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Some Ideas Towards Postal 2: UDK.

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Postal 2: UDK is an ongoing remake of Postal 2 on Unreal Engine III developed by Polish developers.
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Too Many Weapons? NPC Weapons Menu and Occurrence.

I like to give the townsfolk a variety of likely weapons using the
AWPmod. Downside of this is the Postal Dude will pick all these up so
when you want a certain weapon you have to cycle through a score or
more. Throwing them away is slow since the list always resets to the start
and he just picks up the next example he comes across. I am beginning
to wonder if a system like Fallout 3 would be better so you can choose
what you pick up and carry?
A very welcome feature would be to have a sort of NPC weapons
menu. The AWPmod only partially meets this need. It does not
distinguish between different NPC classes so you get shopkeepers using
grenade launchers and police attacking with bows and frying pans!
Using an improved system you can set what weapons do and don’t
appear in the game and their frequency. For example, I might set a game
so there are no military weapons and the chance of pistols and shotguns

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is low for a more melee-based game, or set up a manic game where
everyone is packing automatics and rocket launchers. There would be
defaults of course:-military and terrorists would always have military
weapons as would a boss such as Krotchy. If you dislike a certain weapon
you can set it so that it never spawns.
Found Weapons.
Non-firearms in Postal UDK should have some context in their
location.
 Cleavers and Butcher Knives would be most likely to be found in
the Meat works.
 Axes in a shed or forest
 Shovels in the graveyard, coal warehouse and roadworks
 Baseball bats in homes or behind shop counters, but also in
parks etc....
Attention to Detail.
Running with Scissors (RWS) are actually very sloppy and this
explains why parts of the original game are flawed or shoddy. In the
original game the M16 has no sights and the Desert Eagle no rear notch!
Guns use magazines or belts, not “clips”. Get this right, it is not that
difficult!
Fix the Physics.
I went on a rampage in Paradise the other night. Physics of some
of the weapons are way off. Numerous times napalm canisters bounce
back at you further on a subsequent bounce than they were originally
fired. Scissors come flying straight back at you despite hitting a wall at an
angle. Were RWS deliberately rigging the game to hurt you or were they
just sloppy? (Probably the latter)
I noticed when playing Apocalypse Weekend that NPCs set on fire
need to move at random, not always towards the player. If anything they
should initially move away from the source of ignition. I had two
burning troopers both run 100 metres upstairs and make two right angle
turns towards me.
Make The World More Destructible.
Is it possible more items in the environment could be breakable
or you could be capable of interacting with? Saints Row 2 had lots of
things you could just pick up or rip out to throw or beat someone with.
Great feature but it didn't get used much since you had plenty of
firearms in that game and ammo was seldom a problem. Grabbing and
throwing people was also fun, although not sure how well that would
work in a FPS game?
It would be useful if you could fire through doors with some
weapons. Perhaps pistols and shotguns can penetrate light doors and
rifles through thin walls?
Weapons.
There will doubtless be numerous mods of weapons for Postal
2:UDK. The challenge is to give the basic game a useful variety while
keeping the quirkiness and originality of the original game.
Useful reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Arizona.
Fully automatic weapons and sawn-offs are legal in Arizona if the
tax-stamp is paid, numchukas are not!
Suggested Postal Weapons Part One: Handguns
Desert Eagles. It amuses me that the Desert Eagles are so
common in Postal 2. I see it as a sort of satire of the Hollywood movies
where these are used as carry guns. There should be lots of these in
P2:UDK so let’s have a variety! Chrome, stainless, gold, blued, black,
parkerized and black chrome. Possibly the Desert Eagles should not be
so wimpy as in the original game but not an instant kill every time either.
Perhaps an instant kill from a headshot of about 60-80%.
Glock 9mm. Not as powerful as the DE but with a bigger
magazine capacity. Favoured by gangstas.
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Beretta 9mm. As Glock, and favoured by military and police.
Priests wear a biretta, so should carry a Berettta.
Colt Python 4". This should be a signature weapon for the
Aggressive Panhandler Dude, a nod to the movie, such that it was.
Schofield Revolver. A unique handgun for nuns, a nod to the
movie “Nude Nuns with Big Guns”.
Stechkin APS. Low-powered and fully automatic handgun used
by Taliban instead of Desert Eagle (the Desert Eagle is an Israeli
weapon, after all!). This will probably be the weapon of female Taliban
and therefore produce a not particularly accurate but high volume of fire
to deal with, which will make things interesting.
Postal Weapons Suggestions, Part Two: Rifles.
The Original Postal 2 had just two rifles. One was a
hunting/sniping rifle, the other an assault rifle (often but erroneously
referred to as a “machine gun”).
