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THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN 2009 …


PREDICTING THE UNPREDICTABLE
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THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN 2009 …


PREDICTING THE UNPREDICTABLE
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Big hitters exclusively reveal how they see the year ahead

If 2008 put the V in volatility for the music industry, 2009 looks set to test powers of prediction
to the limit. This mighty economic force - which generates £billions for Britain – finds itself
again in turmoil just as the credit crunch starts to hit leisure spending.

What is the true state of the industry? We ask the people at the heart of the battle - people
whose secrets are rarely revealed. We have designed the ten most pertinent questions and
collated these insiders' telling and timely answers.

Is the music download about to consign the CD to extinction?


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Can a radically revamped EMI regain traction, or do its investors and staff risk
losing everything this year?
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Against a backdrop of collapsing ad revenues and expanding online alternatives,


what is the viability of print music magazines?
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Meanwhile, web music sources like iTunes, Amazon, Nokia and Myspace
battle for dominance … and face new rivals.
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The implosion of key distribution channels – including Woolworths and Zavvi -


has left the industry facing real challenges. Will consumers be able even to find music
on the High Street by the end of 2009?
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Online launches could be the way ahead … or was Radiohead’s success a one-off?
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The 360-degree deal, where labels control everything from touring income to merchandise,
faces new scrutiny from artists and managers.
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Will credit-crunched fans find their pockets too stretched to go to concerts?


Will Britain’s legendary festival scene find itself against the wall?
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New political debate is set to ignite about the BBC’s state-funded involvement
in Radio 1 and Radio 2.
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And finally … is there really a chance of a revival of dear old Top of The Pops?
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All in all, the easiest prediction would be: expect the unexpected.

In this industry, perhaps more than most, successfully foreseeing the future is an inherent part
of any job description. The biggest players in the business, executives who put millions of
investors’ and their own money where their mouths are, reveal their fears and hopes for 2009.
In this survey by Marrakesh Records the answers speak for themselves.

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THE
CONTRIBUTORS
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{ Mark Collen } { Dave McGeAChan }


Mark spent 20 years in senior management roles at EMI where he Dave is Scotland’s leading music promoter including organising T in the
was heavily involved in the development of a range of artists including Park and running King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut.
Crowded House, Radiohead, Blur, Robbie Williams, Norah Jones and ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Coldplay. He is now an independent consultant and a Director of direct
to consumer online platform, Mubito.com.
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{ Ben Winchester }
Ben is from Primary Talent International, is one of the UK’s most respect-

{ Ian DUTT } ed live agents. His roster includes the bands Oasis and Glasvegas.
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Ian is a Director of PIAS UK, the UK’s leading independent music
distributor, and also runs Integral Marketing, its marketing services division.
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{ Rob Andrews }
Rob is Head of Entertainment and Live Events at Tiscali UK.

{ Will KinsmaN } ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Will is Associate Editor of Clash Magazine and was previously Editor of


The Fly Magazine.
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Dharmash is a partner at venture capital firm Balderton Capital. He
was previously Managing Director of EMAP Consumer Media and EMAP

{ Paul STOKES } Performance, and part of the management team that sold the con-
sumer magazine business to H.Bauer for £1.1bn. Balderton recently
Paul is news editor of NME and spent much of 2008 heavily involved in announced that it had completed raising a £282m fund that will focus
the launch of NME Radio and NME.com. on early stage investments in the media and technology sectors.
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{ David Mogendorff } { Robert Reynolds }


David is Digital Talent and Music Manager for MTV Networks UK. Robert manages The Killers and is an attorney specialising in media
Career highlights include booking Gonzo on Tour and the Spanking New and entertainment law at the Las Vegas law firm, Callister-Reynolds.
Sessions, including debut TV performances from Bloc Party, Kaiser ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Chiefs, Hot Chip, Adele, Florence and the Machine, and many more.
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{ Nick Bubb }
{ Tim Parry } Nick is Retailing Analyst at stockbrokers Pali International and one of
the most respected retail analysts in Britain.
Tim is one of the two co-founders of BigLife Management where he ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
has been instrumental in the career success of The Verve, Richard
Ashcroft, Snow Patrol, Klaxons and The Futureheads.
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{ Stephen Godfroy }
Stephen is Director of Rough Trade Retail, the music-only

{ Charlie Marshall } independent retailer.


