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whole process so, when you have study was unthinkable because my the deIinitive clone genetically Iamily could not aIIord it. Besides, stable, it is duplicatedandkept saIe. as my Iather was an employee oI Those duplicates are called cell the University oI Navarra I was banks. given a scholarship, as long as I passed the exams. What are your next goals?, what projects are you already involved After working for several of the in? l a r g e s t p h a r ma c e u t i c a l The truth is that I can not say much. companies in the world, one day Our conIidentiality rules do not you decided to leave everything allowme to speak oI the therapeutic behind and return to Pamplona implications oI what we do, I can to run the 3P-project. Since you not tell you about products or started, just 7 years ago, you have customers. They are norms oI this made quite well. What else would sect or, but I can say t hat you like to achieve in the future? biotechnology research is working That 3P Pharmaceuticals reaches hard on Alzheimer, cancer ... i t s maxi mum capaci t y oI actually, the most eIIective production, oI work. We still have products on the market right now Iree space in our premises Ior more are biotech products. They are very labs and projects. We aspire to have a d v a n c e d i n t h e i r d r u g a signiIicant presence in the 3 or 4 development process and we hope best European companies in this soon t hey wi l l respond t o Iield, and to be a company oI therapeutic needs we have in our reIerence in the US. We are doing society. well, but we still have a long way ahead. ( ... ) We are proud oI the 3P Pharmaceuticals is a leading level we have reached in Navarra, company in the sector. What but our customers are not in have grown signiIicantly each year: advanced technological means do Navarra. Damaso graduated with a in the number oI employees, you use ? degree in Pharmacy and an presence in diIIerent countries, Here we make the API I told you As CEO of the company, what is Executive MBAdegree from importantance oI contracts already beIore. It allows our clients to do your role in it?, do you work the University of Aavarra signed, and all this has meant their clinical studies. But we are plenty in the lab? and has experience growth in turnover. I'm very happy, also qualiIied to prepare the (Thoughtful) I don't really know! but we have to growmuch more . spanning over 24 years in commerci al versi on oI t he (laughs). My task is to coordinate medicine iI any oI our customers and provide the experts the the chemico-pharmaceutical What do you you do here in 3P? asked us to do it in the Iuture. necessary resources to develop industry in the areas of Here we make t he Act i ve Currently we do not manuIacture their work. So I don't work much in Operations and Consulting Pharmaceutical Ingredient (API) drugs, but we will manuIacture the lab, although I am not very Iar in multinational companies Ior drugs. What we manuIacture them later on. The technology we Irom what happens there. For all like Claxo, Roche, Syntex are oI biotechnological nature, use is very sophisticated, along the lab investigation we have very made by biological means, not and Shionogi. His brilliant with more traditional tools used Ior highly qualiIied proIessionals Irom chemical. This means that we use hundreds years, such as those used diIIerent Iields. Biotechnology is a career has taken him to the living cells. I do not want to bore in the making oI bread or beer Ior transversal sector that is related to management of plants you, especially those who study example. What we do here is not so multiple specialties. No single thereby involving him in Arts, but we are a leading European diIIerent Irom what wine or bread university degree prepares you major research projects and biotechnology company with the maker s do; ever yt hi ng i s perIectly Ior what we do here. We engineering at the capacity and resources to develop Biotechnology. It is true that at need molecular investigators, both biological and cell therapy international level. some stage, such as when we need genetic biologists, chemical products according to international to make a quick evaluation oI a cell engi neers, bi ot echnol ogi st s, Afew years ago he decided regulatory requirements. Our work line, then we do need to use high chemists, biochemists, pharmacists to leave everything behind is custom manuIacturing oI technology. The combination oI , ... no one oI them can do the whole and return to Pamplona biologics Irom mammalian, yeast, what is best in each moment is what process, they must work together. where he joined the young and bacterial systems. These allows you to get the results you My job is to coordinate all areas, project he now leads: 3P biologics are developed Irom want. Anyway, there is a time when and Iind the Iinancial means, hire concept to commercial stages, Bioharmaceuticals sophistication is really important. the human resources we need, ... being able to adapt to regulatory This occurs when