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Tweet 8 Claude Arpis interview with Jagmohan, Former Governor of Jammu and Kashmir and Union Minister. $la%de: Sir, there are rumors that India and Pakistan will soon have a deal on Kashmir. As someone who has been twice governor, in 19! and in 199 and this in the most di""icult conditions, could #ou tell us how do #ou see the situation toda#$ Is there an# chance o" a breakthrough in the %eace %rocess$ Jagmohan: The basic point is: whatever arrangements will be made, these arrangements will not work if the fundamentalist forces remain in power and if they dictate the law by the virtue of the gun Take for e!ample the suggestion "from President #usharraf$ that they should be a %oint&rule, %oint management "of parts of the ' ( ) *tate$ +ll this sounds very big, but it does not mean anything If you and I are controlling the same place and if we differ, who is going to decide, who will have the final word, -ven elementary things like that are not clear in #usharraf.s proposal +nd what does it means /self&rule. If it means a /democratic rule., it is already e!isting in our part of )ashmir0 elections are regularly held and elected leaders form the government 1hat other /self&rule. do you want, /*elf&rule. does not mean that )ashmir can become independent +nd if )ashmir becomes independent, who is going to provide the money which is needed to run the government Take the e!ample of the Plan -!penditure "money allocated for development in the 2ive& 3ear Plan$, today it is 4556 financed by the 7entral 8overnment 1ednesday, 9: #ay 954; 4<:4= 7laude +rpi 5 7omments /+rticle >?5 is @ery #isconceived.: Interview with 'agmohan, 2ormer 8overnor of '() 141 Like Like 449 1 Google + 'Article 370 is Very Misconceived': Interview with Jagmohan, Former ... http://www.theindianrepublic.com/tbp/article-370-misconceived-inter... 1 of 8 5/28/2014 10:09 PM Between ;5 to ;A6 of the Bon Plan -!penditure "allocations outside the Plan to run the day to day e!penses$ are met by the 7entral 8overnment In case of /self&rule., nobody has made clear who will pay the bill $la%de: Kashmir is toda# the most subsidi&ed State in India' Jagmohan: The poorest tate in !ndia is "ihar, #ut toda$ Kashmir gets %% times more Central assistan&e than "ihar. If /self&rule. means self&sufficiency, all this support from the 7entral government will stop But the problem is that nobody, none of the )ashmiris leaders will tell you this If you ask them, they will say, Cthe finances will comeD, but they will remain vague That is for development Then Bon Plan -!penditure, the day to day e!penses like the salaries "of the government employees$ If tomorrow )ashmir is /de&linked. from India e!cept for -!ternal +ffairs, 7ommunications and Eefence, the finances will not be provided anymore The ne!t Fuestion is Cwho will pay,D 1ill the +mericans do it, Bobody is able to answer these Fuestions *ome say, India should continue to finance /self&ruled. )ashmir, but if tomorrow the /self&ruled. government declare themselves independent or an Islamic *tate, will India, a secular *tate continue to finance a theocratic *tate, There are so many contradictions in these proposals0 it is what people do not understand There are so many loopholes *o far is Pakistan concerned, it is not even a democracy "and they are speaking of /self&rule.$ $la%de: (oes sel")rule a%%lies also to *altistan, +ilgit and other %arts o" Kashmir occu%ied b# Pakistan$ Jagmohan: "#usharraf$ has not clarified this Today, "these areas$ are virtually a colony of Pakistan In PG), the President of Pakistan is the 7hairman of the *ecurity 7ouncil, of the Eevelopment 7ouncil and of the )ashmir 7ouncil The #inister for )ashmir +ffairs in Islamabad is the @ice&7hairman of these 7ouncils It means that all decisions are taken by Islamabad It is not like here in India where the elected 7hief #inister can take its own decision, there is not such thing in Po) "The problem is that$ nobody has gone into the nitty&gritty of these proposals $la%de: ,ould this means sel")rule "or -adakh and .ammu Jagmohan: Gn the Indian side, we have given an autonomous 7ouncil to Hadakh because of his special character It means that for certain sub%ects, whatever Hadakh decides, it is final 3ou can not "constitutionally$ go beyond this, but because of these arrangements, Hadakh is prosperous Their only grievance is that they want to get rid of the )ashmir *tate They want the status of Inion Territory whereby they will directly be linked with the 7entral 8overnment It is also a problem, because Hadakh has two districts, Heh which is Buddhist dominated and )argil which is *hia dominated Submit Not Now We welcome any feedback, questions or comments 'Article 370 is Very Misconceived': Interview with Jagmohan, Former ... http://www.theindianrepublic.com/tbp/article-370-misconceived-inter... 2 of 8 5/28/2014 10:09 PM The onl$ solution for all these areas of the 'alle$, Jammu, (ada)h is that we have to learn to live together and to learn to wor) for the so&ial and e&onomi& development of the tate. 1e should not waste our energies in ethnic issues If you look at ethnicity in the 'ammu ( )ashmir *tate, you will find so many ethnic groups 2or e!ample the shepherds in hilly areas can ask for a separate *tate, the people living in the mountains close to Jimachal Pradesh speak Pahari, a different language and they are racially different, they can ask for a separate *tate, same thing with the 'ammu people, or Pooch or Ra%auri area -ven on the Pakistan side, you have the #irpuri or people from 8igilt It is %ust like 3ugoslavia, the separation has only created havoc and bloodshed "In 'ammu ( )ashmir$, many small dictators will claim to the leadership of their own area and the economical development will suffer, the *tate will suffer, everybody will suffer I am against this0 people should learn to live together with their own differences *o far the *tate is concern, one should provide good governance, give %ustice to people, offer economic development 1hen I was in )ashmir the first time, I did a lot of developmental work and people forgot about article >?5 and other "political$ issues There was %ustice, the roads were built, everything was done and people were happy0 their attention was diverted from the narrow issues $la%de: I noticed recentl# in .ammu that Indian "irms can not invest in .ammu / Kashmir because o" the Article 012. 3ow to develo% in these conditions$ Jagmohan: +rticle >?5 is a very misconceived +rticle 2irst, it generates the feeling among )ashmiris that they are different "from the rest of India$ They believed: C1e are differentD This has created a separate psyche in )ashmir Then it benefits people who want the power like the +bdullah family0 they have e!ploited this +rticle, not allowing outside people to come to the *tate They have thus created their own sheikhdom I will tell you a story 1hen I was for the first time 8overnor in )ashmir, one day a fire erupted in an area of *rinagar I went to inspect the place, it was stinking, there was no sewage at all +fter some time, I sold in the same area a plot for a cinema which brought <5 millions rupees to the *tate I had opened the tender to outside parties from Eelhi and #umbai Bormally under +rticle >?5, it should have been restricted to local people, but we would have not got more than ; millions + friend of a politician would have bought it and eventually this /friend. would have entered into a lease agreement with the #umbai businessman and will have pocketed the difference The middle man would have got the benefit, not the *tate The local leaders started an agitation against me, because I was not respecting +rticle >?5 They came in a delegation, it included the people from the area were the fire had erupted Kand where there was no sewageL They told me that it is an infringement of +rticle >?5 I told them: CEo you understand what it means for you +rticle >?5,D They spoke of their self&identity I told them: CI went to your colony and it was stinking, yourself told me that you were living in hell, now with this <5 millions I will provide you with proper sanitation Eo you want sanitation or +rticle >?5,D They immediately understood Submit Not Now We welcome any 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