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Nigeria's Igbo Jews: 'Lost tribe' of Israel?


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Among the Igbo people of Nigeria exists a small group of practicing Jew s Jew ish Igbos believe they are descendants of 'lost tribes' of Israel w ho settled in Nigeria Some draw many parallels betw een Jew ish and Igbo customs Others claim Igbo civilization is older than that of the Israelites

Abuja, Nigeria (CNN) -- A Shabbat service is underway at the Ghihon Hebrew Research synagogue in the Jikwoyi suburb of Nigeria's federal capital territory. Fourteen year-old Kadmiel Izungu Abor heads there with his family. They walk alongside stray goats on a road covered in red dust and potholes, lined with open sewage. They are nearly 20 kilometers away from the modern multi-story office buildings and sprawling mansions in Nigeria's capital city of Abuja. About 50 people gather in the synagogue. They pray from the Siddur, they read from the Torah and as they chant, Abor's mellow alto begins to rise. In a country of 162 million people tensions often lead to violent uprisings between Christians and Muslims and being part of the religious minority can be an issue. But Abor wears his kippah and his identity with pride. "I am a Jewish Igbo," he says. The Igbo are one of Nigeria's largest ethnic groups with population estimates ranging from 20 to 50 million. Abor is convinced that the Igbo's ancestors were Jews. "The son of Yaakov, Jacob, [was] Gad and I learned that he was among those people who went out of Israel to exile," Abor says. "So from there he had a son called Eri and a son gave birth to a son called Aguleri and that's how the Igbo race began." From generation to generation, some Igbo have passed down

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various versions of a migration story framed around Jacob, a patriarch of Judaism. A popular version of the narrative holds that Gad, the seventh son of Jacob, had three sons who settled in present-day southeastern Nigeria, which is predominantly inhabited by the Igbo. Those sons, Eri, Arodi and Areli (as mentioned in the book of Genesis), are said to have fathered clans, established kingdoms and founded towns still in existence in southeastern Nigeria today, including Owerri, Umuleri, Arochukwu and Aguleri. Read More: The forgotten story of Zambia's Jewish settlers Eze A.E. Chukwuemeka Eri, the king of a community in Aguleri, claims he presides over the throne of Gad's son, Eri.

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Wearing a white shirt with the Star of David stitched on the front, King Eri points to a calendar on the wall of his palace that lists the names of his 33 predecessors. He has no doubts that Eri is his ancestor. He has even acquired land to establish an educational center for the study of Jewish culture. "Israelites and Igbos are brothers," he says with a broad smile. King Eri, like many, claims that the Igbo are the Jews of West Africa. They believe they are descendants of at least one of Israel's lost tribes. In the eighth century B.C. the Assyrians invaded Israel's northern kingdom forcing 10 tribes into exile. Historians say it is not unlikely that these tribes migrated westward to Africa.
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"When I grew up I heard, like virtually every Igbo here, that the Igbo people came from Israel," the Abuja-based lawyer says. His field work in Nigeria, Chad, Niger and Mali led him to conclude that Igbo and Jewish culture are not just similar, but "identical." In his latest book, Ilona draws parallels between Igbo rituals and customs and those practiced by Jews. Shared traditional practices include circumcising male children eight days after birth, refraining from eating "unclean" or tabooed foods, mourning the dead for seven days, celebrating the New Moon and conducting wedding ceremonies under a canopy. Some historians have noted that the Igbo were practicing these customs before their exposure to the Bible and missionaries. Daniel Lis, from the Institute for Jewish Studies, University of Basel, Switzerland, is one of the foremost researchers on Jewish identification among the Igbo. He says there has been a clear continuity of Jewish identity among the Igbo. "It's not just something that happened yesterday," he says. The Swiss-Israeli anthropologist says that Igbo-Jewish identity can be traced back to the 18th century. Crosscultural comparisons have been documented by people ranging from George Thomas Basden, the influential Anglican missionary and ethnographer who proposed that the word "Igbo" evolved as a corruption of the word "Hebrew," to Olaudah Equiano, a freed Igbo slave living in 18th century British society. The oral stories and historic notations of cultural resemblances between the Igbo and the Jews have proven compelling enough to lure a diverse array of people to southeastern Nigeria.

