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., 16:45:45 : [Sri Guru] Reply- LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Gurudeva and Narasimha, Thanks for the new lesson. EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: November 19, 1917 23:03:00 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 81 E 52' 00" 25 N 28' 00"

Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. Find the natal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind of results are possible in career? Answer: Sun's long. is 4 Sc 06. Years from question is 57.6 years . Multiplying this by we get 172.8. That is 172 degree 48 minutes. get 386 degree 54 minutes. Expunging 360, we to this is Ghati lagna. So, the native might position. Ar. is also the 10th house. the birth to the date in 3 for the dasamsa progression, Adding this to the natal sun we get 26 Ar 54. The lagna nearer have got some powerful

EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: August 7, 1963 21:14:50 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 83 E 58' 00" 21 N 27' 00"

Guess approximately when he got married. Answer: Here is my confusion. I knew that it is our Gurudeva's birth data. But, I don't know his marriage date or year. I consider the Navamsa progression of Sun over the 7th house Virgo or the 9th house Scorpio, where it is trine to the UL lord Jupiter, will be more appropriate for the marriage. But, if we consider the Virgo, maximum possible progressive degree is 69. Because, Sun is in 21 Cn 04. So, dividing this 69 by navamsa rate of 3.3333, we get 20.7. I don't think he got married in 21st year of age. If we consider minimum possible degree for Scorpio it is 99. The year of progression is 99/3.3333 = 29.7 . 30 years is too long. I expected the progression should match with the trinal position of Jupiter. But, that is too far at 26 Sc 08, which will happen in 37th year. I looked at Shri lagna, which is falling at 14 Pi 14. (I am not sure of my calculation) This is also at the age of 34. So, this is also not correct.

I am not convinced myself for any position in Libra. Because, Libra is eighth house second from 7th house. Rahu & Saturn aspects it. So, I am confused to give an answer to this exercise. I need to study more by casting a new chart with the progressed Sun period. Thanks Your sisya Solai Kannan

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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : pvr@mediaone.net <pvr@mediaone.net> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 6 2001 ., 18:44:05 : [Sri Guru] Re: Reply- LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-Dear Solai, Good job! I will give some hints for further progress. > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Gurudeva and Narasimha, > > Thanks for the new lesson. > EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. > > Date: November 19, 1917 > Time: 23:03:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Longitude: 81 E 52' 00" > Latitude: 25 N 28' 00" > > Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. Find > the natal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind of results > are possible in career? > > Answer: Sun's long. is 4 Sc 06. Years from the birth to the date in > question is 57.6 years . Multiplying this by 3 for the dasamsa progression, > we get 172.8. That is 172 degree 48 minutes. Adding this to the natal sun we > get 386 degree 54 minutes. Expunging 360, we get 26 Ar 54. The lagna nearer > to this is Ghati lagna. So, the native might have got some powerful > position. Ar. is also the 10th house. Excellent. This position is close to GL. In addition, see if there is a saham close to this position or in 7th or in a trine from it! On the date, the native was at a crucial juncture and the clue lies in GL and a saham. > EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. > > Date: August 7, 1963 > Time: 21:14:50 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 83 E 58' 00" > Latitude: 21 N 27' 00" > > Guess approximately when he got married. > > Answer: Here is my confusion. I knew that it is our Gurudeva's birth data. > But, I don't know his marriage date or year. I consider the Navamsa > progression of Sun over the 7th house Virgo or the 9th house Scorpio, where > it is trine to the UL lord Jupiter, will be more appropriate for the > marriage. > > But, if we consider the Virgo, maximum possible progressive degree is 69. > Because, Sun is in 21 Cn 04. So, dividing this 69 by navamsa rate of 3.3333, > we get 20.7. I don't think he got married in 21st year of age. If we > consider minimum possible degree for Scorpio it is 99. The year of > progression is 99/3.3333 = 29.7 . > > 30 years is too long. I expected the progression should match with the > trinal position of Jupiter. But, that is too far at 26 Sc 08, which will Why Jupiter? Why not upapada or vivaha saham or 7th lord or Ketu? > happen in 37th year. I looked at Shri lagna, which is falling at 14

Pi 14. > (I am not sure of my calculation) This is also at the age of 34. So, this is > also not correct. > > I am not convinced myself for any position in Libra. Because, Libra is > eighth house second from 7th house. Rahu Saturn aspects it. So, I am > confused to give an answer to this exercise. See where vivaha saham is. Find upapada. Then Libra will not look that bad. When finding upapada, you have to take the stronger of Saturn and Rahu. Rahu is the stronger lord of Aq here, as Saturn is in own sign (Sanjay himself made this point about this chart once). Another factor is Ketu. Ketu gives marriage. Especially here, he is the 9th lord (dharma). So he is also important. Progressed Sun or Moon can be in trines to him. Vivaha saham is also an important point here, being in upapada. Now try again. > I need to study more by casting a new chart with the progressed Sun > period. > > Thanks > > Your sisya > > Solai Kannan May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