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Charlie is Business Development Director at Ingenious Media Consult-
ing. Ingenious Media is an investor in and adviser to multiple music and
music-related companies and artists.
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{ Dominic Hardisty }
Dominic is Founder and Managing Director of Marrakesh Records and
first signed multi-platinum band, The Killers. His previous career was

{ Dave Goldberg } in senior general management with several media companies including
the Financial Times.
Dave is entrepreneur-in-residence at the Silicon Valley venture capital firm ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Benchmark Capital. He was previously worldwide head of Yahoo! Music af-
ter selling launch.com, the company which he co-founded, to Yahoo! in 2001.
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What will happen


to EMI in 2009?
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The industry giant starts the New Year with its boss
Guy Hands unveiling his strategy for survival …

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» Mark Collen EMI will no longer be consid- » David Mogendorff EMI seems to have made » Dominic Hardisty EMI is living on borrowed
ered a major player by the end of the year. some bold steps in the recent restructure. time and borrowed money: not a healthy rec-
Guy Hands will do his utmost to offload the There are a lot of smart people there and they ipe in a credit crunch. Guy Hands should sell
recorded music side of the business. There will still have some world-class artists on their ros- the catalogue to the highest bidder (prob-
be further desertion of high-profile artists and ter. For the sake of the UK industry let’s hope ably Universal), close down all remaining
staff and more cuts before March. With a bit of they have a strong year. operations, then license the company’s label
luck a consortium led by Roger Ames will buy it, ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// brands to smart, VC-funded entrepreneurs
or more likely, Warners. ‘EMI 2.0’ will go down in return for license fees and profit-shares.
as a very high-profile mistake. » Tim Parry They have taken on good execs This would move EMI from a high-risk and
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talking about doing different types of deals. margin one.
» Dave Goldberg Citibank will take the busi- It’s a question of how long will Terra Firma be //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
ness from Terra Firma and re-auction it. prepared to keep funding a company that is
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// doing so badly. I hope it survives. But I worry » Charlie Marshall No comment!!!
that it won’t. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
» Will Kinsman I don’t think there can be any //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
argument that EMI was a company that had
been running out of control for too long, and » Robert Reynolds EMI’s new website was
as such many of the Guy Hands-directed cuts an interesting step in the right direction, but
were necessary, if not always palatable. I’ve probably too little, too late. Until EMI delivers
visited most of the majors recently and been on the site and brings it out of beta mode, I’m
quite astonished by the flagrant excess of not holding my breath. There are some good
their offices. Saving 20% by having an office people over at EMI, but I’d be surprised if this
that’s smaller and in a less-fashionable part leads to significantly-improved pricing of their
of London - not to mention limiting people’s music or any real connection with the average
travel and entertainment budgets and all the music consumer.
other perks of major label life - would surely //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
make it easier to operate profitably.
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Will people still read music magazines


at the end of 2009?
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Print magazines, already under pressure from falling ad revenues in the recession,
face a second challenge: the growth in online alternatives.

