How Racism Helps and Hurts White People

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Sat 31 Oct 2009 by abagond
(http://harryallen.info/?p=2714) This is partly in answer to Macon Ds post on Stuff White People Do: fail to see how racism harms white people. Here is my take: Racism both helps and hurts white Americans. I cannot prove all of the following statements with studies, charts and figures, but this is the truth as best I know it: How it helps: They are way richer than they would have been: They live on land taken from the American Indians. They benefit directly or indirectly from the free labour of black slaves and, later, from the cheap labour of blacks and other people of colour. They get paid more for a given level of education. Lower unemployment: they are less likely to fired and more likely to be hired even with a prison record. They get to live in nicer, safer neighbourhoods with better schools.
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They live longer: even poor whites live longer than middle-class blacks. It helps to keep them from falling to the very bottom of society. How it hurts: They become morally blind. Since they do not see the evil they do they are surprised by 9/11, race riots, failures in foreign policy, poverty at home, etc. They harden their hearts. They become partly deluded: they believe lies about themselves, their history, their society. They do not take the truth seriously when it comes from a person of colour. They have a limited idea of what it means to be human. At root, racism is the idea that being different means there is something wrong with you. That means many whites hide or slowly kill their true selves in order to fit in, making them into plastic people. They become small-minded: Because they feel good about themselves by looking down on others. Because they narrow their minds by not taking other people and their cultures seriously. They are not true to themselves and their belief that all men are created equal and so they live with guilt. Crime is higher than in other rich countries and so they live with fear. By hurting people of colour they are hurting their own country. At the very least they are wasting a part of its human capital. Many whites vote against their class interests in part because of race. That is what comes to me off the top of my head. I might be forgetting some big ones. Commenters can kindly point them out. In short, whites are not true to themselves to their morals, their beliefs, their heart, their soul. They are sell-outs to an idea that is beneath them. If I still have any white readers left I know they will strongly disagree. Perhaps they will think I hate them, that I am trying to put them down. Wrong: I am trying to be honest. Whites signed up for racism to create America and they continue to hold on to racism to hold on to its advantages. They made a deal with the devil and we know how that ends. See also: Stuff White People Do: fail to see how racism harms white people (http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/10/fail-to-see-how-racism-harms-white.html) Restructure!: How does racism hurt white people? (http://restructure.wordpress.com/2009/11 /02/how-does-racism-hurt-white-people/) Restructures answer to the same post white people (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/white-people/) growing up white (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/growing-up-white/) whites are still racist (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/whites-are-still-racist/) Why whites are blind to their racism (../2009/08/14/2009/07/30/2008/07/02/why-whites-are-blindto-their-racism/) The hearts of white people (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/the-hearts-of-whitepeople/) white privilege (../2009/08/14/2008/06/05/2008/07/11/white-privilege/) more on how racism helps white guilt (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/white-guilt/) a way racism hurts
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How to argue like a white racist (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/how-to-argue-like-awhite-racist/) some of the twisted thinking required to be a white racist bell hooks on loving blackness (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/bell-hooks-lovingblackness-as-political-resistance/) talks a bit about racism hurting whites how to end racism (http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/how-to-help-end-racism/) stuff anyone can do Posted in 2000s, 2009, America, racism, white people | 52 Comments
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alwaysright101 on Mon 2 Nov 2009 at 14:54:15 reading that, it looks like the benefits greatly outweigh the disadvantages, and that is why whites will not change. because they benefit physically. the disadvantages for the most part are all within ones heart and soulthere are plenty of people out there who are willing to throw someone under a bus if they could get some kind of material value for it. in a majority society one gets afforded the ability to not have to care about other people and their plights. their response is who needs them anyways?. of course the 9/11 one sticks out the most to me, its because of their behavior that events like 9/11 will continue to happenbut what annoys me most is that America is okay plummeting this country into economic turmoil fighting Middle easterners because of terrorism, but this country will not do anything about its domestic terrorism that comes from the KKK and neo nazi and other white supremacist groupsit seems like whites are less willing to fight a terrorist group if it consists of their ownsimply because they probably benefit from the likes of them.
