ScienceStandardsPublicForum

DubuqueKeystoneAEA
Wednesday,March25,2015

MarianGodwin,SusiePeterson,Dr.BradBuck
13peopleandavideographer(independenthiredtotapethepublicmeeting)

Speaker1:CelesterFeldmann(1:35)
Themes:CC,Religion,Environment

PresidentofCatholicSchoolBoardatHolyCross.Mentortoyoungerstudents.
IhaveseenCommonCoreinaction.ProblemwithCC;methodofindoctrinationfor
youngerkids.Example2ndgradetheCCsaystheyhavearesponsibilitytosavethe
earththisispropaganda,butitisapartoftheprogramwheretheenvironment,the
earthisparamount.Catholicschoolfaithisthecoreoftheschool.
GeorgeWillquoteCCifyoulikelocalcontrolkeepit.Ifyoulikeit..keepit.Thisis
thethinendpowerinWashingtonsolutiontofederalgovernment.Complianceof
45statesbut2stateshavebackedout.Watchforthetermalignment.AlignSATand
ACT;Align.
NationalcurriculumthatalignsOnegovt;
50yearsofElemandSecondaryEdAct.federalgovtstagnatedtestscores.
WehaveallbeentoldthatACHIEVEgroupisthatanIowabasedorganization?Itisa
Washingtonbasedgroup.
NationalStandardsNotstatestandardsTheyareNationalstandards.Theyinflict
theirideasandprocessontheschools.
IwrotealettertotheeditorCCandtheCatholicschoolsystemsaccusedof
conspiracy.Directeffortandmeanttobesecret.
PSchaffleylettertotheBishopdontbeconcerned.CCmeanttobesecret.
Archibishopdontbeconcerned.

Timeup...Dr.BucksendtherestofyourcommentstotheDE.

Speaker2:HankLinden(8:00)
Themes:CC

ExschoolboardDubuquedistrict
SchaffleybookConcernsinthe80saboutCCandreviewedschooldistrictsacrossthe
nation.Childabuseintheclassroom.Indoctrinationandinvasiveprocedures.Family
informationCCcoreinvasiveintothefamily.
*MathproblempostedonFacebook.Kidsaregettingfrustrated.Turningthem
awayfromtheeducationsystem.

Haveseenalotofvideos_____onYouTubeabouttheupsanddownsaboutthebad
thingsofCommonCore.StaciHuppsentinfoontheCCIowaCore.Sentasample
assessment.
Thatseemedokay.IneedtoknoweveryaspectofAZwhatsinthetest.Iwouldbe
frustratedifIwasastraightAstudent.Icanthemtogettothesolution.

Speaker3:JohnLukasik(11:50)
Themes:CommonCore

NearMechanicalEngineering35years.AppliedMathandAppliedScienceexperience.
UIstudentsandseniorJohnDeereandinterviewedforJohnDeere.

Questions:Themeetingisat4:30starting.Parentsandkidscantbehereatthistime.
Isitworthbeinghereatall?ArticleinthepaperIowaCCinthepaper.Dothe
standardsalreadyexist?Isitalreadyaforegoneconclusion?Newvisionsforscience
butproducedbyAchieveincorporated.Thelogosaysforthestatesandbythestates.
Achievecreatedin1996taskistosupportNGSSanditwasreleasedonlinein2013
14.Isitjunkscience?
PhysicsisabsentfromtheHSlevel.Completeproblem.Standardsleadtoassessment.
NewspaperarticleIllinoisthreatensschoolswhodonttest.
CCismostlyintheIowaCorewhatisIowaCoreandhowdiditcometoIowa.Nolocal
control.Thisisfederalcontrolofourstudentscurriculum,testing,andtheirthinking.
Shameonallofus.CCtakeoverisbeingfoughtbyothers.Thebestthingwecando...
stopdeceivingusanddropIowaCore.WedontwantitinIowa.

