Elastic webbing is excellent for high traffic area seating and automotive webbing applications.

When applied, it creates a taut surface, yet it has enough give to provide a comfortable, no sagging, flat-surfaced seat. Elastic webbing is used especially in automotive applications and also for many types of furniture, mainly those that required a flat surface (i.e. dining chairs, rattan furniture, lounge chairs, etc.). It has a lot of stretch (25% - 30% as it needs to be affixed taut) and can be applied with a standard webbing stretcher (we recommend the Gooseneck Webbing Stretcher - it will make your life easy!) and affixed with staples (see photo above). When stretched across the frame, the elastic surface gives an extremely durable, solid foundation that is very comfortable, with just the right amount of bounce and give. Not all elasticized webbing is made of the same quality. Our elastic webbing is made by Matrix, and it is the only elastic webbing to date that has passed automotive testing and is used in passenger car seating. Often times, when replacing old elastic webbing, it appears that the webbing width is 1.75 1.5 inches. That is because the webbing has stretched out to become longer and narrower or has deteriorated. The standard width of new elastic webbing is two inches wide. Matrix Jumbo Elastic Webbing: Made by Matrix, the industry leader in elastic webbing Low elongation factors (10%) Made of the highest quality, rubberized filaments (24 gauge, 3 per strand) polypropylene yarn) - brown in color Consistently yields a high resilient, non-sagging seat Width = two inches Stretches a lot (25% - 30%), so be sure to measure the lengths you need and add a couple extra feet to account for stretch and doubled over edges (as illustrated in the photo above)

How to calculate how much you need: To order the correct quantity, think of rows (width) versus columns (length). You'll need to interweave the rows and columns together to get a firm, solid seat (see the photo above) 1. Divide the width of the seat by 2" (the width of the webbing) to determine how many rows you need to go across (ex: 14" width needs seven rows) 2. Divide the length of the seat by 2" (the width of the webbing) to determine how many "columns" you need to go up and down (18" length needs 9 columns) 3. Multiply the number of rows by the distance (ex: 7 rows x 14" = 98") 4. Multiply the number of columns by the distance (ex: 9 columns x 18" = 162") 5. Add the rows and columns together (ex: 98" + 162" = 260") 6. Multiply the 260" by 75% (or .75) to account for the 25% stretch (100% - 25% = 75%) - ex: 260" x .75 = 195" 7. Divide 195" by 12" to get number of feet (ex - 195"/12 = 16.25 (rounded to 17) feet 8. Add three extra feet to account for wrapping (you'll need to wrap the webbing over itself to staple or wrap it around something - like a bar - to affix the webbing). See the affixed edges on the photo above to see how you'll need to wrap the edges. Better to be safe and order a few extra feet than to order under and be short in the middle of a project! 9. Total amount needed: 20 feet

Whether you are new to the world of upholstery or an old pro, one of the things that you will encounter frequently is webbing. Webbing is often found in sitting furniture (chairs and couches) as a functional foundation upon which cushions are placed. The purpose of webbing is to be flexible enough to provide a comfortable sitting area, but strong enough to provide a functional suspension. Exposed webbing is often present in certain types of outdoor furniture, where bands of plastic or rubber are stretched across aluminum frames to provide a seating area. Generally, there are four types of webbing used in upholstery, though only three of them are in widespread use. Type 1 - Jute For many years, jute has been by far the most common webbing material found in furniture suspension systems. Jute is a natural, vegetable fiber that can be spun into extremely strong bands. These bands are then stretched over furniture frames to form what is known as the webbing for the furniture seat and back. Jute has been used as furniture webbing for hundreds of years, and was virtually the only material used for this purpose up until the 1950s when other, synthetic materials began to appear in this capacity. When jute is employed, coil springs are typically necessary for comfort and support. Jute webbing provides the structural framework upon which these springs rest. Jute is typically stretched as tightly as possible across seat and back frames of sitting furniture, and is also woven together in order to provide maximum structural integrity. Type 2 -Rubber Rubber webbing is currently the material of choice for furniture constructed in Europe, with somewhere in the neighborhood of 90%

of furniture constructed there employing rubber webbing. One of the main benefits of rubber is its inherent strength as a material, combined with its elastic qualities. This allows furniture constructed with rubber webbing to often exclude coil springs, decreasing production costs. Rubber webbing is typically attached to furniture framing using staples, but specialized clips that serve the same purpose do exist. Type 3 -Polyolefin As its name would imply, polyolefin webbing is constructed from a synthetic, petroleum-based production process. Polyolefin webbing is used in very much the same way as jute webbingthat is, wound in a woven pattern around furniture framing to provide support. As a synthetic fiber, polyolefin is slightly more expensive than jute or rubber, but it has the benefit of not being susceptible to water damage or losing strength due to rotting. Type 4 - Steel Steel webbing is included in this list only as an afterthought, as it is not at all commonly used in modern furniture. For a time, steel webbing was being used occasionally, but this practice has all but entirely ceased.