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» Paul Stokes Yes. Like the resurgence of vinyl » Dominic Hardisty Stop and chat with » Rob Andrews The standard quality ones -
you can’t over estimate people’s attachment under-25s on the street and you will quickly NME, Q, etc- will still be around but advertising
to lovingly made, beautiful physical products. discover that they read free newspapers, send money is increasingly going online. Obviously
Music magazines can do pictures, longer dozens of texts/emails each day and surf mu- online users can actually hear the music which
articles and portability better than the web sic sites on the web when they have the time, gives a massive advantage.
and I feel we’re going to have to play to those but just are not interested in paid-for music //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
strengths more and more. I think the music magazines. Ad budgets will be extremely
press is going to have to accept that we are tight in 2009 and more effective CPMs can be
specialist interest publications, like aircraft achieved in other media, which doesn’t bode
magazines or gardening mags (don’t laugh). I well for existing titles. That said, there is room
think it means a return to real, exciting music in the market for a free music and entertain-
journalism and great iconic rock’n’roll photog- ment weekly along the lines of ShortList
raphy. We have to give people value for money. Magazine. There are willing investors out
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» Dharmash Mistry Yes, but less frequently.
There will always be a need for a lean-back, » David Mogendorff Yes, people will still read mu-
photography-rich read with longer features, sic magazines, but 2009 will see further accelera-
which the web is less able to deliver. However, tion in the popularity of reading this type of material
there will be further consolidation in the sec- online and a decline in the economic feasibility of
tor due to lower circulations and significantly publishing specialist music writing on paper.
less endemic music advertising. So fewer, //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
smaller music magazines with less staffing.
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and there are some signs of growth. Most mu-
» Will Kinsman I am confident that there is still sic magazines will remain profitable but keep
a demand for the printed word. The challenge is trying to stretch their brands (cf. NME Radio
for magazines to adapt to the changing climate. and more-successfully NME tours). The trick is
The publishers who prosper will be those that to pick your tribes - we still think that NME and
fully embrace and integrate their print, online Kerrang have a future as they have evergreen
and mobile platforms. younger tribes. Q, we’d be less positive about.
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Will CDs still be


for sale at retail in 2009?
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CDs killed-off large-scale vinyl. Now music downloading could mean it’s CDs’ turn for extinction.

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» Stephen Godfroy Of course CDs will sur- » Mark Collen People still overwhelmingly » Dominic Hardisty CDs will continue to offer
vive, as physical formats have a clear value (as buy CDs. Labels need to become more aware a cheap, portable and well-packaged second-
an artifact, sense of ownership) that cannot be of who is buying their music and focus on ary medium even in a world dominated by
replaced by digital formats. The decline in CD those audiences. For instance Take That’s downloads. Much of The Top 200 will remain
sales is a natural result of the commoditisa- and AC/DC’s fans are most definitely physical available in retail multiples for as long as its
tion of music since the arrival of e-commerce. purchasers. Smart labels understand that contribution can justify the floor space; full
Relevant and exciting retail experiences will people can and do buy CDs and download catalogues will remain available from Amazon
result in increased CD/vinyl sales, as Rough tracks and bundles, often of the same tracks, and from HMV. The challenge for music
Trade East has proven. depending on where they want to consume companies is to make album packages as at-
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// their music. Tracks are easy and disposable - tractive as possible so as to encourage people
CDs make better gifts. to buy them rather than just download the
» Ian Dutt They will, but I’m not sure I’d give you ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// occasional single.
the same answer for 2011. Singles will prob- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
ably disappear entirely from the High Street in » Rob Andrews Yes. CDs will continue to be on
2009. But with physical products continuing to sale, but retail space available will decrease. » Robert Reynolds Of course. The CD is dying
make up 90% of the albums market they will be Even HMV, I noticed over Xmas, has less space fast, but everyone will still be driving cars with
around for a bit longer. for CDs than it does for DVDs and games. CD players this year.
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spell the end for niche genres/bands on
» Nick Bubb HMV is just about the last man the High Street.
left standing in the High Street selling music, //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
and even there you have to battle past all the
DVDs and gaming racks to get at the CDs. But » Dave Goldberg CDs will die slowly
yes they will still be part of the mix at HMV next over the next five to seven years but will
Xmas and no, not everybody will buy them at become increasingly irrelevant to the
Amazon and Play.com music business.
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Who will win in 2009: itunes, Amazon,


Nokia, Myspace, OR somebody else?
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The music download sector is evolving at rocket pace …

