"May it please Your Honour" by Nathuram Godse on 30 Jan 2009 142 Comments

[On 8 November 1948, Nathuram Godse (19 May 1910-15 November 1949) rose to make his statement in court. Reading quietly from a typed manuscript, he sought to explain why he had killed Gandhi. His thesis covered ninety-pages, and he was on his feet for five hours. Godse's statement, excerpted below, should be read by citizens and scholars in its entirely, for it provides an insight into his personality and his understanding of the concept of Indian nationhood Editor]

"Born in a devotional Brahmin family, I instinctively came to revere Hindu religion, Hindu history and Hindu culture. I had, therefore, been intensely proud of Hinduism as a whole. As I grew up I developed a tendency to free thinking unfettered by any superstitious allegiance to any isms, political or religious. That is why I worked actively for the eradication of untouchability and the caste system based on birth alone. I openly joined anti-caste movements and maintained that all Hindus are of equal status as to rights, social and religious, and should be considered high or low on merit alone and not through the accident of birth in a particular caste or profession.

I used publicly to take part in organized anti-caste dinners which thousands of Hindus, Brahmins, Vaishyas, Kshatriyas, Chamars and B-----s participated. We broke the caste rules and dined in the company of each other. I have read the speeches and writings of Dadabhai Naoroji, Vivekanand, Gokhale, Tilak, along with the books of ancient and modern history of India and some prominent countries like England, France, America and Russia. Moreover I studied the tenets of socialism and Marxism. But above all I studied very closely what Veer (brave) Savarkar and Gandhiji had written and spoken, as to my mind these two ideologies have contributed more to the moulding of the thought and action of the Indian people during the last thirty years or so, than any other factor has done.

All this thinking and reading led me to believe that it was my first duty to serve Hindudom and Hindus both as a patriot and as a world citizen. To secure the freedom and to safeguard the just interests of some thirty crores (three hundred million) of Hindus would automatically constitute the freedom and well-being of all India, one fifth of the human race. This conviction led me naturally to devote myself to the Hindu Sanatanist ideology and programme, which alone, I came to believe, could win and preserve the National Independence of Hindustan, my Motherland, and enable her to render true service to humanity as well. Since the year 1920, that is, after the demise of Lokmanya Tilak, Gandhi's influence in the Congress first increased and then became supreme.

His activities for public awakening were phenomenal in their intensity and were reinforced by the slogan of truth and non-violence, which he paraded ostentatiously before the country. No sensible

or enlightened person could object to these slogans. In fact there is nothing new or original in them. They are implicit in every constitutional public movement. But it is nothing but a dream if you imagine the bulk of mankind is, or can ever become, capable of scrupulous adherence to these lofty principles in its normal life from day to day. In fact, honour, duty and love of one's own kith and kin and country might often compel us to disregard non-violence and to use force. I could never conceive that an armed resistance to an aggression is unjust.

I would consider it a religious and moral duty to resist and if possible, to overpower such an enemy by use of force. (In the Ramayana) Rama killed Ravana in a tumultuous fight and relieved Sita. (In the Mahabharata) Krishna killed Kansa to end his wickedness; and Arjuna had to fight and slay quite a number of his friends and relations, including the revered Bhishma, because the latter was on the side of the aggressor. It is my firm belief that in dubbing Rama, Krishna and Arjuna as guilty of violence, the Mahatma betrayed the total ignorance of the springs of human action. In more recent history, it was the heroic fight put up by Chhatrapati Shivaji that first checked and eventually destroyed the Muslim tyranny in India. It was absolutely essential for Shivaji to overpower and kill an aggressive Afzal Khan, failing which he would have lost his own life. In condemning history's towering warriors like Shivaji, Rana Pratap and Guru Govind Singh as misguided patriots, Gandhi has merely exposed his self-conceit.

He was, paradoxical, as it may appear, a violent pacifist who brought untold calamities on the country in the name of truth and non-violence, while Rana Pratap, Shivaji and the Guru will remain enshrined in the hearts of their countrymen forever for the freedom they brought to them. The accumulating provocation of thirty-two years, culminating in his last pro-Muslim fast, at last goaded me to the conclusion that the existence of Gandhi should be brought to an end immediately. Gandhi had done very good work in South Africa to uphold the rights and well being of the Indian community there.

But when he finally returned to India, he developed a subjective mentality under which he alone was to be the final judge of what was right or wrong. If the country wanted his leadership, it had to accept his infallibility; if it did not, he would stand aloof from the Congress and carry on in his own way. Against such an attitude there can be no halfway house. Either Congress had to surrender its will to his and had to be content with playing second fiddle to all his eccentricity, whimsicality, metaphysics and primitive vision, or it had to carry on without him. He alone was the judge of everyone and everything; he was the master brain guiding the Civil Disobedience movement; no other could know the technique of that movement. He alone knew when to begin it and when to withdraw it. The movement might succeed or fail, but that could make no difference to the Mahatma's infallibility. 'A Satyagrahi can never fail' was his formula for his own infallibility and nobody except himself knew what a Satyagrahi is.

Thus the Mahatma became the judge and the jury in his own case. These childish insanities and obstinacies, coupled with a most severe austerity of life, ceaseless work and lofty character made Gandhi formidable and irresistible. Many people thought that his policies were irrational, but they had either to withdraw from the Congress or place their intelligence at his feet to do with as he liked. In a position of such absolute irresponsibility, Gandhi was guilty of blunder after blunder, failure after failure, and disaster after disaster. Gandhi's pro-Muslim policy is blatantly illustrated in his perverse attitude on the question of the national language of India. It is quite obvious that Hindi has the most prior claim to be accepted as the premier language.

In the beginning of his career in India, Gandhi gave a great impetus to Hindi, but as he found that the Muslims did not like it, he became a champion of what is called Hindustani. Everybody in India knows that there is no language in India called Hindustani; it has no grammar; it has no vocabulary. It is a mere dialect; it is spoken, not written. It is a tongue and a crossbreed between Hindi and Urdu, and not even the Mahatma's sophistry could make it popular. But in his desire to please the Muslims he insisted that Hindustani alone should be the national language of India. His blind followers, of course, supported him and the so-called hybrid language began to be used. The charm and the purity of the Hindi language were to be prostituted to please the Muslims. All his experiments were at the expense of the Hindus.

From August 1946 onwards, the private armies of the Muslim League began a massacre of Hindus. The then Viceroy, Lord Wavell, though distressed at what was happening, would not use his powers under the Government of India Act of 1935 to prevent the rape, murder and arson. The Hindu blood began to flow from Bengal to Karachi with little retaliation by the Hindus. The Interim Government formed in September was sabotaged by its Muslim League members right from its inception, but the more they became disloyal and treasonable to the government of which they were a part, the greater was Gandhi's infatuation for them.

Lord Wavell had to resign as he could not bring about a settlement and was succeeded by Lord Mountbatten. King Stork followed King Log. The Congress, which had boasted of its nationalism and secularism, secretly accepted Pakistan literally at the point of the bayonet and abjectly surrendered to Jinnah. India was vivisected and one-third of the Indian Territory became foreign land to us from 15 August 1947. Lord Mountbatten came to be described in the Congress circles as the greatest Viceroy and Governor-General this country ever had.

The official date for the handing over of power was fixed for June 30, 1948, but Mountbatten with his ruthless surgery gave us a gift of vivisected India ten months in advance. This is what Gandhi had achieved after thirty years of undisputed dictatorship and this is what the Congress party calls 'freedom' and 'peaceful transfer of power'. The Hindu-Muslim unity bubble was finally burst and a theocratic state was established with the consent of Nehru and his crowd and they have called it 'freedom won by them with sacrifice' - whose sacrifice? When top leaders of Congress, with the

consent of Gandhi, divided and tore the country - which we considered a deity of worship - my mind was filled with direful anger.

One of the conditions imposed by Gandhi for his breaking of the fast related to the mosques in Delhi occupied by the Hindu refugees. But when Hindus in Pakistan were subjected to violent attacks he did not so much as utter a single word to protest and censure the Pakistan Government or the Muslims concerned. Gandhi was shrewd enough to know that while undertaking a fast unto death, had he imposed some conditions on the Muslims in Pakistan, there would have been found hardly any Muslims who could have shown some grief if the fast had ended in his death. It was for this reason that he purposely avoided imposing any conditions on the Muslims.

He was fully aware from past experience that Jinnah was not at all perturbed or influenced by his fast and the Muslim League hardly attached any value to the inner voice of Gandhi. Gandhi is being referred to as the Father of the Nation. But if that is so, he has failed in his paternal duty inasmuch he has acted very treacherously to the nation by his consenting to the partitioning of it. I stoutly maintain that Gandhi has failed in his duty. He has proved to be the Father of Pakistan. His innervoice, his spiritual power, his doctrine of non-violence of which so much is made of, all crumbled against Jinnah's iron will and proved to be powerless.

Briefly speaking, I thought to myself and foresaw that I shall be totally ruined, and the only thing I could expect from the people would be nothing but hatred and that I shall have lost all my honour, even more valuable than my life, if I were to kill Gandhiji. But at the same time I thought that the Indian politics in the absence of Gandhiji would surely be practical, able to retaliate and would be powerful with the armed forces. No doubt, my own future would be totally ruined, but the nation would be saved from the inroads of Pakistan. People may even call me or dub me as devoid of any sense or foolish, but the nation would be free to follow the course founded on the reason, which I consider necessary for sound nation-building.

After having fully considered the question, I took the final decision in the matter, but I did not speak about it to anyone whatsoever. I took courage in both my hands and I did fire the shots at Gandhiji on 30th January 1948, on the prayer-grounds in Birla House. I do say that my shots were fired at the person whose policy and action had brought rack and ruin and destruction to millions of Hindus. There was no legal machinery by which such an offender could be brought to book and for this reason I fired those fatal shots. I bear no ill will towards anyone individually, but I do say that I had no respect for the present government owing to their policy, which was unfairly favourable towards the Muslims. But at the same time I could clearly see that the policy was entirely due to the presence of Gandhi.

I have to say with great regret that Prime Minister Nehru quite forgets that his preaching and deeds are at times at variance with each other when he talks about India as a secular state in season and out of season, because it is significant to note that Nehru has played a leading role in the theocratic state of Pakistan, and his job was made easier by Gandhi's persistent policy of appeasement towards the Muslims. I now stand before the court to accept the full share of my responsibility for what I have done and the judge would, of course, pass against me such orders of sentence as may be considered proper. But I would like to add that I do not desire any mercy to be shown to me, nor do I wish that anyone should beg for mercy on my behalf.

My confidence about the moral side of my action has not been shaken even by the criticism levelled against it on all sides. I have no doubt that honest writers of history will weigh my act and find the true value thereof someday in future."

Nathuram Godse was hanged a year later, on 15 November 1949; as per his last wishes, his family and followers have preserved his ashes for immersion in the Indus River of a re-united India

Justice Khosla's observations after retirement are also worth noting. In a pen picture of the Court scene as it then passed before his eyes he has said:

"The highlight of the appeal before us was the discourse delivered by Nathuram Godse in his defence. He spoke for several hours, discussing, in the first instance, the facts of the case and then the motive which had prompted him to take Mahatma Gandhi's life.....

"The audience was visibly snd audibly moved. There was a deep silence when he ceased speaking. many women were in tears and men coughing and searching for their handkerchiefs. The silence was accentuated and made deeper by the sound an occasional subdued sniff or a muffled cough....

"I have however, no doubt that had the audience of that day been constituted into a jury and entrusted with the task of deciding Godse's appeal, they would have brought in a verdict of 'not guilty' by an overwhelming majority."

May it please your honour, Surya Bharti Prakashan, Delhi, 1994, pp. 24-25 VK January 30, 2009

Justice Khoslas Observation And Pictorial Scene Of The Court At That Time , The Lawyers, Their Arguments, Public Present Would Have Give True Version Of What Actualy Happened -Posterity Can Remember. If Any Full Publication Available It Must Be Produced In All National Regional Languages And Populasrised.

