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[Aptitude] Trains, Platforms TSD (Time,Speed,Distance) made easy

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Main-Topic: Time, Speed Distance (TSD)


Subtopic: Trains and Platforms.
youll be given some data and asked to find the length of railway platform or speed of train etc.
1.

Visualizing the Concept: Train and Pen

2.

Case 1: One Train One Man (or Tree, Pole)

3.

Case 2: One Train One Platform (or bridge, tunnel)

4.

Case 3: Two Trains

5.

Unit Conversions

6.

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Visulize: Pen and Train


Before going into Trains concept, try to visulize following. (ofcourse technically incorrect but for
concept clarity)
You must have seen the advertizement of a ballpen Flair Writometer. They claim it can write
for 2,500 metres and even provide a marking scale on the ballpen refill to measure the
distance! See the photo

(http://img543.imageshack.us/i/flairwritormeterpen.jpg/)

So Youre standing on a Railway platform, holding that writometer pen in your hand, pointing it
straight towards the upcoming trains side, like this photo

(http://img338.imageshack.us/i/trainconceptvisual.png/)
The train passes, and your pen makes a straight line on the entire body of this train.
Now you open the pens refill and check the markings, obviously few mili-litres of ink is used and
marking would show that youve drawn a line of 200 meters.
Meaning length of this train is 200 m.

At the same time, your friend was sitting in the window seat of the same railway and he too held
a writometer pen in his hand pointing it out of the window and towards the platform.So as the
train passed, his pen also drew a straight line on the entire platform. Later he checks the refill of
his pen: it drew a line of 1000 meters.
Meaning length of this railway platform is 1000 m.
so what is the total distance or length of lines drawn by the two pens?
200m of train + 1000m of platform = 1200m.
Now questions

Case1: one men, one train.

A railway train running at the speed of 20 meter per


second, crosses a man in 10 seconds. What is the length of
the train?

For all the problems about train, boats, cars, scooters, men required to complete a job, tata
nano and kingfisher airplane, in short TSDW (time,speed, distance, work) you need to remember
only one STD formula
ST=D
speed (s) x time (t) = distance (d)
Back to the question, what is given?
Visualise the situation: you are the man, holding the writometer pen and the train crossed you
in 10 seconds. What is the distance of the line drawn by your pen on the body of the train?

Speed (s)= 20 m/s (given)


Time (t)= 10 seconds (given)
so
sxt=d
20 x 10=200 m.
final answer: length of the train is 200 m.

Alternatives:
Instead of man, they can rephrase and ask: Train crossed a Tree, Telephone-pole, Tiger,
Kalmadi, Raja.. The concept remains the same. Everybody is holding a pen.

Case2: one platform, one train.

Question: a train running at the speed of 20 m/s, crosses a


railway platform in 20 seconds. If the length of the train is
100 m, what is the length of this railway platform?

So in this case, you were standing on a platform holding a blue pen and I am sitting in the
railway also holding a purple pen.
What is the total length of lines drawn by both of us?

(http://img805.imageshack.us/i/caseonetrainoneplatform.png/)
Total Length (or distance)= Your blue pen drew 100 m line + My purple pen drew (x) m line.
: The total of blue and purple color line in above photo
So total distance covered by the train is (100+x)
Now ,
speed is given: 20m/s
time is also given: 20 seconds
So apply the STD formula
sxt=D
20ms x 20 seconds = (100+x)
400m = 100+x
x=400-100

x=300m
Final answer: length of this platform is 300 metres.
Alternative: instead of railway platform, they can use the word Bridge, Tunnel but the principle
remains the same.

Case3: two trains crossing each other


Two trains are coming from opposite directions. Both of them are running at the same
speed 20 meter per second.
It takes 20 seconds for them to completely cross each other. If the length of first train is 90 m,
what is the length of the second train?
Visualise: you are holding a pen sitting in first train, I am holding a pen sitting in the second.
The total length of line drawn is 90+x m
Since both of the trains are moving, and moving in opposite directions. Meaning it will take less
time to draw these lines.
Hence
Final speed (s)
= speed of first train+ speed of second train.
= 20+20
= 40 m/s
Now it can be solved just like the case #2.
In the case #1 and #2, Man and Platform were stationary (unmoving) objects so their speed was
zero, hence we took trains speed as our final speed. But here second train is also moving so
weve to consider it.

Alternative:
same question, but instead of two trains , it is one man riding on a bike and another train
coming from the opposite direction.
Heres the length of length of line
=Line drawn on Train + Line drawn on Bike
= 90m +zero meter. (because length of bike is negligible, we take it zero)
So Distance (d)= 90.
but for the speed we have to add
=Train + Bike
=20+20
S=40 m/s
After that, principle remains the same as Case #3

Unit conversions
It is essential that before applying the STD formula, all the unit is must be in the same system,
else you will get incorrect answer.
and they will give that incorrect answer in one of the four options [a/b/c/d] so you will
confidently tick it but end up loosing in negative marking.
So in the STD formula. Everything must be
either in meter,second,
or in kilometer, hour.

Remember

1 km per hour = 5/18 meter per second.


