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Some Commonly Quoted Fabricated Ahaadeeth

by Brother Abû Rumaysah

Prologue

A Compilation of Fabricated Ahadeeth, declaring their weaknesses and providing some light on
how some groups were mislead by following these ahadeeth.

Hadeeth 1 - '...I was a Hidden treasure...'

The hadeeth of the Messenger that he (SAW) said, "Allaah says, 'I was a hidden treasure, and I wished to be
known, so I created a creation (mankind), then made Myself known to them, and they recognised Me.'"

As-Sakhaawee (d.902, the student of ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee) said, "ibn Taymiyyah said, 'this is not from
the words of the Prophet (SAW), and there is no known isnaad for it be it saheeh or da'eef.' And az-Zarkashee and our
Shaykh (ibn Hajr) followed him (in this verdict)." ['al-Maqaasid al-Hasanah' of as-Sakhaawee (no. 838)]

As-Suyutee (d.911) said, "this has no basis (laa asla lahu)" ['Durural Muntathira' of as-Suyutee (no.330)]

al-Ijloonee (d.1162) said, "this saying occurs often in the words of the sufis, who have relied on it, and built some
of their principles on it." [ 'Kashf al-Khafaa' of al-Ijloonee (no.2016)]

al-Albaanee (contemporary) says, "this hadeeth has no basis" ['Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (1/166)]

Hadeeth 2 - '...were it not for you, I would not have created the Universe...'

The hadeeth, "Allaah says, 'were it not for you (O Muhammad) I would not have created the universe.'"

As-Saghaanee (d.650) said, "maudu (fabricated)" ['al-Ahaadeeth al-Mawdoo'aat' of as-Saghaanee

(pg. 7)] and likewise al-Albaanee ['Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (1/450 no.282)] ash-Shaykh Mulla Alee
Qaaree (d.1014) said, "maudu, but it's meaning is correct." ['al-Asraar al-Marfoo'ah' of Alee al-Qaaree
(pp 67-68)], and quotes two narrations to prove this:

The hadeeth related by ibn Asaakir, 'were it not for you, the world would not have been created'.
Ibn al-Jawzee (d.5**) related this and said, "maudu (fabricated)" ['al-Mawdoo'aat' of ibn
al-Jawzee (1/288)] and likewise as-Suyutee. ['al-Laa'ee' of as-Suyutee (1/272)]

The hadeeth related by ad-Dailamee, "O Muhammad! Were it not for you, the Garden would not
have been created, and were it not for you the Fire would not have been created." Al-Albaanee said,
"it is not correct to certify the correctness of it's meaning without establishing the authenticity of the narration
from ad-Dailamee, which is something I have not found any of the scholars to have addressed. Suffice to know
that ad-Dailamee is alone in reporting it, then I became certain of it's weakness, rather it's flimsiness when I
came across it in his 'Musnad' (1/41/2)." ['Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (1/451 no.282)]

Hadeeth 3 - '...I was a Prophet when there was no Adam and no clay...'

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The hadeeth related from the Messenger (SAW), "I was a Prophet while Adam was between clay and water" and
the hadeeth, "I was a prophet when there was no Adam and no clay"

ibn Taymiyyah said, "This has no basis. Neither from the point of view of transmission or intellect, for not a single
scholar of hadeeth mentions it and it's meaning is invalid. For Adam was never in a state in which he was between clay
and water, for clay consists of water and mud, rather he was in a state between the spirit and body.
Then these misguided people think that the Prophet (SAW) was physically present at that time, and that his person was
created before all persons, and they support this with ahaadeeth which are lies (against the Prophet), for example the
hadeeth that he used to be Light surrounding the Throne" ['Radd alaa al-Bakree' of ibn Taymiyyah (pg. 9)]

as-Suyutee said, "maudu" and endorsed the above words of ibn Taymiyyah. ['Dhail
al-Mawdoo'aat' of as-Suyutee (pg. 203)]And he also says about the second hadeeth mentioned
above, "this is something added by the general masses" [ 'ad-Durural Muntathiraa' (pg. 155 no. 331)]

