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APPENDIX C
SIMULATED VIEWS
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APPENDIX D
PUBLIC INPUT
File: 121413361
Comment
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Supportive
Supportive, Friends of the Veterans from White Point to Meat Cove
Supportive; Review
Supportive; Review
Supportive of idea; Review
Supportive, started FB page to support the building of the memorial on
Green Cove
Wants to donate
Supportive
Forwarded an email from a Veteran who is supportive
Supportive. Wants to know if he can be of any help
A retired Veteran. Supportive of the idea but suggests placing it in
Newfoundland at Cape Spear
Concern about superimposing a gigantic war memorial on the Green
Cove Site
Supports concept, but suggests building it on other sites i.e. their property
in Smelt Brook
Questioned why all Canadians weren't given a chance to vote on the
location before it was decided; Review
Not supportive of location; Review
Supportive of idea but not supportive of location; Review
Supportive, but does not agree on location
Not against the project, but the site
Against the site
Against the site
Against the site
Against the site
Against the site and feels the money shouuld be invested for living
veterans
Against the site. Wants meeting in Sydney as well
Against the site and design of the monument (suggests a dove with an
olive branch)
Against the site
Individual asked for a copy of the book that he had seen in the Parks
Office, Concerns about the fishing shanty, his family had shanty and fished
on that spot.
Request we consult with the communities of North of Smokey to hear their
concerns before development starts
letter written to MLA, MP, Victoria County - not supportive of the project
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This is a great tribute to the veterans who have made the ultimate
sacrifice. I would have liked to have seen the circular honor roll
completely encased by glass so that it could be a multi seasonal viewing
area.
It is well-intentioned but
1. Sorry, but it looks like a blown-up piece of religious statuary it is
embarrassing. A simple monolith would have been less offensive. Designs
should have been solicited.
2. Canada does remember & honour its war dead every Nov. 11th.
every village, town & city has a crowd at its war memorial.
For Ed Kennedy of Parks Canada:
1. Are there examples of how projects like this encourage sustainable
economic development or revenues from tourism?
2. Does parks canada build memorials in other parks site that have a
strong nature preservation mandate?
Question For Eddie:
Do you really believe the DIA can be properly prepared by the end of
November? I fear a rushing approach both by the Foundation and Parks
Canada.
Why was there no design competition?
How would the memorial get running water?
Would the site be maintained open during the winter? Parks Canada is
reducing winter programs due to budget cuts. A National monument this
caliber should be accessible 12 months a year.
Thank you for this. Put it to a vote you will see how people really feel
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No Monument.
Very BAD IDEA.
Leave NATURE Alone.
We Love Our National Park!
Were any other sites looked at or considered?
3. What other sites were considered and rejected
Parks Canada has been subject to large budget cuts. The $60M cash
tsunami will swamp the Parks operational budget and purpose to turn the
park into a caretaker of the NFNM. When will all Canadians be consulted
for their approval of this re direction of the Parks?
How will I make my considered opinions known to Parks Canada and the Community Meeting October 7, 2014
Foundation?
Why havent there been other consultations with the people of Canada
Community Meeting October 7, 2014
but only with people of North Smokey?
I think the saying "If only we could have brought you home" is sentimental NFNM Website
and not totally honest. Who is "we"? The government of Canada could
have brought them home, either before or after they died, if it really had
the will to do so.
I am also concerned about the business spinoffs for corporate donors-who controls how the logo of the national memorial might be used for
business purposes?
To be succinct your choice of location for the memorial totally misses the NFNM Website
point of honouring people from Cape Breton.
If you truly wanted to do that you would put it in a place that benefits
people of Cape Breton. A community. Where people live.
Putting it in a national park where nobody lives is equivalent to a slap in
the face to Cape Bretoners.
Taking the tourist traffic away from struggling communities and putting it in
an already busy park away from local businesses is ignorant at best and
deliberately hurtful at worst Shame to your organization your children and
your legacy if this goes ahead as planned.
Shame
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to desecrate the natural beauty of green cove in this way is
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monumentally absurd and obscene. perhaps we should be more
concerned with attending to our living veterans.
keep our natural parks natural.
