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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

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What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@apf102

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@AcademicsUK

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@MissCranky @littlestobbsy @SENConsultancy @ICTmagic @ICTmagic @SENConsultancy @ukedchat @JennTesoro @littlestobbsy @ICTmagic

Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @ICTmagic What can the UK education system learn from other Id like to start by exploring where UKedchatter have taught outside of the UK & compare the many systems within the UK. #UKedchat History trainees/NQTs - if u read 1 book this summer try "Remembering Ahanagran" Brilliant! http://www.andallthat.co.uk/6/post/2013/07/book-reviewstanford-prof-richard-white-remembering-ahanagran-afascinating-read-historyteacher-tweko.html #UKedchat #historyteacher When in doubt, remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. Intelligence plus character, that is the goal of true #education #ukedchat I taught in China for many years, trained in Wales and now teach in England. Each edu system is different. Your experience? #UKedchat History trainees/NQTs - more great reading for the purpose of history teaching http://andallthatweb.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/historicalthinking-and-other-unnatural-acts-how-should-we-studyhistory-and-can-we-ever-understand-the-past/ #UKedchat #historyteacher @ICTmagic I hate the external exams. Am looking forward to more autonomy when I go back home. Only taught in England but it has changed a massive amount in 18 years #UKedchat #ukedchat Start school at age 6 and sumner children at 7. Ready to learn Education priorities change so much as you cross borders. Are the goals the same in every country? #ukedchat @MissCranky Interesting. I know relativity little about the Australian system. What are the Pros/Cons beyond exams? #ukedchat #ukedchat taught in 2 other countries. No exams until 18. Less pressure. Far better Tonight's #ukedchat topic again What can the UK education system learn from other countries? @ICTmagic as educators, our goals should be universal, regardless of passport or time zone: student learning #ukedchat #UKedchat the focus on results is now the main factor from above. @JennTesoro Indeed. Do you feel students are given enough experience of worldliness from the classroom? When should this begin? #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic


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What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@JennTesoro

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@RachelOrr @littlestobbsy @ICTmagic

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@Super_Work @ICTmagic @MsFindlater

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@RachelOrr

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@MsFindlater @weeweegie @JennTesoro

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@Miss_J_Hart @ICTmagic @MsFindlater

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@MsFindlater @ICTmagic

I've only taught in the uk but despite the regular changes it seems league tables are ever present. Is this worldwide? #UKedchat Check out: Tonight's #ukedchat topic on now! What can the UK education system learn from other countries? #IntEdchat #cdnedchat We are teaching children for jobs that have not been created yet! We need an ever changing curriculum and not magpied. #ukedchat #UKedchat not enough experience of the real world or real world applications of their subject @MsFindlater @MissCranky Where is the pressure coming from in the UK (and therefore not coming from in Australia)? #ukedchat Barely two weeks into the summer holidays and #ukedchat is on?? You've got to be shitting me!! It's worse than those 'Back To School' signs. @littlestobbsy How can this be done effectivity? The 'work experience' model? #ukedchat 18 Things To Know About Education In Canada http://www.edudemic.com/2013/06/18-things-to-know-abouteducation-in-canada/ #UKedchat MORR flexibility in other countries. We try to standardise too much and one size does not fit all! #ukedchat pic.twitter.com/nvyuCYTPIv 18 Things To Know About Education In Japan http://www.edudemic.com/2013/07/18-things-to-know-abouteducation-in-japan/ #UKedchat Is 14week courses, 9am-5pm, too long to maintain attention and retention of 16-25 yr olds? #UKedchat @ICTmagic global citizenship should b explored immediately: our initial experiences begin in childhood - it is an untainted lens #ukedchat There is such a huge difference in the way education is perceived by society in countries- surely presents different pressures? #UKedchat Are education systems moving towards the same direction? #MoreAssessment #Standardisation #ukedchat 18 Things To Know About Education In Brazil http://www.edudemic.com/2013/06/18-things-to-know-abouteducation-in-brazil-2/ #UKedchat 18 Things To Know About Education In Greece http://www.edudemic.com/2013/06/education-in-greece/ #UKedchat @JennTesoro How can that be achieved by educators who are based in a particular country? #ukedchat
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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic


08:20:47 08:21:18 08:21:47 08:22:29 08:23:42 08:23:47 08:25:47 @RachelOrr @Super_Work @ICTmagic @MsFindlater @RachelOrr @ICTmagic @faulknergav

What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@RachelOrr

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@ICTmagic @ICTmagic @JennTesoro