It is worth reading again, especially in todays environment

Madam, I respect your courage to publish this speech of brave patriot late Nathuram Godse. I am a highly qualified Architect/engineer in America. I got frustrated with that old Gandhi Nehru Congress and their British obligating dirty politics. I was young (around 18 years) when this Gandhi/Godse instance happened. Still, I was aware of the tricky politics of late Gandhi and his selfish followers. Anyway, thanks and congratulations again for your courage.

There is no doubt that the present day problems faced by India are the legacy of NEHRU-GANDHI follies.It is amazing that these two stalwarts never fathomed the ugli side of the muslims.Once Pakistan was acceeded to, all muslims should have been turned out just as hindus were from Pakistan.Today they live in India and have loyalties to PAN ISLAMIC notion as well as Pakistan.To believe that muslims are Indians at heart is a mistruth ingrained in us by Gandhi- Nehru combine and being nurtured by the Congress Party.I have grown up in a mohalla with mixed Hindu - muslim population.I know it too well that if one call is given by a mullah to kill the hindu neighbour , your muslim friend would do so without asking any question.

Amazing Document. Read this on Gandhi Jayanti 2009. Once again Beautiful Document

Since long time, I have been searching for the Reality behind M K Gandhi being named 'Mahatma', meaning 'A great soul'. I'm enlightened by the revelation made by Shri Nathuram Godse. However, I disagree on the statements made that, Muslims should have been thrown out of India, coz that does not leave any visible difference between Good and Bad. I believe, we should call Gandhi died in a war fought by Pro-United-India activists against foes to United-India. Its a suggested and recommended read for every Indian/Hindu, who think Gandhi was assassinated.

Well said and Godse's views although distorted could not be said to be completely untrue. Startling yet it was true that a partition was avoidable and a greater Union of India would have been possible if it was not for gandhi's myopic view. And history repeats itself!!! Very interesting peice of document. This has given an insight to the real happenings at the power centre of freedom strugle and how a majority section of people saw the paths of Movement undertaken by INC or Gandhiji.

I m doing my btech, and in the final year. Thanks for , providing us the one of the most importent statement made in court.

If gandhi was a follower of nonviolence (his follower was prime minister ) them why Nathuramji was sentenced to death. Why dont the statement was made public , let the people decide whether the killing of there so called father is justified or not.

Mr Godse's thesis made interesting reading especially in these times when Mahatma bashing seems to be in fashion.Howeever, I do not agree with his premise that non-violence as a policy will not work at all - in the same manner as I do not agree that violence will in all situations. He was divorced from the political reality of the hindu-muslim question that prevailed in the initial five decades of the previous century in undivided India. To direct all his anger towards one person in the face of numerous follies commited by members of both the Muslim league and the Congress has been his greatest disservice to his so called enlightened hindu vision. For the record , a majority of brahmins (me included) do not suscribe to his view.

Mr. Godse should be the one on Indian notes - its should not be a place where a selfish man like Mohandas is immortalized. A true patriot and a martyr. I am, however, concerned about the misinterpretation of his Hindu-Muslim sentiments. Yes we did not have a fanatical Hindu party during partition but we do now. The Shiv Sena, the BJP and so on are all volatile right wing parties that add to the friction started by Jinnah and the Muslim League.

People like Gp Capt. K. P. Sharma disappoint me. Religion, as Mr. Godse saw it, existed beyond silly forms of segregation like the caste system. I take it a degree further and look at it as a caste system for humanity.

"I know it too well that if one call is given by a mullah to kill the hindu neighbour , your muslim friend would do so without asking any question." Capt. Sharma, I too have grown up with Muslim friends and given an option to kill someone I would come for idiots like you who can't look beyond a mans religion.

Was the judgement decided on the merits / demerits of the case or was it one of the preecedents of todays Ruchika / Rathore case, where the judge was prejudiced because it was Gandhi who was killed. Leave alone brahmin which seems to be a taboo to talk about. Is it relevant in todays context, Not at All. Is justice prevailing after 62 years and are we better than 1947 , Reality does not reflect. God bless India.

The speech which you presented here is only brief----Some days back i was going through a magazine of year1948 available in the library There i came to know that he had siud also that the ash of dead body of Gandhi was flown in all the rivers of the world except that of Pakistan--It is insult to Gandhi -----

THANKS A LOT TO THE PUBLISHER OF THIS VALUABLE.DOCUMENT. BEING A HINDU BRAHMIN I CAN SAY THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE REVERD LATE NATHU RAM GODSE.HE STOOD AGAINST THE ODDS AND THE SHATTERED IMAGE OF GANDHI HAD FORCED HIM TO FIRE BULLETS ON HIS IDEAL OF CHILDHOOD.ANY SENSIBLE PERSON SHOULD THINK THAT GODSE WAS NOT A CONTRACT KILLER. HE WAS AN EDITOR AND A PATRIOT.HE FOLLOWED GANDHI EARLIER.SO WHAT WENT SO WRONG THAT HE TOOK SUCH A STEP.IF WE SEE THE HISTORY OF MUSLIMS THEN RIGHT FROM THE STARTING THEY HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH AGGRESSIVE AND MOST OF THEIR FOLLOWERS IN INDIA ARE RESULT OF RELIGIOUS CONVERSIONS.THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN THE FOLLOWERS OF GANDHI'S SO CALLED NONVIOLENCE.THEIR HARDLINER LOBBY ALWAYS TRIED TO INCREASE THEIR FOLLOWERS BY FORCE AND HINDUS HAVE BEEN THEIR VICTIMS. EVEN OUR GOVERNMENTS HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE SOLUTION.CONSEQUENTLY THE HINDUS ARE FACING THE PERIL OF DRASTIC PERCENTAGE DECREASE IN THEIR FOLLOWERS.SO I BELIEVE THAT WHATEVER THE STAND GANDHI HAS TAKEN IT WAS NOT ALWAYS TRUE.HIS WAY OF FIGHTING WAS JUST SUICIDAL.AND HE WAS HAVING A FOLLOWER LIKE NEHRU , WHOSE AFFAIR IS STILL A TALK OF THE TOWN AMONG YOUTHS.SO IT SHOWS THAT GANDHI COULD NOT INFLUENCE HIS OWN SUPPORTERS.SO WHATEVER NATHURAM DID IT WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THAT TIME FRAME FOR THE NATION AND FOR HINDUS.HE SHOWED THE WHOLE NATION THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SACRIFICE FOR THE RACE AND NATION A BRAHMIN CAN TAKE THE STEP FOR WHICH OTHERS HESITATE.AND IT WAS THE CONGRESS WHO GLORIFIED THE IMAGE OF GANDHI AND CARRIED THE SYMPATHY. SO IN SHORT IT PROVES THAT ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD.EVEN OUR GLORIFIED SO CALLED FATHER OF THE NATION WAS ALSO A MAN OF BLUNDERSAND WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANY ONE WRONG BY THE PRJUDICE.WHATEVER NATHU RAM DID IT WAS NOT WRONG AS JUSTICE KHOSLAS OBSERVATIONS PROVE.SO NOW EVERY HINDU SHOULD SERIOUSLY THINK FOR PROTECTING HIS RELIGIOUS RIGHTS WITHOUT BEING LENIENT ANY MORE WITH KEEPING HARMONY.WE SHOULD MAKE OUR PLANS AND EXECUTE THEM BY KEEPING THE WORST CASE IN MIND. WAKE UP HINDUS!!!!!!!!!!!

I think nathuram godse had done write think by killing gandhi ji.He was the only person blamed for making pakistan,dividing india in two parts to save his vote bank and made it impossibleword to reunit them.The impossible word is combination of word i am possible and it will be one on one day but some people did not want that india pakistan the two brothers get reunit.We will prove them wrong and will be one in near future.

I belive that the aforementioned document shows us the impeccable sense of patriotism.I behold Mr. Godse in the Highest possible respect and I also find myself in a cent percent agreement with his Ideology.

Thank you again for such a good effort..

I am a Indian Christian, and love my country and am proud of being an Indian. I stumbled upon this article while following a Wikipedia link.

Although I was a topper in History M.A., I was unaware of such a statement form Nathuram Godseit shows how our historians are biased and erases and conveniently forgets vital pieces of history!

The point bought up by Godse that the so called non- violence and secularism eventually brought about Pakistan, a theocratic state fostering so much bloody violence is a revelation of sorts. Gandhi's myopia and Nehru's hurry to become PM might have forced them to accept Partition, but that has cost not this country alone, but the whole world dearly in the form of insecurity and conflict that is now coming out of Pakistan. Their momentary fallacy has made us the latter generations pay with blood for their foolishness. If Pakistan was not there harboring the likes of Kasab, we could have lived without the fear of being blown up or shot to pieces while we went on with our lives!

But I still wonder why we are yet to rectify and correct that fallacy even after six decades. Godse's life and Gandhi's blood- both expended for India, albeit in different ways- have been wasted by subsequent generations, I reckon!

Nathuram godse killed gandhi, but before killing gandhi one should kileed Nehru who has the ambition to become Prime Minister of India. Had gandhi accepted Jinnah as PM of Hindustan division of this country in three parts can be avoided. Jinnah could survive only 6- 7 months after India got her freedom from Britishers. Alas Godse took the decision so late , he should have killed

Gandhi and Nehru before Indina independence. and Patel who united several princelystates of India should be come PMofi undivided India. It was hardluck of Indian people that Subash Bose whose death mystery is still in our mind could survue and India future could be averted. what we get more than 60 yearsof india's independence, born of terrorist country like Pakistan, who conceives terrorist and send them to India. The muslims of India are by heart with Pakistan. Gandhi created a caste based communiti,which cretes reservations for Hindus in a Hindu dominated country and deprived them to be called as Hindus. shame.........shame.......shame........

The sheer absurdity of the comments above shock me. Gandhi never claimed he had come up with idea of non violence, he credited it to Henry Thoreau, the great American Philosopher from Boston, Massachusets. There were other influences too. Gandhi never agreed to the partition of India and was strongly opposed to it stating that it would come back to haunt India. He had proposed that Jinha be permitted to be the 1st Prime Minister of India as he knew otherwise the British who so desparately wished to divide India would encourage Jinha to demand for a Muslim State, they even concealed that Jinha was terminally ill with Tuberculosis and kept him alive with all the resources the British Raj could muster. Gandhi withdrew from the debate when Nehru and other members of Congress insited that India should not and could not have a Muslim for its 1st Prime minister. This was motivated by self interest on the part of Nehru. Gandhi had insisted if Jinha was made Prime Minister(care taker) he would then have to stand for re-election in 5 yrs and the citizens of India would have the opportunity to elect their own PM. They say a prophet is often rejected in his own land; to vilify Gandhi is the twisted reasoning of Godse trying to justify his henious act of violence, Gandhi himself considered he was irrelevant in post Independant India and chose to resign himself to his religious pursuits. Godse's Avatars have reared their ugly heads in the form of Shiva Sena and BJP who by the very same actions of intolerance and violence gained nothing but noteriety and have been roundly rejected by the Indian electorate. Gandhi's legacy lives on and the world over his concept of non-violence was adopted with success by Mandela in South Africa, Martin Luther King Jr. USA - whose greatest regret was he was unable to meet with Gandhi. Instead of being proud of your hero's like Gandhi who, without violence brought down the biggest Empire the world has ever known (where was the RSS and Godse's mentors for 300 yrs while the British ruled India), justly deserves the title of Father of the Nation and should be revered as such. Godse, on the other hand will be remembered, not as a patriot but a misguided bigot and will go down in the annals of history with the likes of John Wilks Booth and James Earl Ray.