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» Mark Collen iTunes will start to feel the » Rob Andrews I don’t see many massive win- » Dharmash Mistry iTunes will remain
heat. Amazon and Nokia will do well. Play ners in 2009. Nokia will find that their proposi- dominant but may lose share given increased
and Amazon will continue to dominate online tion isn’t as attractive or profitable as they competition, digital music lockers, loss-leader
sales. And Amazon’s digital offering will find think it is. For most people it’s not enough of a pricing and segment-based offerings with bet-
favour. Myspace will struggle as labels reason to swap mobile phones and there are ter range and recommendation engines.
continue to wrangle with artists over cheaper ways of getting music anyway. For me //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
royalties and artists realise they can make it’s more a question of who will lose in 2009 and
more money with their own direct to I’d say that I wouldn’t like to be a major record » Robert Reynolds iTunes will win. They
consumer offerings. label right now. remain one of the few innovators in the
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consumer. Going DRM-free and offering
» Will Kinsman iTunes’ current dominance of » Tim Parry None of these companies are variable pricing are both smart steps in
the download market means they are able to “music” companies - they use music to sell the right direction.
wield a disproportionate influence - in partic- hardware or encourage website visits. They //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
ular, their standardised pricing policy, I think, and many other companies are building huge
hinders smaller bands and labels. There’s a businesses on the back of music without pay- » Ian Dutt Why on earth does there have to be
chance that the range of music people have ing an acceptable price for the privilege. They a winner?”
access to will be dictated by what mobile will all win - it is the ARTISTS who will lose! //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
handset they own, and that can’t be healthy. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
If there has to be a winner, I hope it is whoever
puts the most money back into music in terms » Dominic Hardisty There are some global big
of supporting new bands and artists. guns bearing down on music retail, yet none of
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music: Apple and Nokia want to sell phones,
» David Mogendorff The savvy music fan will Myspace wants to sell advertising and Amazon
win – by continuing to discover and access the wants to sell pretty much anything it can (the
music that they want for free, from wherever contribution from an American-style fridge/
they want to get it. freezer is somewhat higher than on a CD).
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» Ben Winchester P2P and pirate bay, obviously.


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WHAT DO THE BANKRUPTCY OF EUK AND


PINNACLE MEAN FOR THE UK MUSIC BUSINESS?
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The collapse of Woolworths’ CD distribution arm EUK, then independent distributor Pinnacle and
now Zavvi present huge challenges for the industry in getting music to its customers.

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» Ian Dutt Devastating for the really good » David Mogendorff Unfortunately it’s just » Robert Reynolds The fact that a mainstream
people that worked at both companies, but the part of the relentless march away from the distributor's death helped cause the demise
industry will cope. We made a point not to go old model of physical product driving the of one of the top independent distributors
“ambulance chasing” after the demise of Pin- business. The knock-on effects on the labels reminds us that it's not just the major labels
nacle and it was scary how quickly their roster are massive, but those who have a well- that are hurting right now. In the short term,
found new homes. developed, solid digital proposition should the indies are going to feel the blow and some
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// be ok. will fold, but in the end the indies will rise up
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» Nick Bubb The problem for EUK was always //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
that it was reliant for half its volume on as flaky » Tim Parry Pinnacle hadn’t been massively
a business as Woolworths and that the other important for music for a while and one of the » Dominic Hardisty The crazy thing about
half came from ruthless supermarkets who distributors was always going to fail as physical EUK is that the industry allowed itself to sleep-
would sell their own grandmother to get a bit sales declined. As for EUK, it was a middleman walk into a situation in which one supplier basi-
more margin. - everybody will sell direct now which makes cally controlled the entire industry’s access to
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// much more sense. Sainsbury, Asda, Morrisons, Woolies, Smiths
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// and Zavvi. We need to play our cards better
» Paul Stokes In the long term probably the going forward.
only way you'll get nice physical-released » Dharmash Mistry It will increase the //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
music from acts on indie labels will be through bargaining power of the grocers. Worst case
mail order, directly through the band or label. scenario would be the US model of distribu- » Ben Winchester The chickens have finally
It will be a shame not to see these acts in tion and the power held by Walmart, where come home to roost.
the shops, but it probably means the bonus every album is sold at a loss but you //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
material and packaging will be better as they'll cannot get into the top end of the charts.
know how exactly how many they need to make //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
before making them.
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Have we learned anything from


‘In Rainbows’ and was it a good idea?
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Radiohead’s launch of In Rainbows online with consumers able to pay what they liked
was a major innovation. But the formula may not work for others.