Herneith on Mon 2 Nov 2009 at 17:37:00 The kkk and other white supremist fringe groups, provide comfort to most white people in that they can be used as a comparison to their own racism. These are extreme proponents of white supremacy. The normal white person uses this as a barometer as to their own racism. Of course most white dont suscribe to kkk or neo-nazi babblings, this is why they are invaluable! In their mind they are nothing like these fringe lunatics. It makes them feel good about themselves since they are not so extreme. However, and more dangerously, they are oblivious to institutional and social racism and its deleterious effects on racialized people. I prefer the blatant racist as I dont have to waste my precious time and energy finding this out down the road. I also prefer the white person who acknowledges their biases and racism and works to rid themselves of their views.
macon d on Mon 2 Nov 2009 at 20:27:35 Thank you for fleshing this out, abagond. Im a white reader who does not strongly disagree. Herneith wrote,
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I prefer the blatant racist as I dont have to waste my precious time and energy finding this out down the road. Yes, the blatant racists are easier for me too, that way at least. Beware the moderates, as I think MLK said (or rather wrote, in a certain famous letter). I also like the point you make about a certain mode of relational white identity formation. Racism? Thats THOSE people, over there! (or rather, in many cases, down south)
Candace on Mon 2 Nov 2009 at 23:37:34 Good post although I do believe that you are being a little too hard on Whites. Yes, there are White racists, but what percentage of Whites do you really believe are racist? If Whites were as racist as some of us Blacks believe, would we be around? Why didnt they kill us off during colonialism or slavery or Jim Crow? Why are we still not in slavery? Why no more Jim Crow? My question may be stupid, but considering the fact that there are some minorities who are no longer on the face of the earth (Tasmanian aboriginals, Arawaks, etc.), I just wonder if we dont exaggerate the wickedness of Whites to cover some of our own failings. Perhaps you could do a post on what Whites have done right and yes, they must be doing something right or they would not dominate the world as they do. Personally, I believe that there are lessons to be learned from Whites, from Blacks, from Asians, etc. We all have plusses and minuses in our backgrounds. White people are more powerful than others, but they are not any more evil than others. As I come from a Black country, I know that Blacks can be as wicked as anyone else to their own kind. Ask Rwandans about this. Just my 2 cents.
Matari on Tue 3 Nov 2009 at 00:25:35 If Whites were as racist as some of us Blacks believe, would we be around? Why didnt they kill us off during colonialism or slavery or Jim Crow? Why are we still not in slavery? Why no more Jim Crow? My question may be stupidI just wonder if we dont exaggerate the wickedness of Whites to cover some of our own failings. Actually you raise a good question in my opinion. A question that is nicely answered in an excellent sci-fi short story called, The Space Traders. Its a free REVEALING read you can find on the web via a search engine. It was written by Derrick Bell, a university law professor who happens to be Black.
abagond Candace:
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1. Most racists are not genocidal skinheads. Very few are. These days in America most do not even seem to hate blacks they just look down on them. Whites have made racism into this extreme thing so that they do not have to call what they do racism as pointed out above on this very thread by Herneith! 2. I think 95% of whites are racist, but I could work with a figure of 60%. It is well over half in any case. 3. As a policy I mostly do not write good things about whites and bad things about blacks American culture is already doing that coast-to-coast, 24/7.
Herneith @macon: (or rather, in many cases, down south)
on Tue 3 Nov 2009 at 15:19:30
Ironically I find most Southerners easier to get along with at least on the surface. Perhaps they think due to my accent I am not like other blacks(Im Canadian). They appear for the most part to be pleasant inquisitive(sic) and polite. Since I am interacting with them on a superficial level, I have to wonder why this is. It would be interesting if their outlook would change upon closer acquaintance.
macon d on Tue 3 Nov 2009 at 15:34:16 Herneith, Ive gathered that a lot of white Southerners are more accustomed to interacting with POC and that whites in the North tend to be more racially segregated. Which is not to say that I think racism is any more or less severe in either The South (whatever that still is) or The North (whatever that still is).