Speaker4:LynneDevaney(16:40)ForNGSS
Themes:Religion,CC,NGSSContent+

AssociatesuperintendentforDubuqueSchools

CommissionerforIowaCore

SupportofNGSS
MadeawareofmyresponsibilityasaneducatorwhenPDcameaboutwith
NGSS.
SatatatablewithPella,DupontandPrudential.Theyimpressedonmetheimportance
ofproperlypreparedstudents.Theywerehavingdifficultieshiringemployees.They
werereachingbeyondIAtogetqualifiedworkers.Welookedatthestandardstogether.
TalkedaboutemploymentneedsandprovidemorefortheneedsofstudentsinIowa.
ReallystudytheNGSS.
Mybackgroundisveryconservative.IworkedfortheArchbishopofDubuquefora
numberofyearsbeforegoingtothepublicschool.PoliticallyandinmythinkingI
followalongthatline.Theprocessofinquiryletsmestudythefactsofscienceand
applymybeliefsystemtothatthinking.
WhetherIamMuslim,Catholic,DemocratorRepublican,growingkidstothink.

Strengths
1. Basisofteachingourchildrentothink.
2. Applyfactsofscience,andgrowingchildrentothink.Studentshaveflexibilityto
think.
3. NoothersetofstandardsisascompleteK12.Wehavetohiregeneralistsin
elementary.NGSShelpthemtoaddressthecurriculum.ICandCCdonot.NGSS
doesitthebest.
4. Givenusthescienceconceptsandalignedtomath,engineering,andcross
cuttingconceptsthatallstudentsneedtounderstand.Noothercurrdocument
hasdonethis;makingconnectionsforteacherstomovetothenextsteps.
5. In33yearsofeducationthestrongestdocumentthatIhavefound.
LookatNGSSmovesustothenextlevelofevengreatereducationthatweknowIowais
capableof.

Speaker5:JasonMartinHiner(21:25)ForNGSS
Themes:NGSSContent+,Fordham,LocalControl

ScienceKeystoneAEAconsultant

Thanksfortheopportunity

Iappreciatethedebate.

20years6yearsinthenortheastAEA;Districtandteachersarealreadylooking
atNGSS.Whatkidsneedtoknowanddowhentheygraduate.
Currentstandardsarevague.Teachers(elem)aregeneralist.Wecannowcollaborate
withotherstatesNGSSstandardswellgroundedinhowkidslearn.Weavecontent,
practicesandbigideasinperformanceexpectations.Equitytoallstudents.Coherent
storylinesonpreviouslearning.Rigorbringsrigorforallstudentsscientificliterate.
Readjournals,blogs,literature...andtalkingtoothers.
WhysomemightnotwanttogetNGSS
1.Fordhamiscitedwhynottoadopt.
DespitemostofthegradedhighstateshavenowadoptedNGSSorare

revising.
2.Notenoughcontent?Teacherssayextremelycontentfull
3.Studentstakingsciencewillneedtotakephysics

Maynotaddressall,butthe
4.Frameworkshowthesciencestandards
5.Illdefinedtermsanderrors.Modelsarethecitedaserrors
ChangeawordIowacouldchangethat
6.PracticesandstandardsareequaltocontentknowledgeIdisagree.
7.Lossoflocalcontrol?Standardsdoesnotequalcurriculum.

Everyoneexplorethedata,options...
AsaparentandeducatorIwantNGSS.
Thankstoyouandthestateteam.

Speaker6:RandyFarnum(27:00)ForNGSS
Themes:NGSSProcess+,NGSSContent+

DubuqueK12ScienceCoordinator

TheNGSSHSdocumentthiswouldhavehelpedsomuchhowtogetthere.

Parentteacherconferencestonightbutteacherswantedtobehere.

Wehavebeenlookingatthisdocumentindepth.

201213lookingatthedraftofit,wewereabletogiveinput,allofit.

Draftcameoutandtheyhadmadechanges.

Changedperformanceexpasaskedbyscientistsandteachers
TheScienceTeamhashadatransparentprocessforhowtogettotheplace;notesare
published;standardshavebeencompared.
Strengths:Putsusallinthesameplayingfield.Coreideasarewelldefinedoffof
framework.Wherearetheconceptsfound?AlllaidoutforusaswelookattheDoc.
Weseehowtheareasallfittogether.Wehaveneverhadthatbefore.Theendpointis
notknowingafact,buthowamodelusesthosefacts.
Abletoworkwithoutsidepartnerstheybringinwonderfulthingsperformance
expectationsandecologyandtheperformanceexpectations.
Setofdoorsopenthatneverwerebefore.
Inmyapplicationteachersandtraining.WhenwelookatICandthenNGSS.Wecan
buildourlessons,ourcommunications,andourpartnersandgrow.