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» Ian Dutt What intrigued me the most was » Dave McGeachan It was a good, refreshing » Dominic Hardisty From an industry point-
that plenty of people still paid full price for the idea but needs to stay as a one-off. If it hap- of-view, they turned the supply curve on its
album at iTunes after the official release date. pened on a regular basis it would have a major head so that supply and demand matched
It shows that no matter how much of a good negative effect on most strands of the one another exactly. The result? Most
idea something may be, people will always music industry. people chose not to pay and the average
consume in the same way. It’s a bit ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// amongst those who did was about £4.50.
mental really! The industry needs to do some serious PR
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// » David Mogendorff It was a genius idea to explain to its customers why the current
for Radiohead, and proved that music fans typical download price for an album of
» Stephen Godfroy It proved that if artist and respect the work of their favourite artists £7.99 (from which the label typically re-
audience can connect efficiently then physical and are prepared to pay for it. I think it could ceives about £5.00 as it happens) can
music formats will always deliver greater value work again in the right circumstances but is be justified.
(to both artist and audience) than the value in no way a model for all. Younger consumers //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
derived from selling/owning digital music files. especially are used to getting music free, will
It remains a great ‘circumnavigating’ moment, continue to take it for free and will access » Paul Stokes Big established bands don’t
one that continues to give confidence and it in the way that they want to access it, as need record labels, fair play to them.
inspiration to anyone with the freedom to think shown by the torrent activity around the In What we didn’t learn, though, is who will
for themselves. Rainbows release. take a risk and pay for new talent in
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» Will Kinsman In Rainbows showed that » Ben Winchester It was all about the public-
creative ideas and out-of-the-box thinking can ity. Ideas like that can only be used once.
work. That said, it’s not a model that would Ultimately, you have to ask whether it changed
work for all bands; a number of factors – the their career path.
band’s loyal fan base, the fact that they were //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
out of contract with EMI and thus free to record
and release an album on their own, the fact
that they’re a clued-up band backed by a highly
resourceful management team – meant Ra-
diohead were able to make a unique business
model work.
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What will happen


to the live sector in 2009?
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In a recession, promoters are likely to find fans’ wallets are squeezed
when it comes to buying live show tickets …

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» Dave McGeachan Hopefully people will » Rob Andrews Kids now want to play » Robert Reynolds Ticket prices will decrease.
still be attracted by the whole live experi- in a band rather than become a DJ. Some venues will try the “season ticket” model
ence – looking forward to going to the gig, The increase in bands has led to an increase where one fee lets you see multiple acts. We
meeting up with friends and obviously see- in venues for live music. Social networking ought to see some innovation here – I’m looking
ing the show. We have six stadium shows sites have proved invaluable in getting band forward to it.
booked for next summer as well as T in the awareness out there which has meant that //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Park, a projected 330 shows in King Tut’s gigs are better attended. I think we reached
Wah Wah Hut and approximately 850 gigs saturation point with the number of » Stephen Godfroy Alas, the live show sector
across various venues throughout the year. festivals last year and predict that only will continue to serve audiences with
Overall ticket sales are good, but as the really big ones will survive in the terrible beer.
promoters we have to keep an overview long term. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
of how many shows we put into the market, //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
especially in the current financial climate.
People are maybe being a bit more particu- » Dominic Hardisty Punters’ wallets are re-
lar about what they choose. As a company ally feeling the pinch from the credit crunch
we put on more shows in 2008 than and historical evidence suggests that people
ever before. will spend more time at home than out
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» Will Kinsman After a few years of unprec-
edented growth, I fear the live sector may » Charlie Marshall Things will get tougher
suffer in 2009. At the top end that shouldn’t for the medium size acts but remain robust
be so much of a problem; it will simply mean for the stadium fillers, festivals and the
bands playing smaller venues, or fewer grassroots mass (very low margin, make
nights at the biggest venues. My hope is your money from the beer). Maybe the
that the bottom rungs of the ladder aren’t recession will bring more vibrancy to live
too badly affected, as this might make it music - it has in the past. Sponsorship
unviable for smaller bands to tour, at a and advertising needs to get smarter –
time when fewer bands can rely on the expect more corporate cash to flow
deep pockets of a major label to provide towards live music but with more strings
tour support. attached.
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Should Radio 1 and Radio 2