az-Zarkashee (d.794) said, "as-Suyutee made clear that these two ahaadeeth have no basis, and that the second
was something added by the general masses. And ibn Taymiyyah preceded him in this, and ruled that the wordings
were rejected and that they were lies, and as-Sakhaawee endorsed this in his 'Fataawaa'" 'Sharh al-Muwaahib' of
az-Zarkaanee (1/33)]

as-Sakhaawee said, "as for what is common on the tongues,'I was a Prophet while Adam was between clay
and water '" then we have not found it with this wording not to speak of the addition, 'I was a Prophet when there
was no Adam and no clay.'" [ 'al-Maqaasid al-Hasanah' (pg. 386 no. 837)]

In the above words of ibn Taymiyyah, he refers to the following authentic hadeeth, "I was a prophet
while Adam was between the spirit and body" narrated by at-Haakim and others [See 'Silisilah
as-Saheehah' of al-Albaanee (no. 1756) for detailed documentation.]

But this hadeeth is explained by the narration of at-Tirmidhee in which the Prophet (SAW) was
asked, "when was the Prophethood made obligatory for you" to which he replied, "while Adam was between the spirit
and the body" [At-Tirmidhee chpt. 'The virtues of the Prophet (SAW)' (vol. 10 of the commentary of
al-Mubaarakfooree.)]
Meaning when Adam was is the state in which the soul was about to enter the body. [ 'Tuhfatul
Ahwadhee bi Sharh Jaami at-Tirmidhee' (vol. 10, chpt. 'The virtues of the Prophet (SAW)') of
al-Mubaarakfooree (d.1311)]
And by the hadeeth related in the Saheehs of al-Haakim and ibn Hibbaan, "I was written as a Prophet
in the presence of Allaah while Adam was intertwined in his clay."

As for the hadeeth, 'I was the first Prophet to be created and the last to be sent' narrated by Abu
Nu'aym in 'ad-Dalaa'il' (pg. 6) and others then this is weak (da'eef) as declared by al-Munaawee
and adh-Dhahabee (d.748) and al-Albaanee. ['Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (2/115 no.661) for detailed
documentation.]

Hadeeth 4 - '...the One who knows himself, knows his Lord...'

The hadeeth, "the One who knows himself, knows his Lord"

as-Sakhaawee said, "Abu al-Mudhaffar as-Sama'aanee said, 'this is not known as a hadeeth of the Messenger,
And likewise an-Nawawee said, 'it is not
rather it is only related as a saying of Yahya bin Mu'aadh ar-Raazee.'
established'" ['al-Maqaasid al-Hasanah' (pg. 491 no.1149)] as-Suyutee said, "this hadeeth is not
authentic" [ 'Haawee lil Fataawee' (2/351)]

Alee al-Qaaree quoted from ibn Taymiyyah saying, "fabricated" ['al-Asraar al-Marfoo'ah' (pg. 83)]

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al-Allaamaa Fairozabaadee said, "this is not from the Prophetic ahaadeeth, despite the fact that the majority of
people make it so, and it is not authentic at all. It is only related from the Jewish traditions as 'O mankind! Know
yourself and you will know your Lord'" ['ar-Radd alaa al-Mu'tarideen' (2/37)]

al-Albaanee says, "it has no basis" ['Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (1/165 no.66)]

Hadeeth 5 - '...the heart of my believeing servant can contain Me...'

The hadeeth, "Allaah says, 'neither My Heaven or My earth can contain Me, but the heart of My believing servant
can contain Me.'"

Al-Ghazaalee mentioned this in his 'Ihyaa Ulum ad-Deen' with the wording, "Neither My Heaven nor My
earth can contain Me, but the soft humble heart of my believing servant can contain Me".
Al-Haafidh al-Iraaqee (the Shaykh of ibn Hajr) said in his notes to 'al-Ihyaa', "I find no basis for it."
And as-Suyutee agreed with him, following az-Zarkashee.

