ASPE was organized to serve as a medium in the solution of professional problems pertaining to plumbing engineering as it affects the profession,
community and the general public.
Advance the general scientific interests of the plumbing engineering profession and to inculcate the desire of scientific achievement in the field among the members of the Association. Bring about greater cooperation and understanding between the members of the association and plumbing officials, contractors, journeymen and the general public
Feb. 2012 Volume 36, Issue 7 American Society of Plumbing Engineers A Non-Profit Corporation Chapters Are Not Authorized To Speak For The Society. St. Louis Chapter www.aspe-stl.com
Thanks to everyone who attended the January Luncheon meeting, we had another great turnout. Mr. Jay Stenklyft from Tyler Pipe gave a very informative presentation on Siphonic Roof Drains. Eric Rogers has come up with some great speakers in his first year as VP Technical. Please feel free to contact Eric with suggestions on future speakers.
The 2012 ASPE Convention and EPE will be held in Nascars hometown of Charlotte, North Carolina from October 27 th to the 31 st . Its not too early to start thinking about attending this event. As an incentive to our members the board has decided to send a minimum of one of our members as a delegate and reimburse them for their registration, airfare and lodging. We will select them based on how many general chapter meetings they attend from January thru May of 2012. We will then pick from the ones who have attended the most meetings. More information will follow in future newsletters.
ASPE Illustrated Plumbing Codes Design Handbooks. Please remember to register at the sign in table before each meeting for your chance to win one of four copies of this book (you can only win one book). The winning names will be pulled out of a hat at our May 2012 meeting and you will not have to be present to win.
The 2012 National Engineers Week will take place the week of February 19 th
and ASPE National is looking for volunteers to go out and talk to local schools in your area about plumbing engineering. ASPE is working with other organizations across the country to promote engineering as a career and if you would like to get involved, please contact Pam Newman, ASPE Education Program Coordinator or Mitchell J. Clemente, CPD, Vice President Education.
The 2012 Certified in Plumbing Design (CPD) exam has just been announced. The exam will be held on Thursday April 19 th and Friday April 20 th with registration opening up, January 2 nd . You will have until March 19 th to complete the registration process so just go to ASPE.org for more details or contact Stacey A. Kidd with any questions that you may have.
Our next meeting is February 7 th at the Engineers Club. Hope to see you all then.
Please remember to RSVP to Mike Todd, and bring a friend along!
Presidents Report By: R. Dennis Callahan President DENNIS CALLAHAN c/o Murphy Company 1233 North Price Rd. St. Louis, MO 63132-2303 Office (314) 692-1572 Fax (314) 692-1584 dcallahan@murphy-stl.com
Vice President Technical ERIC P. ROGERS, PE c/o McClure Engineering 4545 Oleatha Avenue St. Louis, MO 63116 Office (314) 645-6232 Fax (314) 645-4128 erogers@mcclureeng.com
Vice President Legislative PAUL HELLICKSON c/o McClure Engineering 4545 Oleatha Avenue St. Louis, MO 63116 Office (314) 645-6232 Fax (314) 645-4128 phellickson@mcclureeng.com
Vice President Membership MIKE TODD c/o Behrman Company 4173 Hoffmeister Avenue St. Louis, MO 63125-2296 Office (314) 631-4400 Fax (314) 638-5609 miket@behrco.com Treasurer KEVIN PATE c/o Gateway Representatives 572 Leffingwell Avenue St. Louis, MO 63122 Office (314) 835-1818 Fax (314) 835-1888 kpate@gatewayreps.net
Administrative Secretary DON SULLIVAN c/o J.W. Sullivan Company 628 Waterford View Court Ballwin, MO 63021 Office (636) 386-6800 Fax: (636) 386-6801 sully0317@earthlink.net Corresponding Secretary /Newsletter Editor MIKE GIANINO c/o Wholesale Plumbing Supply 2080 Exchange Blvd. St. Charles, Mo. 63303 636-916-4430 Fax 636-916-4420 mikegianino@gmail.com
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VP Technical Report By: Eric P. Rogers
I hope everyone had a happy and safe new year.
