This Thursday past, at the council meeting a straw poll was requested, actually this was the third

straw poll that evening. I called that Not in Order. The Mayor had a smart remark and we ended up not taking that poll. Later that evening I sent a copy of the rule to all involved. The first person to throw blame for not telling them how to do it was Bill Moritz, his words: So rather than correct the proceedings by saying we could go into a committee of the whole and come to a recommedation, you went as Goober did in an episode of the Andy Griffith Show crying "Citizen's Arrest! Citizen's Arrest!" to all around. All you did was add an extra step. Very nice. You should be so proud. It is also nice that you have your shop worn copy of the Roberts Rules you share with Christine and Michelle but no one else. You had the page bookmarked and showed them and was ready to pounce. The idea that you had the answer to the situation in the next two sentences and kept them away from the rest of us while you hung your case on the first sentence is what is so indicative about how you do things. My response:

I love how you are the arbiter of anyone who takes any action to which you take offense! I purchased a copy of the Robert's Rules of Order for Mr. Counts also, too bad he or our current city attorney hasn't taken the time to read it. Do you not have your own copy? One would think after so many years on the council that you might be interested in knowing just what the rules are! I didn't add an extra step, it was already there, you and the senior members of the council along with the attorney and the Mayor, who I might add is supposed to know the rules in order to run the meeting, have just failed to follow procedures that were in place long before I ever came on board. But then again, you do always like to kill the messenger, especially when it is me. Now you expect me to share MY knowledge with you???? Why would I even offer when it is rejected at every turn? Just like last evening when we changed two ordinances, due to their conflicting with state statutes. I have brought that subject to light on three occasions, first time, right after my first MML conference and it was blown off! I guess the third time is the charm. By the way, do you need glasses Bill? That "shop worn" copy is brand new. Fortunately it hasn't changed too much from the 10th Edition and I was able to easily find what I had marked there and transfer it over to the new one. Mr. Sweeney said he didn't draft the ordinances we changed last evening. Is that one of those clever plays on words? Well, was he sitting

in the city attorney's position at the time it was passed? Did he look at it before it was passed? Did he advise that council not to pass it and they went against his advice? Mr. Sweeney stated in the past that he has been in the position since 1999, one would think he would have at least taken a look at the state statute cited for that ordinance! Criticize all you want, Bill, you still cannot argue the fact that my statement was correct. The poll was not in order, period His response: Doris I do not take offense to finding our something is being done and then are to be corrected. What I get annoyed by is your sitting back like you are the queen of the information. You could have shared the last two sentences with the rest of us and you did not do so. We could have found out how the rest of the council felt about a matter of city business by following that additional step that you failed to share with the rest of us. You cannot help being you. That includes the Thursday night ambush tactic. That is a wholly unprofessional approach. To call Bob Sweeney out with that ridiculous demand for a reimbursement for legal fees for an ordinance that was never discovered to not comply is just more you. Perhaps you will share with us why you raised such a stink about it and then voted no when it came time to address those corrections. My response: Far be it from you to actually address the response received! Now in your mind, I am supposed to instruct the council on procedure? What about the Mayor or Mr. Sweeney? Has council ever voted to go into a committee or a quasi committee before? Way to shift both blame and responsibility to me! Why do you not address the fact that Mr. Sweeney should have caught the conflict with state law before it was ever passed by council in 2003? Why do you categorize my actions as an ambush when the fact is that those two ordinances and many others should have been corrected years ago? I have pointed out many things that have gone on improperly over the course of many years. Each time I am chastised for doing so. Instead of correcting the issues that are properly identified, a process of rationalizing begins and word twisting begins. No one wants to admit that anything is wrong. I have been forced to go over people's head to get things corrected and then more arguments are costing the taxpayers even more money when all that had to be done in the first place was admit you were wrong and correct it! We are back to the same thing here. It is easier for you and others to attack me for leading you to the truth and revealing the discrepancies than it is to admit you are wrong. The first step is to admit you have a problem, Bill. His response:

I am Bill. I have a problem. It's Doris. Then Paul Freese jumps on the bandwagon with his response: It's called teamwork! It's called approach! It's called getting things done together for the citizens of Arnold! You on the other hand have an (I) approach! How can (I) make everyone look bad? How can (I) cause an argument? Which keeps us all from getting anything done! How can (I) let people think there is something illegal happening? Have you ever thought about an approach that rather then publicly trying to embarrass City Staff you work with staff to look into the issue first. The response you would receive would be one of willing to look into the problem and if their is a mistake they would help get it fixed. When people are blindsided in front of others; their peers, citizens, supervisors, and elected officials it is not deserved and not only embarrassing for them but the City as well! Your letter to the Editor in the Leader was so hypocritical by you! You accused me of attacking Kim Roberston in public. This is what you do everyday, to every City Director and to our Attorney! My response: Paul, Teamwork? Really? Approach? Give me a break! I wouldn't even choose you or Bill to be on a dodgeball team in school, the first time you got grazed you'd run crying to a teacher complaining that someone hit you with a ball! Do you really think it is me who makes you look bad? How about you make you look bad! I have no control over your actions or deeds. In case you haven't noticed, I don't argue, I just set the facts out there, learned a long time ago not to argue with a fool. It's not a matter of making someone think something illegal is going on, all I have to do is point out what is illegal and wait for it to not be corrected! It happens all the time. I point something out and Mr. Sweeney finds some convoluted explanation to try to get around correcting the issue and allow the status quo to continue. All his research into what he perceives as threats and allegations leads to many billable hours for his ever increasing pay! Depending on which staff we are referring to here, I think they should know the ordinances they are charged with enforcing! The rules should be consistent for all people, not just better for some than others. People have jobs because they are supposed to be capable of performing their duties. Let me clue you in, I have not brought up anything in a council meeting that has not been brought up first in an email or a phone call and ample time allowed for the problem to be addressed. A council meeting is the perfect place to address issues that haven't been rectified. The public is entitled to know what is going on at any given time. You have no business admonishing a member of the press or citizen during a public council meeting. Your personal opinions belong elsewhere. Those meetings are supposed to be for conducting city business.