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Michael Freund, an American Jew based in Israel, is planning his first trip to Nigeria to get a first-hand look at the culture of the Igbo. "I've read about them but of course there is nothing like actually hearing the stories of the people themselves," he says. Discovering "lost" Jewish communities around the world is what Freund does. He is the founder and chairman of the independent non-profit organization Shavei Israel. According to its media spokesperson Arik Puder, Shavei Israel is the only organization in Israel that focuses on finding descendants of the legendary lost tribes. He says the Israeli government does not recognize ethnic communities in various countries claiming to be descendants of lost tribes.
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They cannot prove that they have a Jewish grandfather or grandmother, but they do have an interesting story.
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"They cannot prove that they have a Jewish grandfather or grandmother," Puder says. "But they do have an interesting story." Freund says he has received numerous letters and emails from Nigerians trying to connect to Israel. But with a rising number of groups around the world attempting to link their ancestry to the ancient Israelites, he is aware that some of those claims are "wishful thinking." He hopes that the future will yield strong genetic evidence to help the search for the lost tribes.

"As DNA technology improves there will be a growing stock of scientific evidence which can perhaps buttress the claims of an Israeli ancestry," he says. A 2012 documentary called "Re-Emerging: The Jews of Nigeria" featured the country's Jewish community. The film featured Rabbi Howard Gorin. He retired from the congressional rabbinate in 2012 after 32 years as the spiritual leader of a Jewish congregation in the U.S. state of Maryland. Gorin has played a significant role in the rise of Judaism in Nigeria since his first trip to the country in 2004. "I embrace them and support them as brothers and sisters," he says. He ships books on Judaism to synagogues in Nigeria. Watch video: Lagos megacity More support comes from groups like Kulanu, a New York-based non-profit group. Kulanu assists emerging Jewish communities around the world, like the one in Nigeria. But most of the Igbo who practice Judaism were not born to a Jewish mother and have not converted according to halakhah, Jewish law, so many Orthodox Jews would not recognize them. Even among Igbo people, the claim to be Jews elicits strong criticism. One critic, Catherine Acholonu, attributes Jewish identification among the Igbo as a result of Christianity brought by missionaries, since most Igbo people are Christians.

Everybody is excited to say they belong to the people of the Bible because the Bible is reigning - it's in.
Catherine Acholonu

"Everybody is excited to say they belong to the people of the Bible because the Bible is reigning -- it's in," says Acholonu, a prominent researcher on Igbo history and culture. In her award-winning book "They Lived Before Adam" Acholonu proposes that Igbo civilization is older than that of the Israelites. She feels that Igbo people are whitewashing their history and diminishing the value of their own culture by attempting to link their heritage to the Jews. Peter Agbai, who says he is a "proud Igbo man," strongly

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He started practicing Judaism in 1991 after leaving the Methodist church. He says that the more he followed the commandments in the Torah, the more he realized that he was doing what his parents had always done as followers of traditional Igbo culture and spirituality. "I have seen that the traditions of our people are similar to those in the Bible," says the 66-year-old, making references to aspects like ritual bathing and polygamy. Agbai is one of the founders of the Ghihon synagogue. He plays an important role as a spiritual leader in Abuja's community of Igbo Jews. He attended Abor's bar mitzvah last year, an experience that Abor says made him feel like a man, and feel closer to the Jewish culture. He wants to go deeper into Orthodox Judaism and take a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. "I want to live in Israel," Abor says. He hopes that there, he will get a better understanding of his forefathers.

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5 months ago

we should be proud of whom we are our land is bigger than that of isreal we are industrious & resourceful why should we even dream of going to isreal where they will segregate us because of our skin coulor.i don't want to hear this nonsense again please let the sleeping dog lay.what we need is separation from those santanic people in nigeria
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5 months ago

Are you Jewish Nigerian? It's nice to meet you,I'm exciting to discover your Jewish group. No one will do nothing to you because of your color,you're Jewish like me,it's your homeland just as much as it mines,I would like our governement to help the Igbo Jews to make an Alliyah as we say,you're more than welcomed here.
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u are a white ashkenazim or khazar 'jew' .. why do u say blacks in israel are not segregated? they are! quite the foolishness. the only real hebrews are a black nation, some are because of rape and marrying other nations white like me, but thats a different story. in general real israel is a black nations. african americans are hebrew israelites. 4 corners of the earth..remember. Jesus Yahushuah ia described by John at revelations 1 as a man with hair like wool (african hair) and hands and feet in the colour of brass like burning in a oven. please Jesus wasnt ever a white man with long hair! hebrews went into slavery again with ships! why did the slaves knew the psalms? come on people!!
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5 months ago