soul on Tue 3 Nov 2009 at 20:46:39 On a very simplistic level for a few reasons but the most important one is because: We, black people did not passively sit by and let them exterminate or eliminate us all It is a shame that history our own proud history of resistance haas been soo supressed. Secondly, We are too numerous and it they needed workers. if you eliminate all the people you dont like, then who does your dirty work. Its much better to eliminate their pride, sense of self-worth, economic abilities, aspirations, e.t.c. Own the mind and you own the body completely and that body will do anything you tell it to do and believe anything you tell it, because you control the mind. I dont have much time today or I would have said a lot more. Candace Says: Mon 2 Nov 2009 at 23:37:34 Good post although I do believe that you are being a little too hard on Whites. Yes, there are White racists, but what percentage of Whites do you really believe are racist? If Whites were as racist as some of us Blacks believe, would we be around? Why didnt they kill usoff
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during colonialism or slavery or Jim Crow? Why are we still not in slavery? Why no more Jim Crow?
dani Candace said:
on Wed 4 Nov 2009 at 04:35:18
@Abagond, I wasnt saying that you should praise Whites and down Blacks. I was just saying that some of your posts could be a bit more positive by pointing out the good in all peoples. There must be a way to highlight racists without demonizing all Whites. Dont you live among or work with Whites? I do (theyre also at my church). Cannot say that 60% are racist. I dont understand why you believe that so many Whites look down on you because you are Black. Things are not so bleak! Lighten up. You totally missed the point of this post. I dont think he dislikes White people at all nor do I think he is being harsh on them. I think he strongly dislikes many of the attitudes that White people carry. Theres a difference on hating the person and hating the attitude. He lightens up on them even the ones who post the most vile shit about Black people on here lol. Im sorry but Im going to have to disagree with you though. Most White people are. Even the nicest White people Ive met were very nice but were very ignorant on race relations because of them being blind to their priveledge. I hated their attitudes towards race, but liked them for many other things we shared in common. I dont think Abagond hates White people so much that he can work with them, because I mean we cant escape White people even if we tried. We are called minorites for a reason lol. He just disgut the evil racial social construct that plagues our society and its hard not to avoid White people in this discussion.
Gen on Wed 4 Nov 2009 at 04:44:36 So he must be untrue to himself because it might be too heavy for some people? Come on. In his blog, he presents facts and also his experiences and deep, honest thoughts. Personally, Im glad he doesnt candy coat things.
Therese on Wed 4 Nov 2009 at 11:26:52 lol @Candace Says: I AM NOT WHITE. I AM AS BLACK AS YOU AND ABAGOND. Since when did Abagond turn black? Did I miss something? LOL
Jack on Thu 5 Nov 2009 at 22:39:16 As a policy I mostly do not write good things about whites and bad things about blacks American culture is already doing that coast-to-coast, 24/7. You say you hate whites because they stereotype blacks, but dont you and most of your bloggers do the same about whites on a daily basis. Its funny that you hate whites, while youre using more white inventions (Computer, blogging) to put them down.
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Jack on Thu 5 Nov 2009 at 22:42:07 Gen, whaT FACTS does abagond display? You like because youre a bigot just like him.
AO on Thu 5 Nov 2009 at 22:45:28 OMG . Here we go again with the shifting focus of the topic to talk about all the white inventions again.If it werent for whites inventing this that or the other thing you never would have been able to do this that or the other thing. sigh
Jack on Thu 5 Nov 2009 at 22:45:29 Hey Dani, explain to me the evil racial social construct that plagues our society? You dont like white peoples opinions on race because they dont coincide with your opinions.
Gen on Fri 6 Nov 2009 at 00:56:19 Lol just ignore them. The victimized overlord bit they pull is just so old. You cant argue with people who love the smell of their own flatulence.
AO LOL . smell of their own flatulence. Nice one Gen
on Fri 6 Nov 2009 at 01:06:24
leigh204 @Gen: Eww. Yet its hilarious! And true!! lol!
on Fri 6 Nov 2009 at 01:07:41
abagond Antonella:
on Fri 6 Nov 2009 at 04:34:29
Your long comment on hate facts showed no sign of having read the post or any of the comments. It was not even on-topic, so I deleted it.
Herneith on Fri 6 Nov 2009 at 14:35:54 Abagond posts the truth thats why the bigots dont like his blog, cause he aint buttering up whites. I hope he keeps doing this. You cant argue with people who love the smell of their own flatulence. Yes its like farting in a windstorm!