This is pity that new generation of Pakistan as well as India is not being taught the facts of history. The column writers in different newspapers of Pakistan have tried some efforts in this regard. -----Mr Jamil ud din Aalee of largest circulated newspaper JANG Karachi had diverted the attention of new generation to wards the fact that Pakistan was in a miserable condition & it was the efforts of Gandhi by which Pakistan received the amount. Mr Aalee said that he was omd enough so he thougt better to tell some facts(Reference JANG dated 7th september 2008)

----Mr Nazir Naji wrote in JANG on 5th. JANUARY 2010 that Pakistan new generation does not know that Gandhi was killed in firing due to Pakistan (Daily JANG 5-1-2010) ----- I myself wrote an article in Daily MUQADAMA Karachi on the eve of death day of Gandhi (29 January 2010)& copied nearly all the speech of God se .However i further mentioned that the some leaders (including Mr Gandhi) were of the opinion that whatever happened be forgotten & the tussle /cold war betweem Pakistan & India be brought to an end & new born countries should try to make prosperous India & pakistan so that they could get some good status /position in the nations of the world --They should mot waste their energies in the mutual fighting

reference ymy 2nd. Feb comment wherein i described that i have made published a detailed article in MUQADAMA Karachi wherein full speech of Godse has beem narrated ---I have received following remarks from a journalist of Sweden

""You have given the another picture and same I got info from history. It?s very difficult to write true, when all people has fixed their mind. May be many people will not like it but they should present historic evidences.""

i think that nathuram godse did the right thing by killing gandhi , because gandhi was a jurk and lingered the freedom of india by signing the death papers of bhagat singh , he was a great jurk and history will always remember him for such jurk behaviour , he always wore lots of clothes inside but whenever he came out from his home , that time only to show off he wore a dhoti only.

IT GOOD TO READ THAT NATHU RAM GODSE IS BHARHIM FAMILY HE DONE VERY GOOD JOB BUT HE DO A VERY CHIP WORK OF GANDHI MURDER VERY SAD

My respects to Godse,Before that the real freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh,Azad and many more.and all are directly or indirectly killed by Nehru & Gandhi for their personal benifits.Earlier we were ruled by Muslims,British Now by Italians .Any body out there can say that we are really living in free India.Now the present govt says all who died for country are terrorists.

God Only No God also can't save age.

iam R.Sai Sunil a medicine student.

Thank u very much for the incidents that happened on that day. U all think that gandhi is bad, even godse thought the same way but no one opposed him right. There are only sayings that gandhi's words were the ultimatum but no one ever did raise it to gandhiji that it is wrong. Even godse did not do it. How much correct do u think of just blindly killing him. I dont think gandhi was like a hitler or any one. If u think gandhi's ideas was a single persons wish, what do u think is godse's action, is that not a single mans desision?

Thanks so much to publish such a document . According to me godse should be called mahatma not gandhi . Because of congress gandhi freedom fighters like Bhagath singh , subhash chandra bose ,chandra shekar aasad were not even reconized as freedom fighters who realy faught for the country without beeing sefish like gandhi . More than 90% of the INDIANS dont even know the birth date of the real freedom fighters and its only because of congress and Mr Gandhi who played a real dirty politics .

JAI HIND

what was the role of narayan apte who also hanged with godse. it is true that godse knows that after killing gandhi he will be hanged but if he had injured gandhi by bullet then tell all these things in court it may be benifit to all

one piece is missing.There is a book about GODSE by his brother gopal godse who too was accused and convicted in gandhi's murder.In it he described 30 reasons why gandhi was killed.And as i think in today's world when someone kills other for some foolish reasons,like property,dowry,money;30 reasons are more than enough to kill somebody,and also noting that it wasn't for his own personal interests and he also hadn't suffered anything from the partition.He did it for his country. The book was banned by the govt. But my thanks and prayers to the unsung hero who helped INDIA to get some light after the great FATHER OF NATION died. And maybe god fulfill his last wish to get his ashes flown in indus river of undivided INDIA.

killing cannot be justified.but if its for a cause for reason that will be acepted correct for most of the indian in the coming generation MUST BE valid reason.Godse was sentenced to death but his thinking is a vaild question.this is because action if justified SHOULD BE ACCEPTED." iF SOMEBODY DOESNOT ALLOW ME TO ENTER HIS HOUSE I WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO ENTER MY HOUSE." AS SIMPLE AS THAT.And source of the killing that took place is definetly due to the reason stated by

godse.HAIL GANDI !!!!!this is what everybody wants to hear.gandi no doubt was a great man but this is the place where he falters.......

Since the times I could understand a little bit of history and to be precise, history of politics...I was never convinced of Gandhiji's views. I have seen a very popular play in Marathi, "Mi Nathuram Godse Bolatoy" in which Nathuram's character is played by a great actor, Sharad Ponkshe. And this play I watched only reconfirmed my views. According to me, it is still a debatable issue to say if Gandhiji allowing Partition was a right decision or not but yes, there is an amount of truth in all Nathuram says...be it this statement or his dialogues in the play! Unfortunately, Gandhiji is glorified to an extent where people like Nathuram Godse, Subhash Chandra Bose and Veer Savarakar are overshadowed at times. That's why and for many more reason, thanks a lot for putting this up! It's time people start seeing the other side of the coin... I disagree with Godses views on one major point. Gandhi was opposed to partition, however, later succumbed to Congresss will. The real culprit, if any, was Nehru who alienated a much firmer Sardar Vallabhai Patel from the bid to Prime Minister-ship; and then, played the role of a charismatic diplomat by befriending Mountbatten and his wife (special emphasis on the latter) without being able to authoritatively impose any opinion where it really mattered (when the matter of Partition was being discussed behind closed doors between Nehru, Sardar, Jinnah and the Viceroy). The real winner, was Jinnah, who saw through all the fallacy a child-like, stubborn Messiah being slowly abandoned by his people (Gandhi); a flowery, conceited politician who could be toyed with easily (Nehru) and a young, confident navy commander, who sought a practical and dangerously swift way to get the British out of India in the least embarrassing way possible (Mountbatten).

Immediately after partition, Pakistan unashamedly, began its covert operation in Kashmir. The Hindus and Muslims had yet not come to terms with Radcliffes practical boundary line which tore through the very soul of India. It was in this atmosphere, that a side-lined Gandhi insisted on paying Pakistan its due money, which would (Congress and Godse rightfully, knew) invariably be used for arms against India itself!! Gandhi had to be stopped. But, Gandhi was more than a man. He was an institution. He was an idea. Hence, the man to stop Gandhi had to be a man who understood Gandhi; an educated, rational- minded, patriotic Hindu Nathuram Godse.

My plea is to let all students have an unbiased access to our history. Books, plays and movies that challenge Gandhi should be given equal importance as those that glorify him. There is much to learn from the mess created by the race to Independence, who tremors are still felt today in the name of terror attacks, anti Muslim sentiments, Hindu extremist groups etc. Dont shove it down our throats that Mr. X was a great person or that Mr. Y was wrong. Let us decide for ourselves.

Gandhi was a great man. Perhaps, the greatest of the last century. But, he was not without his faults.

For further reading, please do refer to Freedom at Midnight by Domnique Lapiere and Larry Collins; and Gandhi, Hatya anni Me (Gandhi, Assassination and Me) by Gopal Godse. Also, the movie Sardar potrayed aptly by Paresh Rawal.

I donot believe in the so called hindu-muslim war, i think we as indians after 50+ yrs of independence should mature enuf to understand that we are all human, its not the masses who believe in this divide but the ppl guiding the masses.I m nt a gandhiest bt i beleve in gandhism , and as a human being even he has da rights to make mistakes , it was nt he he who was wrong , it was we who didnt hav the guts to say that he did wrong weather it was the partition or nything else..... naturam godse didnt do smthing to cheer about , it wud hav been better if he wud hav stood against mahatma and did smthing to stop the partition .Its high tym we stop blaming mahatma gandhi do smthing 2 make aur country gr8 ,"we still hav tym if we want to"

Sugandha your thoughts are too immature

It's very informative and nice document. oneday, people will realize that how congrs is making divide & rule the india.. by intrudicing so many prgrms on cast/religion basis.. so many centuries, india was ruled by others becuz they were able to divide the nation(by casts/religion basis) and rule the india.. the same thing is doing now by congrs.. India will never develop like powerful country as long as people belive the dirty politicians tricks..

i agree with sai sunil

Wonderful document,not because I support anyone but i feel each n every Indian should read this article. Always there are two sides of the coin,and this is the other side.No one is god here,everyone makes mistakes and Gandhiji and Nehruji also did.I strongly oppose those anti muslim thing,but yes I believe PARTITION was not the only solution.Partition only aggrevated Hindu-Muslim system.We all are humans and lets not forget this(Applicable for Hindus and Muslims as well).

Let me being by saying i believe in peace more then violence or non violence. I know when i say peace it relates to non violence. Peace is when i dont trouble others for my selfish needs, Where everthing is in harmony.

But yes if some one tries to disturb my peace then dont wait till he is done with his violence or wait for him to come to peace. I have got just one life like others and have full right to enjoy it as long as no one is getting hurt. Well said Siddhita. Lets not fight on who is right or wrong. But try and find a solution now........ But reading of what people are talking here would like to add something. Thinking of which i would like to ask Siddhita a question, What would you do if some guy from other country or any where kills your loved once because he wants to live in your house or likes your house or is selfish and wants to live in a awesome house because he is greed or any xyz reason. How will you feel considering we are all humans. Then you should be able to forget it and be fine. To kill someone and give your self in has to come with some level of guts. Godse knew it was suicide but he still did it with out thinking of himself. Do you call it act of a murderer. I dont think so. Then all the Jawans getting killed on the border are just wasting their lives so we can live happily. Mr. R Sai Sunil if it was that easy to tell Gandhi that he was wrong and he would stop it. So do you think something in wrong in our todays system why dont you go and tell them they will stop. JAMES THOMAS - I dont think Mr.Gandhi was also there for 300 years. He was 79 when he died. He came to india in 1915. No doubt he has done great things that does not mean his mistake are to be forgotten. He did a fast to give pakistan what they want then why dint he fast so that they dont divide the country. He was at his peak people would have opted for that too. To be a great soul you have to do the right things not give in too situations. Non violence is nice but many lost their lifes too. British knew if people like Bhagat Singh got things done their way they would be in a bad state. Gandhi was the best option out. Things that happened were very situational. Its been 63 years now, And congress is been ruling since then we dont even know half the things on paper or books how far is it true. A party ruling for such a long time could have manipulate so many things. Why did they BAN Gopal Godse's book were they scared of something. People have their brains to judge what is right or wrong. Aren't we a democratic country. By talking about Shiv Sena , BJP and their action how do we know Congress is right they started the ruling and we have been ruled by them since. So lets now get todays Politics in what happened when it all started.

This article is about Godse and if what he wrote has any truth then with his state of mind at that point in time he did a very brave job. Killing is wrong but what else could he do. Someone said a write thing should have killed Nehru too for being so selfish.

after going through all the comments, can only say that no one from above, knows the history. all have their matured views even before reading this article. one only hear what he wants to. everyone has his own interpretation of Godse's speech.

pls don't. it would not be fair to Godse or Gandhi. you should first go and read about the lives of both and not what has been written because it is not always the truth. go and find the truth and then comment. have been following Gandhi's life history for long now and have studied a lot of material, both written and otherwise. i'm not a Gandhi fan at all. but we have to agree that there was something about him that millions of people followed him blindly. even Bhagat Singh or Nathuram Godse were initially Gandhi followers. it was later on that they changed the lanes with due respect to their thoughts. as Bhagat Singh once said that Gandhi's style of non-violence or pacifism is the highest degree of violence. now this statement can be read in its true spirit or can be mis-interpreted. so best is - go do your research if you really feel so strongly about any subject and if not then refrain from such public display of immature levels.

Cheers!!!