Well all of what you said is incorrect. I'm half Ashkenazi (Polish descent) but also half Mizrahi (Iraqi edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo
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Jews are semitics,Abraham was semitic he was born in nowadays Iraq,don't forget Jews were exiled,which means they wandered all over the world in order to find a place to settle,so some probably settled in Europe and some in Africa,but the real Jews as you claim are everyone who has Jewish mother,regardless to his skin color,because many Jews had assimilated in the exile as well,so we can't reject anyone's claim of being Jewish,but you can arrange DNA test if you want to make sure. Tell me how the Ethiopians Jews are segregated in Israel.
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You lack knowledge.

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5 months ago

Lack of knowledge about what?


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> JustLiel

5 months ago

All throughout the bible who you are was determined by your father not mother, that is a trick your ancestors came up with to hide who they really are, being a jew and jew-ish is 2 different things, you know exactly what color the messiah was if you are familiar with scripture every one of the true jews was a person of color. And still are, the real jews did not wander all over the world they were scattered, stolen out of africa were they fled to from the romans, they were sold to their enemies and went into captivity on ships, now when in the hell did your ancestors go through that? And the black peopele in israel now are treated differently I just watched a protest the other day where the whites were saying they wanted the blacks out of there.....the ones who moved out there from the states are placed in a certain area... The lies must stop, your mother has nothing to do with who you are that is a straight up lie. If the mother is black and the father is white that child is white, if the mother is chinese and the father is black that child is black. You guys are not the jews of the bible, you are converts, plain and simple.
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Well first don't teach me about my religion,Jews are semitics whether you like it or whether you don't,Jews did were scattered because of their sins by the Assyrians,Babylonians and Romans,when they wandered in the exile and they did wandered in the exile some of them assimilated with other gentiles,there are African Jews,like the Ethiopian Jews for example they have common ancestors as I have,you're Jewish according to your mother,that's it. These Africans that illegally infiltrated to Israel are job seekers and not "refugees" as they claim to be,Israel was established as an asylum for Jews,so for once they will have their own country and won't be persecuted. These Africans who infiltrated to Israel are Muslims and Christians and they harm the Jewish demographic here in Israel. There were protests of people who wanted the infiltrators out
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and since when was being a jew a religion? it is a nation of people not a religion..and we are not semitic we are shemetic...stop that madness about your mother this and that, edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo

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shemetic...stop that madness about your mother this and that, it goes by your father not your mother..the messiah was from the seed of david not mary, women have no seed.. you will never be an israelite you are an EDOMITE.
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5 months ago

Being Jewish is a religion,Judaism is a religion,what can you do about it? it is what it is,in Judaism you're being recognized as a Jew according to your mother not father,it's not a nation,Israel is a nation,Judaism is a religion,if you're mother is Jewish you're Jewish that's the rules,real Israelites are Semitics and not Shemetics as you claim to be,enough with your lies,you're fooling no one but yourself.
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5 months ago

you are finished, you dont even believe in the messiah so you are done already esau..talking about religion, did the messiah have a religion? oh yeah you dont believe in him, who in the bible...that was a holy person had a religion? which one of them? none of them had a religion, you are a phony and your day is coming when you will be exposed..
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5 months ago

How did you conclude in any certain way that I don't believe in Messiah? what I basically said was that he is yet to arrive,a faith among most of the Jews,in the time that messiah will appear the third temple will be built,this is the faith among us Jews,and not the faith that Jesus is messiah,come on now give me a break.
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sorry about that.. i understand your viewpoint,, I am a christian..married to an Igbo, thank you for explaining your viewpoint...
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you are not representing God's love..you are operating in division. calm down
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4 months ago

The people you are corresponding and dialoging with are not "Jews" by religion. They deny Judaism as a relgion of the Jewish people because they themselves are "CHRISTIAN." This is why they do not adhere to halacha and despise Jewish law. They are their own invention.
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5 months ago

if you are a jew why are you in that land? christ was black he was a jew, why are you white? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "ISRAELI'S ARE NOT JEWS" When the europeans took Israel in 1948 Arab leaders would not accept them. "you have left black and you returned white,," Abdel Gamel Nasser president of the United Arab Republic 1956....you are edomites not israelites...
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Because my ancestor Abraham wandered and settled in this land,he was born in Babylon,he was semitic just as the rest of the Jews. Jesus was not black and yes he was fully Jew,was born and died as one though was perceived as a "ransom" among the edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo

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died as one though was perceived as a "ransom" among the Jews. Who said I'm white? you just jump to conclusions,if you've ever been to Israel you would know that most of the Jews are from Arab descent and most of us are brown,including myself (Iraqi descent but also Polish descent) you just like the rest of the Americans, filled with prejudice about us Jews without verifying your claims. Most of us Jews are from:Iraqi,Lebanese,Syrian,Egyptian,Morrocan,Tunisian,Persian descent and a lot more,there are Jews all over the world. Jews had never been "black" he probably meant "brown",semitics,as I said before Jews had wandered all over the world after they've been exiled so they also settled in Europe as well,some assimilated some didn't. We are Israelites and there are DNA tests which prove it.
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LOL THE MASHIACH WAS NOT BLACK? Daniel 10:6 6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. REVELATION 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; NO NO NO YOU ARE FLAT OUT WRONG, ONLY REAL JEW, BY BLOOD ON THIS PLANET ARE DIFFERENT SHADES OF BROWN NO ARAB, NO EGYPTIAN, NO AFRICAN, NO EDOMITE, NO YOU ARE PHONIES EVEN IF YOU DON'T TRULY KNOW IT, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, JUST STOP THE MADNESS... deuteronomy 28:25 you will find that it seems that God was talking about the black people in america today.First of all, he said that if the israelites didn`t obey his commands he will put them in Egypt again.Egypt means house of bondage.Or land of bondage.He
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so truth. we know they are imposter asimilation excuss they are given is falacy.for example african-american have lived in america for more than 300years why have they not become white?still they remain blacks and some few mix mulatos they where only asimilated on culture and language.the real hebrew people are blacks
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5 months ago

that's right...these liars need to be exposed.


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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

You're the liar here,trying to sell your stories to the rest of the world,fortunately for me no one truly believes it,do you know why? because today science found that Israelites are semitics and not blacks like you claim. Now you and your sect can go make up other stories......
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God loves everyone.. you guys should stop arguing.. your practicing a religion with a God who loves everyone, and you are acting very harshly and prejudice toward one another..
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It's NOT POLITE to speak about what you do in a 3rd persontalk, Black-supremist-lier...
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> silvaokey

5 months ago

Well, anyone who had ever learned biology in his life knows that the black color is more dominant than the white color so if there is intermarriage most of the odds are that the descendants will be black. There also white descendants to black and white parents,I usually watch NBA and in this league there are a lot of white players which has black genes due to the fact that one of their parents is black.
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The REAL HEBREWS are CANAANITES, and they were WESTEN-SEMITES, definetly NOT BLACKS, or "WHITES" (which refers to Europeans skin color)... :P
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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

Oh and the fact you put on quotes from your Old testament and New testament doesn't really help me,I don't believe in this book,my book is the tanakh and there is nothing wrote about Jesus and about him being black,most of what you wrote here doesn't even mentioned in the Tanakh,keep talking,you know you're wrong,but you're brainwashed,so it's fine.
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5 months ago

Yes of course as I said before,yes there were tribes who wandered to Africa and settled there,there a lot of groups who consider themselves as descendants of one of the twelve tribes,we Jews the semitics are the descendants of the Judah tribe and Levi tribe,most of the other tribes disappeared sometimes we hear about a tribe which says it lives according to the tradition of a particular tribe,so we do our best here in Israel to bring them here and let them live here,because after all they are Jews like us,I don't reject the claim of African Jews,there are some of them,there could've been a lot more but they were forced to convert to Islam and Christianity,what I'm basically saying is that the origin of the Jews is a semitic origin,and that's proved.
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5 months ago

You can keep saying whatever you want to say my friend,but you know as good as I that the Jews in Israel are the real Jews,I have Jewish blood flowing in my veins. So what king David was described in the bible (Tanakh) as a red hair he was an Israelite from Judah tribe,have you even seen a black person with red hear?,I do not reject the claim that there were Africans in the "promised land",what about the famous story of king Solomon and queen of Sheba? they gave birth to kids,who were probably black,so I can't deny this claim,but again Jesus period is in a very late period of time and there are tons of theories about his skin color and again Abraham was semitic and he was born in Babylon. I refuted your claim about the real Jews being black,it's a known thing that the origin of Jews is from Babylon where Abraham was born which means they are semitics, and yes some came from Arab descent some from European descent and some from African descent due to the exile. edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo

