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Our theme for this panel debate is to consider “what do we do about Google”.
The blogosphere, the airwaves, and even the man on the street has an opinion.
Only this week, we hear rumours of news publishers “ganging up” on Google; then
yesterday, we heard that GoogleNews has just decreed – seemingly in
acknowledgement of the damage that their existing rules cause to publishers - that it
will limit free news access with its new "first click free programme"… So, never a dull
moment - which fuels the enigma that is Google.
This afternoon, I want to stand back from the arguably provocative title of today’s
debate, and instead, talk about something more fundamental that should underpin
any rational discussion on this topic. And that is the issue of copyright – a
deceptively, simple legal principle.
But to start, I want to first read a quotation: “It’s mine – you can’t have it. If you
want to use it for something, then you have to negotiate with me. I have to
agree, I have to understand what I’m getting in return”. Are these the words of
some billionaire media mogul? No, actually it was Sir Tim Berners Lee, the inventor
of the World Wide Web, talking to the BBC last year. He was not talking about
copyright, but about personal information.
And as a backdrop to this debate, I want to suggest that, the issue we face in the
management of copyright on the web is exactly the same as that which we face in
the management of privacy and confidentiality on the web.
Critics will say – but all information wants to be free? Well perhaps. But many who
advocate the abolition of copyright - or simply ignore it as a constant irritation - are
the very same people who are most vociferous about the need to retain privacy. And
the web infrastructure required to manage all types of information which is not to be
freely distributed – whether for reasons of confidentiality or copyright – is the same.
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So why focus on copyright? Well, it’s simple - because media business models –
almost without exception – are dependent on copyright; they always have been and
will always be. As every publisher in this room knows: copyright, in turn, creates the
incentive to create and then distribute widely, an incredibly diverse world of content.
The same information which “wants to be free” turns out to be quite expensive to
create – and if it doesn’t exist, it’s hard to see how anyone can “set it free”.
And when the matter of news publishers and Google gets debated, somehow
people want to shift direction and talk about a new “paradigm”, as if copyright is
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some historical irrelevancy in this modern age. Well, it isn’t – it forms the very basis
of the internet and before it, the long and dramatic explosion in availability of
knowledge and choice for consumers. It’s why hundreds of thousands of books,
magazines and newspapers are published. The reason why we have hundreds of
TV channels to choose from. And the reason we have – for now at least –
commercially created content online. It is also the basis of success in the future for
all publishers – be they big media companies or individual bloggers - and
aggregators. Somehow, people wish to conveniently forget that there is a simple
interdependency between what content providers do and what content aggregators
do, and really what we are talking about is how the legal entitlements and
economics get fairly reflected.
In his introductory remarks, Kees reminded us that, Google CEO Eric Schmidt did
say, "It's a huge moral imperative to help [newspapers}" – but as benevolent a
position as this may appear, I want to say that I am not advocating charity here...
We publishers don’t need hand outs or crumbs from Google’s table... What we want
is a more rigorous and unambiguous acceptance on copyright, an acknowledgement
of our right to choose our own business model, a more transparent technical
mechanic, and perhaps, less of the rather tired “fair use” rhetoric.
Some years ago in a speech at the Frankfurt Book Fair – I accused Google of being
“kleptomaniacs”. That was a harsh description – some might even say unfair. But I
was mindful that Google was then (as it is now) the largest media company in the
world worth $190 billion – after only 10 short years in existence – and, it had
achieved this vaulted position by developing an ingenious model that did not actually
require it to pay for content. In truth, my awe for this commercial success was only
matched by my envy!
But in calling Google a “kleptomaniac”, I was merely reflecting on the basic
underlying principle of copyright that says: “Not Saying ‘NO’, doesn’t actually
mean YES”, and the content aggregators (be they Google, Yahoo, or the countless
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thousands of bots and spiders that trawl through cyberspace) should not presume
that “our content is simply their content”.
As the architects, creators and funders of this valuable content, surely we publishers
have the right to determine how our content is to be exploited by them, and surely
we have the right to be able to have a reasonable dialogue as to how a more
equitable division of value can be achieved? Unfortunately, the pat answer always
seems to be: don’t complain – aren’t we giving you the traffic?... AS IF I could
take traffic to my bank manager. But shouldn’t I have the right to determine – as a
fair trade for my own content - whether I want traffic or something else? Leaving
aside the thorny issue of dominant market position that Google enjoys, why should I
just be forced to accept Google’s business model of site referral as the only online
model?