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@MsFindlater @littlestobbsy @Ezzy_Moon

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@RachelOrr @littlestobbsy @ICTmagic

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@Ezzy_Moon @ukedchat

We try to control, compartmentalise and straight jacket a curriculum. Let's have Wednesday afternoons for sports and work 8-1pm! #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon I agree! I wouldn't put #ukedchat and 'fun' in the same sentence, though. @RachelOrr I believe that is the French way of doing things. Wednesday afternoons off for extra curricular adventures. #ukedchat @RachelOrr #UKedchat really interesting point. I love a good magpie but you are right. @StuartMaginnis Real focused project based learning. #UKedchat If Finland/Singapore etc have the dream education system, why not import it wholesale? #ukedchat #UKedchat Has anyone ever questioned Pupil Premium students regarding their barriers to learning? Did you get any positive results? @littlestobbsy: @ICTmagic @RachelOrr off timetable activities can be invaluable to give variety and life experience #UKedchat @littlestobbsy @RachelOrr Indeed. But shouldn't they be on the timetable in that case. Exploratory time to pursue interests. #ukedchat @raff31 Pray they don't have one! #ukedchat @ICTmagic alas, the beauty of tech in classrooms :) - online convos with buddy classrooms, 'mystery skyping', sister schools... #ukedchat Why Do We Focus On Finland? A Must-Have Guidebook http://www.edudemic.com/2012/08/why-do-we-focus-onfinland-a-must-have-guidebook/ #ukedchat #ukedchat @ICTmagic in a word politicians! @ICTmagic in coaching we're told just because someone else does something well, it won't work 4 us unless we know why it's good #UKedchat @ICTmagic One size does not fit all. We need autonomy and creativity and above all freedom. #UKedchat pic.twitter.com/jplU3Y8ZDz @ICTmagic @RachelOrr #ukedchat colleges often do but I gave seen it done badly and therefore a waste of learning time @JennTesoro International collaborations are a fab way to improve international understanding/world view. Your top tips to foster? #ukedchat @ICTmagic @littlestobbsy @RachelOrr my most recent school did 'activity afternoon' last session on Fridays. Worked really well #ukedchat Do you know that there's a #UKedchat everyday (except
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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@ICTmagic @Ezzy_Moon @littlestobbsy @ICTmagic @RachelOrr

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@passionateaboot

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@LouisMMCoiffait @chrismcd53 @Ezzy_Moon @RachelOrr @raff31

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@Ezzy_Moon @RachelOrr @ICTmagic @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic @JennTesoro

