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\\ \ t.ocatlori·~.\ ..FBI, Washington Field Office.

\\. \....J*rtici~~~\)~~~'on-Commission: Sean ~;N~i'1l2 Assistant General Counsel, FBI
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\~ \\\, Bac~e.r~~~~:1 !was hired by the~e~iitI987 as a GS-3 Mail Clerk, She

\ \firiish~(;lhigh s~h06J apd started, but did not graduate from~'S~ewart Business School, where
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lear:ni.!lg be a secreta~ .. Between 1987 .~d 1993',1 .'-'" .Jose through the following

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'posruons; Mall Clerk, Regular Clerk, Supply Technician, Receptionist.vmany other
administrative duties, ili:ltrl in 1993 she was promoted to Analyst. "

, \ \1\' ~Ppii~dtObl!:~ Analyst at the Northeastern Regional support'~~nt~r,iIIJ:1....

-Monmouth.New Jersey, wh.~ch.is an Informational Technology Center for the FBLL.Jerved
as a~ Analysr.there from 199~ until 1997. In 1997, she came to the WF:0 on TOY to assist in an
. espionage investigation and has stayed here ever since. At that time, she worked with the
Integrated Intelligence Infl?~a~ontEEliCatOn ~IA), a recently defunct (a~ of approximately
June, fD03) darabase/analytical tool, ontinues to be the only IRS'assIgned to the CI-14
squad (which hadpreviously ...been\N'S ..34 and CI-17 before that).

\upervis~b~ Transfe~~~d to\;n:TF/Gay Harrington's Squad. As of April, 2003, Gay

Harrington, the ssA. for the JIn, has been her supervisor. Before that, the supervisor of the
Particulatr9uadte\~aS assigned-to served as her supervisor, Gay Harrington will assign her
cases, bu indicated that shedid not ...notice much of a change in her work. The essential
difference is that now.she reports to-an additional supervisor. In general in the WFO, Agents go
to Gay Harrington for "~'ssistance, bud I~dicated that the Agents on her CI squad come
directly to her for help.] \. Indicated that li~r primary interaction with Gay Harrington is
every 90 days, when she lets Gay know what she is working on during the File Review process.
She also attends weekly m'~~although the substance generally does not pertain to her work.
Gay now also directly taskL.Jwith work as we~.~.

-._. When asked ab~ut'ili~ ~urpose of the transfe~J"-"""lndicated that "we were brou~~t in :

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':,to facilitate intelligence in aibetter manner." When asked to assess the progress, she indicated, :···.:.d.:.:·..
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that'ii'was, "~tnr-early~!and that "there ar~ growing.pains, but I think that it is starting to work."
\"" ····:::·>~,»",,"Idon't know-much about-what the other analysts do."

~\:::"\: Job DeSC;i;~iolq~~;k~oii:esPiOllllge matters, not International Terrorism ern.

\,'\. ""."\S.~~,,in4~catedthat she provides assistance on events':1 Iprovides damage assessments, threat
\..... anq 'telephone analysis, creates databases to manage information, and "a lot of different things."
..~\....... "~~-"s.ai~, tha~ her work products generally go to "different places." She creates Power Point
'\ \" pF~s~n~ti.Qns"tl)at are presented on Capital Hill (e.g., she mentioned that she had-put together
'\, .......such '~,pr~s~taiiQ!l on Brian Regan). When asked, she said that her analytical products go to
\, \, other. agencies.ln the intelligence community "eventually," but she couldn't describe how this
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..\. \\ ~h~ ~s~~'dJ 'J,tated that when she has "spare time" she tries to "see trends."
'J-IQwever,'·~he...indicated that she frequently has "six jobs," and therefore no spare time. In
Q\neraI, Shecon~u~''r~~earcii"itl,~e files" and "follows up on hits received in ACS."

