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Dan Marcus

From: Lloyd Salvetti

Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 5:52 PM
To: Barbara Grewe; Philip Zelikow; Dan Marcus
Subject: RE: CIA IG Meeting

Philip and Dan:

Barbara has done a good job of summarizing where we are and where we would like to end up.
I would just add that while they are considering your requestsjhat we be authorized to useone
of their laptops for note taking or bring one of o^cwn^_AjgffiQjjaHy, everyone~would b6~weTI
served if they c[ould_sel~asicle space for 9-11 staffersjo r5MimCweJaaYe.lhejd5Ci!!Tiej]tsJiere
K Street. At present, IG secretaries scramble to provide us space which is frequently available
for a short period (e.g conference room)

Lloyd

Original Message
From: Barbara Grewe
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 5:46 PM
To: Philip Zelikow; Dan Marcus
Cc: Lloyd Salvetti
Subject: CIA IG Meeting

Philip and Dan:

In preparation for your meeting with Helgerson I thought it would be

helpful to know where we are now and possible ideas of where we want to
be.

Where we are now: We currently have access to the write-ups of the

interviews the CIA IG has conducted. Our access is limited to reading
them in the IG's offices but we are permitted to take any notes we want.
Tfrgy have also agreed to consider our request for take away copies of a
selectjewjkey write-urjS-_They have conducted over 250 interviews.
They have been reluctant to let us bring copies of the whole set here
because of their assurances to the witnesses that the interviews were
confidential. They feel, therefore, that allowing all of the memos to be
exported would be inconsistent with that.

As for their report, we have no specific agreement and when and how we
would have access. Nothing is yet in final form and Helgerson has not yet
read any of the drafts. (They have draft pieces on each of the factual
findings the Jl asked them to look at but apparently have not drafted the
accountability pieces.) Thexarejgluctant to let us see anything before
Helgerson has read and approve~dTh"e language.

You should know that we have had a cordial relationship with his Deputy
Lyn Eckdahl and she has been instrumental in getting the access we have

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obtained to date so I would not take a position criticizing her or how she
has handled to date. These are very touchy subjects for them.

Ideally, ^wewould have access to all of the interviews here and some level
of tHe drafisjjefore too lgng.JilLe.vjftdlLbjej]S.luc,tant to agree to thaTTtere
are some~suggested points that may influencejhgrrk

1 ) The Justice IG has given us access to all of its MOIs here in our offices.
We will also have some type of opportunity to review the Justice IG draft
prior to our hearing. The details of this review have not yet been worked
out. All of this is very unusual but I believe Glenn Fine agreed to this
because our statute specifically called for us to build on work already
done by executive branch agencies. The CIA IG should realize that
different circumstances call for different approaches. This is a unique
situation that would not create a precedent for other investigations.

2) I would emphasize the timing of our hearings in April on issues that have
been reviewed by the IG. It is to the IG's, our, and the public's benefit that
we have access to the IG's materials and conclusions before making
public pronouncements on facts and circumstances.

3) It might benefit their work to have discussions with us before they finalize
their conclusions. We obviously have a broader
bring insights they have not considered. For example, Lv.9/.11 closed by statu.te
and I had some interesting conversations regarding the meaning of
certain evidence. I believe we all benefited.

They are aware that we are going in wanting full access sooner rather
than later. Some ideas to think about as compromises. We could agree
that thejwriteups are merely on loan and that we promiseto return them_at
the eng of our work solriey do not become part of our aTcnives. i nis may
give them some level of comfort. Another concern of their§~is"whether we
intend to name low level employees. I think we should agree (consistent
with IG reports) not to publicly identify Idwjevel employees. If their drafts
are not yet ready for primetime viewing caTntieybTieTus^rT their
conclusions? For example, when the CIA IG was just starting I briefed
them on what the Justice IG had learned.

Lloyd may have some additional ideas to add to this. If you have any
questions, let me know.

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