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--====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===------ Original Message ----From: Narasimha Rao To: varahamihira@egroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:03 AM Subject: [Sri Guru] LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish Dear Jyotisha, Sanjay told me to send a lesson on progressions after I discussed that topic w ith him on the phone. I request Sanjay and other gurus to correct any mistakes i n this lesson, as I am not an expert in using progressions. Kindly keep this lesson within SJVC. Don't mention this to outsiders (let Sanj ay or other gurus handle it). The reason is that this is a sensitive topic. Many traditional pundits will frown at you if you mention progressions to them. They do not consider them Vedic. Their reason is that Parasara did not teach progres sions (atleast in the parts of BPHS available today). However, Manu taught them in Manu Smriti and he is also a respected authority. In fact, some rudimentary t echniques taught by Manu seem to have been retained in western astrology. If you talk about progressions to outsiders and do not handle it well, there will be c onfusion, controversy and chaos. On the other hand, progressions used in western astrology are not based on com plete and correct knowledge. Because the real philosophical meaning of progressi ons was lost in the west, several mistakes have crept into their usage. If you t alk about progressions in public and if you are not careful enough, you may end up spreading wrong notions. So leave it to Sanjay and other gurus. Discuss this knowledge only within SJVC. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------------LESSON 13: USING PROGRESSIONS IN JYOTISH (c) 2001 by SJVC [To be kept within SJVC] By P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, Jyotish Guru February 5, 2001 I prostrate before Lord Ganesa, Lord Jagannatha, Sri Achyuta Dasa and Pt. Sanj ay Rath and share my little knowledge of progressions with the fellow students o f SJVC. Time is a relativistic concept. One day in the life of Gods is equivalent to o ne year in the life of human beings. We have various relativistic times taught i n Manu Smriti that we can use to see the experiences of soul. We know that Sun f inishes one cycle across the zodiac in one human year. If we take that time to b e equivalent of one divine day or 3 divine days etc, we can understand various e xperiences of atman (Sun stands for atman or soul). We can progress Sun by one u nit in various divisional charts to see the experiences of soul in the area rela ted to that divisional chart. For example, each dasama is 3 degrees. Experience of soul in this life begins at birth. We start with birthchart and progress Sun by 3 degrees (one dasamsa) i n each human year and this gives the experiences of soul in the area of karma (a ctions in society). If we progress Sun by 3.3333 degrees (one navamsa) in each h

uman year, it gives the experiences of soul in the area of dharma. We can use on e siddhamsa (1.25 degrees) per year to see the experiences of soul in the area o f knowledge. We can use one vimsamsa (1.5 degrees) per year to see the experienc es of soul in the area of upasana (religious worship activities). When we say "per year" above, we mean the standard solar year used in rasi das as. Time of human beings is also measured in terms of Sun's motion. Time of huma n beings is measured in terms of the motion of Sun as our naked eye (or a telesc ope) perceives. Time scales to be used when analyzing the experiences of soul in various areas of life are different as already mentioned. * * *

EXAMPLE 1: Let us say someone was born in 1961 with Sun at 24Sc45. Suppose we are looking at a day in 1993 with Sun at 24Le45. Suppose we need the progressed position of Sun using Siddhamsa (D-24) and Dasamsa (D-10). Let us see how many human years have passed since birth. When Sun reaches 24Sc 45 in 1993, it will be exactly 1993-1961=32 years. But we are taking a day when Sun is at 24Le45. This is 90 degrees (3 months or 0.25 year) earlier. So the exa ct human years passed are 32-0.25=31.75. If we use Sidhamsa progression of Sun, Sun progresses by one siddhamsa=30/24 d eg=1.25 deg per human year. So the progression amount is 31.75x1.25 = 39.6875 de grees = 39 deg 41.25 min. Adding this to the natal position (24Sc45), we get 4 d eg 26' 15" in Cp. We find the date and time when Sun reached this position in Ja nuary 1962 and take the positions of all the planets. These positions are the pr ogressed positions based on siddhamsa progression. Though the native is living i n 1993 with Sun having moved by more than 31 cycles across the zodiac, the exper iences of the soul in the matter of learning are influenced by the positions on Jan 17, 1962. Using dasamsa progression of Sun, progression amount in 31.75 years = 31.75x3 = 95.25 degrees = 95 deg 15 min. Adding this to the birth position of Sun, we ge t 0Pi0. Sun is at that position on March 14, 1962 after birth. Though the native is living in 1993 with Sun having moved by more than 31 cycles across the zodia c, the experiences of the soul in the matter of karma are influenced by the posi tions on March 14, 1962. * * *

Using the progression of interest, find the progressed position of Sun for the required day & time and find the day & time after birth when Sun was physically at the progressed position. Find the physical positions of all the planets on t hat date & time. This chart is called the progressed chart. EXAMPLE 2: Consider the following natal chart Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: April 4, 1970 17:48:20 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 81 E 12' 00" 16 N 15' 00"