As we start the 2012 year, I am very excited about getting speakers and presentations lined up for everyones benefit. It seems as though the subject matter and speakers are endless, so why should there be a problem lining up meetings?
Getting a subject that applies to many of our members, presented from a person that is considered an expert in their field that doesnt just want to do a product line sales presentation can be a real challenge. I hope that the selections of programs and speakers thus far have been meeting everyones expectations and needs for true professional education.
A few programs in the works are a tour of a local copper factory and a presentation that sometimes seems to be forgotten, fire protection design and NFPA 13.
The January Meeting on Siphonic Roof Drainage presented by Mr. Jay Stenclift had some very good comments:
1. This system is a pressurized full flow system so pitch is not required as in gravity drain standard systems. 2. The IPC and UPC still require these systems to be self draining so offsets up in the direction of flow are not allowed. 3. These systems may allow for longer horizontal piping runs with smaller diameter pipe. 4. ASPE Technical Standard 45 used for apples to apples comparison of siphonic drains is based upon real world data obtained for installations in Europe. 5. Sipohonic systems must be provided with a gravity vent when connecting to gravity type drainage, i.e. at the base of the storm stack. 6. This is considered an engineered system so using manufacturers software is required during design and contractor field routing, Sizing changes require computer analysis and a more diligent examination by the plumbing designer/engineer.
The upcoming Tuesday February 7, 2012 meeting will be on Rainwater Harvesting and will be presented by Mr. Mark Girgenti. MEMBER Since
Richard Asaturian 1999 Mike Curtright CPD 2009 Dean Duhart 2011 Bryan McDaniel 2007 Marty McNee 2010 Todd Miller 2007 J.J. Nagel 2007 Don Sullivan 2002
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VP Legislative Report By: Paul Hellickson
Sponsors! Be Sure To Send Your NEW Business Card To: jmccarty@aecrepair.com or mikegianino@gmail.com
A lot of discussion has been going on surrounding low flow plumbing fixtures. One of the questions is, do these reduced flows lead to stoppages of waste in building drains? What is the tipping point at which flows can be reduced no further without causing solids to clog the drain line? Does the installation of certain high- efficiency plumbing fixtures contribute to stoppages? If so, are remedies available that can mitigate or prevent drain line stoppages?
The Plumbing Efficiency Research Coalition (PERC) has begun doing drain line carry research and hopes to bring answers to some of these questions.
I would like to get some of your thoughts on this topic, any field related issues possibly caused by low flow fixtures? Send me an e-mail and I will post them in next months newsletter.
On another note, IAPMO has just issued the 2012 edition of the Uniform Plumbing Code. The codebooks will be released for purchase, both in hard copy and digital format. They have made significant changes to the UPC. Here are a couple of the more important changes:
1. New appendix L (sustainable practices) 2. New minimum plumbing facilities table (Chapter 4) 3. New alternate water sources for non-potable applications and non-potable rainwater catchment systems (Chapters 16 and 17) based on IAPMOs Green Plumbing and Mechanical Code Supplement.
As always, if you have a code related issue that you feel would be of interest to others, please get that to me so we can share your knowledge with the other members.
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February is here and that means spring is around the corner. It is not too early to start organizing your golf 4-somes. The annual ASPE Golf Tournament is being held in June. We will have more on the Golf Tournament next month.
The 2012 CPD Examination will be held at testing sites across the country on April 19 or April 20. Engineers interested in sitting for the 2012 exam can register online at aspe.org/CPDRegistration. The Certified in Plumbing Design program is an international certification program for engineers and designers of plumbing systems. Completion of the CPD program and examination confers upon the successful candidate the designation Certified in Plumbing Design (CPD). The CPD is the only international credential program in the plumbing engineering field and sets the standards for leadership within the industry and provides formal recognition of outstanding professionals with advanced skills in the design and specification of plumbing systems. Continue to talk to your coworkers about the benefits of joining their local ASPE Chapter. We are still offering our FREE LUNCH program. Talk to me at the next meeting if you need Membership applications or pamphlet on the advantages of ASPE.