be privatised?
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Political debate raises key issues about the wisdom of taxpayer-funded radio.

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» David Mogendorff The BBC is a unique and » Dharmash Mistry The BBC’s public sector » Dominic Hardisty It is only a matter of time
incredibly valuable piece of British culture objectives can be met in other ways. There is before politicians realise that R1 and R2 don’t
and should be protected at all costs. Having sufficient supply of music radio via traditional offer any public service benefits that couldn’t
said that, I do believe that their remit should channels, digital radio, internet jukeboxes and just as easily be provided by commercial
be reviewed to ensure that they are provid- access to global stations on the net. With con- franchisees. Further, BBC Radio - with a 55%
ing a service that a commercial broadcaster sumer choice being so abundantly available, the share of listenership - significantly distorts
couldn’t (or wouldn’t) deliver in both their BBC no longer needs to meet this need, hence an already troubled commercial market that
daytime and specialist slots. Given the R1 and R2 should not be tax-payer funded. now faces life-threatening competition from
amount of influence that rests with their Privatisation seems a credible next step. myspace, youtube and last.fm. Privatising R1
music team, it’s important that they are not ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// and R2 would yield a windfall that could provide
open to allegations of favoritism to any years of financial and editorial independence
major labels. » Will Kinsman For all the BBC’s faults, I think for other BBC services such as R3 and R4 which
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// it’s important to maintain a broadcasting could not survive in the commercial sector.
service that is independent of commercial //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
» Charlie Marshall From the BBC’s point of considerations. I would like to see wholesale
view, losing R1 would be disastrous for many changes to both stations, not least the playlists » Dave McGeachan Without the BBC stations,
reasons, primarily its reach into 14-21 year olds and DJs, but in general I support the concept of there would be no real mouthpiece for new
- the only other BBC brands which consistently licence fee-funded mainstream broadcasting. music. Both also manage to cross a variety of
cut through for this age group are Match of the ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// genres and present the latest offerings on the
Day and Eastenders. So the theory of a lost new music scene, challenging people’s tastes.
generation comes one step closer. R2’s appeal » Paul Stokes We need a public service broad- R1’s new music programming is also the most
is broader, so demographics are less of an is- caster that is prepared to shine light on new effective way for independent artists to reach a
sue. However, the reach and cross-promotion- or minority talent and we have to accept that substantial and new audience.
al might of R2 is clearly key to the BBC’s entire in order to gain that audience in the first place //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
portfolio. they have to compete with commercial chan-
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// nels part of the time. I just wish they would stop » Dave Goldberg I don’t think that the govern-
staging concerts and events that would exist in ment should be in the broadcasting business.
the private sector. The Killers at Royal Albert Hall We do fine in the US without government
would take place anyway. It would be good to see broadcasters.
these resources used on artists who couldn’t do //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
that themselves.
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Will 2009 be the year in which the industry


calls time on 360-degree deals?
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Many question the wisdom of bundling deals for record sales, touring, merchandising
and music publishing into one package.