Let us find the native's progressed chart based on dasamsa on October 7, 2000 at 10:39:24 pm (IST). You can see that the Tajaka monthly chart of the 7th month of the year 2000-01 starts at the time mentioned. So 30.5 years have passed sin ce birth. Using dasamsa (3 deg) per year, progression amount is 30.5x3=91.5 deg. Natal Sun on April 4, 1970 is at 20 Pi 52' 33.73". Adding 91.5 deg, we get 22 G e 22' 33.73". We find out the date & time when Sun entered this position roughly

after 91.5 days from birth. The data of the progressed chart is given below: Progressed (3 deg): Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: July 8, 1970 15:15:15 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 81 E 12' 00" 16 N 15' 00"

You can feed this data into JHLite and find the planetary positions. That will be the progressed chart for October 7, 2000 at 10:39:24 pm (using dasamsa progr ession). * * *

Sun shows atman (soul) and Moon shows manas (mind). Those two are the most imp ortant planets in progressed charts. Sun and Moon in a progressed chart show the soul and the mind having an experience in a relativistic time space. Soul has n o emotions, no happiness and no sorrow. It only has experiences. But mind has ex periences, emotions, happiness and sorrow. When progressed Sun and Moon touch im portant natal positions or trines from them, important experiences come to the s oul and the mind. By important natal positions, we mean natal planets, natal sah ams, natal padas etc. A few practical examples may clarify this better. * * *

EXAMPLE 3: Let us guess when the native of example 2 got married. Sun is roughly at 21 deg in Pi. The key positions related to marriage are 7th house, 7th lord, upapada and upapada lord. Here the 7th lord Jupiter is around 1 0 deg in Li and upapada is also in Li. Sun's progression in Li or trines is a go od candidate. Of these, progression in Ge comes at the right age. Let us see whe n progressed Sun is around 10 deg in Ge (trine to Jupiter). Let us take Sun's na vamsa progression to see the experience of soul in the matter of dharma. Sun has to progress by 9 deg in Pi + 60 deg in Ar & Ta + 10 deg in Ge. The req uired progression amount is 79 degrees. At the rate of 3.3333 deg per year, this is 79x3/10=23.7 years. So we can expect marriage marriage in the 24th year. The native got married on the night of August 1, 1993 (24th year!). The progre ssed chart has Sun at 8Ge36 and Moon at 9Aq34. In the natal chart, 7th lord Jupi ter is at 9Li45. Both Sun and Moon are in trines to this in the progressed chart ! EXAMPLE 4: Let us guess one important period in which the native started recit ing a mantra. The 5th house shows one's devotion and bhakti. However bhakti and devotion liv e inside oneself and they relate to the true self. They cannot be seen or felt b y the rest of the world. The world perceives one's bhakti based on the mantras o ne recites and the rituals one performs. So mantra pada (arudha of 5th) shows th e manifestation and maya related to devotion. For recital of mantras, it is the most important factor. The 5th house is in Cp and 5th lord Saturn is in Ar. So mantra pada (A5) is in Ar. Mars is the lord of A5 and he occupies A5! So Mars is an important planet f or mantras. Being in 8th, he shows dedicated and disciplined sadhana of mantras. In D-20 also, he is in the 5th house and aspects A5.

Mars is at 26 deg 40 min in Aries. So the progression amount needed is 9+26.6= 35.66 deg. Using vimsamsa progression (1.5 deg per year), this corresponds to 35 .66/1.5=23.8 years. After 23.8 years from birth, vimsamsa-progressed Sun touches natal Mars. We can expect the soul to experience something related to disciplin ed sadhana of a mantra (8th house, A5 and A5 lord) at an age of 23 years 9-10 mo nths. On 28th Jan 1994, The native started reading goddess Lakshmi's 108 names 108 t imes on Fridays. EXAMPLE 5: Let us take A.B. Vajpayee. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: December 25, 1926 5:12:25 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 78 E 10' 00" 26 N 13' 00"

He became India's PM in March 1998. There was some turbulence initially and he suffered a setback in April 1999 and won again in October 1999. After some phys ical troubles, he started enjoying his power in late 2000. There was a marked ch ange in his spirits after the surgery. Let us see if it makes sense based on das amsa progression. Let us take the chart for Dec 25 2000, i.e. after 74 years. Progression in 74 years is 74x3=222 deg. Natal Sun is at 9 Sg 35' 55". Adding 222 deg (i.e. 7 sign s and 12 deg), we get 21 Cn 35' 55". If you search for the natal positions near this, you will find GL (ghati lagna - seat of power and authority in a chart) at 21 Cn 25! In Oct-Dec 2000, progres sed Sun (as per dasamsa progression) exactly touched natal GL! So he may have st arted truly enjoying power then. Of course, even in the few years surrounding this, progressed Sun has contact with GL and the native will have some power. EXAMPLE 6: Let us take a native with the following birthdata and consider his dasamsa progression. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: August 20, 1944 7:11:40 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 72 E 49' 00" 18 N 58' 00"

In the natal chart, several planets are maha yogadas. Of all the planets, Sun is Kevala Maha Yogada and the most powerful yoga giver. So when progressed Sun t ouches a trine from himself, we can expect great power. A progression amount of 120 degrees (exact trine) corresponds to 120/3=40 years. So, around the age of 4 0 years, we can expect great power! This is Rajiv Gandhi's chart. In October 1984, he suddenly became India's Prim e Minister when his mother was assassinated. EXAMPLE 7: [This analysis is directly from Sanjay.] Consider the native in example 2 again. Consider dasamsa progression of Sun. S un activates natal Saturn at an age of 8.1 years (distance between natal Sun and Saturn is 24.2 deg and 24.2/3=8.1).

