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sinnaduraiUnfollow Follow sinnadurai sinnadurai sripadmanaban it depends on type of cooling tower,ambient temperature etc 10 days ago Unlike Like
Nicholas Schroeder Marley/SPX has a fundamentals book. Get a copy. Evaporation varies w/ the weather, Trane has a free interactive psych chart on their web site. Blow down is function of makeup water quality. 10 days ago Unlike Like
StevenUnfollow Follow Steven Steven Wombwell where are you putting the power plant (geographically) 9 days ago Unlike Like
BradUnfollow Follow Brad Brad Buecker In addition to Nicholas' comments above, the Cooling Technology Institute is a great resource for cooling tower information. Their web site is www.cti.org. Their next annual conference will be this February in Houston, Texas, USA. My colleagues and I have been performing cooling tower calculations regularly over the last few years for the many combinedcycle proposals that my company continues to receive. We have a top-rate heat balance group that provides the data for planned operating conditions (in any geographical location), from which we calculate water balances including those of cooling tower evaporation, drift, and blowdown. A new twist is the development of hybrid cooling towers, where some cooling is achieved on a dry basis followed by wet cooling. This process reduces water loss from evaporation and blowdown. Brad Buecker
RAJUUnfollow Follow RAJU RAJU PAKIRISAMY ONE TSTEAM CONDENSING 50 TON OF COLD WATER FOR 60 MW POWER PLANT IPP WE NEED 400 MTS OF WATER PER HOUR P.RAJU HEAD POWER PLANT 9 days ago Unlike Like
SumitUnfollow Follow Sumit Sumit Agrawal Hi Brad, Could you please give me some information about Hybrid cooling towers? We have quite a lot of projects in pulp, paper and power industries. We are looking some solution to minimise water loss due to evaporation and blowdown. You can email me at sumit7982@gmail.com. Thanks 7 days ago Unlike Like
BradUnfollow Follow Brad Brad Buecker Dear Sumit, When I return to work this week, I will send you some information I have. In fact, just last week I worked on water balance calculations for a power plant in which water usage of a conventional cooling tower at several conditions was compared to water usage in a hybrid tower. At some conditions, the savings are relatively slight, but at others they are dramatic. My direct experience has been with conventional cooling towers, but the development of hybrid cooling towers and air-cooled condensers is very interesting and my colleagues and I are becoming more and more involved with these technologies, in part because my company also constructs cooling towers. If you haven't considered it, think about attending the International Water Conference this November in Orlando, Florida, USA. Excellent cooling water presentations are available every year. I will be speaking this year, but my topic is steam generation chemistry. Then, in February 2014, is the Cooling Technology Institute's annual winter meeting, this time to be held in Houston, Texas, USA. I will also be presenting at this event on problems we encountered at one site in treating cooling tower blowdown for zero liquid discharge. Best regards, Brad 7 days ago Unlike Like
Sumit Agrawal Thanks Brad. Regarding air-cooled condensers, it doesnt make for a practical experience at my location in Thailand. I understand it is mostly preferable for Middle East countries because of water scarcity there. Also the area required by air cooled condensers is quite high compared to conventional cooling towers, which is not financially feasible for our site. However I have no idea about hybrid cooling towers and would wait for more information from you. Also do send me some technical materials about ZLD, as we are working on it presently for a new thermal power plant with waste water flow rate being about 5000 m3/day 7 days ago Unlike Like
syed AkhtarUnfollow Follow syed Akhtar syed Akhtar ahmad Hi Brad. Good topic can you provide some information of hybrid cooling towers. My E-Mail add saahmad2@hotmail.com 6 days ago Unlike Like
EdenUnfollow Follow Eden Eden Yunus Morning Brad. If could, can you also share to me. My e-mail eden_yunus@yahoo.com. Thank you very much, Brad 6 days ago Unlike Like
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R.K.Unfollow Follow R.K. R.K. Anand Hi Brad, Pl share details of high brid cooling at my mail id: rajendrakumar.anand@gmail.com 6 days ago Unlike Like
DevpriyaUnfollow Follow Devpriya Devpriya Ghosh Syed, Do you want to calculate entire water requirement in a power plant having wet cooling tower system? or Water requirement for Cooling Water system? 5 days ago Unlike Like
sunilUnfollow Follow sunil sunil jhakal water required for cooling tower depends where you have installed it whether near coastal areas or in dry region,which will directly affect the ambient temerature will depend upon the delta T design of the system for which you have placed a cooling tower.what is the recirculation rate m3/hr. so if u calculate the evaporation rate u will get to know the quantity of required water. evaporation rate= .0018* recirculation rate * delta T it may defe a little bit due to relative humadity 3 days ago Unlike Like
NicholasUnfollow Follow Nicholas Nicholas Schroeder For instance the heat carried by a circulating water system is: 300,000 gpm*500*15 F = 2,250 E6 Btu/h. This heat must be transferred to the air flowing through the tower. Suppose 1.1 L/G, 1.1 # of water per # of air. (2,250 E6 Btu/h) / (300,000*500/1.1) = 16.5 Btu/h per # of air. Refer to psychrometric chart. Entering air: 65 F, 50% RH, 22.75 Btu/#, 45.95 gr/#. Exiting air: 39.25 Btu/#, 100% RH, 75.7 F, 134.82 gr/#. The air has evaporated 88.87 gr of water per # of air. 7,000 gr/#. 3,462.5 gpm evaporated, 1.15%. For interactive psychrometric tables: http://www.trane.com/COMMERCIAL/DNA/View.aspx?i=1250 2 days ag
NicholasUnfollow Follow Nicholas Nicholas Schroeder I wasn't completely happy w/ the answer above. This is just for evaporation. When I considered .2% drift loss and 10 cycles of concentration the result was spot on 1.5% of flow. MU gpm = (Evap gpm + Drift gpm)*cycles / (cycles -1) BD = (Evap + Drift) / (cycles -1) I think these are correct. Check my work. Thnx.
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AndyUnfollow Follow Andy Andy Wearmouth If you are trying to calculate water consumption at a high level the biggest bearing of all will be the underlying thermal efficiency of your plant (so determining the amount of heat to be rejected to your cooling water system per MWhr of electricity produced) and the capacity factor that it will likely operate (total MWhr). Your intended make up water quality will essentially govern the achievable cycles of concentration achievable and hence blow down requirements to further complicate matters. Evaporation calculations are fairly straight forward once the amount of heat to be rejected is determined. The hard bit is deciding what your design conditions are....ambient temperature, RH etc. Under design in these areas and it is very hard to sort out later.
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sunilUnfollow Follow sunil sunil kumar @Nicholas Actually we are talking about about the standard practice and it is used mostly,Ya,it may be the condition what you are tlkink about on the parameters of water and the enviournmental conditions on which your COC is designed,and it may differ water consumption.
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