I respect and honour Canadian veterans, living and dead. Your
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monument may be a nice idea, but is a distressing choice of location and
a terribly tasteless design. Your 'strong local support' base appears to be
mostly business people who would welcome a statue of Stompin' Tom if it
brought in more tourist dollars. Tacky, tacky, tacky.
Shame on you for proposing to spoil such a beautiful site in our National
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Park.
Go and find some place else to put this memorial, like Halifax or the
Gaspe where the troops embarked to Europe.
My 3 children ask me "What is a National Park?" -and I'm afraid I can't
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provide an answer that justifies a project such as this one. Sadly, it brings
this song to mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20
This "memorial" to war dead has absolutely no place in ANY National Park NFNM Website
let alone a place of such geological importance.
Shame on you if you pour even one cubic foot of concrete over such
sacred beauty.
It would be a desecration to a truly unique natural setting that I've
enjoyed showing my son and hoped one day, he might return with his
children to experience.
I am a twelve year old writing from within Nova Scotia. This monument is
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set to go on a beautiful national park. To me, this statue will completely
destroy this locations great beauty. If you want a monument to honor the
veterans and all of the fallen soldiers, why could it not be placed in an
area that has already been developed. I think that this monument would
be more beneficial to be placed in cape smokey at the top of the ski hill..
This would bring business to the small ski hill, while encouraging people to
be active at the same time. Green cove is within a national park, I have
been taught that national parks are places that have been set aside not
to be developed, to be left untouched. I am in favor of honoring the
veterans and fallen soldiers, but please, do not ruin this coves natural
beauty by replacing it with concrete.
What is the logic of placing this Memorial within a National Park in such a NFNM Website
remote, obscure and extremely seasonal location? In my mind by placing
this Memorial into such limited access we are relegating the War Dead
rather than rightfully honoring them. All prominent Memorials I am aware
of are situated
within or very near major Urban areas. What type of infrastructure will be
put in place to facilitate the proposed structures and the effluent created
as a consequence of visitors and any increased traffic? You must note
that many sections of the Cabot Trail are currently in a state of disgraceful
disrepair with no planned upgrades in the foreseeable future. Has an
evaluation been done to assess the environmental impact pertinent with
this endeavor? What are the legal implications applicable in establishing
this Memorial within a National Park? These are just a few questions that
come to mind.
Thank You for your time.
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Why do you want to cover the most beautiful rocks in Cape Breton with
cement?
I was there a few weeks ago and it made me so sad that they might
disappear I almost cried. I don't think my Grand Father fought in the 1St
World War so you could destroy a piece of Canada. Put it in Halifax so
more people will be able to visit it.
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Are you all nuts? This is a solution in search of a problem, the location is
bizarre and offensive, the process is backwards, and the concept of
"marketing opportunities" for "partners" is beneath contempt.
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Wanted to inform us as an FYI - his uncle got murdered on Green Cove phone
he was a taxi driver
Suggests the monument should be built at Sydney Harbour instead - This
was the point Canadian soldiers left, there are more tourist there, and the
monument will be exposed to more young people (feels that the younger
generation does not know much about Canadian history and the role it
played in the war)
She spoke in favour of the memorial, but is concerned with part of the
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
proposal to have a restaurant and gift shops on site. She expressed this
would be competing with local business owners. She said the area could
definitely use the memorial, but it does not need another seasonal
restaurant and gift shop. It may put some small business owners out of
business.
Lisa MacLeod spoke in support of the project. She presented the MP with Town Hall Meeting March 2014
1229 signatures from community members who support the project.
Supporter. Said his father and uncle fought in the war and lest we forget.
Supporter and offered thanks to Parks Canada for offering land for this
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
project.
elderly veteran in the community. Spoke in favour of the memorial at
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
Green Cove. He received big applause.
Described how honoured she is to coordinate Remembrance Day
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
ceremonies each year with her students. As a teacher, her concern is that
soon there wont be any vets left and there needs to be something that
lives on and tells this story. She noted that she is only a summer resident in
Ingonish, but addressed the community saying that whatever they decide
as a community, she hopes they at least have a voice. She continued to
say that at the very least, the community should be honoured that people
think this place is special enough to honour the countrys veterans with
such a national memorial.