Al-Iraaqee then said, "but in the hadeeth of Abu Utbah in at-Tabaraanee there occurs, 'the vessels of your Lord
are the hearts of the righteous servants, and the most beloved to Him are the softest and most tender ones'"

ibn Taymiyyah said, "it (the original hadeeth) is mentioned in the Israelite traditions, but there is no known isnaad
from the Prophet (SAW) for it."

as-Sakhaawee said, agreeing with as-Suyutee, "there is no known isnaad from the Prophet (SAW), and it's
meaning is that his heart can contain belief in Me, love of Me and gnosis of Me. But as for the one who says that Allaah
incarnates in the hearts of the people, then he is more of an infidel than the Christians who specified that to Christ
alone."

Az-Zarkashee said that one of the scholars said that it is a false hadeeth, fabricated by a
renegade from the religion. He also said that at-Tabaraanee has related from Abu Utbah
al-Khawlaanee from the Prophet (SAW) that, "Truly, Allaah has vessels from amongst the people of the
earth, and the vessels of your Lord are the hearts of his righteous slaves, and the Most beloved of them to
Him are the softest and most tender ones" [ 'Kash al-Khafaa' (no.2256)]

al-Albaanee declared the last mentioned hadeeth to be hasan (good) ['Silsilah as-Saheehah'
(no.1691)]

Hadeeth 6 - '...love of ones homeland is part of faith...'

The hadeeth, "love of ones homeland is part of faith"

as-Saghaanee declared it to be maudu (fabricated) [ 'al-Mawdoo'aat' (pg. 7)]

as-Sakhaawee said,"I have not found it" [ 'Maqaasid al-Hasanah' (pg. 218 no. 386)]

al-Albaanee declares it to be fabricated.['Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (1/110 no.36)]

The scholars have discussed it's meaning and differed to what extent the meaning is correct if at
all, see the discussions in the above three references for detail.

Hadeeth 7 - '...Seek knowledge even if it be to China...'

The hadeeth, "Seek knowledge even if it be to China"

Related by ibn Adee (2/207)m Abu Nu'aym in 'Akhbaar Asbahaan' and others via many routes of

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narration, and all of them adding the words "for indeed seeking knowledge is an obligatory duty upon all
Muslims."
Ibn al-Jawzee mentions this and then quotes ibn Hibbaan saying, "invalid/rejected, it has no basis"
'al-Mawdoo'aat' (1/215)]

adh-Dhahabee also endorsed the above words of ibn Hibbaan, ['Tarteeb al-Mawdoo'aat' of
adh-Dhahabee (pg. 52 no. 111)] and likewise as-Sakhaawee ['Maqaasid al-Hasanah' (pg. 86 no.
125)]

al-Albaanee declares this hadeeth to be maudu (fabricated) ['Da'eef al-Jaami as-Sagheer' (no's
1005-1006)]

In summary, the above hadeeth is related by a group of trustworthy narrators without the words
"even if it be to China" and a few narrators who are deemed weak/liars/abandoned by the scholars
narrate this additional wording. So the hadeeth with the additional wording is fabricated, but
without is hasan (good). [See 'Silsilah ad-Da'eefah' (1/600 no. 416) for detail.]

Hadeeth 8 - '...returned from the Lesser Jihaad, to the Greater Jihaad...'

The hadeeth, "We have returned from the Lesser Jihaad, to the Greater Jihaad (i.e. the Jihaad against oneself)"

Related by al-Bayhaqi with a da'eef isnaad according to al-Iraaqee. Ibn Hajr said that this was a
saying of Ibraaheem bin Abee Ablah, a Taabi'ee, and not a hadeeth of the Messenger (SAW).
['Kashf al-Khafaa' (no.1362)]

Hadeeth 9 - '...Abdaal (Substitutes)...'