Rick Bradbury Richard Potvin Mark Lukens CPD Jack Fischer, P.E. Melanie Holden Charles Carlisle Jim Whetsel
February 7th At The Engineers Club
VP Membership By Mike Todd
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Abstract/Presentation Highlights:
A. Discussion on reasons to recycle rainwater. B. Sustainable design and LEED impact, description of points achievable. C. Uses of recycled water; flushing fixtures, irrigation, cooling tower make-up, and process feed water. D. Rainwater quality including pre and post treatment as well as different state and local codes and guidelines on rainwater quality and treatment. E. Anatomy of the process; catchment surface, conveyance system, means of storage, treatment skid. F. Catchment Surface; sources for historical rain data, review of sizing calculations and feasibility of system, review of upstream filtration, pros/cons of different catchment surfaces G. Water Storage; sizing of tanks, construction materials, maintenance requirements, coordination of controls, use of natural formations for storage, sample sizing calculation diagram. H. Treatment System; particulate filtration, disinfection, dye injection, building pressurization I. Overview and detailed P&IDs of the two typical system designs (Direct Storage vs. Cistern Storage) J. Filtration to prevent damaging particulate entering the plumbing system; bag and cartridge filtration for low flow systems, back flushable filtering for high flow designs. K. Details, benefits, and disadvantages of sanitization technologies. L. Additional water treatment considerations and technology depending on the nature of the waste, including membrane filtration, oils removal, advanced oxidation, anti-scaling, and biologic plants. M. Clean water storage; controls integration, domestic water feed make-up design to prevent backflow, materials of construction. N. Non-toxic dye injection and pump construction. O. Control system; PLC control, HMI interface, coordination with building automation system, alarms for UV intensity drop and differential pressure drop in filtration. P. Case Study One: Overview of project completed for a large beverage manufacturer in Atlanta that included 2-15,000 gallon above ground tanks, feeds to flushing fixtures and cooling tower, circulation return to collection tanks. Q. Case Study Two: Overview of project completed for large pharmaceutical manufacturer in Massachusetts that included a 15,000 gallon underground storage tank, feeds to flushing fixtures and cooling tower. Water is sourced from both rainwater runoff and reverse osmosis reject. R. Case Study Three: Overview of project completed for a banking headquarters high rise in NYC that included a 50,000 gallon sub-level storage tank and a 500 gpm feed to the flushing fixtures. Run off is obtained from both the roof and pedestrian plaza. S. Case Study Four: Overview of a typical system that has been installed in universities, municipal buildings, and LEED certified buildings throughout the country. T. LEED Overview and Questions
Speakers Bio:
Mark Girgenti is the lead sales and design engineer for Burt Process Equipment an environmental process design/skid manufacturing firm. Mark has spearheaded the design, integration, project management, and construction of water treatment equipment for pH adjustment, rain harvesting, gray water, and high purity water systems in the government, institutional, and pharmaceutical industries both in the United States and abroad. Mark brings a unique understanding to these projects from a process engineering and chemistry perspective as opposed to the traditional mechanical approach from his years of study and publication record in membrane separation technologies. Mark holds a Bachelors Degree in chemical engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and a Masters of Science in chemistry. He is actively involved in academic circles as a professional member of the graduate advisory committee for Southern Connecticut State University as well as serving as a volunteer faculty member.
As always if you have any input of past, present or future programs and speakers please let me know.
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ASPE General Meeting Dates for 2012 February 7th, 2012 Rainwater Harvesting, Presented by: Mark Girgenti
NOTICE: Affirmative response or self registration prior to meeting is considered a positive reservation for food and attendance. Should a NO SHOW occur, you will be billed for the dinner.
Location Engineers Club of St Louis 4359 Lindell Boulevard St Louis Mo 63108 314-533-9333
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