The 2nd house shows eyesight. The trines from a house show its prosperity. In particular, the 9th house from a house shows its protection (dharmo rakshati rak shitah). So the 10th house and its lord are the protectors of eyes. Here Mercury is the 10th lord and he is in infancy. He is afflicted by debilitated 6th lord Saturn and this shows problem in eyesight due to weak muscles (Saturn shows musc les). Saturn in a fiery sign shows aalochaka pitta too. Basically Saturn is the main troublemaker for eyesight. In fact, eyesight problems started in Saturn das a. Sun's progression over Saturn activated karma that resulted in poor eyesight. At an age of 8, the native used to read books without proper lighting and his ey esight weakened. * * *

Attempt these exercises using only progressions and no other techniques. EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: November 19, 1917 23:03:00 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 81 E 52' 00" 25 N 28' 00"

Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. Find the n atal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind of results are poss ible in career? Progressed sun is close to Ghati Lagna, exalted in 10th house, squaring natal jupiter. opposite jalapatana . 10th lord venus is in the 9th in exact trine to 1 2th ruler mercury in the 5th so travel and promotions may be involved, possibly involving govt work as 5th house is involved in exchange with 2nd ruler sun who is now in 12th. EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: August 7, 1963 21:14:50 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 83 E 58' 00" 21 N 27' 00"

Guess approximately when he got married. At 37, since the sun encounters 7th ruler too young. The next trine is to upap ada lord at 37. However there was also an opportunity around 19 when sun opposed upapada lord, but it was in a sign with mars in the 7th, so this may not have a ctually happened. --------------------------------------

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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : SanjayPrabhakaran@Netscape.Net <SanjayPrabhakaran@Netscape.Net> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 7 2001 ., 6:36:33 : [Sri Guru] Re: LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-Shree Laxmi ganeshaya namah Pranaam Gurudeva and Narasimha, Here is my attempt on the lesson. > EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. > > Date: November 19, 1917 > Time: 23:03:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 81 E 52' 00" > Latitude: 25 N 28' 00" > > Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. > Find the natal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind > of results are possible in career? Sun's Deg on birth = 4'06" Sc Sun's Deg on 26Jun1975 = 10'58" Ge Total Years past uptil 26Jun1975 is 57.593 Years (Sun degrees traversed x 365.2425) Dasamsa sun's progression = 57.593x3=172.779= 172' 47" Dasamsa Sun Position = 172.779 + 4'06"Sc = 26' Ar 53". Aries has GL ,AL and is 10th house Also it is in trines to 10th lord mars so the native may have got a big position and fame(AL) > > > > > > > > > > > EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: August 7, 1963 21:14:50 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 83 E 58' 00" 21 N 27' 00"

Guess approximately when he got married. --------------------------------------

For Marriage I am considering Upapada and it's lord, 7 house and it's lord Vivaha Saham Ketu Upapada=Li UL Lord Ve=14Cn55 7th House = Vi 7th lord= 13Le22 Vivaha Saham= 25Li56 Ketu=25'45"Sg When Navamsa progression of sun passes thru trines of above points I could guess a marriage. Natal Sun = 21Cn04 Reject Cn(Trine to Jup),Le(Trine to UL) as it would be too early. Next consider Virgo. It would enter virgo when in (8.93+30+30)= 68.93 Degress divide by 3.33. So could get married at 20.68 Age. And will be in Virgo until 29.70 Age(8.93+30+30+30) Can I measure the entire transit it Virgo? Next Libra Upapada (8.93+30+30+30) 29.70 Age Vivaha Saham (8.93+30+30+30+25'56")=124.86 124.86/3.33=37.49 Years Too late so rejected So most chance could have been married around 1993 Jan Question --------I have a question. Most divisional chart's houses are equally divided except Trimsamsa (am I right?). Do we do the same kind of progression even for trimsamsa i.e 30/30 = 1 Deg progress. Yours' Sincerely S.Prabhakaran