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1.-Armazn. De madera de pino, escuadrado, encolado y unido por grapas tipo 90/50. 2.-Armazn. De madera de pino y tablero de partculas (Aglomerado) de 18 mm. en laterales, escuadrado todo, encolado y unido por grapas tipo 90/50. 3.-Revestimiento interior de la estructura, parte com espuma de poliuterano, parte con fieltro tipo R-300 con soporte de rafia plstica (Napa). 4.-Respaldo cinchado con cincha elstica de 60 mm. 5.-Asiento cinchado con mquina con cincha marca NEA, de 80 mm, tipo 680 Elasbelt, con una garanta de 10 aos. 6.-Almohadas de asiento, con bloques de espuma de poliuterano de 25 Kg/m3, recubiertos con fibra acrlica de 300 gramos encolada. 7.-Almohadas de asiento, con bloques de espuma de poliuterano de calidad HR, recubiertos con fibra acrlica de 300 gramos encolada. 8.-Almohadas de asiento, con bloques de espuma de poliuterano de 30 Kg/m3, recubiertos con fibra acrlica de 300 gramos encolada. 9.-Almohadas de asiento, bloques de muelles ondulados envueltos con espuma de 25 Kg/m3 y las parte superior del almohadn con fibra de poliester siliconizada de alta recuperacin y rizamiento tridimensional; es antialrgica, ecolgica y totalmente reciclable, repele la humedad, no txica termoaislante, transpirable, elstica, suave al tacto y especialmente dinmica (Impide la formacin de aglomeraciones en los almohadones). 10.-Almohadas de respaldo de fibra de poliester siliconizada de alta recuperacin y rizamiento tridimensional; es antialrgica, ecolgica y totalmente reciclable, repele la humedad, no txica termoaislante, transpirable, elstica, suave al tacto y especialmente dinmica (Impide la formacin de aglomeraciones en los almohadones). 11.-Almohadas de Respaldo, de espuma de poliuterano de diversas densidades, recubiertos con fibra acrlica de 300 gramos encolada. 12.-Almohadas de apoyabrazos, de espuma de poliuterano de diversas densidades, recubiertos con fibra acrlica de 300 gramos encolada. 13.-Almohadas de apoyabrazos, de fibra de poliester siliconizada de alta recuperacin y rizamiento tridimensional; es antialrgica, ecolgica y totalmente reciclable, repele la humedad, no txica termoaislante, transpirable, elstica, suave al tacto y especialmente dinmica (Impide la formacin de aglomeraciones en los almohadones). 14.-Hilo, para costuras, de tres cabos. 15.-Cremalleras, calidad inyectadas de malla 5. 16.-Patas de madera acabadas con barniz de poliuterano, y unidas con

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I am in the process of building seats for my t-bucket project. Since I have no umm padding on my rearend I will be using webbing to help cushion the ride. My question is - How much do you stretch the webbing when installing it? Is there a standard such as - stretch 1/4 inch for every inch of cut length? or is it more of a "How firm do you want it" kind of thing?

I am documenting the entire process from start to finish, I am currently here: There is a 4 inch border around the seats, leaving 8inches in the middle, I plan on creating a fold down armrest for the center.

