This is a recap of of a talkshoe.com presentation hosted by Gemini Research Group on November 1, 2012.

The speakers are Howard Griswold and notaxman. The phone nu mber is (724) 444-7444 with a call ID 95099. It is Episode 392 with a downloadab le audio file, TS-668835.mp3. The web address is http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho e/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=95099&cmd=tc. The transcriber provides some background information on trusts. A mother completes an Application for a Live Birth Record upon the birth of her new baby. The form does not have entries for the babys given name or family name . The form has entries for the babys first and last name. The definition of last n ame is not listed in Blacks law dictionary. Based on the research of Rod Class, it appears that last name references a legal e ntity. Rod Class cites Delaware Code Title 8 Corporations Section 617: CORPORATE NAME. The parents think they are simply recording the birth of their new baby. However , this Application for Live Birth Record also creates a trust for the new baby. When the name of a legal entity, like a trust, is written per the rules of gram mer with the first letter of each name in upper case letters followed by lower c ase letters, it is a private trust, e.g. John Doe. The parents of this new priva te trust are the grantors, the trustee is the government, and the beneficiary is the baby. [The information about the naming of private trusts was heard on an a udio mp3 file of Brandon Adams of Creditors In Commerce. He had read the informa tion in an old book on trusts. He did not mention the books title. The transcrib er is still trying to confirm this information, but it seems consistent with the general scheme.] The parents do not recieve a live birth record. Rather, the government sends the m a CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. This is the first appearance of the all upper case fi rst and last name legal entity, e.g. JOHN DOE. It is another trust. It is a pub lic trust. It is a government-created trust. The government is the grantor, the private trust of the real man who signs for it is the executor/trustee, and the government is the beneficiary. Howard Griswold and notaxman begin their story at the forty-two minute mark of t he audio file, after discussing current events. When you go into court for a traffic ticket charged to the public trust JOHN DOE , you are acting in the role of the executor or trustee or employee of the publi c trust JOHN DOE. There are many books on the duties and responsibilities of trustees. When you br each those duties, you are liable. Our current government employees and officers are just told that the legislature authorized these statutes and that it is there jobs to enforce the statutes. Th ey are not told that the government-created statutes apply only to government pr operty and employees. Do you get the point? Public officers at every level are trustees. They are the trustees. The governme nt is a trust which is there for our benefit which makes us the beneficiaries. W e are not in any way, shape or form to be the trustees. But, lo and behold, these scumbag lawyers have figured out a way to reverse ever ything.

26 USC 6903 (a) Rights and obligations of fiduciary Upon notice to the Secretary that any person is acting for another person in a f iduciary capacity, such fiduciary shall assume the powers, rights, duties, and p rivileges of such person in respect of a tax imposed by this title (except as ot herwise specifically provided and except that the tax shall be collected from th e estate of such other person), until notice is given that fiduciary capacity ha s terminated. Does anybody have any idea what Social Security really is? Social security is a group insurance program (Federal Insurance Contribution Act ). We are the wrong doers. All the participating members contribute to the losse s of each and every one of the participating members. We are now contributors t o pay the taxes and losses of all contributing parties. This puts us in a fiduci ary capacity. We have the rights and obligations of a fiduciary per the 26 USC 6 903. Read 26 USC 7701 (a) (6) Fiduciary The term fiduciary means a guardian, trustee, executor, administrator, receiver, c onservator, or any person acting in any fiduciary capacity for any person. Because you are a social security participant, you are in a fiduciary position. You have a duty to make sure that the taxes are paid in order to make sure that all the losses of all the other participating members are covered. [Being a contributor to Social Security appears to be fundamentally different fr om purchasing insurance from an insurance company. the transcriber.] Now you understand why you are the executor/trustee of your estate, [ JOHN H. DO E on the IRS Form 1040 the transcriber]. An accommodation party, according to the UCC, is someone who signs an instrument for the purpose of incurring liability on the instrument without being a direct beneficiary of the value given for the instrument. [An example of an accommodation party is a co-signer on a car loan. The co-signe r guarantees the loan, but is not a direct beneficiary of the car loan. An accom odation party is also called a surety.] A participant in the Social Security system is an accomodation party. This makes you the executor of the estate of your name spelling in capital lette rs. This makes you a resident of the federal government. The term resident means agent . This makes you the master of your own dominion, the trustee of the trust. This makes you a 14th amendment civil rights privileged citizen. Social Security is a civil rights benefit. Look for the term benefit on the Social Security application. This puts you into doing business with the government. This makes you trustee of a portion of your dominion in life as a citizen. They never told us this. They never explained. The religious educators never bro ught this out. The general public education never brought this out. Everybody who has a Social Security number is a fiduciary. The argument against Social Security is fraud. You just cant call it a fraud. Th