The ahaadeeth on the Abdaal (The Substitutes)

as-Sakhaawee said, "it has a number of different routes from Anas (RA) from the Prophet (SAW), with
contradictory wording, all of which are da'eef."

a. the hadeeth related by al-Khalaal in 'Karaamaat al-Awliyaa', "the Abdaal are forty men and forty
women, each time a man dies Allaah substitutes another in his place, and each time a woman dies Allaah substitutes
another in her place"

b. the hadeeth related by at-Tabaraanee, "there will always be on the earth forty people like al-Khaleel
(Ibraaheem), alayhis salaam, and by them the people will given to drink (or have rain come down), and by them the
people will be aided, not a single one of them dies except that Allaah substitutes another in his place."

c. the hadeeth related by ibn Adee in 'Kaamil', "the Abdaal are forty, 22 from Shaam, and 18 from Iraaq, each
time one of them dies Allaah substitutes another in his place. And when the Command comes then all of them will be
taken (qubidoo) and at that time the Hour will be established."

d. the hadeeth related by Ahmad, al-Khallaal and others from Ubaadah bin Saamit (RA) from the
Messenger (SAW), "There will always be thirty people in this Ummah like Ibraaheem, each time one of them dies
Allaah substitutes another in his place."

e. at-Tabaraanee has the wording, "and by them the earth will be established, and by them it will rain, and by
them they will be aided."

f. the hadeeth of Abu Nu'aym in 'al-Hilya' from ibn Umar from the Messenger (SAW), "the chosen
ones of this nation are 500, and the abdaal are 40 in every generation, and neither the 500 or the 40 will decrease, each
time one of them dies Allaah substitutes another in his place." The Companions said, "tell us of their actions" He said,
"they forgive those that do dhulm to them, and they behave well with those that behave badly to them"

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g. al-Khallaal has the wording, "There will always be forty people by whom the earth is preserved, each time one
of them dies Allaah substitutes another in his place."

h. the hadeeth in al-Hilya from ibn Mas'ud (RA), "there will always be 40 people from my Ummah whose
hearts are like the heart of Ibraaheem, Allaah will drive away (evil from?) the people of the earth by them, they will be
called the Abdaal. Indeed they will not attain it (the position of Abdaal) by (a great deal of) prayer or fasting or giving in
charity." So they asked, "so how will they attain it O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "through generosity, and by
advising the Muslims."

i. The hadeeth reported by at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Ajwaad' from Anas (RA) from the Messenger
(SAW), "indeed the Abdaal of this ummah will not enter Paradise due to (a great deal) of prayer or fasting, but they
will enter due to generosity and secure hearts and advising the Muslims."

j. and the similar hadeeth of al-Kharaa'itee in 'al-Makaarim' related by Abu Sa'eed

After mentioning these as-Sakhaawee goes on to say, "and some of them are more severely weak than
others."['Maqaasid al-Hasanah' (pp 26-28 no.8)]

There are other hadeeth as-Sakhaawee mentions after this but fails to give a clear verdict on
them, some of these will be discussed below.

al-Albaanee talking about hadeeth f) above says, Maudu (fabricated) related by Abu Nu'aym in
'al-Hilya' (1/8) from the route of at-Tabaraanee. And from him by ibn al-Jawzee in 'al-Mawdoo'aat'
(3/151 his book on fabricated hadeeth).[biographical detail on narrators omitted]

Adh-Dhahabee said in 'al-Meezaan' , 'it is not known, and the story to do with the manners of the
Abdaal is a lie' talking about this hadeeth. And ibn Hajr endorsed this in 'al-Lisaan'." ['Silsilah
ad-Da'eefah' (2/339 no.935)]

As-Suyuti incorporated this hadeeth in his 'Jaami as-Sagheer' and declared it hasan. But
al-Munaawee followed this up by pointing out the defects of the hadeeth, then after quoting the
aforementioned words of adh-Dhahabee he said, "and ibn al-Jawzee ruled it to be fabricated, and the author
(as-Suyutee) agreed with him in 'Mukhtasar al-Mawdoo'aat' and he endorsed ibn al-Jawzee's verdict and did not follow it
up."