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abagond on Sat 7 Nov 2009 at 08:03:53 Right: inventions have nothing to do with this post. It is a cheap diversion.
Herneith on Sat 7 Nov 2009 at 20:32:52 Dont you live among or work with Whites? I do (theyre also at my church). Cannot say that 60% are racist. I dont understand why you believe that so many Whites look down on you because you are Black. Things are not so bleak! I work in a predominately white environment and, based upon my experiences, would hazard a guess and say that 90% of the whites harbour some racist animus towards racialized peoples. Is it overt such as blatant name calling? No. It is much more insidious and therefore more dangerous. More dangerous for the racialized person who does not recognize the insidiousness of this racism. Ive seen the fallout from this on numerous occasions when they do. It is nice to go through life with blinkers on, but do so at your own peril. One must be conscious of and recognize the subtle behaviours and phrases employed by many whites in order to recognize racism when it occurs. I think that many racialized people are not cognizant in this regards. There must be a way to highlight racists without demonizing all Whites. Abagond is just pointing out modes of behaviour that racialized people should be aware of. On a level playing field this would be applicable. However, this isnt the case. Abagond is also writing from a black perspective not a white one. Elucidating these many behaviours is invaluable for many of his readers. It provides them with validation in that modes of speech and behaviour they may have experienced from whites, is not in their heads. Abagond puts a name to many of these subtle racist behaviours. I am grateful he does so without fear of alienating readers. In short, he is only putting on paper common themes that other racialized people have experienced at one time or another in their lives. As for racism hurting whites, the pros outweigh the cons for them to recognize and give it up currently. When it is no longer profitable, they may do so.
Herneith on Sat 7 Nov 2009 at 20:40:59 Right: inventions have nothing to do with this post. It is a cheap diversion. What I take umbrage to is the fact that they appear to take credit for something they had no hand in but are benefiting from like everyone else is. Individuals invent, not groups. If he wasnt using this example, he would be throwing in some other cockamamie argument which has nothing to do with the topic at hand. This is highly insulting to say the least, especially to the inventors themselves. To impute a few inventors achievements to a group based upon race, makes for a bogus argument.
abagond on Sun 8 Nov 2009 at 05:27:12 I did a post on the white inventor argument, so those who want to comment on it can go here: http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/the-white-inventor-argument/
Marian on Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 01:36:39 I must mention I see the blond-haired, pointy-nose, fair-skinned plastic head of the white chic at the
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top of this blog page a stereotypical image(An image that is idealized in the media to the detriment of too many girls/women). I assume it is meant to symbolize a sort of June Cleaver version of whiteness: the aryan-esque woman cloistered in a stepfordish atmosphere.I think it goes hand in hand with some of the generlizations about white people I have thus far read here. Im white. But I betcha dollars to doughnuts I got kinkier hair than some blacks on here (in other words I am no typical white gal).what Im trying to point out with my hair is that generlizations are always wrong. I experiance discrimination on a nearly daily basis because of a disablity I have. Ive been denied job oppurtunities, shut out of groups, etc by those of all races, creeds, and socioeconomic status.trust me, I dont get preferential treatment unless somebodys feeling sorry for me (which I cant stand). What I got from the blog and comments is a feeling that yall think all whites have benfited from racism and we are all evil and inherently blind to this fact. I just feel that those generlizations are counterproductive to any change in the status-quo. I understand that TV and such is white-centered, but by operating in the same manner you are in fact guilty of the same thing. Perhaps you see this as a case of whats good for the goose is good for the gander, but to whites it seems hypocritical and therefore nothing to be taken seriously. BUT if this blog is only here to preach to the choir, and not influence whites in the least- then by all means take no regard to what I have written.