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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : pvr@mediaone.net <pvr@mediaone.net> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 7 2001 ., 8:02:21 : [Sri Guru] Re: LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-Dear Prabhakaran, Excellent answer. I will make some comments. > Shree Laxmi ganeshaya namah > > Pranaam Gurudeva and Narasimha, > > Here is my attempt on the lesson. > > > EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. > > > > Date: November 19, 1917 > > Time: 23:03:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Longitude: 81 E 52' 00" > > Latitude: 25 N 28' 00" > > > > Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. > > Find the natal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What > kind > > of results are possible in career? > > Sun's Deg on birth = 4'06" Sc > Sun's Deg on 26Jun1975 = 10'58" Ge > Total Years past uptil 26Jun1975 is 57.593 Years > (Sun degrees traversed x 365.2425) > Dasamsa sun's progression = 57.593x3=172.779= 172' 47" > Dasamsa Sun Position = 172.779 + 4'06"Sc = 26' Ar 53". > Aries has GL ,AL and is 10th house > Also it is in trines to 10th lord mars > so the native may have got a big position and fame(AL) The exact progression over natal GL was over a little earlier. So the power may have come earlier. There is a saham at 27 deg in Libra. See what it is! The native was at cross-roads. The native enjoyed a position of power and did karma that later triggered a reaction. The saham has a clue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: August 7, 1963 21:14:50 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 83 E 58' 00" 21 N 27' 00"

Guess approximately when he got married.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> -------------------------------------For Marriage I am considering Upapada and it's lord, 7 house and it's lord Vivaha Saham Ketu Upapada=Li UL Lord Ve=14Cn55 7th House = Vi 7th lord= 13Le22 Vivaha Saham= 25Li56 Ketu=25'45"Sg When Navamsa progression of sun passes thru trines of above points I could guess a marriage. Natal Sun = 21Cn04 Reject Cn(Trine to Jup),Le(Trine to UL) as it would be too early. Next consider Virgo. It would enter virgo when in (8.93+30+30)= 68.93 Degress

Why two thirties? From 21Cn04, 8.93 deg will take it to the start of Leo. Then 30 deg will take it to the start of Virgo. You are adding an extra 30 deg (9 years). > divide by 3.33. So could get married at 20.68 Age. > > And will be in Virgo until 29.70 Age(8.93+30+30+30) Again, it should be less by 30 deg. So recalculate and probably you will find something acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I measure the entire transit it Virgo? Next Libra Upapada (8.93+30+30+30) 29.70 Age Vivaha Saham (8.93+30+30+30+25'56")=124.86 124.86/3.33=37.49 Years Too late so rejected So most chance could have been married around 1993 Jan Question --------I have a question. Most divisional chart's houses are equally divided except Trimsamsa (am I right?). Do we do the same kind of progression even for trimsamsa i.e 30/30 = 1 Deg progress.

Yes. If we progress Sun by 1 deg per year (one thrimsamsa per year), it shows misfortunes and setbacks. This is what many western astrologers use. They retained only D-30 based progressions.

In India, some traditional pandits use 3 deg progressions only and some use 2.5 deg progressions only. D-10 is important as shows our karma in this life. D-12 is important as it shows how karma of past manifests now. However, we can have progressions based on various divisional charts and we should see relevant matters in them. > Yours' Sincerely > S.Prabhakaran May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Do you know the name you want? Enter the domain name below and press GO!www. OM TAT SAT Archive:http://www.egroups.com/group/varahamihira Info:http://www.egroups.com/group/varahamihira/info.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : Solai Kannan <solai@theihb.com> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 7 2001 ., 10:26:22 : [Sri Guru] LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Narasimha, Thanks for your feed back. Yes. I made mistake in Gurudeva's chart. I didn't look at the co-lordship, I took what is appearing in the JHL. It is my mistake. As you said, now, UL and Vivaha seham are in Libra. Vivaha seham is at 26 Li 00. So, Sun progressed on this point at the age of 28.48 years as per Navamsa progression. (i.e. 26 Li 00 minus 21 Cn 04 = 94.9333 ; 94.9333/3.3333 = 28.48) 28 years, 5 months and 23 days. Adding this to the birth time the probable date of marriage will be around 30th January 1992. But, when I cast the progress chart with Sun at 26 Li 00, (i.e on 12th Nov 1963), Non of Sun and Moon are in trines to Ketu. Please, clarify. Regarding Exercise 1. Strife seham is exactly at 26 degree 59 minutes in Libra, which is exactly opposite to the Sun's progression on 26th June 1975 (i.e at 26 Ar 54). So,

