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Iamevaluatingaoldsetofdrawingsforavibratoryscreenwiththefollowing
specifications:
VibratingFrameWeight(LF):2265pounds
Inclined2bearing"unbalanced"style
Counterweight(CW):85poundstotal
EccentricityofCounterweightfromShaft(R):2.5"
ShaftSpeed:900rpm
UsingtheVSMAandgeneralengineeringformulasIcalculated:
StaticMoment=212.5inchpounds
DynamicMoment=425inchpounds
Stroke=0.188inches
gFactor=2.2g
Thedrawingindicatesusingcoilspringswiththefollowingspecs:
WireDiameter:0.5inchOilTemperedSteelWireASTMA229MBGrade
CoilMeanDiameter:3.415inches
CoilOD:3.915inches
FreeLength:12inches
SpringRate:195poundsperinch
TotalCoils:13.5
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ActiveCoils:11.5
Thereare8springsused,2ineach"corner".FromthisIcalculatedthestaticdeflection
tobeabout1.45inches.Typicallyitseemslikespringsarechosenthatdeflectabout
30%oftheirmaximumtohandlethestaticloadbutthatleavesunansweredhowto
properlysizethespringtohandletheoscillatingload.
Ithoughtaboutusingthe0.188strokebutduringstart/stopthescreensofthistype
exhibitMUCHmoretravelthantheoperatingstrokeatfullspeed.Ialsothoughtabout
usingthe2.2gaccelerationandensuringthespringcoulddeflectenoughtohandlethe
622poundtransientforcethatsuchanaccelerationproducesonthismuchmassper
the(Force=mass*acceleration)formulabuttheaccelerationisforsuchashort
amountoftimethespringdoesn't"seem"tohaveenoughtimeto"react"anddeflect
the2.9inchesthespringratewouldcalculatefortheresultantforce.Likelybecause
thespringrateformulaassumesitisa"static"loadforeaseofcalculation.
Whatistheruleofthumborproceduretochoosetheproperspringtohandlethe
dynamicloadinginthissituationorwithvibratoryscreensingeneral?Spring
manufacturersaskwhattheL1andL2loadsarebutIhesitatetogivethemanL2load
byusingF=maorjustgivingthemthedeflection@L2fromtheestimatedstroke.
Thanksforwadingthroughallthisexplanation.

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thanksforthetechicalquestion.Manyofourpengtypecontributorscangiveyoua
moremathematicaltechnicalanswerbut,generally.
Mostscreenersuseverticalcoilspringswhichwillelimateplusminus90%ofthe
inertiaormotionofthemovingbodydownthrutheverticallineofthecoilspringinto
thestructure.
Whenthescreenisoperatingthatisonething,butwhenitshutsdownitmusthandle
theERRATICFORCESofthe2bearingheavyflywheelwgtswhicharetryinginthelast
30secondsoframpdownonshutdowntoHOPJUMPANDSOMEHOWcometoastop
eventually.Thisisthenatureofthebeastona2brgcirclethrowdesignunit.Sothe
COILSPRINGSmustbeabletohandlethatshutdowndynamicwithoutbreakingandwe
typicallywouldhavea4"keeperconeonthespringTOPMOUNTINGPLATEtohelp
keepthespringswiththemachinevshavingthescreenboxjumpofftheCOIL
SPRINGS.
DonotbeafraidtoconsidertheuseofFIRESTONEMOUNTS,verticalrubbermounts
whichworkverynicelyandmuchquieter.

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Also,planC.......considerROSTATYPESCISSORMOUNTS.....EXCELLENT....which
dissipatethevibrationonshutdowninahorizontalplanevsdownthruthestructure
andissuperbifyouareworriedaboutstructuralvibration.

BestRegards,
GeorgeBaker
RegionalSalesMgrCanada
TELSMITHInc
Mequon,Wisconsin
15192426664Cell
E:(work)gbaker@telsmith.com
E:(home)gggman353@gmail.com
website:www.telsmith.com
Manufacturerofportable,modularandstationarymineralprocessingequipmentforthe
aggregateandminingindustries.

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DearChrome,
Firstlyletmecommentthatthe0.188inchscreenstrokeat900rpm(giving2.2g
acceleration)seemsverylow,andwouldnotinnormalapplicationsprovideefficient
screening.ReferVSMAforsuggestedstrokevspeedcombinations.
Howeverignoringthisforthemoment:
AsguruGeorgepointsout,whenselectingsupportspringsforvibratingequipmenta
primaryobjectiveistoachievegoodisolationefficiencyi.e.:=>90%,andpreferably
=>95%,withabout98%consideredcommerciallyperfect.
Insimpletermsthegreaterthespringcompressionunderload(thesofterthespring),
themoreefficientwillbeitsisolationefficiency,andthelowertheoperatingfrequency
ofthescreen,thegreaterwillbethecompressionrequiredtoachieveanominated
efficiency.
Inyourcaseafrequencyof900rpmwouldrequireaspringcompressionunderloadof
0.49inchestogivea90%isolationefficiency,0.93inchestogive95%,and2.26
incheswouldgive98%.Thespringdimensionsyoudescribe(with1.47inchesstatic
deflection)wouldachieve97%isolation,whichwouldbesatisfactory.
Furthermoreasyoupointoutwemustensurethatthespringwillnotbottomoutduring
operation,andparticularlyduringtheincreasedmotionatshutdownasthescreen
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coaststhroughthenaturalfrequencyofthespring.Normallyaminimumallowanceof
1.25to1.5inchesfromthesolid(fullycompressed)springheighttothecompressed
heightunderloadwilladequatelycaterforthis.Onceagainthespringdimensionsyou
nominateseemsatisfactorywithapprox3.8inchesfromsolidtocompressedheight.
Italsoshouldbenotedthehighertheisolationefficiencyofthespringthelowerwill
beitsnaturalfrequencyandthelesswillbethebounceatrundown.