What articles are you talking about Navratan. Nobody is says anything about Gandhi being bad or great. Why did Bhagat Singh or Nathuram Godse change is what this article is all about.

You said that Go & Know about their lives first before you quote... I believe you must have been a freedom fighter born along with Gandhi that you are claiming the comments of the readers are at immature level.

You do not know me neither my life... You was not present while the time I born/ neither with me. How would you judge me? Its your thought which keeps you alive forever.

Why do you praise The Great Shivaji Maharaj (Not sure if you praise, but I do) is the reason because today you can claim that you are Hindu.

There is a term called Salvation, which can not be done with non-violence strategy or you got to sacrifice your life.

I would rather advice people to go and read more about Hinduism, at least to get your base stronger about your own Religion... Believe in Hinduism. Lets get the caste system out of our way its the biggest enemy & strongest poison in our life.

Thanks for being patient & understanding the comment.

this is really a nice piece of document,we must owe to every freedom fighter who has given their lives for the independence of india,many leaders like subhash chandra bose, bhagat singh,azad thought freedom from foreign to india is more important than their lives. but so called father of nation and our first prime minster of india we sitting in delhi and appease the britishers and begging them for freedom. i dont believe that muslims are not part of india every person who love this soil is a part of india may be hindu or muslim but for appeasing one community one should not hurt the feelings of majority everyone has a equal right on this nation. only a dynamic leadership would take the country forward not the country. godse is a real patriot

and one more thing in the name of secularism we must not be try to appease one community. i really respect our prime minister manmohan singh but once he said the first right on the resource and development of this nation is for muslims. it is very false statement this is was congress stand is. it should the poor people of the country who have first right on this nation resource and development we are living in a false secularism.may be hindu or muslim it doesnt matter everyone is equal in this country.why does great leader like netaji, bhagat singh and all other leaders who died for this nation doesnt receive the same respect and importance as recieved by gandhi and nehru is that because they doesnt belong to congress?

i do not know who actually was right and who actually was wrong...but man cannot always be right in his deeds........so even the 'mahatma' could have made a grievous mistake that made godse who was a true believer of gandhi, to take his life.....

First of all thank you for posting such article. read all comments & stunned to know many facts about our history (which our politicians hid from us, even they banned book by Mr. Gopal Godse, which should not happen in secular, free country like India) . I have seen marathi play "Mi Nathuram Godse boltoy". I reuest all of u to see this play(unfortunately it iss only in marathi). Wht made Godse to kill Gandhi (his childhood idol)? Sugadha & sai sunil - as per my knowledge Nathuram did whatever he cud to raise his voice against partition & Gandhi's decision, out side bal bhavan. he was editor for Agrani. Wiki - Godse started a Marathi newspaper for Hindu Mahasabha called Agrani, which some years later was renamed. Hindu Rashtra. He raised voice against giving 55 crores to Pakistan. But all in vain. Pls watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BreRTGb1ZQ&feature=related , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIn5YTLRb7s&feature=related - (its in marathi, if u want i will translate it for you.) one nice exm given in this video - 1 hindu told Nathuram to ask Gandhi to break his fast by drinking blood of his 8 yrs old son, who was killed by muslims. (We haven't seen slaughter of our relatives, rapes of our mother & sisters, pain of partition, so its easy for us to discuss that Gandhi's decision for partition was rght or wrong. But those ppl suffer that agony. I think this is the answer Why did Bhagat Singh or Nathuram Godse changed. 1) partition was not necessary. Gandhi took that decision (be it under pressure of congress) but on cost of many indian(hindu+muslims)lives. human bound to make mistake, but when u are term as father of nation its your responsibility to take decisions which should be correct, in interest of ppl of ur nation & not under influence of any person or political party.. This decision was wrong. 2) giving 55 crores to pakistan was wrong. 3) called for an end to the Non-cooperation movement after chauri chaura was wrong. 4) he never asked for complete freedom. There was neither personal benefit, political agenda behind Gandhi's assassination nor Mr. Godse was maniac. it was a thoughtful process & only Gandhi was targeted because he was think tank behind congress party & his thousands followers & his ideas were single persons's wish. Sai Sunil - If u think gandhi's ideas was a single persons wish, what do u think is godse's action, is that not a single mans desision? you should remember that even before independance Gandhi was most powerful leader in india, father of nation & one can not expect single person wish from such person & Such single person wish affected many Indian lives. While Godse's single man's decision affected only 3 lives. I dont disrespect/neglect Gandhi's sacrifice, wht he did for country. But certainly he is not father of nation. he did many blunders, took selfish decisions.A person can not be greater than nation & thats why he was murdered. I appreciate VAGISH MISHRA views - Gandhi's way of fighting were suicidal, self/our religion defense is necessary.

James Thomas - Gandhi never agreed to the partition of India and was strongly opposed to it stating that it would come back to haunt India. ---- but he didnt went for hunger strike at that time(as usually he did for other issues), he had the ability to stop the partition, but he didnt try or kneel down before congress wht say? Also British left India coz they had heavy loses in WW2, else it wudnt had been possible with non voilence. ---where was the RSS and Godse's mentors for 300 yrs while the British ruled India wht do u called Shivaji Maharaj's war against moguls & british? Tilak, savarkar, bose were also doing same against british. if they wud have been in this world for a while, India wud gained independance long before 1947. DR SUNIL JAGADISH RAO , please dont give statement on behalf of any community (a majority of brahmins (me included) do not suscribe to his view). State wht u think. u dont represent a community/ group of ppl.

Gandhi was lived for his values/principles but Mr. Godse died for the same.

I salute Late Mr. Nathuram Godse & his sacrifice for the country. By hanging Nathuram & putting "hey Ram" words in dying Gandhi's mouth(Gandhi never said that), Gandhi's own followers demolish Gandhi's principle of non-voilence & secularism. We need nathuram in this era also to demolish the congress, which still ruining our country(not favoring any other existing political party). Goverment should publish the facts to public, lift ban on book by Gopal Godse, let the ppl know dirty facts about the politicians & let them decide wht is rght n wht is wrong?

I salute late Mr. Nathuram Godse for his thoughts and respect for greart warriors of Bharat (India). Mr. Gandhi was not a wise man but he sould have left to die with his own fate. I am sorry that Gandhi had painless death. Why Mr. Gandhi was not allowed to visit Amritsar by students of Khalsa college?

Godse was not a patriot.He was just a hindu extremist

Godse's speech is interesting because it is articulate and emotionally detached. It's also reflective of the mindset of radical Hindus of the time. But many of his statements are either born of ignorance, or intentional half-truthsGandhi fought hard against the partition of India, after all. Did he not fight hard enough, or was there no stopping that ball once it began rolling? Who are you and I to

say? Godse's allegiance is also socially inclusiveAs he openly admits, his compassion is only for Hindus. In the end, just a murderer with a heart filled with prejudice.

I dont know who was more right and just. But i can surely say nobody is perfect. Gandhi never claimed to be perfect. He tried his best to free our nation from the strides of British rules also tried his best so that our society will not be divided. And we can move as a unified country in world. If i have to give an example i would say that even the reservation in higher education and government sector is a modern politics strategy to move along and with those who are left behind, though many people mourn this move. In short i just want to say that i dont think that what Gandhi did was wrong, at that time our society was falling apart, our leaders dint have any strategy to go on about this. And if you say that go on killing every one in your way is courage, then i guess u must redefine your concept of courage. In that situation Gandhi showed as way to to fight in moral and just way. And about appeasing muslim, y do we always forget that even they were part of this nation, though mournfully because of selfish reasons of some they had to separate. And as far as nathuram concerned i think he just saw glass half empty. He did wat he think was right out of his ignorance. Remember this u can win a war, or claim a teriitory with physical weapon, but u need love to win someone. i always believed in gandhi, though i regret some of his action. We can always criticize sitting our rooms and reading to some journals, but it takes lot to actually hold on to sumthin so valuable and precious.

nations are never freed with non nonvoilence or so called satyagreh think tibbet ,gandhi was a weak person who merely criticized shivaji .pratap/ gobind singh icons of hindus but could not dare to talk about muslims in india

Neither godse nor Gandhi are the hero or the mahatma of this country. Gandhi was a very selfish person. Similarly Godse killed Gandhi not in the interest of the nation, but in the interest of RSS the so called communal and inhuman organisation. Both ignored the real freedom fighters like Bhagat sing, Chandrashekar Azad, Subhash chandra bose and the common people of this nation.

Well, I see every ounce of resentment towards Gandhi and I definitely do not agree to with antiGandhi sentiments expressed here. Alright let us hit the nail on its head here. Gandhi fought for peace. He neither fought for Muslims nor Hindus. If Hindus were killed by Muslims he would oppose with the same vehement nature as that of Muslims being killed by Hindus. Mahatma was not for anybody or against anybody. He was for peace. He fought against violence. One should not comment based on an article. One should see both the sides of the argument and then make an extreme comment if assured of its truthfulness. How many of them judged the tone of the article. Its from a guy who is about to die making every last effort to defend his action. Tone is

full of bias and shows the limited knowledge of the speaker and a very compact Hindu upbringing resulting in biased notions. Yes, Rama fought a war against evil. But Rama tried to avoid the war at all times. He fought against devilish minds. If the devilish mind is a Hindu Rama would have killed him. When no good can come out of evil it is time to kill. So also, when only good can come out of someone like Gandhi it was never the time to kill. I see one of the guys actively saying nothing good can come from RSS. Well, Gandhi had decided to kill RSS peacefully, which was the noblest and the greatest way to kill than Rama killed. India would have been very much better without RSS, VHP. These elements are avoiding our progress. One powerful mind that set to kill these dividing elements was killed. India is left under these sectarian evils, while Jinnah's Pakistan is so biased, that it is exploding with civil wars without toleration to even their own brothers. U see, Gandhi is relevant here. He would have taught toleration to people and taught people to leave peacefully. Godse propagated violence, stood for Brahmins, who developed untouchability and stood for anything against Western ideology. Now they all learn English and enjoy Western benefits. How strange and how naive of the intelligent Brahmins, who were nothing short of Catholic Church. When god gave food they praised God. Now when West gives food they embrace Western culture. Life teaches a lesson for everyone who is biased and everyone who doesn't judge both the sides of argument. Godse never learnt. My fellow Indians are still learning it the hardest way!

GANDHI SAID HE WAS AHINSAWADI- MILLIONS OF PEPOLES DIED BECOUSE OF HIM BEFORE INDEPENDACE AND AFTER INDEPEDANE AND AFTERT HE DIED...All this Hinsa because of him..Then why we respect him as Aghinsawadi ,, He is only leader in Indian Indepandance history ..becaose of him more people been killed than any other War.. HE IS HINSAWADI .. Netaji Subhash chandra Did better use of our people who fight for the Independance on border, Each indian Azad Hind Fource person died on border are more valu than Ghandhi.. We Never got the independance because of GANDHI at all .. All asian region was given independance Due to British own problems after Second world war.. Other contries who got independance at that time there was no Gandi in those countries.. GANDHI WAS A KIND OF NAROOW MINDED MAN... We must celebrate his assaination day as freedom day.. If he should have stayed longer that should have big disater for the country .. We must Respect Nathuram Godse who saved the country from this disaster ..

MY SALUTE TO HIM

my salute to mr. nathuram godse the book..........."curse of bhagat" may provide more salute to mr. godse but unfortunately it is banned in india..

Ratnesh, Everything that glorifies the Congress and its forefathers is tought to us as a history .... and whatever exposes their darker sides are conveniently banned .....