According to imfdb.org the scoped rifle is a M24 SWS, but since
this is a rather rare and expensive military weapon this seems unlikely in
the context of the game, which suggests many of these are in fact civilian
hunting weapons. Probably a good model for this weapon is the
Remington 700, on which the M24 and also the M40 are based. Most
hunting rifles look very similar anyway.
Assault rifles are in reality very similar in performance and in
game terms the differences are mainly cosmetic. The gun in Postal 2 is a
M16A2. It might be nice to add a M4 for SWAT and military. There
should be an AK in the game too, possibly with the ejection slot and
cocking handle on the right side! I see someone has done a mod for the
G36. Still a bit of a rare weapon outside the military but it would be a
nod to the movie where most of the Taliban carry them (unlikely though
that would be). Taliban should carry a mix of assault rifles.
I enjoy playing shooter games using semi-automatic, rapid fire
when possible, so if there is a selective mode for the automatic weapons
I would enjoy that. Perhaps there might be a semi-auto sporter rifle in
the game, in which case I tend to favour the AR-180B.
Postal Weapons Thoughts, Part Three: SMGs.
Functionally SMGs will be similar to the assault rifle(s). They may
be shorter ranged and have a higher rate of fire. They will also tend to be
rarer, the main sources being the police and criminals. Suggested types:
MP5. Favoured by many police forces, it will probably be an
alternative to the M16/M4 for SWAT.
Ingram MAC 10. Compact, high rate of fire machine pistol.
Favoured by hispanic gangs perhaps?
Tec-9. Another machine pistol, possibly favoured by black
gangs.
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PM-63. Another machine pistol and one rarely encountered in
video games. Given that the revamp of Postal 2 originates from Poland
there should be a Polish weapon in the game and the PM-63 is an
interesting choice. The PM-63 will be an interesting weapon to animate
since it uses a slide but fires from an open bolt.
Beretta M12. Italian SMG used by the Swiss Guard, among
others. This is the SMG that should be used by nuns and priests in the
game.
These SMGs should cover most requirements so there is no
need for more exotic types. (The P90 and MP7 have been done to death
in other games and they are not that good in reality. Time to break the
mold!)
Postal Weapons Thoughts Part Four: Shotguns.
Having now played with a lot of the shotguns available for AWP
they divide into “too weak” and “too much”. With the standard gun you
can often put two or three shots into a target's head and they do not
even stop shooting. Most of the modded guns on the other hand blow
any target into dogmeat. P2:UDK really needs a shotgun that is a better
balance between these two extremes.
What I do like in Postal 2 is that the shotguns (even the sawn-off)
have a credible range.
Sawn-offs should be a weapon option for priests.
Postal Weapons Thoughts Part Five: Napalm and Scissors.
I like the Napalm Launcher. It and the scissors are weapons you
do not see in other games. The physics of the scissors need fixing, as I
have already mentioned. The Napalm Launcher also needs adjustment.
One thing I'd like to see fixed is the projectile seems to leak when
you fire it and can set the Postal Dude on fire even if fired level or at
relatively low elevations. Now, for Alt-fire this is fine if it starts leaking
after it hits the ground but for standard launch it seems unrealistic and is
a bit of a pain in the arse! Can this be fixed in P2:UDK? Certain versions
of the original game have a bug that does not let me use the Napalm
Launcher so I want to see that corrected.
Other Weapons To Include:
Rocket Launcher, WMD, M60 machine gun, diseased cow head,
grenades, M79 grenade launcher, molotov cocktails, can of Stynx,
matches, can of gasoline, syringe, Zyklon B, scissors, dervish cats,
hyperactive monkeys(?).
Stun gun, police/riot baton(s), electric baton, tonfa/side-handle
baton, telescopic baton, tazer(?).
Shovel, boomerang machete, sledgehammer, scythe, axe, hatchet,
hammer, sickle, shears, baseball bat, spiked bat, road sign, cleaver,
butcher knife, pitch fork, rake, balisong knife, katana, sword,
bayonet/rambo knife, golf club, frying pan (“who knew?”), ice pick,
walking stick, crowbar.
Chainsaw, electric drill, nail gun.
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Characters and Factions.
The Denzels.
I was wondering about “Gangsta Boyz” as an NPC type. My
original thought was a black gang with big baggy shirts,
sideways/backwards caps and trousers with the crotch below the knee.
Possibly this gang may control the Ghetto area near the police station.
“The Denzels” are aggressive and territorial but cannot shoot for
shit because they hold their guns sideways posing. Signature weapon(s):-
Glock 9mm and/or TEC-9s? For more deliberate conflicts they also use
AKs and Shotguns and also use other varieties of pistol, SMG and rifle.
The Trejoes
Friend of mine has pointed out there would be more hispanics in
Arizona and that these were oddly absent in Postal 2. The Trejoes wear
shirts buttoned to the neck, bandanas, hair-nets etc. Just watch the
movie “Machete” for ideas on how they will dress. Perhaps they control
an area near the train yard and mall? Armament and marksmanship are
of a similar level to the Denzels. It is possibly there may be more than
one hispanic gang in Paradise.