strife occurred due to the acquired power or using the power. So, shall we consider 7th position in addition to trines? Thanks Your sisya Solai Kannan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : Solai Kannan <solai@theihb.com> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 7 2001 ., 11:37:30 : [Sri Guru] Query - LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Narasimha, I applied this to my chart for the marriage. But, I am unable to find any relevance of the date of the marriage to the important marriage favouring points. I give below the chart for reference. My marriage was on 21st October 1991. Sun's Navamsa progression at this date is 89 degree 43 minutes Calculation: 26 years 11 months = 26.916667 26.916667 x 3.333333 = 89.72 = 89 degree 43 minutes. = 2s29.43 Sun's position is 7s5.41 So, 2s29.43+7s5.41 = 10s5.24 = 5 Aq 24 1.My Vivaha seham is 22 Sc 21, which is not in trines or opposite. 2.UL lord (both in Rasi Navamsa) Jupiter is not in trine or in opposite. 3.7th lord is Sun, it is also not in trine or opposite 4.7th lord in Navamsa is Mars. Sun's progression is opposite to Mars, but the longitude is not exact or nearer. Question 1. What is wrong with my working? Question 2. Regarding this progressions, how far we can use this in predictive astrology? Question 3. I think we have to consider only the progression of sun on particular point (or very nearer) and its trines or opposite. The 'particular points' can be Natal positions, seham, special lagnas. Is my understanding correct? What are the other 'important points' other than these to be considered? Question 4. In Example 7. For eye sight problem Gurudeva has considered dasamsa progression, in the sense that it is due to a karma or action which lead to the poor eye sight. (a), how do we know that it is due to this

karma? firstly, there is no proven correlation in your case. secondly, how when some body come with an eye problem, we will decide it is due to a karma or body composition? (b) this way we can correlate anything; the effect of something will be the cause of some action or karma. So, is it advisable to consider dasamsa progression for everything? Question 5. In hora progression within 24 years, Sun's one cycle of progression will be completed. So, the next progression will touch all the points again in another 24 years. This identical happening is not practical. So, the chart on the time of progression on certain point is important. But, you didn't go into the details of analysing the progression chart. When you have time please, elaborate on the interpretation of the progression chart. I know it will be similar to any other chart analysis. But, if you can do it with example it will help us. Question 6. Can this be extended to non Parasara vargas like, D-5, D-6, D-8? Thanks Your sisya Solai Kannan

Date of Birth: Time of Birth: Time Zone of Birth: Longitude of Birth: Latitude of Birth:

November 21, 1964 1:35:35 pm 5:30 East of GMT 78 E 50 9 N 23

Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 25 Sun 5 Moon 29 Mars 14 Mercury 25 Jupiter (R) 26 Venus 2 Saturn 5 Rahu 0 Ketu 0 BhavaLg 26 HoraLg 17 GhatiLg 21 Aq Sc Ta Le Sc Ar Li Aq Ge Sg Aq Ge Ta 36 41 07 20 09 37 04 19 46 46 36 51 33 Poo.Bhaa. 2 Anuradha 1 PK Mrigasira 2 AmK Poo.Pha. 1 PiK Jyeshtha 3 MK Bharani 4 BK Chitra 3 DK Dhanishtha 4 GK Mrigasira 3 AK Moola 1 Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aardra 4 Rohini 4 -

+-------------------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | GL | Rah | | | JupR | | | | | | Moo | HL | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Sat | | | | | | | | Asc | | | | | | | | BL | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | Glk | | |

| | | Mar | | Mnd | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | Sun | | | | Ket | | Ven | | | | Mer | | | | | | | | +-------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | Asc | | | HL | Ket | | Mnd | | | | BL | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mer | | | | | | GL | | Glk | | | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | | | | | | | Mar | | | | | | | | Sun | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | JupR | Rah | | | | | | Moo | | | Sat | Ven | | | | | | | +-------------------------------------------------------+

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Here is my answer to the lesson 13, with your hints to Solai and Prabhakaran. EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: November 19, 1917 Time: 23:03:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Longitude: 81 E 52' 00" Latitude: 25 N 28' 00" Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. Find the natal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind of results are possible in career? Total years he passed from date of birth Dasamsa progressoin *3 si Natal eg Total 26 22 Deg 48 Sec possition of Sun 06 Sec Deg 54 Sec = 26 A ries 54 Sun transit over above possition on 11th May 1917, arround 03. AM, when Pisces rise with Sun in Aries conjoined Jupiter and Mars. I like to list all sensitive points (within in 5 deg) as follows. Kali Saham Gati Lagna Bandana Saham UL & AL 27 Li 00 24 Ar 09 23 Li 12 Aries 7th from Sun Conjoined sun 7th from Sun Conjoined Sun 57.06 172.80 = 5 Ra = 7 Rasi 04 D =12 Rasi

