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NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES

TWELFTH PUBLIC HEARING • JUNE 8-9,2004
NTSB BOARDROOM • 490 L'ENFANT PLAZA, SW • WASHINGTON, DC

THE 9/11 PLOT

TUESDAY, JUNE 8

8:30-9:00 a.m. STAFF STATEMENT NO. \f>

Overview of the Enemy

9:00 - 10:30 a.m. PANEL: ALQAEDA

AH Soufan
9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

Patrick Fitzgerald

1 0:30 -11:30 a.m. STAFF STATEMENT NO. if

Outline of the 9/11 Plot 9/l Law Enforcement Privacy

1 1 :30 - 12:30 p.m.

12:30- 1:00 p.m. BREAK

1 :00 - 2:00 p.m. Saudi Panel

2:00 - 2:30 p.m. /"STAFF STATEMENT NO.

Plot Problems

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9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy
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3:30 ~ 4:00 p.m. STAFF STATEMENT NO. if

Domestic Support Network?

4:00-5:00 p.m. John Pistole

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June 8 Hearing

The 9/11 Plot

Tuesday, June 8

9:00-9:30 a.m. Staff Statement

Overview of the Enemy (Team 1)

9:30-11:00 a.m. Panel: Al Qaeda (Team 1)

Witnesses: Ali Soufan

9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

Patrick Fitzgerald

11:00 a.m.-12:30 p.m. Staff Statement

Outline of the 9/11 Plot (Team 1 A)
(include computer presentation)

12:30-1:00 p.m. Staff Statement

Plot Problems (Team 1A)

1:00-2:00 p.m. Break

2:00-4:00 p.m. Panel: The Plot and the Plotters (Team 1 A)

Witnesses: DRG witness

CTC witness
Aaron Zebley
9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

4:00-4:30 p.m. Staff Statement

A Domestic Support Network? (Team 1A)
 Hearing, June 8-9,2004

June 8 Hearing

The 9/11 Plot

Tuesday, June 8

9:00-9:30 a.m. Staff Statement

Overview of the Enemy (Team 1)

9:30-11:00 a.m. Panel: Al Qaeda (Team 1)

Witnesses: Ali Soufan

9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

Patrick Fitzgerald

11:00 a.m.-12:30 p.m. Staff Statement

Outline of the 9/11 Plot (Team 1A)
(include computer presentation)

12:30-1:00 p.m. Staff Statement

Plot Problems (Team 1 A)

1:00-2:00 p.m. Break

2:00-4:00 p.m. Panel: The Plot and the Plotters (Team 1A)

Witnesses: DRG witness

CTC witness
Aaron Zeblev
9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

4:00-4:30 p.m. Staff Statement

A Domestic Support Network? (Team 1 A)

Witness/panel possibilities:
Krauss
Flight instructors
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Panel One: Evolution of the Plot

Witnesses: CTC and DRG

Panel Two: The Hamburg Cell

Witnesses: CIA and FBI (Zebley)

Panel Three: Hijackers Activities in the United States

Witnesses: FBI Penttbom

Panel Four: Disobedience, Disagreement, and Dissent

Witnesses: DRG

Scope
Timing
Targets
Alternate Hijackers

Individual Profiles
Recruitment

Contrast Pilots with NAH, KAM, and HH

NAH and KAM Disobedience

Internal Disagreement
Leadership Dissent
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Team 1A Hearing Proposal

Panel Ones: Evolution of the Plot

Witnesses: ClA

Staff Statement #1:

• Scope of the 9/11 operation: 10 planes, SE Asia component,, second wave

• Timing of the attacks: postponements, UBL wanting to hurry \
• Targets: initial list of possibilities, UBL/Atta dynamic, WH/Congress
• Alternate Hijackers: list of btw 8-12 suspected dropouts, reasons why

Basic Idea: This panel would allow us to explore a variety of topics illustrating how the
"planes operation" was not rigidly conceived or even executed, but rather how the plan
constantly evolved from its inception into what the public knows of the attacks.

Panel Two: A Global Conspiracy

Witnesses: CIA (CTC) and FB] |

Staff Statement #2:

• Overview of leadership (Afghanistan, Pakistan), facilitators (Pakistan, UAE), and

operatives (Germany, Saudi Arabia, U.S)
• Structure of conspiracy (Binalshibh as link btw operatives and leadership, etc)
• Means (phone, email, couriers) and mode (codes, etc) of communication and
financing (travelers checks, wire transfers, cash, etc)
• Contrast between German pilots and West Coast crew/in the U.S.

Basic Idea: This panel would allow us to frame the 9/11 conspiracy as one that spanned
at least three continents and to cohesively explain how the Various parts of the conspiracy
interacted across the globe (in terms of direction, communication, and financing).

Panel Three: Hijackers Activities in the United States

Witnesses: FBI Penttbom (Jackie Maguire, Jim Fitzgerald^

Basic Idea: This panel would be covered under Staff Statement #2 and would allow us to
focus on the domestic elements of the 9/11 operation / namely how there were really two
cadres of operatives in the U.S. (Atta/Hazmi) with totally different MOs.

9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

Panel Four: Disobedience, Disagreement, and Dissent

Witnesses: CIA (CTC and DRG)

Staff Statement #3:

• Hazmi and Midhar as experienced but not disciplined operatives (Midhar did not
train with KSM, both went to Bagkok, Midhar left the U.S. without permission)
• Internal disagreements: Atta and Jarrah (detainee reporting and IMs)
• Dissent among al Qaeda leadership: Shura council division over 9/11 attacks
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Basic Idea: This panel would allow us to challenge the well-publicized paradigm of the When h£ w
9/11 conspirators as a coherent, unified, and totally disciplined group. As we now know,
there were several times when not everybody was on the same page, from the operatives
to the pilots, and even among the al Qaeda leadership.
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