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so] they just pay you less, and we take that, we accept that, but we would have to
change what we do if not for the private insurance carriers whom we aggressively
negotiate with to get rates that are 140 percent of Medicare. Because were able to do
that, were able to make our 1-1/2 percent margin so that we can buy a cyber knife for
$7 million dollarsIf we did not get extra money from your company [C-SPAN health
insurance], if all we got was what Medicare paid, then do the math. We lose 20
percent. Well, were a business. We cant lose money. So we either go out of business or
we offer less so that we can break even. Well, offering less in healthcare means that we
dont give you the latest and greatest, which you know is not as good."
"Doctors charge separately in the hospital. So, if I do a Medicare operation, a
Medicare coronary bypass surgery, I accept what Medicare pays me: Its about
$2,000Surgeons are paid globally, so you know if I operate on you, I get one
payment and you and I are married, So, for that month or until I get you well, thats
what I get paid. So, I can see you 10 times a day, I can you know if you have
complications, come in in the middle of the night, do whatever it is, I get that one
paymentAnd for the hospital its similar. They get whats called a DRG payment, and
its based on the diagnosis. So, for bypass surgery, I think its about $18,000 that the
hospital would get from Medicare to pay for whatever happens to that patientit costs
more than that. Im not sure exactly how much more than that. I mean, my - were way
beyond what we charge, What we charge and what we collect is totally different"
"There used to be more money in the systemmedical care gets better and better every
year, New technology, its expensive, but its better and better. Things used to be
cheaper, but you know were of the mind that theres nothing thats too expensive. We
want the latest and the greatest. Were willing to pay for it, and we have. But that
occurs at the same time in parallel that were getting paid less, the hospitals getting
paid less.
You know I - most doctorstruly did not go into medicine to make a big income. I
think at least the physicians in my generation were attracted to medicine by you know
what you can do for people, and the idea that you could be independent, work for
yourself, sort of be your own personwhat we do in a hospital as our default is to help,
is to save people, and in doing that we dont think about the money. We dont. Its the
last thing on a physicians mind is what money were spending to bring someone back.
Young Americans
young physicians see a different horizon than guys and girls in my era,and I think
theyre much more protective of their private time. I think that theyre much more
eager to be employed, to not have the responsibility to run their practice. I think part
of thats because its hard, the opportunity to hang out your own shingle now is very
difficult. Its too expensive. You cant afford it. And so you know young people dont
want to take that risk, and theres more of a shift mentality you know. In my group, we
sort of never get away from it, even on our nights off, youre still a little bit on edge. Its
what you do. Its part of your life, and I think that the newer generation of physicians,
theres more of a you know you work your shift, theyre long hours, but at the end of
things you really are off and you have your life. That is what it is.
Chumley, Get me Out of Here
"a lot of people that come into emergency rooms dont want to be there, They didnt
plan to be there. Its not like you have a relationship with me, you picked me as your
doctor, I operate on you and something doesnt work out right, thats different.
Emergency room, you come in, you dont want to be there, you dont know anybody,
nobody knows you. If its really a bad situation, theres lots of things going on, things
can drop through the cracks without tight protocols.
"what motivates someone to have a for-profit is to profit, but I think not-for-profit is
the best for the country because I think its cheaper. I think if not-for-profit hospitals
can adopt some of the fiscal restraints that for profit hospitals have, it would be a
valuable thing to do. But keep that savings as opposed to giving it out to shareholders.
But in a full profit system, that money savings goes to shareholders. In our system it
goes back into this hospital."
Scary Things
"the thing that scares me the most [about the healthcare debate] is just the thought
of having sort of like a massive [government] Medicare or Medicaid [system] and
having all of the inefficiencies that brings, and ending up with a system that is poor, a
hospital system thats poor and having no ability to offer really the best to our patients.
Thats what scares me the mostwe lose 20 percent on Medicare admissions, and so if
we lost 20 percent on everybody that came in, wed have to do something different,
and as part administrator, the first thing I would do is limit our capital budget. So, the
new stuff that we buy, every year we buy $30 million dollars worth of new equipment
here, that would stop. It would have to stop. We would have to lay off people because
wed have to make up that 20 percent, so the easiest way to make it up is to not buy
new stuff, and thats what we do in our personal life. But when youre talking about
healthcare, new technology is expensive, and the people that are driving new
technology expect a return on their investment."
"I think everybody needs insurance, so you know if you dont have insurance, you need
to get insurance.Im not a politician, but theres something to be said about
insurance reform and making insurance more competitive so that even people that
dont have a lot of money can have some insuranceYou know the only person that
ever asked me about how much something cost was someone who had money but no
insurance. They want to know whats it going to cost because theyre going to write a
check for itSomehow we all need to feel some of the pain of other than writing a
check for the insurance company. We need to feel that cost issue. But I do think there
needs to be insurance reform, and I think everybody needs insurance, but I would start
with trying to make there be more competition between insurance carriers so that
theres affordable insurance."
John Stanton
John Stanton is a Virginia based writer. Reach him at captainkong22@gmail.com
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