you enter the What is 3P Biopharmaceuticals? requirements Ior every phase. In 3P stage oI puriIication. At that time Here you create the active 3P (Production Plant Protein) is a Pharmaceuticals we oIIer an we use very highly sophisticated ingredient of the drug, drugs that c o m p a n y t h a t m a k e s i n t e g r a l a n d c o m p l e t e methods that allow us to achieve will save lives. Do you feel proud Biotechnology research, with a bioproduction service, with a wide the chromatographic purity we of that? very high level oI all the technician range oI related services to suit the seek. Here we don't have the big Very much. When a client brings us staII working here. We are a young demands oI our clients. Among robots you may see at Volkswagen, a project we know it can turn into a company with a long road ahead, other services are the generation oI although we have some small ones curative therapy . At that but we are already internationally expression systems, process that can work 24-hours Ior days and stage what we see are people recognized and we have signed development and optimization, days. suIIering, dying or with a very poor major contracts with leading generation and characterization oI quality because oI that companies in the sector. cell banks, Iormulation and We know you studied Pharmacy. disease. We knowthat this drug that stability studies. Why? did you like it as achild? we are beginning to develop could How do you feel about this Simply Ior two reasons. In heal them. OI course, we must international recognition to such What is a cell bank? Pamplona I didn't have the chance always wait until clinical trials tell a young company like this? It is not a money bank (he smiles). to study what I really liked. It was us iI we have been successIul. All I'm very pleased because the When a Iuture drug is still in the chemi cal engi neer i ng, and this gives us hope and pride. Maybe evolution has been very quick. We stage oI R&D, each time a certain one day oI liIe 0amaso Ho|ero Gene|o| Monoge| o 3P B|cpno|moceu|co|s "Our goal is to be a company of reference in the US" in 15 years time that medicine will and have made a lot oI money worked in a company or just that immoral or not?. Sure some cure the disease, but in the because they are smart and have anywhere. I learnt that those will say no, but it seems excessive, meantime you see howpeople keep managed to create a good business athletes deserve admiration, but although it is true that some on dying, perhaps even a relative oI policy. They have managed to Iind people who work Ior the wellbeing Iootball players generate proIits yours. Yes, we are proud when all customers, who were obviously not oI societydeserve it even more. and create jobs Ior many people. the process ends well! in Navarre. They have adapted, Yes, I think it is disproportionate. I have invested, have studied the We know you have worked would not compare him to the We are currently living in a time market, ... and in the end they are abroad and you had to use person with three majors and of crisis in the world. In Spain doing very well. What I want to tell languages. Do you think it is perhaps gaining a thousand euros, I money is being cut down on you is this, you are 15, you can do important a good knowledge of would like to compare him to other Health, Education, scholarships whatever you want with your liIe, Eglish? players who struggle to get to the and research. How has the crisis you can become just anything. You It is essential. English is the end oI the month, let's say the most affected yourbusiness? should be the only ones who put minimum. How are you doing in normal players. To me the point is It has aIIected us a lot. We are a limits to yourselves! Try new English? (Laughs) I don't say it's that people should be paid company that has required a lot oI challenges, do not let others impose important, it is essential: at least according to their results, not the Iunding Irom partners and banks. their limits on you! English. For example, here at 3Pwe amount oI work they do. Now, iI I This Iunding, which was very easy have 8 nationalities: Spanish, speak about the world oI science, I to get 7 or 8 years ago, it is nowvery think it's a shame that there are scarce. We can consider ourselves people who are highly qualiIied very lucky because we have not and must survive thanks to those lacked Iunding, but it has been me a g e r s c h o l a r s h i p s y o u necessary to think twice where to mentioned. Why don't we invest in invest and what expenses were science properly?. We do not invest really essential. We have noticed with an eye on the market, we put the crisis in our clients. In many the money on research grants and cases they are small businesses, and thesis, but never consider iI all that to start developing a project you work reaches the market. When need a Iewmillion euros, and today science development reaches the this is not easy to get. II our market, it generates beneIits and customers are not able to get that jobs. That investment is recovered