From Above most close point to progressed Sun's degree is Kali Saham in 4th hous e. In addition A6 and A8 in the 4th house.In this said date Moon too trine to the Sun but conjo ined Rahu. So the event is not a happy event. Same possition can seen in Natal c hart as well. The progressed Moon is in 6th and conjoined Rahu and Venus. The af fliction of Moon in both Natal chart and Progressed chart bring sorrow to the Na tive. Sun (6th lord- enemies) conjoined Mars (2nd lord,Maraka & karaka for accid ent) conjoined lord of the lagna Jupiter in progressed chard. 1. He loose his power and aouthotiry- Kali Saham is opposed to the GL 2. Accident, Death or Death like situation and/ or enemy problem. Jupiter conjoined sun in progressed chart 3. Death or death like situation to his farther. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: August 7, 1963 Time: 21:14:50 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 83 E 58' 00" Latitude: 21 N 27' 00" Guess approximately when he got married. Marriage can be expected when progressed Sun in trine to UL, lord of the UL, 7th house, lord of the 7th house, Vivaha Saham. In this chart Libra is more qualified as Libra, having Vivaha Saham, uppada and (lord of the UL and Vivahasham) Venus is in Dara Pada and is Natural Karaka for dara pada. Vivaha Saham is 25 Deg 56, and Chara Darakaraka Rahu and lord of the A7 Moon is in trine to this point. So this point is very very sensitive. Sun must be progressed (8.55+60+25.56) 94.51 deg. at the rate of 3.20 deg. per y ear (D9 progression) to touch this point in first time. It was around 94.51/3.33 3=28.4553 years This is equal to 28 years 5 months and 13 days. Adding this to the birth day, co mes mid of January 1992. Adding progressed Sun's degree (94.51) to Natal Sun's position we get 25 Libra 5 5. Sun come to this point on 12th of November 1963 at about 2.45 PM. The chart f or this time is strange as Pisces rising and it is almost close to natal chart. Moon is in 7th over Mars (2nd lord- Family) is a positive point. How ever the ma rriage could be taken the place when Moon is in Cancer or Scorpio as well. That means few days before 12th or after. I am looking for others comments as well. Hare Krshna Karu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660@compuserve.com> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 7 2001 ., 15:40:38 : Fw: [Sri Guru] LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===------ Original Message ----From: Nimmi Ragavan To: varahamihira@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Sri Guru] LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish Exercise 1 - as the sun contacts Vidya Saham in Libra, it could relate to an aca demic promotion? Attempt these exercises using only progressions and no other techniques. EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: November 19, 1917 23:03:00

Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude:

5:30:00 (East of GMT) 81 E 52' 00" 25 N 28' 00"

Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa progression. Find the n atal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind of results are poss ible in career? Progressed sun is close to Ghati Lagna, exalted in 10th house, squaring natal jupiter. opposite jalapatana . 10th lord venus is in the 9th in exact trine to 1 2th ruler mercury in the 5th so travel and promotions may be involved, possibly involving govt work as 5th house is involved in exchange with 2nd ruler sun who is now in 12th. EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. Date: Time: Time Zone: Longitude: Latitude: August 7, 1963 21:14:50 5:30:00 (East of GMT) 83 E 58' 00" 21 N 27' 00"

Guess approximately when he got married. At 37, since the sun encounters 7th ruler too young. The next trine is to upap ada lord at 37. However there was also an opportunity around 19 when sun opposed upapada lord, but it was in a sign with mars in the 7th, so this may not have a ctually happened. --------------------------------------

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Very good! Here are a couple of small comments. > Jaya Jaya Jagannath, > Namasthe Narasimha, > > Here is my answer to the lesson 13, with your hints to Solai and Prabhakaran. > > > EXERCISE 1: Consider a native with the following birthdata. > Date: November 19, 1917 > Time: 23:03:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 81 E 52' 00" > Latitude: 25 N 28' 00" > Find the progressed Sun on June 26, 1975 using dasamsa > progression. > Find the natal planets/lagnas/sahams closely touched by him. What kind > of results are possible in career? > > > Total years he passed from date of birth 57.06 > Dasamsa progressoin *3 172.80 > > = 5 Rasi 22 Deg 48 Sec > Natal possition of Sun = 7 Rasi 04 Deg 06 Sec > Total =12 Rasi 26 Deg 54 Sec > = 26 Aries 54 > > Sun transit over above possition on 11th May 1917, arround 03. AM, when Pisces rise with Sun in Aries conjoined Jupiter and Mars. > > I like to list all sensitive points (within in 5 deg) as follows. > > Kali Saham 27 Li 00 7th from Sun > Gati Lagna 24 Ar 09 Conjoined sun > Bandana Saham 23 Li 12 7th from Sun > UL AL Aries Conjoined Sun > > From Above most close point to progressed Sun's degree is Kali Saham in 4th house. In addition > A6 and A8 in the 4th house.In this said date Moon too trine to the Sun but conjoined Rahu. So the event is not a happy event. Same possition can seen in Natal chart as well. The progressed Moon is in 6th and conjoined Rahu and Venus. The affliction of Moon in both Natal chart and Progressed chart bring sorrow to the Native. Sun (6th lord- enemies) conjoined Mars (2nd lord,Maraka karaka for accident) conjoined lord of the lagna Jupiter in progressed chard. > 1. He loose his power and aouthotiry- Kali Saham is opposed to the GL > 2. Accident, Death or Death like situation and/ or enemy problem. NR: The native was enjoying power at that time. The native had many enemies as you wrote and there was a major setback before the given