Herneith on Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 03:42:14 I must mention I see the blond-haired, pointy-nose, fair-skinned plastic head of the white chic at the top of this blog page a stereotypical image(An image that is idealized in the media to the detriment of too many girls/women). I assume it is meant to symbolize a sort of June Cleaver version of whiteness: the aryan-esque woman cloistered in a stepfordish atmosphere The impression I got was that the picture was put there in a tongue and cheek manner, not to denote any negative stereotypes of white women. What about the white male doll, whats your take on him? What I would ask, should my impressions prove to be wrong as to why this picture was chosen is; Who created these stereotypes you mention because it wasnt black or other racialized people thats for sure. Perhaps you should be critiquing the originators and perpetrators of these stereotypes you mention. Im white. But I betcha dollars to doughnuts I got kinkier hair than some blacks on here Maybe you have some black blood coursing through your veins but are unaware of this. Maybe one or both parents lied to you about your antecedents. I understand that TV and such is white-centered, but by operating in the same manner you are in fact guilty of the same thing. What thing? Perhaps you see this as a case of whats good for the goose is good for the gander, but to whites it seems hypocritical and therefore nothing to be taken seriously. Most white dont take racism seriously if the finger is pointing at them anyway. BUT if this blog is only here to preach to the choir, and not influence whites in the least- then by all means take no regard to what I have written This blog is not written to influence whites or anyone for that matter. Rather, it is the writings of one
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mans views on a wide variety of issues and topics. As with most things one can agree or disagree with what is written, comment or not comment. As for preaching to the choir, as previously iterated, people can choose to read, comment or not. If many happen to have similar views, what of it? What is baffling, is your take on this blog as one whose sole purpose is to influence the thinking processes of whites or anyone else for that matter.
abagond Marian:
on Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 05:24:55
Thank you for your feedback. I do not have a live audience, so it is only through comments that I can tell if I am hitting the mark or not. About the white woman pictured at the top: The man and woman are heads from Old Navy mannequins almost certainly created by white people, like Herneith pointed out. I chose them because one of the points made in the post was that racism has limited the humanity of white people. I did not choose the woman because she has blonde hair and blue eyes that is Old Navys doing. On my main post about white people the woman is black-haired and brown-eyed: http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/white-people/ About influencing white people: As a writer my duty is to present the truth as clearly as I can. More on my model of writing here: http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/classic-prose-style/ If white people like what I write, great. If they do not, I am not going to lose sleep over it.
abagond Marian:
on Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 11:34:53
The only people in this thread who have used the phrase all whites are you and Candace. It is a straw man argument. The post is about how racism affects whites. It never said that all whites are racist. If I wrote a post How drugs affect teens would that mean I think all teens are doing drugs?
Mira on Fri 22 Jan 2010 at 22:40:12 I think white people dont realize this. They dont see that racism hurts them, so they cant do anything about it. Many think racism doesnt even exist anymore. Others think its not such a big deal, perhaps. The point is: racism doesnt affect them and their group, so most of them are not trying to do anything to stop it.
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John Abagond = John Conyers
on Wed 17 Mar 2010 at 16:46:59
People like you only see skin color. Even after the terrible tragedy in Haiti. Do you think that Haitians cared what skin color the people helping them had? I bet Abagond and some other trolls on here did. http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2010/02/john-conyers-d-wants-haiti-relief.html People like Abagond and the few other racist people on this board make the world worse. Hope that youre happy to have something in common with the KKK and white supremacists. Why dont you go burn some crosses? Have fun you sickos!!!
Aiyo @John To the left and leave the blog if you dont get ok luv
on Wed 17 Mar 2010 at 18:23:43
Femi on Fri 26 Mar 2010 at 17:55:13 What is it with the average white American career craving corporate dweller? Its hard to describe in words but easy to feel as a foreigner from a non-anglophone country, white foreigners included. There is this patronising arrogance, sugar-coated and softened with a certain formulaic eloquence. It rarely fails to be as PC as assumed to be appropriate for a given situation, however its poignant enough to pick it up unless youre either blindly idolising the whole country or perhaps a dimwit. I had a job assignment in the US some years ago, along with other colleagues from various European countries. I was the only one with a bit of African in me (1/4 but I can go through as mediterranean or arabic). Anyway, my colleagues were all white by US standards. I can definitely say that Im not paranoid because most of the other foreigners I worked with could sense the same. The way white Americans deal with anybody they consider different is definitely not the same way they deal with each other after youve turned your back. Say hello to favouritism (call it racism if you want), despite the fact they needed us for the highly specialised work. Back then I thought, if African-Americans have to take just half of that all of their lives its not hard to imagine that they could go bonkers at some point. The sad reality is most likely more in the factor 10 and up Now we had the luxury to just go back to our countries; which are far from being perfect either BUT we know that. I dont know what it is but some of the We are the best and the whole world must love and obey us attitude comes across as infantile although it might be a superiority complex. During the Dubya era I think it was definitely a delusion. Dont get me wrong, my experience is mostly based on corporate which are in fact the supreme
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rulers. My contacts to other parts of American life are different. Some of my best friends are actually Americans of all backgrounds but I would bet, without the urge to investigate in further detail, that I also have my worst enemies over there.
