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generqtion ofgirls grew up watching tough, yet

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vulnerobly New York City police detectives Christine Cag1wy (Sharon

"Cagney & Lacey" (cB,9,1982-1988),

Gless) ondMary Beth Lacey (Tyne Daly) on

American.TV's Jirst serious dramatic serieswithtwo female

Ieods (the first seoson was recently released

onDVD).
'two Emnty Awards

Gless,64,who won

for the

and aGolden Globe series, had

been abusy working ocfress and"reportedIy, the last "contract

player" for Universal Sfudios, itself the lsst

that salaried qpprentice system

Roles in a slew

Hollywoodbastion of

for actors. of

Universql telefilms

and series like "McCloud"" "Ironside"

and"The Rockford
"switch" (cBS,197'
Files" led to a role on

secretarywho nonetheless helped her priv ateeye / con-artisf bosses withtheir elaborate
sfings.
Gless succeeded

Meg Foster as Cagney startingwith epkode

seven. She qlso wound.

up succeeding co-creator Bqrbarq Corday

as the wife of series' execunve pr o duc er B arney Ro s enzw eig,

who then creqted the lawyer

series

"The Triols of Rosie

O'NeiIl"

More recently, Gless played

Debbie Novofny, the eccentric

for

Gless in1990.

and starting fune 28, at 10 p.m., she plays another mom,

hyp o chondriac Madeline

but supportive mother of a gr:y man, in Showtimet "Queer as FoIk (2000-2005),

over. There's a Gless Street down in Boyle Heights, then out in Encino there's a Louise Avenue, and then Amestoy Avenue was named after my great-grandmother, along with |uanita Avenue - my greatgrandmother was |uanita Amestoy - and there's a Noeline Avenue. I know you weren't privileged, aad worked as a secrerfiary at ad agencies and at

actress." So he looked at the contract and burst out laughing. I said, "What's so funny?" He said, "This is my contract! I drew up this contract back in the '30s!"

And now a bit over 3O years later, you're shooting "Burn Notice" in Miami.
Nobody shoots in Miami. "CSI: Miami'r doesn't shoot in Miami! We're shooting every

when Tyme, Barney, Barbara and .I were honored at the Museum of Broadcast Cornmunications a week'ago. Barbara couldn't have been lovelier, and I thanked her for her generosity. She's a wonderful woman, and she says she couldn't be happier
she's happily married and a grandmother.

Westen, in the USA Network

Donovan) stuck in Miami.

Gless spoke

caper series "Burn Notice," about a fired spy geffrey with frequent

the independent studios

frameinMiami!

You and Tyne Daly did four TV-movie reunions from

Barney teases me because

1994-96. .
Years.

contributor Frank Lovece in q Manhatt an hotel room not far fr om C ogney's midtown 14th
Precinct.

Sassafras Films and General Film Corp. untilyou were 26, but wasn't your gra.ndfather an attorney for Howard Hughes, Louis B. Mayer arrd

Miami is where he lives I've been in Toronto for the

last six years, doing five years of"Queer as Folk" and a six-

We did. The Menopause The Menopause Years? (chuckles) They're referred to as that [by fans] - there are sweatshirts out and everything!

CecilB. DeMille? Neil S. McCarthy * the McCarthy chopped salad at the Polo Lounge is named after him. When I got my contract at Universal, I took it to him and said [meek voice], "Grand-

I understand Gless Street in Los Angeles is named after your family. There are actually five streets named after my family in L.A. We're fi fth-generation Califorand that and a dime nians - you will get a cup of coffee.

hour miniseries ("The State Within) for the BBC.I go where the work is. I'm never in Miami. Never. And when I got this part and told him we're shooting there, he said, "I don't kirow if our marriage is gonna suwive this! We're
gonna be home every day in the same house!" (laughs)

pa

That and ten dimes. So each generation got a street?' No, I think it happened'all at
once..i{,nd they're scattered all

do you know lUniversal chairmanl Lew.Wasserman?" (chuckles) How green was I? He said, "I know Lew very well, why?" "Well, they're not paying me very much'- I'm

I had no idea. And you and Tyne also appeared together on a 2OO3 episode of her show "Judging Amy." So are you two the Tony Randall and Jack Klugman of women?
I suppose, in personalities.
about doing play together in [London's] West End during hiatus, so maybe we are!
a

making $200 a week as a secretary, and they're only paying me $186 a week as an

You did both survive your being "the other woman" when Barney was married to Barbara Corday. You and she OK these days? Yes. We saw each other

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