date. But do you expect the native to lose power with progressed Sun so close to natal GL? What exactly does kali mean? Kali means vice, strife, anger etc. Does it show only strife faced by native or the strife caused by him too? Can he cause strife by his actions and experience turbulence as a result? > Jupiter conjoined sun in progressed chart > > 3. Death or death like situation to his farther. > > EXERCISE 2: Consider a native with the following birthdata. > Date: August 7, 1963 > Time: 21:14:50 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 83 E 58' 00" > Latitude: 21 N 27' 00" > Guess approximately when he got married. > > Marriage can be expected when progressed Sun in trine to UL, lord of the UL, 7th house, lord of the 7th house, Vivaha Saham. > > In this chart Libra is more qualified as Libra, having Vivaha Saham, uppada and (lord of the UL and Vivahasham) Venus is in Dara Pada and is Natural Karaka for dara pada. > Vivaha Saham is 25 Deg 56, and Chara Darakaraka Rahu and lord of the A7 Moon is in trine to this point. So this point is very very sensitive. > > Sun must be progressed (8.55+60+25.56) 94.51 deg. at the rate of 3.20 deg. per year (D9 progression) to touch this point in first time. It was around 94.51/3.333=28.4553 years > > This is equal to 28 years 5 months and 13 days. Adding this to the birth day, comes mid of January 1992. > > Adding progressed Sun's degree (94.51) to Natal Sun's position we get 25 Libra 55. Sun come to this point on 12th of November 1963 at about 2.45 PM. The chart for this time is strange as Pisces rising and it is almost close to natal chart. > > Moon is in 7th over Mars (2nd lord- Family) is a positive point. How ever the marriage could be taken the place when Moon is in Cancer or Scorpio as well. That means few days before 12th or after. NR: Why not Leo? Leo is a trine from exalted Ketu (9th lord) and it contains 7th lord Mercury. If progressed Moon enters Libra while progressed Sun is still close to vivaha saham, that should be fine too. Le, Vi and Li are all interesting. > I am looking for others comments as well. > > Hare Krshna > Karu May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Do you know the name you want? Enter the domain name below and press GO!www. OM TAT SAT Archive:http://www.egroups.com/group/varahamihira Info:http://www.egroups.com/group/varahamihira/info.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : pvr@mediaone.net <pvr@mediaone.net> : varahamihira@yahoogroups.com <varahamihira@yahoogroups.com> : 7 2001 ., 20:05:20 : [Sri Guru] Re: LESSON 13: Using Progressions in Jyotish : message.html --====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----====----===-Dear Solai, > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Narasimha, > > Thanks for your feed back. > > Yes. I made mistake in Gurudeva's chart. I didn't look at the colordship, I > took what is appearing in the JHL. It is my mistake. For now, don't rely on JHL for resolving co-lordships. > As you said, now, UL and Vivaha seham are in Libra. Vivaha seham is at 26 Li > 00. So, Sun progressed on this point at the age of 28.48 years as per > Navamsa progression. (i.e. 26 Li 00 minus 21 Cn 04 = 94.9333 ; > 94.9333/3.3333 = 28.48) > 28 years, 5 months and 23 days. Adding this to the birth time the probable > date of marriage will be around 30th January 1992. > > But, when I cast the progress chart with Sun at 26 Li 00, (i.e on 12th Nov > 1963), Non of Sun and Moon are in trines to Ketu. Please, clarify. Well, look at the example I gave for marriage (example 3 I think). The 7th lord Jupiter was in upapada at 9Li45. Marriage did not take place when Sun was exactly at 9Ge45 (trine). It took place when Sun was a degree earlier and Moon was at 9Aq50. So try a few months this way or that way. If progressed Moon is at a critical point at that time, marriage can take place. Exalted 9th lord Ketu, 7th lord Mercury and Mars in 7th are all very important. See if progressed Moon touches any of these (or 7th or trines)!

Moon is the dispositor of Venus and darapada and he aspects upapada and vivaha saham. His natal position is important too. > Regarding Exercise 1. > > Strife seham is exactly at 26 degree 59 minutes in Libra, which is exactly > opposite to the Sun's progression on 26th June 1975 (i.e at 26 Ar 54). So, > strife occurred due to the acquired power or using the power. > > So, shall we consider 7th position in addition to trines? Yes. > Thanks > Your sisya > Solai Kannan May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

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> As you said, now, UL and Vivaha seham are in Libra. Vivaha seham is at 26 Li > 00. So, Sun progressed on this point at the age of 28.48 years as per > Navamsa progression. (i.e. 26 Li 00 minus 21 Cn 04 = 94.9333 ; > 94.9333/3.3333 = 28.48) > 28 years, 5 months and 23 days. Adding this to the birth time the probable > date of marriage will be around 30th January 1992. > > But, when I cast the progress chart with Sun at 26 Li 00, (i.e on 12th Nov > 1963), Non of Sun and Moon are in trines to Ketu. Please, clarify. > > Regarding Exercise 1. > > Strife seham is exactly at 26 degree 59 minutes in Libra, which is exactly > opposite to the Sun's progression on 26th June 1975 (i.e at 26 Ar 54). So, > strife occurred due to the acquired power or using the power. Brilliant! I guess this is as good as one can get it, without knowing who the native is! This is very correct. > > > > > So, shall we consider 7th position in addition to trines? Thanks Your sisya Solai Kannan

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