I am neither in favor of Gandhi and nor Godse. I believe that the partition happened for good. Look at the naxalites. Are they coming from outside of India?. There is so much of terrorism inside India itself that we don't need anything from Pakistan. Had Pakistan been a part of India today, then it would have been very easy for the terrorists to carry out there operations. Just like Godse said that Gandhi was cunning and shrewd, it might be possible that Godse himself was playing Gandhi's trick in the court, trying to arouse pity. Who knows? May be he was just emotionally blackmailing. If Godse thought that he did the right thing by killing Gandhi, then why didn't he became a martyr by killing some British officer, just like Bhagat Singh, Chandra Shekar Azad etc. I guess Britisher were worse then Gandhi or probably Godse thought that they were better than him. He could have killed any English officer in the name of freedom. For those who think Godse did the right thing, why don't you pick up the gun and kill the likes of Lalu's and Thackrey's.

As a brahman, i am great fan of mr. nathuram godse. readers of this article should read book written by NATHURAM himself named "MI ANI GANDHI HATYA" (Me and murder of gandhi). its a great book. also it is very good job to publish such kind of truth.

Thanks for sharing a great document...i hope matured indians will understand the truth..

in 2010 the problem of terrorism in india is due to gandhi 's decision during partition we hindu can live very peacefully when there is no one muslim in india as well as world.............also mahatma nathuram godse amar rahe...................

his last wish will be fullfill one day..........

WE as indians are conditioned, right from our primary school days about the greatness of mohandas k. gandhi.'De di hame azaadi bina khadag bina dhaal..sabarmati ke sant tune kar diya kamaal' :)). The currency of india has pictures of the great saint :).Sonia and rahul (GANDHI) can keep on harnessing the greatness of the name of the great saint :)) and so can the rest of the congress party. It is perfectly understandable why congress is so afraid of ' MI NATHURAM GODSE BOLTOY', 'GANDHI HATYA ANNI MI', 'CURSE OF BHAGAT' ,'FREEDOM AT MIDNIGHT' and similar books and plays. Let this literature be a part of the mainstream and let there be free debate in a free society..which SECULAR india claims to be. It may hurt the interests of the italian queen of india or the GANDHI prince of india. If such stuff becomes mainstream ..then the royal gandhi dynasty may not have a cake walk in indian politics. i still dont understand why in SECULAR india, did this m k gandhi have to adapt a certain FEROZ KHAN as his foster son and give him the name FEROZ GANDHI. Simply because this muslim guy had sex with Indira, and impregnated her without marriage ?? Why couldnt the SECULAR jawaharlal nehru accept a muslim FEROZ KHAN as his son in law ? Anything can be forced down the throats of Indians in the name of this mk gandhi... {even antonia maino (aka sonia gandhi) }.. what a long term planning it was by mk gandhi and jawahar lal nehru.

It's mind boggling to read the contents of the last speech of Nathu Ram Godse in the trial. A man without fear thinking greatly towards total freedom of the partitioned Indian masses.

We in India even after sixty three years independence still struggle to find basic freedom to rise our voice against well entrenched bandit politicians looting the riches of tax payers, stashing crores in lakhs in foreign banks, leaving the hard harvested bounty rotting in open godowns, spending time in IPL- indian people losing, twisting the judicial orders for suggestions, bring to light the corruption wealth games at the last minute, the fourth lion ( fourth estate ) taking shelter behind three veiled visible lions with occasional tantrums making the citizen to think twice about another struggle for freedom. Today's verdict in Ayodhya after sixty years make us believe how we inch towards issues taking the legal process for six decades and how many decades it will be to have the final nail in the coffin.

Let's rise to the occasion towards fulfilling the basic sustenance to the masses with elevated standard of living.

Its sheer coincidence that I read this in the wee hours of 2nd October.

Its shocking to read this. I suddenly feel that my education has been a bunch of lies.... I have topped the board exam in my state, went to one of the most prestigious enginering institutes in the country and currently work in one of the most widely respected firm in the world... but now everything seems like useless. Had only read the versions of congress goons like bipin chadra etc.... they should be hanged for distorting history and not giving a balanced view! I am proud of Nathuram and the service he has done to history. If nothing else he killed with Gandhi, the black hole of stupid Gandhian bull**it. We would not have had Industires that Nehru built, not have had a decent army that patel built (Hindu mahasabha had the foresight to recruit Hindus to world war-2 effort that gave us a trained army to tackle Kashmir and pakistan on couple of occasions). Imagine India with charkha instead of textiles, khadi instead of our booming textile industry employing lakhs, stupid sathyagrahis instead of strong army with nuclear deterrence. I am sure gandhi would have scuttled the efforts of these people. Gandhi was a violent man - is evident in his invitation to Amir of Afganisthan to invade India !, his approval for war in Kashmir - he was the first to tacitly agree to sending troops to our own Kashmiri people. Gandhi was also a liar and a greedy man - what was his business to meddle in congresses' business by opposing Subhas' presidency, when he claimed that he was not a member of congress party ? He created the remote control much before the remote was actually invented ! Coming to think of it... Congress seems to have perfected this considering Sonia remote controls Manmohan the way Gandhi controlled Nehru (Though Manmohan seems more like an office peon compared to Nehru the guy at least had a vision) Gandhi has no successes to boast of in India - the credit of our freedom should rightly go to three groups - 1. revolutionaries like Bhagat Singh, Subhash Bose 2. constittional fighters like Gokhle, Malvia and finally to Labor party that removed churchill. 'Gandhi' word seems to be an abuse - MK Gandhi betrayed the Hindus, Indira Gandhi betrayed Sikhs, rajiv gandhi betrayed Tamils ! and there are more to follow... Let us denounce the curse gandhi was to sub-continent this day and feel relieved that somebody was bold enough to get rid of the thorn. May Nathuram's soul rest in peace and 'Vande Matram'

we can disagree whether he did right or wrong.. but there is no doubt he was nationalistic..

Goodone...

I've always hated gandhi nehru nexus. Specially because not only they are responsible for the gangrene called pakistan which is hurting india since independence. But really my respect for

nathuram godse has increased manifold. My only regret is that gandhi was not killed earlier. Anyways i hope some day nathuram will get his due respect.

I think the Nathuram Godse has thought entirely on one side and mistaken the great legend MAHATMA GANDHI.mahatma gandhi is a great person who led for the freedon of the INDIA with his principles and ideologies. Without his principles India would have still given many sacrifices and we would be still under the clutches of the british empire.. Mahatma always thought of peace and he acted according to it, he always wanted HINDUS & MUSLIMS live together with peace. But it was due to some selfish politicians like Jinnah who are responsible for the seperation of india and pakistan and who were entirely responsible to create wall between two brothers. Mahatma Gandhi is truly a FATHER OF THE NATION and without whom we not even dare to see this free INDIA . And finally i want to say is Mahatma has done everything for the welfare of the country and according to me what the Godse had thought and done is wrong. And some day the people who follow Godse will understand or not i dont think.. And i always respect now and forever, The Great man and the FATHER OF THE NATION "MAHATMA GANDHI".

Just one sentence...."This one page speech is far better than a 300 paged pile of blunders named as "MY EXPERIMENTS WITH TRUTH ""

It is not fare on our part to doubt on MAHATMA GANDHI`S loyalty towards our country and his role in the fight for independence from those perverted britishers who looted and vandalized india and called Indians as dogs.As a matter of fact NATHURAM GODSE( criminal and an accused) does not deserve a discussion and to me he is no better than terrorists like Mohd Afzal,Ajmal Kasab.NATHURAM GODSE is just a tip of BRAHMIN hatredness for muslims but the unseen is in parties like RSS,VHP,BAJRANDAL ,they are still breeding there.MAHATMA GANDHI will always remain my hero despite these controversies.JAI HIND and MAY GOD BLESS ALL INDIANS and LET PEACE PREVAIL

i hv read the whole statemet along with the comments. i m sure there will be a difference of opinions over mahtma and godse. it can be said that godse despite being a gandhi follower, could'nt understand gandhi's principles. we know that no one is perfect and so is gandhi. we cant figure out who was guilty in 1947 or 1948. this is becoz gandhi has a great role in bringing up freedom. godse was a sure freedom fighter but he has done a guilt of murdering gandhi. i appeal to all to keep ur mind while commenting.

is the 90 page manuscript available anywhere? and also mr gopal godse s book? there must be atleast a few copies which were leaked out or survived the ban!

twisted reasoning by a narrow minded hate filled individual to justify a criminal act.

In my opinion Gandhi was never a freedom fighter. He was enjoying his life as a barrister in South Africa. He got a shock when he was thrown out of the train because he was thinking that he is one of the high class person and he has all the rights which britishers have. It is only after that incident that he thought of taking revenge of this shameful behaviour done to him. My point is if he was really interested in freedom fighting then why only after that incident.

dear ,team i just wanted to know the truth of nathuram gadse. i got all the details through article... i just wanted to meet the family of naturam gadse? can u provide me address? It has been proved more than a million times that Gandhi was a trickster of a politician and so were his close associates especially Nehru. He was such an insecure man that he did not allow anyone to stay on in Cogress if he did not agree with him. The most glaring example was Netaji Subash Bose who had to move out of congress thanks to Nehra-Gandhi coalition. Its a shame that in spite of being a free country we allow and accept tricky and deceitful historians who have bent the history to suit their masters( read. Nehrus, Gandhi and Congress). They are al cowards who dare not speak anything against minority fanatics lest they lose petro dollars that they pocket every now and then.The country needs urgently, especially the younger generation , to know who were the real heroes of freedom struggle. And finally no one wants a dirty, poor, fanatic pakistan to be merged with India. Had Nathuram been alive he would have preferred that those who support Pakistan should be given free travel to Pakistan.

MR. GODSE DID RIGHT THING BUT IF HE DID THIS 10 YEARS BEFORE THEN it was better for india

MR. GODSE DID RIGHT THING BUT IF HE DID THIS 10 YEARS BEFORE THEN it was better for india. i think most muslims in india are still fanatic they dont want to say bande mataram

we all should start a campaign to bring GODSE ji name in good books of history of BHARAT , also we should target the present day GANDHIS (pseudo secularists) in indian politics.The persons who admire Gandhi they should start satyagrah against foreign origin politicians in INDIA, to pay homage to GANDHI and to save our motherland.VANDEMATRAM.

Any fool should be able to compare the two lives and their contributions to nation or world.Even if you agree that Gandhi's contribution to nation was none, what was Godse's ?

Well killing Gandhiji does'nt justify any act, neither Mr. Godse wanted to prove that it was an act which should be applaud for. People should have the clear understanding of violence and non violence- if a guest comes to my home and starts dictating me, my family and land, should I deal with non- violence or by an act self defense? "Long Live Humanity"

I don't know what god say... but godse did what his mind said... his mind is that, hindutva, what said the colours in the Art of harmony into the land of dharma and karma... i like Gandhi godse....but, i want the countries to come back....the time should come back but, don't that slavery and buggery...of India by those pirates....otherwise these pirates of own land. who told godse to kill the Gandhi, and who told the country to kill godse....it is that history and it is that, book, the English book....finally it became the new testament of governance to our country....if godse is there still, he have kill more than those days....he is a chauvinist, humanist, freedomist, and finally hinduist, i liked his courage...what really need to kill the black behind the patriot....every element in the world looks into a colour , by it absorbing a supplementary light behind the reflection....the godse likes Gandhi by the reflection light...but, he disliked the guru of humanity, by observing the absorption light into him it seem anti-hindutva-separation-mother-India....i wish, may both of them don't fight in the rest....but, everybody should think to kill the violence.....within the sub-continent....don't dig in the rain of freedom...history is to commemorate not to conflict further...it is not the future it is the past....take care all. I am very happy to listen these many patriot's voices are like the songs of freedom....very happy long live long live...The Art of Harmony...

Gandhi was a puppet of Britishs.

The deal between Gandhi and British looks straight to me ask Indians to be non-violent against as (Britishs) and we will help you (Gandhi) to get political mileage and suppress your (Gandhis) political opponent.

Unfortunately (for Indian) this deal worked.

