1 - “ROGI” – “UNITED MACEDONIAN DIASPORA” BOARD MEMBER – MAKNEWS FORUM PARTICIPATION

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Rogi

Joined: 25 May 2006 23:57

Posts: 2510
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post subject: Re: Macedonia becoming union of nationalities

Posted: 05 Mar 2009 04:04

I hate to go off topic but...Paul, in response to your last post, the answer is: definitely not.

This (article above) is something we all need to fight against and reverse.

The Ohrid Agreement is one of the most treacherous documents in the history of the Macedonian people. Wth it, this process of
making Macedonia a nation of the 'citizens of Macedonia' rather than the Macedonian people (with rights for minorities) all
became a reality and we effectively began losing our country.

If the Republic of Macedonia is not the home OF the Macedonian people and FOR the Macedonian peopl, then what's the
difference between having an independent Macedonia and being occupied by another nation which grants minority rights?

There is only one Macedonian and that is the ethnic Macedonian.

There are citizens of Macedonia who can be Albanian, Turkish, Vlach, Roma, etc.

There can be citizens of Greece who live in the occupied part of Macedonia who may be Greeks, Vlachs, Pontians,
Albanians, etc.

There can be citizens of Bulgaria who live in the occupied part of Macedonia who may be Bulgarian, Turkish, Roma, etc.

There can be citizens of Albania who live in the occupied part of Macedonia who may be Albanian, Turkish, etc.

There can be citizens of Serbia who live in the occupied part of Macedonia who may be Serbian, Albanian, etc.

But NONE of them are Macedonians. They just live in Macedonia.

The only Macedonians are the ethnic Macedonians, who may live in Macedonia (all of) or anywhere in the world.

The term Macedonian is an ethnic term, not a geographical term.

I don't think I can be much clearer than that.

Read this: www.artofmacedonism.com

I assure you, that's what everyone involved at UMD's leadership level believes in and supports. That's what UMD is all
about.

There may be some small edits to that before it is finalised (it is a draft now, so if there's anything that should be in there, please
help us get it all right) and it will be published on UMD's site as well with an explanation that UMD works solely for the
Macedonian cause and only for the goals and objectives of the Macedonian cause - followed by what it views as the definition
of the Macedonian cause.

If anyone doesn't support and agree with any part of it, then they're not going to get to UMD's decision making levels
under any circumstance.

Our enemies have tried to infiltrate every single organisation because we have not been clear on what we are working hard and
uniting for.

This is one of the steps toward defining the purpose of our organisations and one small step toward preventative measures
against infiltration of our organisations.
3 - ALEKSANDAR MITRESKI – UMD VICE PRESIDENT – THE “ONLY” MACEDONIA IS DIVIDED

mitreski

Joined: 29 Oct 2008 13:10

Posts: 4
Location: Boston

Post subject: Re: UMD Says It Loud And Clear: "No Support For Name Change"
Posted: 22 Oct 2009 15:08

Paul

I was waiting to see how long will it take for you to publish that exchange between us. I purposely wrote some stuff up to see
how your "creativity" will twist things up.

Thank you for pointing out what I was trying to say. Nimitz is right, we do not have to negotiate and we shouldn't as I have said
it very clearly in my op-ed in the Macedonian paper Dnevnik "Ne treba da pregovarame za neshto shto e nashe". but I
am sure you will find a ways that even that was not clear enough.

You are making stuff up, you are lying, you are putting things in other people's mouths. Your vivid imagination somehow found
in that text that I was discussing historians, undermining Macedonian efforts, bla bla bla. You time is up. Stop making things up
and spinning things from one end to another. UMD works, you bullshit.

Пред Вистината и Боговите се НЕМИ!

For the readers of this board, can you tell us what have you done for Macedonia, other than trying to put down Macedonian
organizations?

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There is only one Macedonia, a divided one...
4 - ALEKSANDAR MITRESKI – UMD VICE PRESIDENT – DNEVNIK LETTER

TITLE: “WE SHOULD NOT NEGOTIATE FOR WHAT IS OURS”

(“NE TREBA DA SE PREGOVARA ZA TOA SHTO E NASHE”)

SIGNED: ALEKSANDAR MITRESKI, VICE PRESIDENT OF UNITED MACEDONIAN DIASPORA www.umdiaspora.org

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UMD 'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OFFICERS (GOOGLE CACHE) - NOVEMBER 7, 2009:

Metodija A. Koloski, President
Aleksandar Mitreski, Vice President
Michael A. Sarafin, Secretary
Denis Manevski, Treasurer
Ordan Andreevski, Director, Australian Operations
Jim Daikos, Director, Canadian Operations
Boban Jovanovski, Director, Policy Planning
Ivona M. Grimberg, Director, Economic
Development Program
Stojan Nikolov, Director
Aleksandra Trpkovska, Director, The Fund for
Macedonian Children
Igor Zvezdakoski, Director
Mark Branov, Editor, UMD Voice