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whoa whoa whoa?? have i ever seen a black person with red hair? HELL YEAH, david was described as being ruddy, that also means fair skinned i have been around a few light skinned people with red hair..In Habakkuk 3:13, I believe we have the greatest demonstration of The Name of JESUS (Y'SHUA) in the TaNaCH (The Old Testament). "Thou wentest forth for the salvation [Y'sha - a variant of Y'shua-Jesus] of thy people, even for salvation [Y'SHUA] with thine anointed [MESSIAH]..." The term MESSIAH is equal to the English CHRIST or ANOINTED ONE! Here we can see with much evidence, The Name of Y'SHUA HA-MASSIACH (JESUS THE CHRIST) in the Old Testament (TaNaCH), and what's more, He (Y'SHUA) is doing what Genesis 3:15 had predicted that 'the Seed of the Woman' would do, and that is, as mentioned in Habakkuk 3:13, "...thou woundest the head out of the house of the wicked..." stop the lies esau...you are not a true jew...even if
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Again the lies of the sour black-supremist-sad-clown... go learn about the REAL HISTORY of the African nations before you preach these Ben-Carter's-LIES... The ammount of Jewish/Israelite (or should I say: "Hebrew/Canaanite") genes in the whole black continent is so low that it directly disproves all of your lies AT ONCE.
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> Fiya_Burnz

Dude.. color is not significant.. it says nothing about being passionate about color in the bible or torah..dont waste your time on vanity
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> sis

8 days ago

It is true that we shouldn't be racists like that black-neo-nazi Fiya over here, but you got to agree that the color of the skin is an INSEPARABLE parameter from the identification of all ethnos (especialy the ancient ones).
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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

Oh and again another thing,Meshiach......which is of course a descendant of David didn't arrive yet,so yeah I don't think he is black...
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1. King David was a black man? Earlier this week I was musing on the revelation of the black race in the scriptures when I remembered that I had read that David was ruddy. I found two texts in the Book of 1 Samuel. In the text, God had sent Prophet Samuel to Bethlehem with the intent of anointing a King to replace Saul: And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all [thy] children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither
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> JustLiel

5 months ago

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And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy (admoniy/H 132), [and] withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this [is] he. Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit see more of the LORD came upon
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Alright we'll go over it again,seems like you really have a hard time understanding,Abraham was semitic (semitics are mostly brown people) if Abraham was semitic Jacob was obviously brown as well and also Esau,the Edomites are the descendants of Esau,we the Israelites are the descendants of Jacob,we Israelis are brown,most of the Jews in Israel are brown,these who are white are white because most of their ancestors were Jews who wandered to Europe and probably assimilated with gentiles and let's take into account the climate in Europe as well. You claim that the origin of Jews is from Khazaria and this plea was rejected according to reseaches,most of the Ashkenazi Jews have nothing to do with Jewish Khazars,there were Jewish Khazars but most of them converted to Christianity,the Khazars were Turks. There was a mentioning in the Tanakh in "Amos" book which says that the "Kushim" (blacks) are unequal in god's opinion to
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5 months ago

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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

respond on one of the last comments of mine about your saying,I explained why there is no possibility of you blacks to be the real Israelites.
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> Fiya_Burnz

8 days ago

You are an AFRICAN, NOT AN ISRAELITE, so stop preaching and lying here, mr. "I'm NOT A JEW but will try to convince the world I am the real one rather than an African"
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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

Again? why do you keep arguing when I'm telling you as in Israeli native that most of the Jews are Mizrahi Jews (Arab descent) the European Jews are real Jews as a result of ancestors who settled in Europe just like some settled in Africa,your theory is very interesting to be honest,but it's just not true,face it real Jews are semitics,but it doesn't mean that Africans can't be Jews as well,they can.
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> JustLiel

8 days ago

They can only in a RELIGIOUS MATTER, NOT BY ETHNIC.