Any person with very little common-sense can point out the fact the thousand of innocent Indian were slaughtered by Britishs for no reason atoll. In fact Britishs never need any reason to hang, to Latti-charge or to imprison any Indian. Very common and wicked example to support my statement is Massacre of Jalianwala Bagh which took place in Amritsar, Punjab (13 April 1919). The official figures were 379 killed and 1200 wounded. Actual numbers were 1300+ dead and many more wounded.

Here the point is why Gandhis public gathering was not targeted. Why Gandhi was never latticharged nether shot dead like my other Indian who supported freedom struggle.

The reason seems straight forward. Gandhi brainwashed and convinced Indian to give up violence against Britishs. This was a plus point for the Britishs.

Tru Incident........................................ Woodrow Wyatt asked to Gandhi, `What would you have done if the British, whenever you threatened to fast unto death, had let you die?' Out came the high-pitched giggle: `Hee, hee, hee! There was never any chance of that. I drank orange juice and other fruit juices. I could have lived that way for years. Very healthy.'

Gandhi was jailed in palaces [aga khan palace], he was never sent to the normal jails like cellular jail. he was then like rakhi sawant of today. big loudmouth. his disciple was an avid womaniser called nehru and now a days a terrorist called sanjay dutt also uses gandhigiri.

Very Patritiotic

Reading this article makes me feel I have read very less about actual indian history in schools.We have been taught Gandhi was the father of the nation but the truth is this!!...Sri nathuram ji was a true patriot of India..Every indian should know our true history and should also educate thier children about it so that dont follow the false history books....

I was aware of this earlier. But got a chance to read it now. All the Indians should read this at the earliest! In schools we were taught Manipulated history.

where can i read the whole 5 hour speach given by godse ?

There is book written by Nathu's brother, Gopal Godse named "Gandhi wadh kyun". the book got lot more.

resp. all, plz give me link,where i can download the book, " MAY IT PLZ YOUR HONOUR". OR FROM WHERE I CAN PURCHASE IT. DO ANS BY AN EMAIL.

its been high time since we have been teaching our students rather criticizing and telling our students that godse was a fanatic he was a great man all salutes to him

hi friends,i am never been good at history as i am engineering students.but this post is so interesting that i just read all the comments about it.the comments are varied from support of gandhi to support of godse.and through some comment i can easily find that people are either unaware of the situation or then just want to unlook on it on the name of humanity.some think themselves too mature to equalize the religion. but friends to whatever religion we are we shall accept certain truth.let us first start with the basic ideology of a group,it is group of people who ride on similar principle of life,and as when it becomes complex it takes the form of religion. India have cast system but all had the same principle.and till the Muslim invaded India the was a great cooperation and coordination between all these.... till then it was a pure India...... But after that everything changed,the scenario become pathetic.the "atyachar " by Muslim broke all the coordination and hatred was prevailed... Loot,Murder,Rape.........these became the usual news..... this time India was becomes impure and mentally ill,unable to stand all these.... Friends,the sufferer were non other than our Hindu brothers,sisters and kin and kith....... Many of them fought but failed...... The time was on rise,the uppercast of hindu were started being tortured, our sisteres were forcibly dragged from homes and we could do nothing..... We had become weak......could not able to stand against the Muslims... We kept silent,beared everything

And today Muslim in India are non-other than those who forcibly converted through torture,else who had power to turn Indian heart into other religion. "Today Muslim In India Are the product Of rape by the Mughal,but they have forgotten that".... And why they shall not forget,they have the hybrid blood of Muslims...the betrayer,rapist,looters of decades......

Through all these years we were waiting for the power...... And Friends Today We have the power of Majority........ We can Accept all religion but they shall be bound by our own terrestrial laws....... Its Time to make use of power against these dirty people ..... If Muslim Have Love For India Y they don't try to reunite India with Pakistan??? but they will never.... If we give them a feet space they will greed for another Pakistan.......

And today we have...... So friends!!Decide

I am currently in Tamilnadu.Here the situation just opposite to north india.... the people here are too soft on Muslims.....and hence they are expanding them here here they get help from north india muslim legues to make southindian parties....and to make you know here the conversion is at high rate... i am not just here for one or two year but for past ten years and i can say you that Muslims and christian minorities are making a strong ay through unaware majority hindus....... many of muslims here are from soudi..... they get money from them for these works..... the parents are converted on the name of financial help stating that jesus have send them to help......he loves them.... situation is very pity... and here the DMK-congress is too soft on these....

here many of us similar views.... because that's the truth... and friends be firm on your truthful heart.... and those Muslim who love India I Really Respect Them....Because they love truth and i to do that.......

Mr.Nathuram Godse is right, but killing someone is not a good option.

Very informative article. I don't feel that I'm competent enough to decide as to what was done by either Gandhi or Godse was the right thing or not. But my only concern and pity is that the history that is taught in schools in India is very much biased and dogmatically opinionated. I strongly believe that history should be a neutral documentation of what happened. Withholding information is as wrongful as the fabrication of it.

this article in some areas reflects the dark side of the congress and the leaders in power during indian independence.. But the truth is millions of people who were the citizens of india during independence supported Gandhiji and his very vital contribution to Complete Independence..

So killing Gandhiji is very hard to justify. Gandhi the culprit of India he is not father of nation........ Gandhi the culprit of present India situation I hate this from the time I grew up to know the things as the father was in army and my whole family came to about this bugger from him and its really hurts feel pain when I think about what has happen in the rulling of a wrong insane person who was mean selfish jealous its like a stone in hands of a mad person............ Godsey was a hero in my view and my views became strong after reading this artical heros of Indian freedom fighting .... Bose ji, Bhagat ji, Sardar ji, Godsey ji, and many more I bow my head to all of you and many who never came into limelight because of this selfish people of govt.

Hi Friends,

I am glad to read Godse statement on electronic media. I red out his statement in 2005 the book name "Why I assissinated Gandhi'. this book contained around 300 pages. This book is banned by indian government. I purchaged this book in Bangalore high court from one of Lawyer in May 2005. He has given 300 hundereds point to justify his act against gandhi. We never forget one more writer ("Dharmendra Gaud") who wrote this statement in 1972 in his book "Azad ki pistol aur uske gaddar sathi".He wrote "Jab jab is desh me Bhaghat Singh, Chandra Sekhar Azad, Veer Savarkar and Subhash Chandra jaise logo ka samman hoga to is desh ke liye mar mitne vale piada honge. Aur jab jab is desh me Gandhi aur Nehru jaise logo ka Samman hoga to inke jaise hi Gaddar paida honge"

After Reading the whole document one thing that has come up is Mr. Godse killed Gandhi because he was annoyed with the partition of India , he couldn't see divided India and he held Gandhiji responsible for the fact. I think his wish to have undivided India means Hindu and Muslims should

live together in one country , there should be no discrimination of caste, religion, colour or creed.I wish his ashes could be Flown in undivided India .

GODSE your decision was right.

If all the 'Himsa' is because of an 'Ahimsa vaadi', then there is no point in being an 'Ahimsa vaadi'.

It's always a simple task, being wiser AFTER the fact but compounding a man's argument with assassination can never be acceptable, no matter how "noble" the intent. Gandhi was WRONG in dividing India, he was WRONG in allowing the partition and subsequent millions of murders which ensued. Yes, He was WRONG, even in ignoring his own children as he did but should we murder him for that? Is there an excuse for murder? Wisdom is mostly preceded by history and history is what we must all learn to live with.

Godse has exactly done the right job...

and he is the real FATHER OF INDIA....

i want the 90 page thesis....where can i get it ?? pls let me know ? my phone no. 9007672181...

I overwhelmingly suggest that we can't be the judge for the deeds of other person. Godse did what he deemed to be right and Gandhiji carried on his thoughts . Gandhiji's murder was a result of clashes between two ideologies. By the way,, i m deeply moved by the last wish of Nathuram godse. Might his wish come true. JAI BHARAT.

Im not sure, if this article's comments are read like the article itself.

A man borns, learns and experiences things around him and lives for a single notion, when societies of manhood work for their family, their wive, their children, where is the time to think about Society.

Naturam, made a strong, bold and vision indicated by his act, and even now, we see them unknowingly in our currencies. The laughing Gandhi, the father of what?

May be this is old, but our memories on the plot are still strong. I believe or still think the immese human nature that Naturam had to take this action and not defend it. Not for him, not for his family, for the believe of society of hindus and indians is a act that has to be in every child study in world history.

Thinking beyond you, your family, your society for the betterment of other is who should be called a father,

Naturam in fact in his live has proved to be one.

Nathhuramji and Nana Apteji are to be treated as martyrs and national heroes. Every 15th November is to be treated 'Shaheed Deen'.

i have less knowledge about history,i only know one thing "life doesnt come with instruction tag" godse thinking about partition was right, but gandhi has done all may be bcoz of under pressure, every person do mistakes, apart from this bcoz of gandhi we finally got the freedom we should remember this also he took lots of pain to get freedom off india.....instead of arguing we should correct those mistake and move forward....

Valuable views. Eloquent and justified personal views of Mr. Godse. But i uphold, Mahatma Gandhi was a great soul because only he could bring the whole country under one shade. His assassination was sad. May be if he would have lived he would have realised a mistake and could have changed a lot of things. May be he was not given the opportunity to rectify his mistake. I do uphold non violence again. To kill is no solution to any problem. But I do respect the views of Mr. Godse and agree to disagree with him.

It's very informative and nice document. oneday, people will realize that how congrs is making divide & rule the india.. by intrudicing so many prgrms on cast/religion basis.. so many centuries, india was ruled by others becuz they were able to divide the nation(by casts/religion basis) and rule the india..

the same thing is doing now by congrs.. India will never develop like powerful country as long as people belive the dirty politicians tricks..

I am neither Indian or Hindu. I recently finished Mr. J. Lelyveld's biography of Gandhi "Great Soul". It was not until I finished that fine book that I happened upon this document. I am surprised that my views of Gandhi after reading the book were very similar to those described by Mr. Godse, particularly in paragraphs six through eight above.

I am one with Gandhi on his views towards untouchability and I abhor violence as a general principle. But Gandhi's egomania (or perhaps his megalomania) ensured that eventually some disturbed person as Mr. Godse would act out.

i think what Godse said is wrong . if Ghandhiji woud do anything that had violence he would have been captured. The british just wanted a chance Ghandhiji had a vision he wanted to see a democratic India. Do you think Abrahim Lincon was wrong? I have heard that Godses last wish was to speak on all india radio but he was not given a chance. It was said that if he would speak there would be a hindu -muslim riot.

I do agree with Godsey's words...At the same time I am not against to muslims...The way Gandhi had committed to show partiality towards muslims was definitely wrong. Bad thing is that even now our politicians are following the same rules that Gandhi has followed showering boons only to one part of religion. Hope this kind of politics will be abolished soon with the incoming of good people wo comes in to politics and who wants to serve the people based on humanity but not religion...

I think Nathuram's view was too narrow. Not being biased, his vision of India was a country which would accept Hindu supremacy. I am purposely not revealing my name or religion as that would only lead all of you to find a reason why I do not approve of Nathuram's "favour to the nation."

I am not saying that muslims were right in their violent acts, but then violence was inflicted by hindus as well. So singling a religion out "demon"strated the actual mind of Nathuram Godse. Besides, Gandhiji has not issued any statement after his death and nor had he mentioned his state of mind that prompted him to make some decisions. I am sure we would reconsider our thoughts on him once we get to know his reasons.

Moreover, Godse's statement is clearly prepared by him in such a diplomatic way that they justify his actions and show him in the good light.

I am sure several would write hate columns for me; please go ahead.

We will become minority soon..though muslim are stayed in India but they are pray for glorious pakistan...and they are expanding their community by inviting bangladeshis...

A brilliant French mathematician, Andre Weil who lived in India from 1930-1932 writes in his Apprenticeship of a Mathematician that "setting aside all moral judgments, Gandhi and Hitler have been among the greatest publicity agents of all time".