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Thanksforlookingatthesituationguys.
John,Iamcuriousastowhatmethodyouareusingtospecifythedeflection
dampeningrelationship.Ihavefoundseveralformulasthatrelatetotransmissibility
butnottoanactualdeflectionofaspringsystem.
Ilookedintosomevibrationcontrolcatalogsandusedtheformulaspresentedtoarrive
atthefollowing:
Thespringalonehasanaturalfreqofaround52Hz.ForthespringmasssystemIused
theformulafornaturalfrequencyof3.13*[(K/W)^.5]whereKisthespringrateandW
isthesystemweight.
SoFn=3.13*(195/(2265/8)^.5=2.59Hzforanaturalfrequencyofthesystem.
IusedtheequationforTransmissibilityof1/[((Fd/Fn)^2)1]whereFdisthedisturbing
frequencyof900rpm~15HzandFnisthethe2.59Hzsolvedforabove.The
TransmissibilityIgotwasaround0.03whichisfarintotheregionofisolation.
AccordingtothecommentaryinthecatalogswhentheFd/Fnratioisaround1iswhen
yougettheamplificationofoutputtoinputweseeinspringswherethescreensbounce
45timeswhattheydonormallyastheypassthroughthenaturalfrequencyofthe
system.
Couldyouprovideabitofexplanationofhowyouarriveatthefiguresyouquote?I
foundoneofyourearlierpostswhereyoulistrpmsfrom750to1800andgivea
deflectioninmmrequiredtoachieve95%isolationbuttherewasnomethodshown.
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Myroughworkingsfollow
THENATURALFREQUENCYOFASPRING
Thenaturalfrequencyofaspring(fn)determinesitsefficiencyasanisolator.
Effectiveisolatorshavealownaturalfrequency.
NaturalFrequency(fn)=188/SQRTeffectivedeflection(ins)
oronourcase
=188/SQRT(1.45)=156.13rpm

INSULATIONRATIO
Theinsulationratio(z)istheratiooftheimposedfrequency(fd)tonaturalfrequency
(fn)
InsulationRatio(z)=fd/fn
orinourcase
=900/156.13=5.76

TRANSMISSIBILITY
Transmissibility(T)istheamountofvibrationenergythatistransmittedtothesupport
structure.
Transmission(T)=1/(z^21)
orinourcase
=1/(5.76^21)=0.03

ISOLATIONEFFICIENCY
Isolationefficiencyistheamountofvibrationenergypreventedfrombeingtransmitted
throughthespring.
IsolationEfficiency=100(Tx100)
orinourcase
=100(0.03x100)=97%isolationefficiency

p.s.todeterminetherequiredloadedspringdeflectiontoachieveanominated
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efficiency,simplytransposetheformula:
forexample,whatloadedspringdeflectionisrequiredtoachieve97%isolation
efficiencyata900rpmimposedfrequency

Requiredtransmission(T)=(100isolation%)/100=(10097)/100=0.03

RequiredNaturalFrequencyofSpring(fn)=Fd/SQRT((1/T)+1)
=900/SQRT((1/0.03)+1)156rpm

RequiredSpringDeflection=(188/fn)^2=(188/156)^2=1.45

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Ok,Iseeitnow.Ididn'trealizethe0.03IgotforavalueofTransmissibilitywas
wherethe97%Isolationcamefrom,duh
Wewereusingthesameformulasjustslightlyrearrangedsinceyouleftfrequencyin
termsofRPMwhileIwasusingHzandyouhadtheSQRTofstaticdeflectioninthe
denominatorwhileIhasitsreciprocalcomponentsinthenumeratoroftheFnformula.
Foranyoneelsefollowingalonginthisthreadinmyformula:
3.13*[(K/W)^.5]
noticehowIhadtogettheterm"W"bydividingthetotalsprungmassbythenumber
ofspringssupporting(i.e.2265/8).TheinverseoftheK/Wtermisbydefinitionthe
staticdeflection.