e elementary common law sense of fraud is deceipt. You have to explain the decei pt. You have to explain that you were deceived into something. You have to expla in that you were deceived into the fiduciary obligation. Every governerment official is in a trustee position. Every government official is a trustee of the public wheel which means the public government. Every govern ment official has a duty to act with the highest level of good faith, honesty, a nd integrity. Howard Griswold has dealt with a lot of government in his life. There is dishonest in the hiding of the fact. Material facts should have been re leased. Material facts should have been exposed. It is a fiduciary obligation th at government officials have to disclose material facts. If government officials deliberately conceal material information, then they are quilty of fraud by dec eption. Read the whole case McNally v. United States, 483 U.S. 350 (1987) U.S. Supreme C ourt. There is an oft repeated quote of the government being guilty for conceali ng material information. Public officers are the trustees and servants of the people, and at all times ame nable to them. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/483/350/case.html Read the UNITED STATES v. HOLZER at 815 F.2d 304. This designation refers to the Federal Reporter. The web site is at http://openjurist.org/816/f2d/304/united-s tates-v-j-holzer. There is a specific quote on page 307, but read the whole case for context. [A public officer is a fiduciary toward the public, including, in the case of a j udge, the litigants who appear before him, and if he deliberately conceals mater ial information from them, he is guilty of fraud. referenced by the transcriber.] Howard Griswold thinks he has just given us the whole story. And, there is a way out of this. It is the termination of Social Security. You can terminate your l iability to Social Security. The Social Security Administration is not truly a government agency as it is pri vately owned, it is operating as a government agency. Many corporations are set up anonymously in State of Delaware. Only the register ed agents name and address is required. No corporation bylaws, identification of the true owners, or officers are required. Howard does not know who owns Medicare (another privately owned organization) or the Social Security Administration. Social Security is operating under the pretense of being a government corporatio n and thus is bound within the authority of law even if it is operating privatel y. It is still doing a public service. It is limited to public authority and mus t stay within the bounds of that authority. It must operate honesty and it has n ot operated honestly. 42 UCS 401 is almost a book on Social Security. Nothing in there states that you can terminate your relationship with Social Security. [Title 42 codifies the pu blic health and welfare.] 22 USC FOREIGN RELATIONS AND INTERCOURSE states that the Social Security Adminis tration can not terminate their liability to you. If you have paid even one cent , they have to pay you the benefits for which you are entitled.