How did we derive this?
1 kilometer per hour
=1000 meters per 60 minutes
=1000 meters per (6060) seconds
=1000 meters per 3600 seconds
=10 meters per 36 seconds (cut the zeros)
=5 meters per 18 seconds. (half of 10 and 36)
Meaning
if a train is running a 36 kms per hour then, its speed in meter per second is:
1 kmph = 5/18 ms
36 kmph= 36x (5/18) = 10 m/s.
If the reverse is asked, (10 m/s then how much in kmph?),
simply multiply with reverse 18/5, because
5/18 ms = 1 kmph
1 ms= 18/5 kmph
10 ms= 10 x (18/5) kmph = 36 kmph.

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Manjunatha

What is the answer for case-3 problem??


Is it 710..i.e (90+x = 40*20)?

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Jash
Evn i gt 710. Bt i m nt sure whether it is right or wrong???

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Ramya
I too have a doubt on the case 3 problem. I have two queries when I go
through problem on Trains.
1. The problem is A man is standing on a railway bridge which is 180 m
long. He finds that a train crosses the bridge in 20 sec but himself in 8
sec. Find the length of the train and its speed.
Here, when calculating the speed of the train, it was mentioned that
120/8. Y 8 alone. why the 20 sec is not there instead of 8?
2. A train 150m long is running with a speed of 68kmph. In what time will
it pass a man who is running at 8kmph in the same direction in which the
train is going?
Please guide me in these two problems.

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Jacob Black

Ramya,
1) 120/8 because as compare to the train or plateform a man,
telephone piller or such small items wont matter, hence for
calculating speed youve seen 120/8
2) In this case you need to find the relative speed, when a man
running in the same direction the train is going the relative speed
will be the difference of both, i.e.
Relative Speed= 68-8 = 60KMPH = 60*5/18 = 50/3 Mtr/Sec
as you know S=D/T or T=D/S => 150/(50/3)= (150*3)/50 = 9 Second

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aman'z
hey guys, can u tell me whats answer. .becoz, i think answer is
120m of train length and speed of train is 15 m/sec

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harideep
Hello sir,Which authors vedic mathematics book i.e, for speed maths will
be good?

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SATRAJIT CHAKROBORTY
please give some shortcuts on data interpretation for sbi p.o.

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shruthi
nice

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shruthi
just try place some more examples on trains concept in different ways

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Lake.Chaitanya kumar
solve this question please
walking 5/7 of his usual rate a boy reaches his school 6 min late.find his
usual time to reach the school?

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Mrunal (http://mrunal.org)
concept is already explained in another article. check
http://www.mrunal.org/aptitude (http://www.mrunal.org/aptitude)

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Lake.Chaitanya kumar
thank you mrunal sir

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Praveer Parmar
Answer is 15 minutes

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gourav sharma
please tell me the answer of case 3 ..im getting 710 please correct me
if im wrong..!!!!!!!

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ABHA RANI
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Shikha
if two trains are moving in the direction facing each other or facing
opposite to each other or moving straight with each other, then what
different techniques can be used?

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Mrunal (http://mrunal.org)

relative speed concepts for trains


if two trains moving in same direction (like in racing)=bigger minus
smaller speed
if two trains moving in opposite direction=bigger plus smaller
speed
if two trains moving away from each other=bigger plus smaller
speed

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Shikha
thanks sir

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VISHNU
A train crosses a pole in 15 seconds, while it crosses 100 meter long
platform in 25 seconds. The
length of the train is
a. 125m
b. 135 m
c. 159 m
d. 175 m
can u solve this problem sir ?

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Mrunal (http://mrunal.org)

if speed of train is s and length of train is d


when crossing pole
s x 15=d
when crossing platform
s x 25 =(d+100)
divide eq.1 by 2, s will cancel and you get value of d.

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chetan
ans is 150 metre
as speed = distance of train/time to cross pole and also
speed = (distance of train+platform distance)/time to cross
the pole.
So,d/15=(d+100)/25

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Mudasir
A 280m long train ,travelling at a uniform speed,crosses a platform in
60sec and a man standing on the platform in 20sec.whats the length of
the platform?

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sandeep
(280+x)/60 = 280/20
Where x is length of platform.

So, x = 560 m

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Akshat Sharma
Sir, Pls upload some material and tricks on reasoning. It is a most time
consuming section for us in SSC CGl. Thanks in advance.

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VimalDeshmukh
in second case if a man and train running in the same direction any
changes in solving method?

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VimalDeshmukh
A train 123 m long passes a man, running at speed 5km/hr in the same
direction, in the train is going, in 10 seconds. The speed of the train is:A)45 km/hr B)50 km/hr C)54 km/hr D)55 km/hr. .. i know that, in this
case i have to calculate relative speed for which i have minus bigger
speed from smaller speed.. but i dont know how to solve after that..

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sandeeep
A train X leaves Howrah at 6 a.m. and reaches Asansol at 10 a.m. Another
train Y leaves Asansol at 8 a.m. and reaches Howrah at 11.30 a.m. then
the two trains cross one another at
can anyone help??