Some, of course, have accused me of simply “not getting it” and over-simplifying a
very complex issue… but even if you accept such categorizations of mine as being
facile, headline grabbing tactics, no one – in truth - should really be that threatened
by what I am saying on the issue of copyright.
There is no reasonable commentator that would seriously deny that the internet –
and Google, in particular - has catalyzed fundamental change in the media
business. The democratization of the mechanisms for the creation – and rather
more critically, the distribution – of content, provide unprecedented, if unproven,
opportunities for all participants on the web.
But some things – including critically for this audience, high quality in depth news
– are bloody expensive, and those who research, write and shape the news have a
not unreasonable expectation of just reward. Our content is inherently valuable and
to ensure its continuance, it relies on copyright and a sensible dialogue around the
commercial implications of that copyright.
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What is most curious about this entire debate is that the copyright of audio-visual
content is rarely ever questioned on the web now – even YouTube (which is owned
by Google) recognizes the increasing importance of copyright, and yes, now pays
for professional content. Yet, somehow when it comes to the written word from us
news publishers, the inherent logic of copyright gets sidelined. More the pity.
Some dismiss this, including Google – saying that the existing “Robots Exclusion
Protocol” does the job just fine – BUT, if you are listening to us - it just doesn’t do
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it for publishers, and we publishers need something more than essentially a binary
“yes/ no” for the management and commercial exploitation of our valuable content.
Google and others self-interested forces in cyber-space have spent the last 3 years
telling us what’s wrong with ACAP – as opposed to seeing it as a positive
development for the web – and by extension, for Google (and in that order).
And what really baffles me is: Why should Google have a problem with ACAP? I
mean all it seeks to do is to give publishers a language to communicate certain
things about their content, their copyright… That is, unless, what Google are really
saying (but not saying) is that they have a problem with the principle of copyright.
So, perhaps now is the time for Google and others to stop protesting and time for
Google to start working constructively and openly with publishers.
If Google are genuinely pro-copyright, then they must be pro-ACAP (or at least pro
its goals), as all ACAP seeks to do is to make copyright work on the web, by
creating an infrastructure that is universal – not proprietorial; not owned by any one
individual business; not confined to specific media; not telling anyone what their
business model should or shouldn’t be; but making it easier for them to choose. An
open standard available to everyone and at no cost to the user.
For those who savour the democratization of content on the web, this seems like a
reasonable starting point.
Google’s mantra is “Do no Evil”, and I make no apology for reminding them of that.
Nor do I make an apology for reminding them that Copyright is not some intellectual
abstract – it is the law – and I’d suggest that Google needs to start to work in good
faith to find solutions that enshrine copyright, not abuse it. And unilaterally issuing
decrees frankly doesn’t do it. The way to do it is sit down with us, discuss the issues,
understand what publishers want - individually and collectively. Negotiate and be
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Gavin K. O’Reilly – President of WAN+IFRA
Because in the end – the stark choice is that we either abandon copyright or we find
common ground and use non-proprietorial technology to properly manage it. I, for
one, am not for abandoning copyright – nor I suspect is any right-minded and law
abiding person. So, for fear of being accused of “Google-bashing” today – my
invitation to Google is to really engage with content creators in an open, non-
proprietorial way… so, not a case of “Do no Evil” but rather “Do the Right Thing”!
In the final analysis, ACAP itself may or may not be the right technical answer for
the web – but if nothing else, it sets a positive and open framework for a more
equitable and transparent model for content management and commercial
interaction on the web. That’s all. It is nothing to be afraid of – rather it is something
that should be welcomed by Google.
In closing, let me say that no one more than Google has defined the web – and
Google’s justifiable popularity is a function of its ubiquity, brilliant marketing and oh-
so clever technology… they are a world leader, but they are not infallible… So,
“what do we do about Google” as the debate poses – well, getting them to
unequivocally embrace copyright seems to be a damn good starting point – and
thereafter, we can all work together to find the industry-wide, technological solutions
that give effect to that. Pretty uncontroversial really…
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