Mira Femi,
on Fri 26 Mar 2010 at 18:02:45
The experience you described is the thing I fear. Thats why I am not so eager to become an immigrant, even if economic & social situation in my country is crappy. I did feel that patronizing and generic polite vibe when I was in western Europe so I dont think its about US. To be treated like that, and even worse, in your own country, must be horrible.
Femi Mira,
on Fri 26 Mar 2010 at 18:51:49
I know what you mean. Where I work now we had a few Russian and Asian Indian experts coming in for some specialised jobs. Everybody was trying to be cautious in how they would encounter them culturally but in the end it was clumsy. I dont think the European French fully respected them as they respect for instance my French African colleagues but at the end of the day we would sit around a table and discuss it openly. After some fierce debate, most of the European French guys would eventually warm up to the idea that someone who speaks with an accent doesnt necessarily work with an accent. As I said before, its perfect nowhere. I suppose the trick is to find and stick with people who are well aware of the problems, who are open to discussion and who are willing to rock the boat. Speaking for myself, I say it as it is and I dont mind putting my head out for anybody I respect. If you respect yourself youre much more likely to have others respect you.
hilda on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 05:59:48 I think its important for white people to know Agabond the blogger is caucasian/white..
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The Great White Man on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 05:59:48 hilda
on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 06:07:40
I think its important for white people to know Agabond the blogger is caucasian/white.. Abagond, probably dates black women, like myself and instead of standing up for white people, he started believing the ignorance spouted by black people obsessed with race and white people.. He might have been lowered to one these apologist, self-haters whom believe all white people are evil by nature or that white history is one to be ashamed of. Like that Tim Wise puppet..SMH Abagond being white is nothing to be ashamed of!!! Abagond is a good dude though..
Dochartaigh on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 06:25:38 Wow ^^^^ the thought never even crossed my mind, but it would be funny if you were white!
Leaveumthinking Abagond is black
on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 09:05:41
Aiyo on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 10:27:50 Where are all people getting the idea that Abagond is white seriously read the about section damn http://abagond.wordpress.com/2007/02/25/me/
leigh204 on Thu 1 Apr 2010 at 10:39:54 Interesting. I was never under the impression that abagond was a white guy.
Ankhesen Mi on Sun 18 Apr 2010 at 18:46:58 reading that, it looks like the benefits greatly outweigh the disadvantages, and that is why whites will not change. because they benefit physically. And why reap rewards in heaven when you can reap rewards right now?
John on Sun 9 May 2010 at 08:33:49 I rather be white than black. Racism help white more than hurt them. I rather be deluded than being poor. Any, I think white people sucks. As a people of color, I dont feel any sympathy for them.
lmwriter on Mon 7 Feb 2011 at 14:56:47 Before the Cilvil Rights Movement, it was accpetable to be racist! But with the murder of Emmit Till
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and the lynching and a lot of the other hate crimes that whites did towards blacks getting out and reaching foreign ears, it messed with american foreign policy.And thats when racism became a bad thing.
Erin on Fri 15 Feb 2013 at 07:51:13 As a white person, the only offense I see here is the fact you never clarified that these are trends of behavior and thought among white populations, rather than truths about every white person, or even most. Keep in mind that there is so much more to a person than the color of his/her skin. Someone who is white is not necessarily someone who doesnt know what its like to be discriminated against. There are a multitude of human experiences that shape people, color of skin and racial culture being only one slice of the pie. I have had so many struggles in my life that have made me insightful about what others go through. I continue to struggle in ways that no one relates to. I wish that I had a community of people who could sympathize with me; I wish I had a group of people like me, but I fight my battles alone.