Speaker7:JohnEganhouse(31.35)
Themes:IowaCore

ScienceteacheratWyomingIowa
WhatIlikeaboutIC.Wegetalotoftransientstudents.Theirskillsdontmatchupto
whatweteach.Itwouldbenicetobeonthesamepage.CCgivesusagroundwork.
Standardbasededucationgettingawayfromgradesandgoingtoproduction.CC
givesmeaframeworkandhavethempreparedforthenextgeneration.
Wehavedifferentstudentfrom20yearsago.Playinggamesandshortcuts.Getthem
backontrackandfillthejobsoutthereespeciallyengineering.
ProblemswithCCMSand6thteacherwordiness.Getthatoutofthere,butoverallit
isaverygoodstepforward.IdontbelieveImbeingforcedtoteachanything.Iam
beingguidedtoteach.Istillhavealotofcontrolinmyclassroom.Justinterestedin
whatsgoingonhere.

Speaker8:PaulKurt(35:00
Themes:CommonCore

Ind,SC,Okalahoma,asJohnhassaid,withdrewfromCC
MissWiscrecommendationtoremoveCC
Grassleysponsoredabillatthefederallevelnofederalcontrolineducation.

ND,LA,Repeal(namedpeoplewhowereworkingatthefederallevel.)

SmarterBalanceWebsite

WithCCandSmarterBalancerigidandstayonschedule
1. HowdoweasoptoutofSm.Balance?
2. Howdidyouadvertisethismeeting?Lookedatschoolsandnoreferenceto
thismeeting?
3. HowdohomeschoolstudentstaketheSMBalancetest?
4. HowSMbalancetestsarerequiredthroughouttheyear?
5. Howdoyoukeeptrackofkidsintheschooltomake
6. Doschoolboardsgettomakedecisionsabouttests?
7. AreteachersgradedfortheP/Foftheirstudents?
8. HowdowechallengegiftedstudentswithSB?
9. NumberofcomputersforkidskidscouldtaketheSBover34weeks
Schedulingtheconcerns.
10. Canparentsrequesttoseethedataontheirkids?

Willtypeupandsendtherestofthequestions.

Speaker9:JaredMcGovern(40:45)SupportNGSS
Themes:NGSSContent+

EDeducationprogramdirectorforNationalMiss.MuseumandAquarium.
Iowaisastateofleaders.Peoplenotafraidtotakeachance.Iowa:betheleader.
Iowa:betheforefront.
Iamnotaformaleducator.ButIsupportthem.NGSSbringstheprocessintoourjob.
Conceptsandideasbehindthesolutionsincollegewasexciting.Ilearnedsomuch
more.NGSSisnotabouttheanswer.Processforthesolutionandhowtogetthe
product.NGSSisaboutunderstandingandtheprospectofgoingintotheprofession.It
willbringstudentstousandustokids.Focusingonhistorical,environmental.
Hopefully,howtheywere.Howtheycanbe.Whatcanhappeninthefuture.

Freedomforstudentstolearntheprocess.

SpeakerWayneBuchholtz(43:45)
Themes:

DNRparkrangernotaformaleducator.
Weusedtogetalotofteachersonfieldtripsandtheyreallydidnotknowwhy.
Nowtheycomeforaspecificreason.Tiedtoaunit.Outoftownschooltietoseveral
units.Teacherscomingwithacontinuoussetofunitsthattheygothrough.Donot
mandatetheunits,butwhenteachersteachunitstimewhenitmakessense.
Encourageteacherstogetoutsideandinit.

Naturalresourcesgetoutthereandseeit.
Iworkmorewithelementary.
IhearkidsOhthatiswhatthebutterflyis.Hereis8foottallgrassnot3incheslikein
thebook.
Encouragegetkidsoutoftheclassroom.
Freeinguptheteachersandfieldtripslotsofthingstogetdone.DEDecisioncant
askkidstopayforschooltrips.Thathurttremendously.Wearefindingalternatives.
Butsomethingneedstobedonetoallowteacherstogetbackoutagain.