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From: "Beer, Richard" |
To: '"Katherine Brentzel"|
Date: Fri, Jan 31, 2003 4:11 PM } -
Subject: RE: Question / \e -- / I

Here are my answers, appearing after each of your questions:

1. When the FTTTF sends you the "green light" on individuals from the
Condor 105 list - effectively clearly trjem from th^ list - does the
prudential revocation remain in place? Or do State "revoke" the
revocation? / \e revocation remains in effect urJtil the individual applies for another

visa. At that time we would take into account all relevant information,
such as the FTTTF 'green light" in; making an eligibility determination.

2. Say an individual from the Condor 105 list - whdse name has yet to
be cleared by FTTTF - applies for a visa at a certain post. The post
would then send in an SAO, correct? Is it likely that the FTTTF would
process this SAO? / \i l IF has advised us that it is no longer playing a role in reviewing SAO's

When we receive such an application we would check the name against TIPOFF
and any other relevant agency. i

3. Refusal code L. This means that the post has pre-application


information on the applicant at post? ;
Yes, that is all that entry means. \. We've seen 221 i on some of the Condor 105 adjudications. What doe

this code mean? / \s is the section of the JNA that lays out authority for; revocation of

visas. / • \. This is an easy one. The nationality code IND = Indiafcn?

Yes. / I
—Original Message-?— '
From: Katherine Brentzel [mailtoj |
Sent: Wednesday. January 29, 2003 10:22 AM
ToJ "^
Subject: Question

Hi again,

Thanks for meeting with us on Monday. I've got a few quick follow-on
questions.

1. When the FTTTF sends you the "green light" on individuals from the
Condor 105 list - effectively clearly them from the list - does the
prudential revocation remain in place? Or do State "revoke" the
revocation?

2. Say an individual from the Condor 105 list - whose name has yet to
be cleared by FTTTF - applies for a visa at a certain post. The post
would then send in an SAO, correct? Is it likely that the FTTTF would
process this SAO?
Katherine Brentzel - RE: Question Page 2

3. Refusal code L. This means that the post has pre-application


information on the applicant at post?

4. We've seen 221 i on some of the Condor 105 adjudications. What does
this code mean?

5. This is an easy one. The nationality code IND = Indian?

Thanks for the information,


Kate
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Date Prepared: May 27, 2003 DOC Number: 888794
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Job Code:320712

Record of Interview
Title Interview with Hale Van Koughnett, State Dept. Visa Office
Purpose To discuss State Department visa revocation data
Contact Method In-person interview
Contact Place State Department Columbia Plaza annex
Contact Date February 10, 2003
Participants State: Hale Van Koughnett
GAP: Kate Brentzel
Comments/Remarks:
I met with Hale Van Koughnett, Special Assistant to the Visa Office's Managing Director, Catherine
Barry, to collect visa revocation data. I had asked Mr. Van Koughnett to create a list of all the visas
that the State Department had revoked for terrorism concerns between September 11,2001 and
December 31, 2002. Mr. Van Koughnett said that, since State did not have a central file in which
they recorded visas that had been revoked for terrorism concerns, he would have to search
through a database called Cable Express in order to create this list. When I met with Mr. Van
Koughnett, he said that the he had found 240 visas in total that had been revoked for terrorism
concerns (105 were revoked as a result of delayed Condor namechecks). Mr. Van Koughnett
provided me with copies of the revocation cables for 238 of the 240 cases (he said he could not find
information on the remaining two). He gave me copies of the revocation certificates for 103 cases.
He also gave me print-outs from the Consular Consolidated Database (CCD) for these 238 cases.
The CCD includes biographic information on the visa holder such as the individual's name, date Ri
and place of birth, and passport number. It also includes information on the type of visa that was
issued to this person, past adjudication information, and the name of the issuing post.

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