Sundays)? Subscribe to the bulletin to stay up to date. http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe? u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39 Pls RT @Ezzy_Moon How was this structured? Was it teacher or pupil lead? A combination? #ukedchat @ICTmagic @JennTesoro Culture Chat! (http://www.kdhculturechat.blogspot.com ) As much of a reallife network as possible #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic @RachelOrr like the Friday afternoon idea as I usually have a GCSE class then #ukedchat Is there a country that you have always wanted to teach in? Why? #ukedchat We need the equivalent of a sandwich course in our weekly curriculum so that skills are taught & applied in real loving contexts. #UKedchat Primary PE Co-ordinators - National Professional Qualification for Middle Leaders http://www.newcastleschoolsport.com/events/pe-co-ordinatorsnational-professional-qualification-for-middle-l #UKedchat #cpchat Education infographics @Pinterest board - please share and add your own http://ow.ly/nrVg3 @PearsonThinkTk #UKEdChat #EdChat #neo Anybody part of Liverpool CAS - would love to hear from you! #ukedchat please retweet. @littlestobbsy @ICTmagic @RachelOrr I'm primary. It was a lovely way to end the week and chn took part in lots of ex curric opp's #ukedchat Many schools operate a 'golden time' slot using and applying transferable skills in real contexts. #UKedchat @ICTmagic Maybe there's thousands of little Goves in Helsinki Square bumping into each other shouting, "rigour, rigour" #ukedchat @ICTmagic The activities run by tchrs but chn chose what they wanted 2do in sessions. Tchrs chose what they could offer though #ukedchat Students = invite, include, involve, inspire, innovate and invent = true learning at the heart! #UKedchat @davidpgriffiths It is! But why so for you, sir? #ukedchat @ICTmagic @littlestobbsy @RachelOrr Chn did not do any SAT's stuff during activity time as it would be unfair on them to miss out #ukedchat @lornajpage Why was it an enjoyable place to teach? #ukedchat @ICTmagic agreed: int'l-mindedness is essential. Tip... 1. Just do it - pick a country, school or educator & send a message
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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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#ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic @littlestobbsy It can depend on @RachelOrr position of a school and who is on its back! #UKedchat Read @alfredtwo explaining why curriculum doesn't need to change all that @AlexHughesPHS quickly....http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/archive/2011/01/12/ why-experience-matters.aspx #UKedchat @Ezzy_Moon @ictmagic brilliant - Any examples for @JennTesoro secondary school collaboration? #ukedchat @RachelOrr @ICTmagic Totally! It's a shame curric is @Ezzy_Moon dominated by that really. Benefits of that 1 session were huge 4 some #UKedchat @JennTesoro How does Turkish compare to the Canadian @ICTmagic system? (read from your profile) #ukedchat Focus On Finland?http://www.edudemic.com/2012/08/why-dowe-focus-on-finland-a-must-have-guidebook/ via @BeverleySymonds @edudemic #ukedchat Wales foundation phase has principles but is dampened by govt policy @JennTesoro no but it's something that could be set up if you @Ezzy_Moon and at least 1 other school were interested #ukedchat @BeverleySymonds In what way is it dampened? I trained in @ICTmagic Wales, but never taught in foundation there. #ukedchat When the new EYFS curric came out the proposed curric @RachelOrr followed it in a similar vein and had a lot of strengths and then election. #UKedchat @ICTmagic @rachelorr I think something like the google 20% @SheliBB time would work well for staff and children - keep interest high #ukedchat Which elements of the UK systems (of which there are many) @ICTmagic do you think are examples to be held up to the world? #ukedchat @ICTmagic night/day, really - fortunately, we use UK and IB @JennTesoro curricula at our school - but national sys here is exam-geared 4 sure #ukedchat @RachelOrr @ICTmagic how would that look in action? @chemtabulous #ukedchat @SheliBB We did that discussion http://ukedchat.com/2012/11/15/session-124-could-googles@ICTmagic 20-projectself-directed-time-work-in-schools-and-how-couldwe-support-it/ - As I remember, not many tweeps liked the idea! #Madness #ukedchat Some parts of this can still be used in developing a curriculum with transferable skills. @RachelOrr https://orderline.education.gov.uk/gempdf/184962383X.PDF #UKedchat @RachelOrr @chemtabulous @ICTmagic Schools using transferable skills
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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@RachelOrr @Ezzy_Moon @RachelOrr @ICTmagic @ICTmagic @littlestobbsy

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@SheliBB

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@MsFindlater

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@MsFindlater

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@secretnqt

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@ICTmagic

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@JennTesoro

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@natkin

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@edssential

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@Ezzy_Moon

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@ICTmagic @edssential

and writing schemes of work with staff, children and industries. #UKedchat @chemtabulous @ICTmagic #ukedchat I had to write schemes of work and peel back the layers of learning. @ICTmagic I don't think so as chn raised on stereotypes and unquestioning! #UKedchat Integrated project based learning without focus on content. Lit, num and ICT taught in everything and embedded. #UKedchat Is the UK education system fit the meet the needs of 21st century on the world stage? Why (not)? #ukedchat @lornajpage Yeap... that'll do it alright! :) #ukedchat @ICTmagic #UKedchat I think we are always playing catch up now that technology is such an integral part of the 21st century world @ICTmagic ooh! Missed that one! Will have to have a read of it #ukedchat I've been in French and German schools btw. I prefer ours! 18 Things To Know About Education In Chile http://www.edudemic.com/2013/06/18-things-to-know-abouteducation-in-chile/ #UKedchat 18 Things To Know About Education In Yemen http://www.edudemic.com/2013/06/18-things-to-know-abouteducation-in-yemen/ #UKedchat I'm no Tory but I think I'd agree with this article: http://bit.ly/1eemDVE (left-wing A level biased) #UKedchat #edchat What do you think? @littlestobbsy Is that the same across the world or is the UK particularly poor at integrating tech into schs in a meaningful way? #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon I like you're style :) If you hear of interest, pls feel free 2 send our way - I'll send your idea out 2 our teachers #ukedchat Best Matchbox Coin expt EVER http://wp.me/p386SF-3v Free drinks! #3actphysics #ukedchat #asechat #scichat #edchat @ddmeyer @TeacherToolkit Essential article from @mrlockyer Marking is broken http://edssential.co.uk/2013/06/15/marking-is-broken/ #ukedchat #edchat @littlestobbsy @ICTmagic depends where you are in the world though - could our chn cope if there was a 1 week powercut? #ukedchat @MsFindlater I was surprised too. Letting go of the reins seemed to worry lots of tweeps during the discussion. @SheliBB #ukedchat Essential article from @headguruteacher Great lessons 4: Differentiation http://edssential.co.uk/2013/06/15/great6 of 8

ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@Ezzy_Moon

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@littlestobbsy

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@ICTmagic

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@Ezzy_Moon

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@ICTmagic @littlestobbsy @BehaviourTeach @MsFindlater @ICTmagic

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@Ezzy_Moon

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@ICTmagic

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@Ezzy_Moon

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@JennTesoro @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic

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@littlestobbsy @Ezzy_Moon

lessons-4-differentiation/ #ukedchat #edchat @JennTesoro Media perpetuates a lot of ill-feeling.. talking directly + openly with each other is a way to dissipate that imho #ukedchat =) @ICTmagic I don't know about other countries but IWB @ laptops are my experience & rarely able to be used in a meaningful way #UKedchat @davidpgriffiths I taught in China for over three years and that echoed what you are saying. Never been to Malaysia. #MustVisit #ukedchat @ICTmagic @davidpgriffiths I taught in Nepal; frequent power cuts. I had blackboard, 4 chalk colours, no printer, limited paper! #ukedchat @MsFindlater I used to do something similar in my sch & never known a buzz in the class like it. #HighlyRecommended @SheliBB #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic doubtful they could even cope for one day. Another very important thing to consider! #UKedchat Another haul from #poundland! #poundlandpedagogy #UKedchat pic.twitter.com/z1T400oOMK @ICTmagic @SheliBB I am looking into this and how it can work in the classroom. Still mulling it over. #UKedchat @Ezzy_Moon I had a similar setup when I travelled & taught in the west of China. #BackToBasics East coast is so developed. #ukedchat @littlestobbsy Traditional life/methods still strong in some countries. In Nepal, rote learning huge! They learned quickly tho #ukedchat @MsFindlater Important to remember that kids often are self motivated in hobbies outside of sch. Give 'em space to explore. #ukedchat @ICTmagic It made me think more about the activities I did and why though, which I didn't do as much in UK til then #ukedchat @ICTmagic strengths: UK's approach to some PSHE programmes, English language and literature standards (and great weather) #ukedchat @ICTmagic Does the whole of China follow the same system or governing body? #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon I think teaching in such a situation hones the skills to really concentrate on what's important. But I like a IWB too! #ukedchat Our head went to china, said the classes were bigger & lots of peer obs between staff but less teaching time, sounded interesting #UKedchat @ICTmagic Agree! I like IWB too, but not the expectation that
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ukedchat Archive 1st August 2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

What can the UK education system learn from other countries?

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@ICTmagic

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@JennTesoro @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic

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@ukedchat @ICTmagic @Ezzy_Moon @ICTmagic @Ezzy_Moon @JennTesoro

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@Ezzy_Moon

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@ICTmagic @Ezzy_Moon @ukedchat

tech is used in every lesson. I want to use it if it adds value! #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon Not any more. Lots of private providers doing different things. Some good & not so good. State system also diverse now. #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon yes, agreed! as educators, we can make sure that convos break down those barriers for sure - slowly but surely #ukedchat @ICTmagic Sounds like the way the UK is heading! #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon I agree. Adding value is important, but there are few learning opportunities which are not enhanced by tech. #ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? Why not write your thoughts on our forum at http://ukedchat.com/forum2/ukedchat-topics/what-can-the-uk-education-system-learnfrom-other-countries/ ? @Ezzy_Moon I'm @ICTmagic remember. :) #ukedchat @ICTmagic I think a diverse curriculum is something to be proud of (at present!) UK still dedicates time to art, music etc..#ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon Yes, the privatisation of education is well on the way in both. :( #ukedchat @ICTmagic enhanced by tech or replaced by tech because it's there to use? #devilsadvocate #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon @ictmagic @davidpgriffiths hm.. perhaps teachers can be encouraged 2 bring own 'communication' resources... postcards? #ukedchat @JennTesoro @ICTmagic @davidpgriffiths Could, and use children and themselves as resources more too. I found it a lot of fun! #ukedchat @Ezzy_Moon Not at all. My school is fairly light on tech. Which is way I've had to be (sort of) clever in how I use it. #ukedchat @ICTmagic More people should use it like you do =) Know about it, use if needed, but not rely #ukedchat It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @ICTmagic for hosting tonights #ukedchat. The archive will be at http://ukedchat.com/2013/08/01/session-162/ soon.

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