Al-Albaanee concludes his discussion on the hadeeth by saying, "and know that there is no
hadeeth to do with the Abdaal which is authentic, all of them are defective, and some of them are
more severely weak than others. And I will mention a few of them for you, and unveil their defect,
if Allaah the Exalted and Blessed Wills."[Ibid]

He then discusses hadeeth d) and e) above and declares them to be munkar (rejected). [Silsilah
ad-Da'eefah (2/339+ no.936) for a detailed discussion.]

Al-Haafidh ibn al-Qayyim states in 'al-Manaar az-Muneef', "the ahaadeeth concerning the Abdaal, Aqtaab,
Nuqabaa, Agwaath, Najabaa and Awtaad are all false (baatil)"

Imaam Ahmad follows up hadeeth d) up by saying, "it is a munkar hadeeth".

As for this same hadeeth al-Haythamee said, "reported by Ahmad, and it's narrators are that of the saheeh
except for Waahid bin Qais who has been declared thiqah by al-Ijlee and Abu Zur'ah but weak by other than these two"
(Mujma 10/62)

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Waahid bin Qais has been declared to be da'eef by a group of scholars amongst them ibn Ma'een
(in one of two reports from him), Abu Haatim, and Saalih bin Muhammad al-Baghdaadee.
Adh-Dhahabee points out that Waahid bin Qais only met some taabi'een so according to this the
isnaad is also munqati as he reports directly from the Companion Ubaadah bin Saamit. As for
hadeeth e) then ibn Hajr al-Haythamee declared this da'eef in his 'Mujma az-Zawaa'id' (10/63)
due to it's isnaad containing two unknown narrators.

Al-Albaanee then discusses another hadeeth not mentioned above to do with the Abdaal related
from Shahr bin Hawshab from Awf bin Maalik (RA) and declares it to be severely weak, and
likewise he declares a hadeeth related from Alee to be da'eef.

Adh-Dhahabee quotes hadeeth, d) and one similar to e) and others and concludes by saying, "by
Allaah there is no one in the Ummah of Muhammad like Abu Bakr, and the distance between him and Ibraaheem in
excellence cannot be measured. But this is from the fabrication of Abdurrahmaan bin Marzooq at-Tarsoosee may Allaah
not give him victory." Then he endorses ibn al-Jawzees verdict on hadeeth c) that it is fabricated.
[Tarteeb al-Mawdoo'aat (pg.272 no.'s 974-977)

Hadeeth 10 - '...Disagreement will occur at the death of a Khaleef...'

The hadeeth of Abu Dawood [Eng. Trans no.4273] from Umm Salamah that the Prophet (SAW) said,
"disagreement will occur at the death of a Khaleef and a man of the people of Madeenah will come forth flying to
Mecca. Some of the people of Mecca will come to him, bring him out against his will and swear allegiance to him
between the corner and the maqaam. An expeditionary force will then be sent against them from Syria but will
be swallowed up by the desert between Mecca and Madeenah, and when the people see that, the Abdaal of Syria
and the best people of Iraaq will come to him and swear allegiance to him between the corner and the Maqaam."

Al-Albaanee says in 'ad-Da'eefah' (no. 1965), "Da'eef." Reported by Ahmad (6/316), Abu Dawood
(4286), and via their route ibn Asaakir (1/280) from the route of Hishaam from Qataadah from Abu
Khaleel from a companion of his from Umm Salamah from the Messenger (SAW).

I say: it's narrators are all thiqah except for the companion of Abu Khaleel for he is not named and
is therefore majhool.

Then Abu Dawood and at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' (9613) report it via the route of Abu al-Awaam
from Qataadah from Abu Khaleel from Abdullaah bin al-Haarith from Umm Salamah from the
Prophet (SAW).