[A talkshoe online participant texted a reference to 22 USC 3310. This section references termination and reinstatement of government employment.] The government, also known as We, the People of the United States or the political class of the United States, has a security interest in all the material things purchased through our labor. A security interest was established against the fic titious UPPERCASE strawman trust name that they have given you upon the act of c ompleting an Application for Live Birth Record and registering it with the gover nment. [As a result of establishing a private (real versus fiction) trust via the Appli cation for Live Birth Record with the United States Inc., the United States Inc. is the trustee of our bodies and everything that we produce. As a trustee, the United States Inc. has a security interest in our bodies and everything that we produce. Per investopedia.com, a security interest is a legal claim on collateral that has been pledged. As trustees, the U.S. Inc. has pledged our bodies and production for loans from a group of private bankers commonly known as the Federal Reserve. So, the privat e bankers have a security interest on our bodies and labor. Then, the real man assumes liabilty for the UPPER CASE strawman trust by signing John Doe. As the signers relationship to the corporate JOHN DOE, it is presumed th at the signer is the trustee, responsible for paying all the charges. Now, the U .S. Inc. has the security interest on our bodies and everything we produce. We c ould have expressly qualified the signature as by, John Doe, agent or by grantor, Jo hn Doe or JOHN DOE. So, now the U.S. Inc. franchise JOHN DOE has a security interest in our bodies a nd everything we produce and must comply with all codes, statutes, rules and reg ulations of U.S. Inc. the transcriber.] The uppercase letter strawman is the only way a government can do business with a live natural person. They are a corporation. They can only do business with ot her corporations. That is the reason that the government needs a strawman. Corporations must be named in Roman characters. Roman characters are upper case letters. This is how a corporation is identified. It is a fictious person. A rea l persons name would be spelled in lower case letters. Howard never formally requested to file and establish a corporation/trust in the name of Howard. It was done for Howard upon the registration of the birth certi ficate. We have to file a security agreement with the Secretary of States office and the county Register of Deeds UCC office. The security agreement lists the property t hat has been acquired. Now, we have a right to make a claim against the property . UCC 3-302 [ corrected from 3-503] defines holder in due course. Under the commercial rules, the holder in due course takes the instrument free of all claims by all parties. Any instrument that is registered continues to be registered even when conveyed to another party. It is just a change of the name. Instruments that are register ed include birth registrations, land deeds, and gun registration. The holder of the instrument is the government. The property holder is us. The g overnment holds the instrument but the holding is subject to claims. We are the only one who have a right to make a claim. They can not rebut our claim because it i s lawful. We have to terminate the registration of the birth certificate and then terminat e the registration of social security by rescinding your signature. The termination of these two things have sent the IRS out of the court room. A m otion to dismiss with a right of claim was presented. Howard has not tried this with a drivers license. But, you can not get a drivers l icense unless you show the DMV a birth registration certificate to show that you are one of the trustees for the government, that you have been placed in the po sition of a government trustee. [When we start using the JOHN DOE franchise/trust, we assume the responsibility of for the U.S. Inc. franchise, we become a U.S. Inc. trustee, and a U.S. Inc. e

mployee.] They can not prosecute you for not having a drivers license or a SSN. They would not have authority over you providing that you can show by affidavit that you ar e not a resident of the State of ... [So, this is the fourth thing that is needed an affidavit that you are not a res ident of the State of ... 1. security agreements with UCC-1 filed at the county recorder and the SOS 2. terminate the birth certificate by rescinding your signature 3. terminate the SSN by rescinding your signature 4. affidavit stating that you are not a resident (agent) of the STATE OF .. . ] We dont have a registered birth certificate. We dont have a SSN that is effectivel y active because it has been terminated. Government agencies are always government agencies even when they are private co rporations. Howard is teaching that the government is limited in its authority to regulating itself. The system did collapse in 2008. They have continued to artificially support the system. Ask Dave about the email about Rule 17 (a) of Civil Procedures. The party must h ave standing when the start the foreclosure action. The attorneys do not have standing to take an action against an American unless they presume us to be a resident within the government and a trustee holding the real property they are holding for us. The government is holding the real property for us. [This is the private trust John Doe has a private estate John H. Doe. The gover nment is the trustee. When we, by signing John Doe for the JOHN DOE, accept liability as trustee for JOH N DOE, our private trust becomes an accomodation party (i.e. a co-signer, a suret y) for the U.S. Inc. We, as the trustee of JOHN DOE are holding our real property for the benefit of U. S. Inc., a private company.] And, we are holding the real property in trust for the government and taking car e of the real property for the governments beneficial monetary interest. [This ha ppens when we register the property. I think we give the property to the governm ent, we are the trustees, and the government is the beneficiary. This may be the public trust JOHN DOE and the public estate JOHN H. DOE.] The government has an interest in all the property becuase they have established bonds and used the property for collaterol and security. Every piece of propert y starting with the birth certificate and down to the puppy dog, anything that h as monetary value is monetized for their benefit. We are holding the real thing in trust for them. We are the executor and are in control of the property. If we dont take proper care and control and pay all the fines, taxes, and duties, then we are the ones who are going to be prosecuted, c ivilly or criminally for not doing our job as executor of the estate. We do not realize the position that they have put us in. We do not want to ackno wledge the position of trustee or executor. It is fraud, based on deceit. They h ave misled you into believing that you had to do these things register the birth certificate, apply for Social Security, and acknowledge being a resident of the State of ... Our body is our private property. Anything that you have acquired with your body by your own efforts is our private property. They have no authority of any kind to involve themselves in your private property. They do this by trickery and by deceipt. This constitutes fraud. And they are in a fiduciary duty to be honest and to not deceive and not mislead. All public of ficials have a fiduciary duty to the public. Deliberately concealing material in formation is a deceptive practice amounting to fraud. Read the case Jersey City v. Hague 115 A.2d 8 (1955). http://www.mindserpent.com /American_History/court/1955_jersey_city.html