A rare forum - live for 30 months and a topic live for 64 years ! This alone shows that Gandhi Vs Godse - match not yet concluded; each being on strong foot with strong arguments !! Let's assume Mahatma gandhi was not kiled. What would have happened?

1> Mahatma Gandhi could find some opportunity to explain that he did not want a partition, but was forced to accept because other Congressmen wanted powers immediately.

2> Gandhiji might have pressurised to disband congress or at least desist from being a part of electoral politics . This would have prevented the congressmen from misappropriating the credit of freedom struggle for electoral advantage.

3> Nehru could not blacklist RSS and got rid off Shyama Prasad Mukerjee.

4> Once British gone, the difference between Gandhi and Nehru would have come into public galore, thereby reducing the charishma of Nehru before public eyes.

In nut shell, by untimely assassination of Mahatma Gandhi, what actually happened was Gandhi got deified and the congressmen attributed their personal agenda to the wishes of Gandhi. Probably , this was worse than the cause for which Mr. Godse sacrificed Mahatma's and his own life

this is that real job that RSS doing from a long long time yes brahmins should be at the top.All should work below brahmins.Brahmins were and will rule india.all the low level caste people are slave of brahmins coz it is said by god itself .we brahmins are super creation of god and others are created to serve brahmins. if this low level caste people disobey us then it is like they have disobeyed god .

What Godse did was purely based on his inner feelings of being a true patriot and stand for 'Undivided Hindu Nation'..i dont think RSS was anyway linked to the assasination of Gandhiji...the approach took by Godse was wrong and maybe because he didnt had anyother way..Are we shy to call this great country as Hindu Nation or are we afraid of something..???

kasab still would have lived if he had had killed gandhi at that time instead of nathuram...

hay i need the book which is (1)Why I assassinated Mahatma Gandhi, published by Surya Bharti .(2)May i Please your Honor!, published by Surya Bharti.(3)Gandhi Vadh aur Main(Gandhi Hatya Aani Me) byGopal Godse if any one have its then sent it to my ID[snehal3931@gmail.com] or tell me how i find from market ?

It is a fantastic article, but can you provide any supporting documents that justifies or proves that what ever you have mentioned in the article are said or written by Nathuram Godse. As far as I know all his testimonials were all being destroyed by the Indian government after the trial. I tried my best to get hold of the book if there is any "I Nathuram Say" by Nathuram Godse himself, or if there is any book by Nathuram Godse, or any narration by any other author on the trial of Nathuram Godse.

My tribute to Nathuram Godse on today 15th August, Independence Day...

GREAT SACRIFICE FOR NATION .....AMAR RAHI Nathuram Godse..

No killing of human being is justified. Nathuram is murderer and a piece of junk. I believe he is enjoying his time in hell now. I feel pity for those of you sympathetic to him.

I am very gratefull to mr. Godse for making this country get rid of Gandhi..There is huge difference between Appeasement and Secularism..He was follower of 1st..He was Jealous of Bhagat Singh's popularity..He betrayed with the entire country by taking back Non-co-operation movement...A very big thanks to You Mr. Godse...All the real hindustani will be obliged to you..this congressy would

have sold the country to the Muslims had people like You not been there..Even now they are trying hard..to do this..Hats off to You..

salute to nathuram

What Nathu Ram Godse said in court is an inspirational speech. But what he did on 30th Jan ,1948 is a condemnable act. If You are not agree with a person there are other wyas to oppose him. That single mistake of Nathu ram Godse made him a vilain in independent India. & All the Nice work done by him in revering the hindu culture is diluted. If he wanna kill someone why not he shot that Bloody Muhammad Ali JInnah.....................................................................

what godse did was justified as per the happenings and events which unfolded before the killing. i am son of a migrant from pakistan and have seen the life long anger in my parents towards the treatment meted out to them and their families when they were forced to leave their homes, relatives, immediately after decalaration of division of the country into two nations. The cruelty of muslims towards them during the transit will never be forgotten by all migrants as well as the Nelson's eye which the Nehru and party turned towards the Hindus who suffered losses of life and misery when they were made to shift from Pak to India. Had the media been as far reaching and strong as it is today, the veil of Gandhi's misdeeds by shielding Muslims , since they were the miscreants who started killings, arson, rape etc. immediately on getting an independent state, would have been uncovered and he would never have been called the father of the nation !

Salute To Mahathma Gandhi to all saying godse did right thing,he died for nation,then wat did ghandi,did was he lived for the nation,those who say he was selfish wat did achive in his life,unlike like nehru who achieved mny things as person as for his family,guys its easy to die for a course u just need courage,but live for a course and live for more than 20 years.have u ever thought y people followed ghandi he never told them to follow him,even godse agree he is non violent,then y didnt he tried to speak to him,godse biggest fool bafoon,dont he have brain to think killing gandhi only will help to make him a hero,tats the only reason british didnt kill him.if u think gandhi mislead hindus brothers then majority of hindus of misleaded that means majority of hindus loved gandhi,please dont make decision just reading such speaches,then kasab(another bafoon) has his reason for killing innocent people,we muslims on india better kill us rather than calling us non indians, proud to be an indian,proud to live in the country where ghandi baghat singh lived

if godse killed gandhi, if he lived for muslims,then he would have killed the muslims we would be proud to die instead for gandhi and for better INDIA.

Sad to read many of the comments. I have a few questions. i)Was there a single entity called India before the Independence? when and who began the thought? (This land was never one thru out the history or ruled by any single entity. And within, they fought against each other. Sanskrit and Hinduism may be a common culture, so was Europe with Latin and Christianity. We are as diverse ethnic groups as the Europeans) ii) If the independence was achieved with arm uprising and not thru nonviolence what could be the country's status today? Each armed leader would be taking charge in the lines of Afghan? (Look at our self a bit- the north called southerns 'madrasi' , some others call with derogatory tone 'u behari', east of Bengal is non existent to rest of us in India, so on and so forth! Intolerance would be a great attitude under the pretext of nationalism & patriotism. ) The biggest contribution of a non violent movement that gave India is for the first time India was uniting and integrating during the independence movement. The impact is even sustained today despite issues of all sorts. Sad to read many remarks that vomits hatred. Let God pardon Godse for the same folly.

As i think whatever nathuram godse did was not a good way but it was a little bit correct because as a national father of india Gandhi ji should had took decisions equal and should not be in any bodies favour under any emotional inluence...if it would happend that time at present the issue of indiapakistan would not be that much big issue....it would be in cetter condition.......

NATHURAM GODSE AMAR RAHE

Could you please provide a link to a PDF of the manuscript presented in the court? I have searched and unable to locate a reliable soure.

Shri Nathu ram was a real hero . His killing to Gandhi should be seen as extreme patriotic act . We all know the harm we have suffered so far by Gandhi Neharu policies and the situation would have been a lot more pathetic had gandhi lived for more than a day he was slayed. To be honest I am a secular so I do not have any problem that why India was declared secular and I find the act done by Mr Godse was indeed in the intrest of the nation. Saying himself that he believed in hindu way of

living should not discourage anyone prasing him . But here few comments made by some muslim brothers that he was a hindu extremist saddens me. If any muslim or hindu in india considers himself a secular then he should be honest enough to appreciate others .My muslim brothers in india should think above the religion and be a part of strong nation building. They should break the streriotype that muslims think about muslims and their religion only or they demand islamic govt when they are in majority and cry for their rights if in minority. I really have no doubt that we have got many die hard patriotic muslims in India but their good deeds are washed out by majority Anti- Indian muslims. Indian Muslims should be more vocal about Kashmiri and ,Pakistani Hindus as well. They should understand and try to more mingle with hindus masses and set examples of religious harmony. I also urge hindus to kick out pathetic caste system and stop boasting about their caste and people from SC/ST should stop enjoying the reservation system if they have got enough resources and money for studies and alow other poor to be a part of mainstream. Jai HInd

Britishers freed India because they were not in a position to control the colonies after world war II. Most of the countries got independence from british rule after world war II. But in India people say that we got independence because of gandhi. gandhi was a puppet of britishers who influenced Indians to be nonviolent against them. you can never achieve anything with these kind of foolish dramas. If anyone disagrees then please go to Tibbet and start non violence movement against china.

I read the book brought out by Gopal Godse (May It Please Your Honour) and also an interview of him in the Illustrated Weekly Of India nearly four decades back. As a teenager, it was difficult not to be swept by the strength of argument displayed by the Godse brothers. But when I grew up I could see both the sides better. It was a battle of conviction Vs conviction. Both Gandhi and Godse acted upon their wisdom without vested interests. The criticisms against both of them will be ceaseless. Whatever said, one must remember that there were factors and interests other than Gandhi which conceded partition .

I personally feel if Subash Bose, Netaji would have ruled India for first 15 years, whole history would have been better, My research says Nehru did conspiracy and Bose survived plane crash and he was imprisoned in Siberia by Stalin, MK Gandhi and Nehru Colluded with Britishers to Hand over Bose if he was found alive, i believe plane crash theory of Bose is false and actually he survived and died somewhere in Russia, another theory is Bose died as Sanyasi, Truth is MK Gandhi and Nehru were and are responsible for all problems of India, MK Gandhi is the biggest scamster of his times and he made fool out of Indians and rather manipulated them, Gandhi was responsible for not saving

Bhagat Singh, Throwing Bose out of Congress by colluding like goons with others, he total appeasement policy towards muslims, Gandhi's sexual experiments to recharge his male energy, Gandhi use to sleep naked with Abha and manu, one was grandniece of Gandhi and other was wife of Gandhi's grandnephew kanu. Congress distorted history, BJP was tagged communal, hindus got burned and killed which is continuing till date, truth is even Muslims didn't progress, some English speaking self proclaimed seculars keep on bashing Hindus but truth is Hindus are tolerant and cowards, they simply were not able to defend themselves against Mughals, i am sure India will not stay united in next 65 yrs, it has so many problems and complexities that even God can't help. I wish Netaji Bose could have taken control, history would have been different. Also when someone wants to speak truth he is either branded communal, foolish, illiterate and his/her freedom of expression if curbed, i simply hate MK Gandhi and Nehru. Ultimately what Nehru did , he installed his family to rule India for eternity and i can bet Britishers were better than present day Indian politicians.

Have you read the statement of Nathuram Godse?

[On 8 November 1948, Nathuram Godse (19 May 1910-15 November 1949) rose to make his statement in court. Reading quietly from a typed manuscript, he sought to explain why he had killed Gandhi. His thesis covered ninety-pages, and he was on his feet for five hours. Godse's statement, excerpted below, should be read by citizens and scholars in its entirely, for it provides an insight into his personality and his understanding of the concept of Indian nationhood Editor]

"Born in a devotional Brahmin family, I instinctively came to revere Hindu religion, Hindu history and Hindu culture. I had, therefore, been intensely proud of Hinduism as a whole. As I grew up I developed a tendency to free thinking unfettered by any superstitious allegiance to any isms, political or religious. That is why I worked actively for the eradication of untouchability and the caste system based on birth alone. I openly joined anti-caste movements and maintained that all Hindus are of equal status as to rights, social and religious, and should be considered high or low on merit alone and not through the accident of birth in a particular caste or profession.

I used publicly to take part in organized anti-caste dinners which thousands of Hindus, Brahmins, Vaishyas, Kshatriyas, Chamars and B-----s participated. We broke the caste rules and dined in the company of each other. I have read the speeches and writings of Dadabhai Naoroji, Vivekanand, Gokhale, Tilak, along with the books of ancient and modern history of India and some prominent countries like England, France, America and Russia. Moreover I studied the tenets of socialism and Marxism. But above all I studied very closely what Veer (brave) Savarkar and Gandhiji had written

and spoken, as to my mind these two ideologies have contributed more to the moulding of the thought and action of the Indian people during the last thirty years or so, than any other factor has done.