At-Tabaraanee said, "no one reports this hadeeth from Qataadah except Imraan.
I say: the majhool narrator has been named as Abdullaah bin Haarith, and he is ibn Nawfal
al-Madanee and he is thiqah being depended upon in the Two Saheehs. But in the route to him is
Abu al-Awaam who is Imraan bin Dawood al-Qattaan and he has some weakness arising due to
his memory.

Al-Bukhaaree said, "truthful but makes mistakes."

Ad-Daaruqutnee said, "he used to commonly be inconsistent and make mistakes."

And al-Haafidh depended upon this saying of Bukhaaree in his 'Taqreeb' Therefore his adding a
thiqah narrator (in the isnaad) is something that the soul does not find tranquillity in.

Al-Haakim also reports this hadeeth via him (4/431) with the wording, "a man from my nation shall be
sworn allegiance to between the Corner and the Station by a number of people like the number of the people of Badr,
then the best of the people of Iraaq shall come to him and the Abdaal of Shaam. Then a expedition from Shaam will set

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out against him…."

Al-Haakim did not give it a ruling but adh-Dhahabee said, "Abu al-Awaam Imraan has been declared da'eef
by more than one, and he was a Khaarijee."

Then I saw the hadeeth in 'Mawaarid al-Dham'aan' (1881) via the route of Abu Ya'la (4/1651) from
Muhammad bin Yazeed bin Rifaa'a from Wahb bin Jareer from Hishaam bin Abu Abdullaah from
Qataadah from Saalih Abu Khaleel from Mujaahid from Umm Salamah.

The narrators of this isnaad are the narrators of the Two Saheehs except for ibn Rifaa'a, and he is
Abu Hishaam ar-Rifaa'ee and he is da'eef. And he additionally mentioned Mujaahid in his isnaad
but his addition is not counted. Then I found a follow-up to this hadeeth reported by
at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' (1164) via the route of Ubaidullaah bin Umru from Mu'mar from
Qataadah from Mujaahid and at-Tabraanee said, "Ubaidullaah bin Umru said: Then I narrated it to Layth and
he said Mujaahid reported this to me."

At-Tabaraanee said, "this hadeeth has not been reported from Mu'mar except by Ubaidullaah."
I say: and he is thiqah like the rest of the narrators of this isnaad. But they have differed about it's
isnaad to Qataadah in 4 ways:

1. Qataadah from Abu Khaleel from a companion of his from Umm Salamah. This is the report
of Hishaam ad-Dastawaa'ee from him.
2. The same except the companion of his has been named as Abdullaah bin al-Haarith

3. The same except that the companion of his has been named as Mujaahid

4. The same except that Abu al-Khaleel has been omitted between Qataadah and Mujaahid.

This is a severe difference which necessitates investigation and declaring which is the strongest
isnaad. It is obvious that the first three options deserve credence due to their agreeing that
between Qataadah and Umm Salamah there are two narrators whereas the fourth option
mentions only one. So upon considering this the fourth option is to be left due to its opposing the
group.
Then we carefully studied the remaining three options. It is totally clear that the third option is to
be left due to the weakness of ibn Rifaa'ah. Close to this is the second option due to the poor
memory of Imraan as has preceded. Therefore the first option remains, and this is the weightiest
out of the four. And when this (first isnaad) revolves around the companion of Abu Khaleel who is
unnamed in a route that otherwise would be free of defect then he is the defect. And Allaah
knows best.

The hadeeth has a number of other routes from Umm Salamah and other than her summarised,
not containing mention of the story of the pledge of allegiance and the Abdaal and it is
investigated in 'as-Saheehah' (no.1924).
[NB it should be noted that the term 'Abdaal' was a term known amongst the salaf and other early scholars as mentioned by as-Sakhaawee in 'Maqaasid'. Ibn
Taymiyyah in 'al-wasatiyyah' and al-Albaanee. What is differed about is what it refers to - the strongest opinion is that it refers to the Ahlul Hadeeth as mentioned by a
number of early scholars amongst them Khateeb al-Baghdaadee in his 'Sharf Ashaabul Hadeeth.]

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