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» Tim Parry I think that 360-deals will still » David Mogendorff The “360” label itself is » Dominic Hardisty 360-degree deals repre-
be around but the way they are initiated will very clichéd, but the basic principle of doing sent a triumph of spin over substance: there
change. Management companies and smaller deals encompassing more than one part of are few if any circumstances in which a 360-
labels are best positioned to develop new the mix will remain. It is down to the artist and degree deal makes sense for either artist or
artists, then working in tandem with majors to their management to choose a strong team investor. Then again, since when did the music
accelerate later-stage growth. The majors will for every aspect of their business; if more industry behave rationally? Instead we favour
expect a part of other income without trying to than one function can be served best by the creating a ‘360-degree web’ to help the artist
move directly into other areas of the business. record label then it would make sense to take attract the best label, manager, publisher
The deals will be centred around management advantage of it. and live agent, then have these work together
companies and smaller labels. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// whilst each concentrates individually on what
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// they already do best. Which … erm … looks
» Dave McGeachan I would like to see them rather like the “old” way of doing business!
» Robert Reynolds No, but it damned well disappear, but it’s not very likely given the cur- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
should be! We need to find ways to profit rent financial climate. Most of the time I think
from the creation of music, not just taking they do very little to help the majority of artists. » Stephen Godfroy There will always be a force
money from an artist’s right pocket to fill his ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// for ‘catch all’ agreements out of simplicity,
left. This practice also shifts the focus of efficiency and greed. But as Harry Callahan
labels from signing good music and finding » Dave Goldberg They clearly don’t make any said in Magnum Force after he dispatched his
a way to monetize it towards signing bands sense for major labels. The only thing labels self-deluded boss, ‘A man’s gotta know his
that make money touring. 360-deals are not should focus on is recording and publishing rights. limitations’.
a solution to our struggling business – this Ironically, most 360-deals exclude publishing. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
is surrender. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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» Ian Dutt Every band needs a different type


of deal. Those who heralded the 360 deal as
the saviour of record companies and scourge
of management were simply headline-seeking,
since neither are true.
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And now guys and gals …


should BBC1 bring back Top of the Pops?
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Seen as a dinosaur of a show, ToTP, the programme that gave us Jimmy Savile and Pan’s People,
seemed long defunct … until Christmas specials hinted at revival.

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» David Mogendorff It is still a very strong » Mark Collen Only if they can give it a slot » Dominic Hardisty A viewer interested in
brand, there’s nothing else like it out there at that will give it a guaranteed 3-4 million prime Girls Aloud is unlikely to then want to watch
the moment and it still has the potential to time audience and a strong production team. I the Kings of Leon. However, ToTP remains
sell records. However, if they do bring it back would vote for a 7.30 Thursday night slot. Back a heritage brand (think Dr. Who) that could
they need to get it right – make it for the to basics. Oh – and it’s way beyond time Jools easily be leveraged into several, more tar-
audience and not the producers, pundits or was retired from Later. I’d love to see Dermot geted music television shows at different
industry. Ensure the music featured on it is O Leary host it - his Radio 2 show sessions are times and on different channels.
exciting, relevant and occasionally surpris- excellent and he has a great manner with both The BBC could perhaps hold a beauty
ing (not just another place to see the same artists and audience. parade for independent producers to
bunch of artists who are currently doing ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// make different, genre-based shows,
promo). Leave out the patronising interviews letting the most successful rise to the
and concentrate on quality live performanc- » Paul Stokes Not if it’s going to be like that top of the pile.
es. Get the time slot right and give it time yawn-fest on Christmas day this year, no. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
to bed in. And back it up with strong If they’re up for revitalising it and making
interactive elements to engage it exciting and relevant to 2009 then yes. It » Stephen Godfroy No. It would be like dating
the audience. seems ridiculous that music doesn’t have a an old girlfriend! Life moves on, even if
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start by getting rid of the presenters! //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
» Charlie Marshall Definitely! Just before //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
it was canned we tried to explain to the BBC
that ToTP is not primarily a music show but » Dave Goldberg Sure.
an entertainment show for the family. It //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
could be a solid success if it stops trying to
be CD:UK and tries to be what it always was
- a show which mum, dad and the kids could
watch and comment on. The mag and the
press around the Christmas show demon-
strate the power of the brand. It needs
some careful planning though – which we’d
love to have a crack at!
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