Any action that is adverse to public policy has to be terminated immediately. Th e courts have said so. There has been no money or loans since 1933. There has been only the appearance of money. It appears to be money because of the dollar figure written on the pie ce of paper. They use the real value of our property to secure that piece of pap er. They took our private property for public use without just compensation. Thi s is against Article 5 of the federal Bill of Rights and most state Constitution s. They do this by deceipt and fraud. It violates their fiduciary obligations. The initial summary for this talkshoe presentationwas from American Jurisprudenc e 2d Book 63 C the chapter on public officials and employees, section 247. [2d me ans second edition.] Higher education makes it harder for people to overcome their beliefs. But, a bi t of study and effort will increase your intellect tremendously. The greatest gi ft of the world is knowledge. Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge. Howard can lead you to the water but can not make you drink. There is a lot of H oward can do for you if you will just study. It took years for Howard and notaxm an to find this information. Once we get the background, we can improve on it. It wasnt on our Creators time schedule for the information to be revealed until no w. Pay attention to the news, there are calamities all over the world. Biblical stories predict calamaties in the end times. Just recently the pieces have come together. If Howard has learned anything, it is we have a hell of a lot to learn . Howard Griswold has a desire to learn and a desire to help others. Put your effo rts in this direction and give up the acceptance for value (A4V) and other patri ot stuff. The story Howard has just told pulls all the dirty little pieces together what t hey have done to us and why they did not have the authority to do it. Howard quo tes some additional cases. 1. Georgia Department of Human Resources v. SISTRUNK et al. 249 Ga. 543 (1 982) 291 S.E. 2d 524 http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=1982792249Ga543 _1633.xml&docbase=CSLWAR1-1950-1985 Public officers are the trustees and servants of the people, and at all times ame nable to them. 2. McNally versus United States 483 U.S. 350 (1987) U.S. Supreme Court http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/483/350/case.html 3. UNITED STATES of America v. Maurice S. OSSER 864 F. 2d 1056 http://openjurist.org/864/f2d/1056/united-states-v-s-osser 4. Some case named Chicago Railroad versus Number One School District of Nu ma. [ could not locate.] Government has all the authority to make rules and regulations to regulate itsel f. Government is self-regulating with respect to its property and its officers a nd employees. Government does not regulate private property outside the governme nt. 5. Twining v. New Jersey, http://www.lawnix.com/cases/twining-new-jersey.ht ml, 211 U.S. 78, 29 S. Ct. 14, 53 L. Ed. 97 (1908). We need to pull away from doing business with the government. We need to termina te the registration. We are holding the property we think we own, in trust for them for their benefit . This is what they have done to us. [I think we put our commercial energy into property and it is private under the name John H. Doe. Then, we register it and it is GIVEN to the public name JOHN H. DOE which has a beneficiary of the government. Somehow, registration creates a trust with the government.] We can not file breach of fiduciary duty. We have to explain the deceit, we have to explain how it was done. They have misapplied the meaning of the law. This i s a breach of fiduciary duty. Set up a secured interest. Terminate those registrations. Or, sue them for breac

h of fiduciary duty for putting you in this position. 3% of the people could put the government on the right track. The plan is to go after government officials for their wrongs in their private capacity. There is nothing wrong with the government. The government creates laws and knows what it is doing. It is the people applying the laws that are wrong. It is a rare case for a law to be found unconstitutional. The courts allow the federal and state governments to operate their own business es. The deception is tying you into their governments and applying the laws to y ou. It is a breach of their fiduciary duty. The individual is liable. This shoul d be a revolutionary war without guns.