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DearMr.John
FirstImustthankyouforaveryinformativepost.
Pleasebekindenoughtoclarifythefollowing:
a.Iwouldliketoknowhowyouarrivedat2.2gaccelerationfromRPMandStroke.
b.HowcantheVibrationAccelerationdatabeusedtodetermineStrokeSpeed
Combinations
c.Howdoesthesizeandnatureofthematerialtobescreenedaffectthedesign
requirementofVibrationacceleration
ThanksaLot,
Regards,
Keshav

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HiKeshav,
Totryandansweryourquestions:
(Qa).Iwouldliketoknowhowyouarrivedat2.2gaccelerationfromRPMandStroke.
(A).
g=(stroke(mm)xrpm^2)/1,800,000
(thisformulahasbeensimplifiedandisnotexactbutiscloseenoughforallpractical
purposeshere)
Thereforeinourexampleof0.188inch(4.8mm)screenstrokeat900rpm
g=(4.8x900^2)/1,800,000=2.2

(Qb).HowcantheVibrationAccelerationdatabeusedtodetermineStrokeSpeed
Combinations
&
(Qc).Howdoesthesizeandnatureofthematerialtobescreenedaffectthedesign
requirementofVibrationacceleration
(A)Thesetwoquestionsarebestansweredtogether.
Asastartingpoint:
Thecombinedeffectofcorrectstrokeandscreeningfrequencyare
amoungstthemostimportantconsiderationsinachievinggoodscreening
efficiency
Itisthesetwofactors(strokeandfrequency)thatdeterminescreen
acceleration('g'factor),andthisfactorshouldbeheldwithincertainlimits.
Howeveritisquitepossibletoalsoachievethesame'g'factorwithpoor
strokeand/orfrequencyselections,andthushaveinefficientscreening.
Inotherwordsthe'g'factorneedstobewithincertainlimitsbutbeingwithinthose
limitsdoesnotinitselfimplygoodscreeningconditions.Itisthetheactualstrokeand
frequencyselectionthatisimportant.
Stroke
Ifthescreenstrokeistoosmallcapacitywillbereducedandmaterialmayclogor
wedgeintheopenings.Thestrokehowevershouldnotbesogreatthatitwillinterfere
withstratificationandtendtothrownearsizeparticlesoutoftheaperturesbeforethey
havehadachancetoadjustthemselvesandpassthrough.Toomuchstrokewillalso
decreasethelifeofthescreeningmedium,bearings,andscreenframecomponents.
Apracticalruleofthumbisthatifmaterialisjumpingviolentlyinsteadofflowing,
chancesarethestrokeistoogreat.
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Themagnitudeofstrokeisusuallyselectedinrelationtothelargestsplitsizerequired.
i.e.:thetopdeckaperturesize.Thethinkinghereisthatthetopdeckwiththelargest
particlesandaperturesizeswillrequireagreaterstrokethanthelowerdecksandif
thetopdeckdoesnotscreenefficientlythenthelowerdeckswillnothavethe
opertunitytodoso.
Frequency
Thefrequencyofvibrationwilleffectscreeningbyincreasingordecreasingthenumber
ofimpactsbetweenthescreeningmediumandthematerial.Thespeedselectedmust
befastenoughtomaintainthenecessarytravelrateandlivelinessintheoversizebed.
Theselectedspeedhoweverisnotalwayscorrectformaximumcapacityorhighest
efficiency,butisdirectlyrelatedtotherequiredstroke.Thisisdonetoobtain
acceptablebearinglife,andtokeepstressesinsuchcomponentsasdeckframesand
sideplatesetc.towithinestablishedlimitsforgoodlife.
Thesensitivityofbearinglifeexpectancytospeedcannotbeoveremphasised.This
effectcanbeappreciatedbyconsideringthatforagivenstroke,a10%increasein
speedwillshortenbearinglifeexpectancyby50%,andanincreaseof20%willreduce
lifeexpectancyto25%oftheinitialvalue.
Inbriefthestrokeandfrequencyofvibrationarecloselyrelated,andforeverysize
andkindofmaterialtherewillbeanidealcombination.Ifdecreasedstrokeisselected
thefrequencyshouldbeincreased,andwhereincreasedstrokeisusedthefrequency
mustbereducedforthereasonsoutlinedabove.
Everymanufacturerwillhavehisownthoughtsandstandardsforstrokeandspeed
combinations,butagoodstartingpointisthetablelistingintheVSMAmanualwhich
willprovesatisfactoryformostapplications.Howeverthesemaysometimesneedto
bemodifiedsincetheproductshandleddifferphysicallywithregardtoshape,
irregularityofsurface,moisturecontent,andthepercentageofclaysandmicronsize
finespresent.
Thegfactor
Alimitmustbeplacedonthegfactorduetomechanicaldesignofthescreenbut
circularmotionscreensgenerallyrunataround3.54.0gwhilelinearmotionscreens
fromsay4.5toaround5.5g.Theidealistoaimforthelowest'g'thatwill
satisfactorilydotherequiredjob.
InsummarythestepsIwouldusetodeterminestrokespeedcombinationsare:
1. Selectthescreenstrokeinrelationtotopdeckaperturesizi(referVSMA
manual)
2. Selecttheaccompanyingscreenfrequency(rpm).Thiscanbedonefrom
theVSMAtable,butifdifferingcheckthatitdoesnotexceedallowable'g'
factor

Hopethisanswerssomeofyourquestions,butalwayshappytodiscussfurtherif
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