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> JustLiel

8 days ago

His "theory" is a lame black-sad-clown-supremist LIES about "their stolen identity" while they're actually the ones that are staeling our ancestry, shouting like apes across the streets of the US, they are NOT SO FAR AWAY FROM THE NAZIS!!!
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> JustLiel

5 months ago

You said you.was ashkenaz right? That is white, no jews are of arab descent arabs come from ishmael. Your ancestor is esau plain and simple...Think what you want, but you WILL see that you have been taught lies, and you never was the chosen. edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo

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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

It doesn't matter if I'm Ashkenazi Jew or Mizrahi Jew,the origin of Jews is semitic, yeah I have polish descent and Iraqi descent,which means I'm both,Mizrahis are mostly brown,ashkenazis are mostly white,but in my father's family they are Ashkenazis but they are pretty much brown,and as I said before you have to take into account the climate in Europe. There are Jews from Arab descent,if you had ever learned history you'd know that Jews also settled in Arab countries when they were exiled,those countries weren't even Arabs until the brutal Islamic conquests journey,you can believe in what you believe dude,you know I'm right.
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> JustLiel

5 months ago

The climate has nothing to do with it, if that was the case then we should have white eskimos. The people in iraq should be black since it is so hot, every nation on earth is spoken of in the bible even the ashkenaz it tells you who they came from and everything. So I know who the people are that went into slavery on ships, I know who the people are that had their heritage stolen from them the nation not desired, I know when we fled into africa and how we got over here, I also know that hebrews were already here when that happened. I also know who funded the trans atlantic slave trade, I have seen the documents with the ship names the captains names and religion and damn near every one of them were jew-ish. The cat is out of the bag, the least you could do is admit it..... When did your people go into bondage on ships, to a land which they knew not and were sold for bond men and bond women to their enemies ? That is what happened to the israelites.....WHEN did it happen to your people?
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Oh come on are you for real now? I give you here historical facts about the origin of the Israelites which are semitics,you can look for it on the web,I brought you quotes from the tanakh which shows perfectly that the Israelites weren't blacks and you ignored it,so why more can I say,you're blind and brainwashed,I guess the sect you are belonged in did a wonderful job by influencing you with fictions stories. Of course the climate has something to do with the skin colors,the theory is that the Africans are black because it was once very hot there and people were really black due to the hot sun. Iraq isn't as hot as Sudan and other African countries,let's take the Mongol race for example,people believe that once,there were group of people trapped in freezing Siberia if I'm not mistaken and due to the natural selection they had
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> JustLiel

5 months ago

i don't believe your history anything this world say's about history is the exact opposite, you people are the ultimate decievers so i believe nothing without finding out for myself, and the holocaust came after our slavery.. and we lost way more than you...hitler knew you was phonies 2...time magazine has a bunch of info on that.but, you still did not answer......what prophecies did you jew-ish people fulfill? you are better than GOD now, he said we would never see the land again and you just say f-that and move in? yeah you can edition.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo

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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

Jews has always been persecuted way before your slavery and after your slavery,ever heard about Alhambra decree the pogroms in Russia,pogroms in Arabs countries,Jews are persecuted all over the world,simply because the world is antisemitic,so even when the Jews had returned to their promised land and settled there for an asylum,you keep persecuting us and suddenly we see people like you who clearly denying and ignoring the truth,you can't even exhibit facts like I give you so how do you expect me to believe you? It's not about who lost more people,it's not a competition but excuse me for saying this but slavery is nothing next to burn someone in gas cells and ovens,he didn't say it,don't invent "facts",I read somewhere in Elijah version (Nosah Elijah) where it was written that this was the last exile for us Jews,I can put on the quote in Hebrew but you won't understand a thing,so yeah we were promised by god that it will be our last exile.
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> JustLiel

5 months ago

lol you dont even speak hebrew you speak yiddish, but that's neither here nor there, like i said show me what prophecies your people have fulfilled...you cant do it because you have fulfilled none...it's ok, think what you want but when the end comes we shall see who is the true jew. Shalom
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> Fiya_Burnz

5 months ago

And here you are again,filled with prejudice,lecturing me about what I do and what I don't,for your information I don't know Yiddish even just a bit, only my Polish grandmother knows it and I'm not even sure about it,again like you don't seem to understand most of the population of Israel are from Arab descent and the national language is Hebrew. There are many prophecies which came true and were fulfilled I will write one,it was written that after years of years that Jews will be wandering in the exile they will eventually return home,it happened and Israel is better than ever. You can keep writing my friend,I enjoy reading your laughable comments.
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> Fiya_Burnz

8 days ago

Like all other black-nazi-claiming-to-be-Jews, once you ran out of word you say these pathetic louzy sentences about how Jews "don't speak Hebrew" (ROFL LOL LMFAO - we invented this language b*tch XD) and end your angry good-for-nothing comments with "Shalom" like you even know what it means, racist-sad-clown...
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