Rebeca from Brazil @Abagond I almost laughed at read this:
on Sun 30 Jun 2013 at 01:20:41
They are way richer than they would have been: They live on land taken from the American Indians. They benefit directly or indirectly from the free labour of black slaves and, later, from the cheap labour of blacks and other people of colour. They get paid more for a given level of education. Lower unemployment: they are less likely to fired and more likely to be hired even with a prison record. They get to live in nicer, safer neighbourhoods with better schools. They live longer: even poor whites live longer than middle-class blacks. It helps to keep them from falling to the very bottom of society. @Abagond, now read carefully and evict anti-white racisms: 1 Majority of whites arent richer. The riches are an small percentage. 2 The land os taken from Native Americans? Yes. By those living on it? Not. Who stolen are dead, who has been harmed, dead as well. Their descendants are on reservation an receiving government help. 3 No, whites do not benefit directly or indirectly from black slave labor, because: a) Few people can afford an black slave; b) The whites are who mostly do charity. c) Nicer, Safer neighborhoods and better schools, because they not try (at least not at same high frequency as blacks and Latinos) destroy, steal, sell drugs or murder on those places they live. d) Imagine an employer and two candidates: An Japanese and an White American. Who hell choose? Mostly probably the Japanese!!! Because? The fame of the Japanese and many other Asians of be very dedicated to the work! Unhappiness many blacks sell drugs, rape, murder. instead of overcoming the past showing their prowess, stay complain most of the times of the white people and their debt. Why not do as the Asians? Be better at work Asians done this and succeed even with the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima;
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4 You need stop eating this junk many blacks call food and search the food of your grand-grandgrandmothers! Have more nutrition, and is cheap even for the blacks pockets!
abagond @ Rebecca You believe in a fairy-tale U.S.
on Sun 30 Jun 2013 at 02:25:37
Please tell me how white people, who fought to the death to steal Indian land and keep black slaves, who warped their whole idea of right and wrong and what it means to be human just to make such crimes seem right and good, please tell me how they got from that to a white rule that is so fair and so just that blacks and Latinos have only themselves to blame. Do tell.
Rebeca from Brazil on Sun 30 Jun 2013 at 21:11:49 @Abagond LOL! I never said about the white guilty on this. read again! I said about to not be so blame white for everything I do wrong. I never said to forget the past, nor to use this to everything you do wrong in your life. An thief steal money. He past is full of racism against him? Who knows! But is simple to assume you can do this thinking its right to steal. In the end he is arrested and go to the jail. Whites men fault??? The thief do anything to be on jail! Need reparations? Go to welfare! If not want, please get a work (even if is few money, but is better than the jail). Unhappiness I walk and see many of them complaining (the same as an baby needing anyone gives him something), instead to search an honorful job. I not live on fairytale. No rule (black, white, asian) has been fully just. Examples (Pol-Pot and his Red Khmer in Cambodia, Adolf hitler, Robert Mugabe, Darfur, Evo Morales, Pinochet). No one of the above are saints! Stop using colonialism as an excuse even that is true you cannot apply today. Come back to the real world, not your fairytale Abagond. LOL!!!!
abagond @ Rebecca You seem to be: 1. Looking at blacks through stereotypes. 2. See white rule as more or less fair and just.
on Sun 30 Jun 2013 at 23:01:32
Neither one is realistic. They are two sides of the same coin: the stereotypes push all the blame on to blacks, instead of finding any fault with white rule. The admitted faults and crimes of white rule are always in the past, never in the present.
Rebeca from Brazil on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 20:53:19 Im not stereotype an entire colour, Im saying abou some crybabies, they stay complaining.
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I said no rule (white, black, yellow) are just. Never said how much just/injust that rules have. Putting blame on the blacks? Abagond, again Im said about some blacks, not all them. breath and slowly set free the air two times, calm yourself. Youre trying say to me Im not aware or trying hide whites fault? If you are doing this, will be a shot in the void. Slavery itself is the first flaw of the white rule! You not has seen that? No rule is perfect, gentleman!
How racism helps and hurts white people | White... on Tue 16 Jul 2013 at 08:12:43 [] This is partly in answer to Macon Ds post on Stuff White People Do: "fail to see how racism harms white people". Here is my take: Racism both helps and hurts white Americans. I cannot prove all of []
How Racism Helps and Hurts White People | Setting the Record on Tue 16 Jul 2013 at 08:22:48 STR8 [] Re-blogged from: Abagond []
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