Parents for Decency.
The distinguishing feature of the Parents for Decency, other than
their shirts, is that many of them will be middle-class American parents.
Many of the protestors should therefore be of varying levels of
overweight.
Book Protestors.
The Book Protestors owe their origin to a movement that believes
people should only read the Bible or books about the Bible. Reading
other books causes all sorts of dangerous ideas! Being of a strict religious
persuasion many of the Book Protestors therefore dress very straight
and conservatively. Men tend to wear shirts and ties under their tee-
shirts. Many women favour high collars and long skirts.
Rednecks.
Rednecks already have a distinctive look. Their main distinguishing
feature is that they are seldom far from a rifle or shotgun. It may be fun
to throw an occasional bow hunter into the mix. I am sure the Postal
Dude will have something pithy to say when an arrow goes into him.
Butchers.
Possibly the Butchers may have a little bit of a Mad Max look?
This would distinguish them more from the Rednecks. Working indoors
Butchers tend to favour pistols and shotguns. They also have a tendency
to use the various knives, cleavers, axes and hammers found in their
surroundings. Knife throwing may be a reasonably common skill with
Butchers.
Carriers.
The Carrier service has a tradition of being heavily armed. Carriers
are more likely to be armed with fully automatic or other military
weapons.
Vegetarians.
Vegetarians should have a distinct look other than their tee-shirts.
Sandals, beads and hippy skirts would be good. Hair would probably be
crusty!
Police.
Police weapons include automatic pistols, various batons,
shotguns, MP5s and M16s/M4s. ATF, on the other hand are more likely
to use highly destructive weapons such as explosives and Napalm
launchers.
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Army/National Guard.
Army equipment is highly standardized. Beretta pistol, M16/M4,
M79, M60, grenades and rocket launchers. Sniper rifles may be
encountered.
Joggers.
How about some joggers and runners in the population? Might be
fun to have some faster moving targets!
Aggressive Panhandler.
On the subject of people in tracksuits, I would quite like to see
someone resembling the Aggressive Panhandler (Michael Paré) from the
movie of the game. Unique weapon : 4" Colt Python.
Idiots Using Phones.
There should be more idiots with phones as NPCs in the game
and if something is more likely to harm them while they are texting or
talking, that is just karma!
Nuns with Guns!
The Postal Game really should have nuns! It would be cool if the
nuns had some unique weapons too. I'd suggest a Scholfield S&W
revolver as a nod to a certain movie, and perhaps an SMG such as the
PM-63 (a nod to Poland) or the Beretta M12 (used by the Swiss Guard
so can be taken to be a Vatican approved design!)
General Gameplay Issues.
The military base needs more health packs and pickups.
Breweries, meat packing plants etc are dangerous environments.
Let us have lots of ways to utilize the environment to kill enemies.
Knock people into grinders, drop barrels or boxes on people, there are
many options.
One thing any modern sandbox game needs to think hard about is
how big a sandbox. That in itself is related to how the protagonist will
get around. The country in “Gun” (Neversoft) or the cities in GTA:VC
and Saints Row 2&3 were about right, although you had cars and horses
for those. GTA:SA was a wonderful achievement but probably too big
when you could end up driving for five to ten minutes (that you could
only save at certain locations did not help!). The Capitol Wasteland
(Fallout 3) is of similar size but more manageable since you can fast travel
(and save wherever and whenever). If the Postal Dude is walking
everywhere it needs to be considered how much bigger than the original
town P2:UDK will be, since I am sure some new areas will be added and
welcome.
Minimize the areas of the town that are blocked off on the earlier
days. You should be able to perform the day’s tasks, or roam freely
about the town exploring.
Another thing I would like fixed is having to jump up on things to
pick up certain items.
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Fix the zombies so firearms other than shotguns have some effect
on them.
As a joke: Just before the Postal Dude attempts to drive his car
flash up a tutorial screen on driving controls.
If there is going to be weather in P2:UDK then it should have
some effect on gameplay. If it is raining it should be harder to set people
on fire or use similar weapons. Rain, fog, snow and night should also cut
down shooting range, particularly with sniping weapons.
It occurred to me the reason I so seldom use melee weapons in
other games is it is just too easy to get firearms and in particular
ammunition. You just run over a dead enemy and you get their ammo. It
might be an interesting for a game to have a “looting time” option. ie if
this option has been checked you only get stuff if you spend a few
seconds "searching" a body or container.
Wearing a police uniform obviously offers certain advantages.
Should this be balanced out by only allowing these if “official” police
weapons are used -ie baton, pistol, shotgun etc. A cop throwing frags or
using a flamethrower would be an obvious imposter to other cops.
“I Regret Nothing!”
Phil West
The Books
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