, Her focus 1'~,on"·~.~any.~ne

''\ ...... selling U.S. national security information." She and the squad
sh~~works with 'willtalk '\¥ith"I:JQ to get-information on spy tradecraft - to do whatever they can
to ~il·~spionage~ ....Nine outof ten of her cases involve US goverrunent employees. "I don't
know much about \vhai-.the 'other>'analysts do." She said that "everyone is stretched thin," but
that ~~o~. we have ~~ktll( sih~,~ ~n-.~. """'-',
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lvorked ~ th~"'fI~en irryestigatio~'a~er his arrest. She has worked' on and
continues to, work on the ...Briah: Regan investigation. S~ reviews debriefing reports submitted to
.the HQ '~spi'~nage unit and the ·1\ffi.o."1 "J~aid that Ft.Monmouth translates taped reports: the
, .Agent se~~s out the tape and gets.back a transi;,rt andteri'd,eCides where to send it, When
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, .: asked if s~ would do a summary of a transcript said thar it depends on what it is and,
"who has ~\e ii.\e on that da y<,' \.\-. "
Acc~~s to'...Databases/Sohwar~J Isaid that she had access.to the following
databases: Ii..~A,Automated CaseSupport (ACS) system, Telephone Application, and her own
database created fr~~ous work, She also gets information by contacting fellow analysts at
Headquarters CHQ). L...J1ses Analyst Notebook, a software program, which.makes "nice
pictures for you~art:" ~he also u:~esPen Li~, which ~kes tel~phone nuriH~~rsand makes
. a chart for you. L-Jindlcated that they were getting a new system In December. I I.
mentioned the Zylndex and said that she has access to Intellink for specific things that she is
working on. and then her access is cut off when the case closes. She does not have access to the
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! Relationshiptwtth FBI Headquarters~"--"ndicated
that her relationship with HQ
i was "pretty good." Irithe past, the relationship ~y a "one way street," where information
! gets shared from WFO.,.to HQ, not vice versa. She said that frequently HQ Analysts will get
! "read i~to" the case and,that they then divide ~uties. In particulill:. falle[ ms;lUismed ~e
f . f~lI~;Ymg HQ Analysts: I J
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been no real change in uploading, a1though some information now is uploaded. She said that

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\. \::\ \" "g9ing on, 9 out of 10 times, the products are not uploaded. .'

"'1 ~as not done any !IRs. She said that the squad supervisor of fue operational squad
'\ \">'" does them. She said that she only works on "priority investigations," and that she doesn't
\" \ \ broadcast them. When asked, she said that she has not seen any !IRs. When asked about IIR
""" .quotasxshe said "I know there is one, but I don't think I'll get pressed to do one per week. It is a
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whole different animal. We do share that information that is for sharing. We share information
• Mterthe iIiv~~tigation. That is when it is made available to the intelligence community."

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emp oyee, S e ee stat coon matron IS not a problem and that the CIA
\~is usually pretty good atprocessing information. She follows the third-party rules. All of this
\.has beenvpretty much'? the.same sinceS/l l. The nature of her work dictates the sharing. "I
'don't know much about what-the other analysts do." When asked, she said that she has not seen
~y IIRs. .. '. """

\..... Since 9<1 i"r-laid thatinformation is shared more at the weekly meetings, that there
is more open dis~u~tween analysts, who are now in the same place and on the same
squad, She said that there is now more 'h~fonnation sharing with other analysts - before you
weren't supposed to share information with them and she didn't. Now it is "completely the

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opposite," but she said that this started to change even before 9/11. On the other hand, she said
that she only listens a~ the weekly meeting; she.does not discuss her, work .

.. \$he has ace : .\ ....,.., . . . for-her file. on her cases

(hard copies only). She said it would be helpful
if she di~\ She sai at such access may be proposed.

C~'~nges Since 9/1 ~J Indicated that many people feared that they would be moved
from counterintelligence (Cl) work to counterterrorism (CT) work and lose their expertise. She
said that infQrmation is shared more at the weekly meetings, thatthere is more open discussion
between analysts, who are now in the same place and on the samesquad. She said that there is
now more information sharing with other analysts - before you weren't supposed to share
information ~th them and she didn't. Now it is "completely the opposite," but she said that this
started to chan~~ even before 9/11. -.

When a~~ed whether the CI mission has lost ground to CT since 9/11'~'Dsaid "yes,
initially, but that espionage is still the #2 priority and is still there." She said, "we are focusing
on CT more; we can get pulled into it." She said the priorities have changed back and forth over
time. There is no b\~cklog in CI translations.

Patriot Act.") btated that the Patriot i\c~ has.made getting ~I~~s easier - less red
tape now. They still follow the letter of the law, though the law is less restrictive now. She said

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that every time she writes a FISA application~-f~a.ds~the Act. She said that she "hears from
others" that the burdens are lower and that it is-easier to "write it up." She said that everything

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moves morequickly since the Patriot Act. When asked to specifically identify the ways in which
things were made better or more efficient, she suggested that we just read the Patriot Act.

Training. When asked about traini~gJ lnentioned ANACAPA, a criminal-based

analyst training and stated, "analysis is analysis." She also said that she gets presentations on
~age investigations: W~~n ask~4·whether the. n:aining process has changed over time,
L........Ptated that "more IS available": and that now It IS mandatory that they attend 15 hours of
! trainmg per year. She said that this training could take many forms. She said that the last course
/ she took at the CIA was four ..years ago, on Terrorism.

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