. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 3, 2008 9:43 AM
in response to: B Haines

Hi Haines and Chetan
I think it is very idea to prepare Frame Relay Cloud Configuration as a documents so other can get benefit out of it-
Keep it up doing good work
Cheers
Ahsan


Hi there,
Thanks to Chetan for his help in configuring FR Cloud, I'm still spending some time on FR to make sure that i learn
it trying my level best. I have one question; using Packet Tracer when my all router can ping each other but when I
change type of lmi change at either router or on switch in cloud it does not ping which does make sense.However, if
I disable lmi on router by typing "no keepalve" Router should not ping because lmi has been disabled on DTE router,
Why does it continue to ping ?
Cheers

Jul 26, 2008 Reply 24. Re: Packet Tracer 5.0 - Configuring the cloud Nov 7, 2008 6:55 PM

Hi Ahsan,
Here is what I understand.
Key benefits of LMI status messages are :
1. To perform a keepalive function between DTE and DCE. If the access link has a problem, the absence of
keepalive messages implies that the link is down.

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2. They signal whether a PVC is active or inactive. An access link might be up, but one or more VCs could be down.
DTE needs to know which VCs are up and which are down. It learns that information from the switch using LMI
status messages.
If you disable keepalive using "no keepalive" interface configuration command, then you won't get above information
automatically. So if the PVCs are working properly, it won't disturb the DTE. But if PVCs are facing a problem, you
won't be able to communicate. But the main problem is you won't come to know easily where is the problem whether
PVC is active, inactive or deleted.. LMI provide this useful information automatically to you.
And also remember that LMI doesn't work end to end i.e. DTE to DTE. It works only between DTE and FR Switch.
It is somewhat similar to how Dynamic Routing Protocols work. If you have configured static routes to a destination,
then that route would always be available in the routing table even if the destination network is removed later on. ( I
am not talking about the local exit interface going down, in which case static route might be removed from the table)
But if you configured OSPF or EIGRP or RIP etc, then they can automatically add/remove the routes in the routing
table depending upon the timers and updates received. Thus they provide useful information automatically.
Does it provide any help ??


Hi chetan
Many thanks for your reply. I do appreciate your way of detail explanation-very helpful
Cheers
Ahsan

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The configuration file that I attached above belongs to the Routers.

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, i will post my configuration asap.

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See the topology that I am working upon.

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