Iunding they will never contact us. because the proIits are reinvested in Yes, we have noticed this a lot, Iurther research to pay better All jobs have their good and bad Colombian, American, Norwegian, especially with Spanish and researchers. This is what happens things. Which is which in your Serbian, English, Lithuanian and European clients. Just a couple oI in the U.S. A researcher in Spain work? Cubans -when you talk to them it is days ago a German company which who makes twenty-Iive thousand The bad part? I do not know ... I better to do it in English-. English is had a very attractive project with us euros a year might be making twice really enjoy my job, although it is essential. Most oI the meetings and has told us we had to stop because or three times that money in the true that, as in all businesses, there the reports we make are in English. theylacked Iunding. United States with the same work. are problems, disagreements, tough Today Ior example I had two video- But there there is an added moments ... but that's my job: to conIerences in English. English is You have told us about your component, there the researcher is sort them out and Iind a way out. not an option. You are now goals, but ... were they the same under pressure to get results, But this is oIten not our case Iinishing ESO, and you must Iinish when you were our age, or were publish his work, Iind someone because the people who work here with an Advanced level. Forget you more into playing football who buys his work ... in the end that are very committed and motivated. about parties and carpas (laughs), and scoring goals? (general work reaches the market. II you do I think there are many ways to iI you don't Iinish with an laughter ) not work well what you have is a overcome those things you do not Advanced level you are already Not at all. When I was your age I science world maintained by the like, you should always try to be losing your train. It is essential to thought the same as you: Iootball, State. It is not a question oI being positive and pleasant with others. I have that level. ( ... ) English is not mountain trekking, baseball, ... Iair or unIair, rather achieve a more am lucky, I Ieel very happy and an optionto you. girls (laughs). The only diIIerence I balanced system where we work comIortable with my work. have with you is the 40 year age more Ior results. What do you think when a person gap. Let's make it clear, you are not Did you have any model in your who has 3 university majors and worse than me, neither am I better 1ournalists: Adrian Bratu, It:iar mind when you started your a doctorate lives on a 1000f than you. Perhaps my only merit is Saen: and Iker Adalid work? scholarship, and a footballer that I have tried to use those 40 No, not at all. But let me tell you a makes 18 million a year? years to make interesting things Ior story that made me think. When I Think one thing, the Iootballer, you, your Iamily ... And as I said graduated I went to the Army, to do howmuch money has he generated beIore, I'm in Pharmacy just by the national military service. I had Ior his club? II you make your chance. But I believe everything to go to the Military Hospital in the company bill 50M euros, don't you happens Ior a reason. Canary Islands and there I had a think you deserve some oI that captain who was the Head oI the money? But I think you have to put Suppose I want to study Analysis Laboratory. We had a very things in their proper balance. Is chemistry, but this time of crisis good relationship. At that time were and cuts in research and science the Los Angeles Olympics oI 1984. discourages me and invites me to Spain had never won anything in quit studying. What would you athletics, but that year Abascal won do to encourage me to move the bronze medal. I came Irom the forward? world oI sports,so I liked to see (Thoughtful and then he asks each Abascal races on TV. When he won of us what we want to study) The the Olympic medal I spoke with the only thing I can say is that this crisis captain. I remember I said: "I would is circumstantial, and when it is have given anything to be the one over then there will be another, who had raced and won that medal perhaps even bigger ... this is in the Olympic stadium." The cyclical, it is not under our captain said. "Look Damaso, do not control.You have to be prepared Ior be fooled. Try to be that person who the circumstances and try to make spends all day at work, doing the most oI them. For example, science or research, and maybe one yesterday I was with a person who day has an idea he will turn into a is a manager in a company that real benefit to society." The makes parts Ior trains. Their message I got was that the projects last 12 years or more. In admiration I had towards Abascal this time oI crisis they have grown should be paralell to anyone who "You are 15, you can do whatever you want with your life, you can become just anything. You should be the only ones who put limits to yourselves! 1ry new challenges, do not let others impose their limits on you!"