All this thinking and reading led me to believe that it was my first duty to serve Hindudom and Hindus both as a patriot and as a world citizen. To secure the freedom and to safeguard the just interests of some thirty crores (three hundred million) of Hindus would automatically constitute the freedom and well-being of all India, one fifth of the human race. This conviction led me naturally to devote myself to the Hindu Sanatanist ideology and programme, which alone, I came to believe, could win and preserve the National Independence of Hindustan, my Motherland, and enable her to render true service to humanity as well. Since the year 1920, that is, after the demise of Lokmanya Tilak, Gandhi's influence in the Congress first increased and then became supreme.

His activities for public awakening were phenomenal in their intensity and were reinforced by the slogan of truth and non-violence, which he paraded ostentatiously before the country. No sensible or enlightened person could object to these slogans. In fact there is nothing new or original in them. They are implicit in every constitutional public movement. But it is nothing but a dream if you imagine the bulk of mankind is, or can ever become, capable of scrupulous adherence to these lofty principles in its normal life from day to day. In fact, honour, duty and love of one's own kith and kin and country might often compel us to disregard non-violence and to use force. I could never conceive that an armed resistance to an aggression is unjust.

I would consider it a religious and moral duty to resist and if possible, to overpower such an enemy by use of force. (In the Ramayana) Rama killed Ravana in a tumultuous fight and relieved Sita. (In the Mahabharata) Krishna killed Kansa to end his wickedness; and Arjuna had to fight and slay quite a number of his friends and relations, including the revered Bhishma, because the latter was on the side of the aggressor. It is my firm belief that in dubbing Rama, Krishna and Arjuna as guilty of violence, the Mahatma betrayed the total ignorance of the springs of human action. In more recent history, it was the heroic fight put up by Chhatrapati Shivaji that first checked and eventually destroyed the Muslim tyranny in India. It was absolutely essential for Shivaji to overpower and kill an aggressive Afzal Khan, failing which he would have lost his own life. In condemning history's towering warriors like Shivaji, Rana Pratap and Guru Govind Singh as misguided patriots, Gandhi has merely exposed his self-conceit.

He was, paradoxical, as it may appear, a violent pacifist who brought untold calamities on the country in the name of truth and non-violence, while Rana Pratap, Shivaji and the Guru will remain enshrined in the hearts of their countrymen forever for the freedom they brought to them. The accumulating provocation of thirty-two years, culminating in his last pro-Muslim fast, at last goaded me to the conclusion that the existence of Gandhi should be brought to an end immed 3 years ago Report Abuse

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I like the all patriotic-feelings of Godse,Gandhi ji was too much wrong in so many his decisions which have harmed in deep to all Hindustani.In other word he become a rigid man and adopted the attitude as like he is always right in every matter.He emotionally black mailed the Hindu just because the most Hindu respect and love him.But he used this emotional support of Hindu's in his absolutely wrong demands.Many times he put himself above the national interest and above the Nation.

Godse just wants to kill the politics of Gandhi which was just Muslims friendly and he always suppress the wishes of Hindu on the demands of Muslims.In his ambitions he forget the rights of

Hindu and just favored the Muslims all the way.But after all he never got the respect of Muslims and respect of Pakistani people.He failed drastically. 3 years ago Report Abuse

9 Rating: Good Answer 0 Rating: Bad Answer Asker's Rating:5 out of 5Asker's Comment:Thanks to all who took the time to read what Godse had to say. maybe people will finally realise why he did what he did. He did it so India would behave rationally in the future and he was right because Nehru following Gandhi destroyed our military potential and we lost to China..

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...I can honestly say I haven't.

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Emotions of Godse can't be proved wrong. 3 years ago Report Abuse

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It makes sad reading. The arguments appear logical to a great extent, but the action resorted to attain a perceived justice for a group wronged by history, weakened by leaders and steeped in their own apathy, had proved costly for him and his perceived ideals. He made his adversary, who took all the wrong stands to disarm the Hindus badly, to become a martyr. And with that, his own movement became a killer group, in the eyes of people still under spell of the late great leader..

I don't subscribe to the view, having followed the life of Gandhi to reasonable extent, that he willfully pulled down interests of Hindus or anyone for that matter. A person of his acute ethical grooming could be under much stress (I hesitate to call it illusion), particularly in the cause of minorities (muslims) who he would have feared may face hostilities from hard core majority etc. It may be far fetched paranoid fear, but it should have been there..

Did not Sri Ram torment his own wife for all the foolish comments of a drunken citizen? Was Sri Ram paranoid, dear friend? So too, Gandhi suffered from acute obscession to maintain some values and pushed them down everyone's throat to whom he was leader.

He could have been seriously wrong, but did not deserve to be called a traitor deserving a cruel death. We are living with greater traitors who had looted the people more than the foreign rulers had done over two centuries.. and the Swiss bank accounts would laugh at our scales of public ethics. So it is all the more painful to discuss the ethics of tolerating a Gandhi post independence.

I tell you V (I know you are not the V already in the forum for long, going thru the profile but I just answer for the readers who may visit your Q): t There was one ex Congress social Activist, Mr E.V.Ramasamy Naicker, called 'Periyar' (something like Mahatma in Tamil) who started a movement ostensibly against Hinduism, basically driven by communal hate for upper castes, particularly Brahmins, who thought were cause of the discrimination in society on basis of castes. He abused and insulted Hindu Gods and beliefs and even went to the extent of attacking Brahmins in the most savage forms. But he was never even imprisoned for creating social conflicts and hurting a community (brahmins never retalliated being a minority). His party is still there but people had neither given up the religion nor forgotten their caste identities. However there is no acute discrimination by caste, so much as the new caste of political party men - engaged in acute social exploitation, for which anothe Periyar has to come. Leave it. What I was trying to say was, perhaps Gandhi may have been left alone even if he could not be tamed by his adversaries. Except for the punishment in court, what else was achieved by the Godse? Was his statement used for any change of perspective politically, or even in earning public sympathy for his cause?

People make mistakes, wise ones make big mistakes in their great wisdom (working on more complex issues where the chances of subtle blunders could be more devastating).. Godse, the man with a good intention did a blunder that neither served his cause to help his people, nor left him a martyr.. He made himself a criminal in the eyes of law and people who wanted to brand him so, for reasons beyond the murder of a great leader.

Young men, don't follow such aggressive idealists, they err as much as great ones like Gandhi. But they could suffer more damage than the more popular idealists.

@Poondi sir, I was expecting to know your perceptions and thanks for coming out. I attempted a response only after seeing your star to this Q. I understand the feeling of many here over the pseudo communalism now doing rounds and the open expression of communal affinity by people like Iqbal and Godse. The latter duo aspired for a Rashtra of their Faith, while the former hypocrites feign a secularism for their own greed to grab power and not in the least to be fair to all communities. 3 years ago Report Abuse

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What is this I dont even

I just read it and he supported his own ideals, however misguided they were.

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Poondi B Poondi B

Bala I read your perceptions with much interest. You seem to swing between a sympathy for the 'well intended' interests of Godse, to create a Hindu state as it were, with muslim community playing a secondary citizenship role, on the one hand, and also for the way he directed his disappointment against Gandhji. That may fit the Aurangazeb type of imperial govt where the ruler may liken his govt to be of Alla's and treat even the major community outside his belief system as a subordinate one. He was pious, honest but suffered from a bigotry that doesn't embellish his intentions in the least. For even according to Hindu perceptions, the whole world is one family Vasuda eva kutumbakam..

Godse was perhaps a 66% saint, with still blemishes of discrimination among the fraternity of humans. Gandhi was >75% saint for he went beyond the infatuations for one's community at the cost of another, however less worthy it may seem in the eyes of another. In a value system, the scales are not the same with the experts who judge from different levels of perceptions, with their own logics and ethics.

We know that not all the supporters / followers of Gandhi are least adherents of his single ethics in Truth, non violence etc. Still they support him for his popularity, simplicity (which they would not least like to emulate, but appreciate the quality in principle, as an ideal for great ones; not for them..). And all the haters of the Gandhian ways are not corrupt and evil ones. They have their reasonings that failed to get popular because Gandhiji had preempted any doctrine to go with people, with his own powerfully articulated theories, that very much went with the legendary ethics,

enjoying people's patronage. A new theory based particularly on parochial grounds of religion, did not go with people who were already under the Gandhi spell.

So even without any bias, simple reasoning shows how ideological clashes occur at the cost of social interests, with or without evil motive on either side. A feeling of superiority or call it natural eligibility of some group over others - as a national would have against another national in a secular territory, or a follower of native religion would have over other religious follower, in a theocratic state like Pak - would not carry conviction in a modern age, where people had liked to break the barriers of community on race, religion, colour basis, etc..

In the circumstances, the ideas nourished by the unfortunate nationalist, patriot and whatever else you would like to adduce to Sri Godse, were far in want of the basic conviction already implanted in the people by Gandhian thoughts / values. So Godse became an anachronism in the days of Independence. I know the pain it would cause to people who had valued his great sacrifices for the nation otherwise and who loved his people. His lack of trust in muslims as a community had washed off all his merits in the flood of Gandhian thought and he met with a fate that should be expected in historical background.

We may salute him for his good thoughts and grieve for his mistakes - as nicely said by Bala - and hope that the bitterness left by his life is not allowed to taint our thoughts with any group feelings.

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It proves that mohandoss wanted to achieve and achieved freedom for mohamedans from christians, to create 1 and additional half country for mohamedans. Both himself and jawaharlal destroyed the real indian spirit and brought in different type of slavery of india under mohamedan seed., to defy which a christian sonia is planted, to produce priyanka married to a christian robert, with rahul waiting to marry two,. one, a christian and another one, a mohamedan. 3 years ago Report Abuse

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I firmly believe that if we are to begin a secure tomorrow, we have to build a strong foundation today and discussing the past does not bring us any closer to our goals.

The fact is such topics are sensitive to the 2 conflicting religious groups in India. Both have suffered. It is horrible to deny their suffering.

So these are old wounds. Healing does not involve pouring salt into the wound of the other. Healing requires medicine. Medicine for the past can be made up only by ensuring that either party will not draw upon what happened over half-a-century ago and start stirring the old dust.

So let's solve present issues and discuss the security of our future. Let's leave ancient history for teatime shall we?

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Learning from our past mistakes as well as those of others, without seeing who is more mistaken than the other. 3 years ago Report Abuse

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Now, this is valuable info.

Thanks for the post. I heard that there is book written by godse or about godse. Do you know where can i find it. ?

The striking thing about non voilence that i found is......

Non voilence is not completely about the oppressed. If you win something by non voilence it tell as much about the oppressor. People keep praising and idolising gandhi as if he won in what ever he

did by himself. No, Thats not true. If Gandhi won, british also won equally, because they gave it which they could keep with force.

Anyway, gandhi was more of a bigot than people imagine. And we did not get freedom due to gandhi. We got freedom due to WW2. 3 years ago Report Abuse

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had Gandhians been honest They would never hae murdered Godse thereby following the policy of Gandhian Non Voilence ( A Policy of Non Voilence propagated by sio called Mahatma after millions of Hindus were butchered by muslims) i understand the Statements given by nathu ram had never been made public and the accused had not been given right of self defence Mind it Terrorists like Kasabs enjoy this right 3 years ago Report Abuse

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Shy, The Logician Shy, The Logician

what a coincidence i have read the final words of nathuram godse to court, today only during surfing through Wiki.

yes from his words he seems person that have good heart but still he murdered a person and thus his act was condemnable.yes as he says there was no other way to stop Gandhi but what he did to stop Gandhi was revenged by Congress on many Marathi Brahman due to Godse.

but still he was given harsh decision by court for one murder.if person like him would have formed a party of his own instead of killing Gandhi than he would have surely defeated Gandhi's congress in next few years.people have never enjoyed Congress after 1952.it was just compulsion for them to vote for them and that's why Congress wins.

Mr.Bala you have given intresenting answer.and i agree with you completely.