Supports the project. He also suggested examples where parks lands
have been used for development. Noted Gros Morne swimming pool
complex. He spoke about how Parks Canada realized that its past
approaches to expropriations were heavy handed. He said there is a
precedent already set for using park lands for developments. He also
spoke about economic benefits. He said that as a business person he
thinks this will enhance tourism on the Cabot Trail. He spoke to a friend of
his in Peggys Cove who said the Swiss Air memorial there has attracted
many more visitors. He said the community needs economic growth and
the memorial is it.
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She spoke about her grandfather fighting overseas and fighting for the
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
right to enjoy this natural beauty. People come to Cape Breton to
experience this natural beauty. She said she is a trained archaeologist
and works for the provincial government. She said according to
geography, Baie Verte, not Green Cove is in line with Vimy Memorial. She
also referenced a 1982 Parks Canada study that identified Paleo-Indian
cultural resources. She also spoke about a 1985 interview with Walter
LeFriend (sp) who lived and worked at Green Cove when it was a
seasonal fishing village. She also spoke about people dying off Green
Cove in recent years (tourists swept by rogue wave). She was upset and
appalled at the lack of transparency.
Strongly opposed to the memorial in the park. Suggested Halifax or on top Town Hall Meeting March 2014
of Smokey. He made a comment on the Foundations absence at the
meeting and spoke to the enormous tax write-off the Foundation founder
and donors are receiving and that the Foundation is just looking for
government money. He says tourists will show up anyway regardless of a
monument. Dont use the backs of veterans as an excuse. He said this is
a money maker project for Parks Canada. He said he tried to get a job at
the park and could push a lawn mower as well as the next guy but was
overlooked. He said Parks Canada should be more concerned with
cleaning up litter and deadfall trees than building a monument.
spoke about her love for the park and her desire for it to remain as is. She Town Hall Meeting March 2014
asked that the memorial stay out of the park. She also noted that it is
unfair for people to assume that those who do not support the memorial in
the park are not supporting veterans. She asked everyone to keep those
two items separate. She also asked how the plans could get so far as to
have an approval in principle without anyone knowing about it. She said
people are questioning the location. She referenced an order in council
that was signed. How did this come about without anyone knowing?
Glace Bay resident she read her letter to the editor that appeared in the Town Hall Meeting March 2014
Post. She stressed that every square mile of the park must be protected.
She said she came to Cape Breton over 30 years ago because of the
nature. She said the memorial needs another location. She referenced
the park Act and said the Minister cannot impose.
She continued that she spoke to geologists who are concerned about the Town Hall Meeting March 2014
proposal. She asked if geologists will be consulted during the
environmental assessment. She recounted that the memorial at Vimy
started crumbling just a few decades after it was built and required huge
maintenance to save it. She noted that Vimy isnt right on the ocean, but
experienced such impacts from the elements, whereas Green Cove is
right on the ocean and will receive much more impacts from the
elements.
She expressed that the community wants the memorial that there is no
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
debate about that. The only debate is where. Is it appropriate for it to be
in the park? She questioned the need for year-round access to the
memorial, when the park is reducing seasons.
referenced Foundation information, quoting that only $11k in donations
have been received and the Foundation has spent $73,000 so far.
Comment
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Asked who is paying for this? He said that all donations get a 38% tax
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
exemption. He calculated $22 million in exemptions, money the federal
government will not be receiving because of this. He noted that all
Canadians are stakeholders and he hopes consultations go beyond the
local community. He stressed that this project must comply with the Parks
Act, but cannot see how that will happen. He questioned if the full
amount will be raised in time for the planned launch date? He referenced
that $60 million is a big injection of cash in the area, but it will completely
re-purpose the park, making it a place to contemplate war. He suggests
top of Smokey as a better spot.
She asked what the impact will be on the fishery.
Town Hall Meeting March 2014
Voiced that he wants to be consulted on the work relating to the fishery to Town Hall Meeting March 2014
make sure there are no impacts, but he felt those concerns could be
worked out. Asked if DFO would be involved. He also noted that as a
business owner, he feels the area needs more tourists. He said there have
been so many other projects leave the area because the community
cant agree and he is afraid the community will lose this project as well.
As the owner of a gift show, he did say he would prefer if the proposed
concept did not have gift shops as they would compete, but supports the
memorial project.
Individual spoke against the project.
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