I am planning on using marine vinyl with 3/8 sewfoam, 2 inch c45 foam base, 1 inch c45 foam for sculpting, on the back I am using a 1 inch c45 for the base, and c35 for the sculpting. Once everything is done, I will try and post up a step by step. Thanks.
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First of all, you really need bigger openings, or all you'll be doing is sitting on the plywood, and the webbing won't have any effect. I would leave 2 1/2" around the perimeter and 5" in the middle. That's plenty with a 3/4" plywood base. It needs to be supported on both ends and in the middle. 3" of 45 compression foam is an absolute minimum. If you're a big guy that wouldn't be enough. What kind of webbing do you have? It looks like back webbing and not seat webbing. 3" wide #7 seat webbing only stretches about 5%, 2" wide #6 seat webbing stretches 20%, and 2" wide #2 back webbing stretches 90%. There is no rule of thumb for how much to stretch the seat webbing, but you can only stretch it so far. Pull it tight, but don't go crazy. If you don't stretch it enough you defeat the purpose too. __________________ __________________________________ No one lives forever, the trick is creating something that will. __________________________________
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Okay lets see. I can adjust the openings with out issue. The 5 wedges you see in the pic are the seat supports, one on each side of the openings and one right in the middle. I was told the webbing was seat webbing, but after seeing in another one of your posts to look for the redline down the middle, I will go back and see if the upholstery shop has the red. Adding more foam on the bottom should not be an issue, I bought plenty of extra! Go to know on the stretch. Thanks.

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Oh yeah, Thanks for all your contributions on this forum, I have spent days reading through your threads. It has and will help me throughout the build process.

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If you have seat webbing, it should not stretch much. If it's back webbing, it stretches very easily. The red line is really only for the brand of elastic webbing called Intes Elasbelt. If you have another brand and it is actually seat webbing that's fine. __________________ __________________________________ No one lives forever, the trick is creating something that will. __________________________________
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Thanks, I called the shop I got the webbing from, they told me that's all they use for seat bottoms. I won't say its hard to stretch, but it is certainly not easy. If it proves to be to soft, not that I can see that happening, I can always redo the webbing. Another question is, spacing on the webbing? I was planning on weaving them and running with about a 1/4 inch spacing. I also plan on covering the webbing with some vinyl prior to adding foam, figure it should help the foam live a little longer. I know some folks use burlap. Any other things to consider?
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Here is how I did my '27 RPU. Same concept as you but I only left about 1-1/2" of plywood around the edge, then crossed he elastic material.

Originally I was planning to use springs:

My upholsterer talked me into foam. My butt wishes I would have used springs for the bottom....... I am thinking about edoing the base to use the springs.

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Very nice. The pics help a ton. How is that short windshield?
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Originally Posted by Keeper Very nice. The pics help a ton. How is that short windshield?

It's great! I actually look over the top of it (I am 6' tall), but the wind hits me just about at the top of my head.
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Originally Posted by Keeper Thanks, I called the shop I got the webbing from, they told me that's all they use for seat bottoms. I won't say its hard to stretch, but it is certainly not easy. If it proves to be to soft, not that I can see that happening, I can always redo the webbing. Another question is, spacing on the webbing? I was planning on weaving them and running with about a 1/4 inch spacing. I also plan on covering the webbing with some vinyl prior to adding foam, figure it should help the foam live a little longer. I know some folks use burlap. Any other things to consider?

The spacing doesn't have to be that close together. I leave about 2" in between the rows. There's no point in putting the webbing really close together, it doesn't help and it wastes a lot of webbing. You can cover the webbing with anything that will keep the foam from being pushed down through the gaps. It doesn't have to be very thick. I use Versare, which is something like typar landscape fabric. The problem with the urethane rubber webbing Lakeroadster used is that over time it gets hard and brittle and loses its elasticity. __________________ __________________________________ No one lives forever, the trick is creating something that will. __________________________________
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After working on the seats some more today, I realized this webbing has to be for the back. I strung a couple runs across the bottom and even if I pulled it tight there was still over an inch of movement. So I put the bottom on hold until I can get some webbing, hopefully tomorrow. Here are some progress pics: I took your recommendation and cut some more wood out of the base:

Then I started on the back: Once I cut the first piece, I set it in place and realized it wasn't going to work at the angle I wanted. So I used it to make a template:

Then I cut out the back, I plan on webbing the back as well, so I measured that out and made the cuts:

Now for the upper part of the back, I borrowed some ideas from chair making, you can see the hard board I used for the template in the last pic. I then cut the plywood to rough shape and glued it all up. Tomorrow I will finish the shape and carve out the reliefs at the top: This is where I stopped for the night.

I did not mean to turn this into a step by step post, once I am finished I will do up a full on post.
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Seat webbing is usually about an eighth of an inch thick, and back webbing is usually thinner than that. What are the four pieces of plywood you are gluing together for? __________________ __________________________________ No one lives forever, the trick is creating something that will. __________________________________

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Those are for the shaped back section. Here is the end result of the frame:

I played around with different foams, thicknesses and placements last night while watching the hockey game. Pretty comfy.