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sandeeep
A train X leaves Howrah at 6 a.m. and reaches Asansol at 10 a.m. Another
train Y leaves Asansol at 8 a.m. and reaches Howrah at 11.30 a.m. then
the two trains cross one another at
can anyone help me ?

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deepak kumar
ans is 8:56am

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MNAISH AVASTHI
THIS IS THE GOOD WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE BASIC

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vishal
The driver of a maruti car driving at a speed of 68km/h locates a bus 40m
ahead of him. After 10sec the bus is 60m behind. The speed of the bus is
A.30km/h
B.32km/h
C.25km/h
D.38km/h
Solve it.

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Nalina
This involves the concept of relative speed:
let the speed of the bus be x m/s
speed of the car = 68km/hr (or) 170/9 m/s
in 10s the car covers a distance of 100m(40 + 60) at a speed of
(170/9 x)m/s
distance = speed*time
100 = (170/9 -x) *10
x = 80/9 m/s
now convert it to km/hr which is 32 km/hr
ans is B

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vishal
The driver of a maruti car driving at a speed of 68km/h locates a bus 40m
ahead of him. After 10sec the bus is 60m behind. The speed of the bus is
A.30km/h
B.32km/h
C.25km/h
D.38km/h
Solve it..

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vishal
(1) train a and b are travelling on the same route heading towards the
same destination. Train b has already covered a distance of 220km
before train a started.

(2) the two trains meet each other 11hours after the start of train a.
(3) had the trains been travelling towards each other (from a distance of
220 km) they would met after an hour.
Q.what is the speed of train a in kmph
A.102
B.118
C.81
D.none
Q. What is the speed of train b in kmph
A.150
B.136
C.100
D.120
Help me wid it..

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Abhay
Sir, please provide a solution for this question:
A man standing on a railway platform notices that a train going in one
direction takes 10 seconds to pass him and other train of the same
length takes 15 seconds to pass him. Find the time taken by the two
trains to cross each other when they are running in the opposite
directions.

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omprakash B
Let Train length= D meters

length of first train is D1= V1 x 10 (1)


length of second train is D2= V2 x 15.(2)
equation (1)/equation(2)
Therefore,
V1/V2=15/10=3/2(3)
Time taken by two trains to cross each other is :
T = (D1+D2) / (V1+V2).(4)
= ({V1 x 10} +{V2 x 15}) / (V1/V2)
divide numerator and denominator by V1
equate the values for V2/V1 from equation (3)
=12 seconds

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omprakash B
Take D1=D2=D as mentioned in the given data

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omprakash B

sorry..
Typo at the 4th line from the bottom
T=({V1 x 10} +{V2 x 15}) / (V1+V2)

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Gentleman Raju
You, sir, are an incarnation of Plato. A genius endowed with great
imagination. Thanks a lot. *sob* *sob*

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NIMESH PATEL
thank you so much sir.

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NIMESH PATEL
It is very easy solution.Thank you so much sir.

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ganesh
A passenger in train P travelling at 1km/min uses his stop watch and
finds that another train Q travelling in opposite direction, completely
passed his window in 3sec. If the length of train Q is 87.50m. find its
speed?

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Sasikumar
Ans: Velocity of Q is 12.5 m/s or 45 kmph
P travels at 60kmph or 50/3 m/s
Q travels at 87.5/3 m/s
As per Relative velocity, Velocity of Q Velocity of P = required
answer

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santosh kumar prajapati


2sin(x/2)=x2 +1/x2
Then what is value of the (x 1/x)

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if two trains are crossing each other and plateform


length is given like 1 km and train' s length is not
mentioned and speed for both trains are as 40 km/ hr
and 50 km/ hr respectively..could anyone please tell me
it' s valid answer which can satisfy all
if two trains are crossing each other and plateform length is given like 1
km and train s length is not mentioned and speed for both trains are as
40 km/ hr and 50 km/ hr respectively..could anyone please tell me it s
valid answer which can satisfy all the conditions

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shruthi

Local trains leave from a station at an interval of 15minutes at a speed of


16km/hr.A man moving from opposite side meets the trains at an
interval of 12 minutes.The speed of the man is :
Plz anyone tell me the solution

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Nina
A goods trains of length 600 meters traveling at a uniform speed
completely passes the platform of a station 45 seconds. If the
length of platforms is 300 meters. Find the speed of the train in
kilometers per hour?

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ANITHADEVI
given that length of both the train and platform are 600 and 300m.
so the distance is 600+300 =900m
train passes platform 45sec. so time also given, we have to find
speed of train in km/hr?
speed =distance/time
s =900m/45sec = 20m/sec
convert into km/hr so multiply by 18/5
20*18/5 =72km/hr is the answer

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SANTHOSH S K

Sir, How to solve these using STD table?


A train overtakes two persons walking along a railway track. The first one
walks at 4.5 km/hr. The other one walks at 5.4 km/hr. The train needs 8.4
and 8.5 seconds respectively to overtake them. What is the speed of the
train if both the persons are walking in the same direction as the train?
A train overtakes two persons who are walking in the same direction in
which the train is going, at the rate of 2 kmph and 4 kmph and passes
them completely in 9 and 10 seconds respectively. The length of the train
is?

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