The department heads are to bring us recommendations, they are not the persons who are to make the decisions. We cannot just accept their word with no research of our own. In case you haven't noticed, we haven't been getting the whole story. We have only been getting just enough information to make whatever it is they want to recommend sound good. After we have made a decision based on that information, a few weeks later we get more information that may have swayed us in another directions. No more rush jobs, no more emergencies we owe the citizens careful consideration. The city attorney is supposed to be a legal advisor and let us know if something is awry. He hasn't been doing that. It seems that his opinion on certain situations can change depending on who is involved. It's OK for party A and B, but not for party C. In his mind, his opinion has more weight than even that of the Attorney General! If he knows so much, then why do I have to point out that our fines are larger than state statute allows? There are a few other laws that run afoul of state statutes that will be coming up soon and they were passed recently. There are rules, regulations, ordinances and laws on the books, if something sounds wrong, it probably is. Check it out, learn the rules and do your homework and your research and instead of accusing me of picking on you and making you look bad, you might learn something! The problem is your way is the only way and if someone doesn't agree with your way, you try to impeach them, literally! Your way isn't working, it's time to try something else. If the City Directors(not sure what you are referring to there) and the City Attorney can't stand the heat (scrutiny), then they need to get out of the kitchen.... His response: I seem to remember a police officer not from our community that you treated with no respect and publicly made to look like a fool! Yes I made a mistake on how I approached the issue and apologized to Kim Thursday. You were asked in a meeting if you would apologize and you said I don't have to and refuse to. My response( by the way the officer was from Franklin County not our community: Talk about straying from the subject and deflecting, you won't stay on point, will you? You know what Paul? He was lying to us too! You went right along with him. Why were you in such a rush to vote for that? It hasn't alleviated our problem with meth in the least. Mr. Grellner is his own press release machine. No burn units closed because of meth. No smurfers standing out on the parking lots. The thieves are stealing WalMart, Kohl's and Shop n Save blind, worse than before. Crimes are increasing! He was selling a bill of goods to us. It is the council's responsibility to ask questions, do research and separate the wheat from the chaff. The premise of an apology is that you have done something wrong. I did nothing wrong, I did my job. Did you even bother to check out that list of "facts" he sent the afternoon of that meeting? You asked who paid

Jim Gwinner, did you ask who was paying Mr. Grellner to run all over the place? You think he's doing that for free? Most of the sourcesnhe quoted went back to his original press release and had just been "picked up" by other outlets. That is a different situation all together than what you did. Kim wrote an article, it was filled with facts and figures provided by our finance department. She presented opinions from other council members. Bill expressed his chagrine that he hadn't received that phone call. That's the problem Paul, you and Bill, Phil and now the Mayor always want everything to be one-sided. You don't want the public to know the true facts, just what you want them to know. Then you get all bent out of shape when the truth starts leaking out. Why not just tell everybody the truth to begin with? BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE TOLD STOPPED! To pretend that everything is hunky-dory in this town is akin to sticking your head in the sand. If the people are unaware of the problems, how can they be alert enough help solve them? Tell people to be on the look out for theives in the stores, tell them to lock their cars because the thieves are targeting cars, tell them to close their garage doors because the theives are taking their power tools and trying to pawn them at the local pawn shop. Close that haven for drugs, prosititutes and thieves called the Value Place. It is draining value from the citizens and shoppers in Arnold. Who wants to come here and shop in our town or eat in our restaurants, if all their stuff is going to be missing when they come back out? When the thieves target out of town visitors, why would they come back? Do you even know how many sets of license plates have been stolen in the last few months? Do you know how many lockers and cars have been stolen from at the Recreation Center? The people deserve to know the truth. I will deliver that whether you like the way it is done or not. No behind the door shenanigans. All up front, like it should be. Big deal, you apologized, did anyone hear it? You should make a public apology to Kim in a council session and in writing via a letter to the editor in addition you should compliment her on the thoroughness and fairness of the article since she presented all aspects, not just your rose-colored version of the state of the rec center and golf course.