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tomorrow. I'm hoping that you are ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday
this week?
Thanks,
Jen Fretz, PEng
Public Works & Utilities Director
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, David Trawin <dtrawin> wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kamloops
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ajax...
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Jen Fretz
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Donovan Cavers
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31/08/2015 8:41 AM
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Hi Donovan,
I'm sorry but I'm pretty booked today. I could meet you for coffee or for a quick meeting this morning (I will need to
be done by 11:30) or this afternoon between 1:30 and 2:30.
Donovan
On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:03 PM, <jfretz@ kamloops.ca> < jfretz@ kamloops.ca> wrote:
Hi Donovan,
The staff people that I need information from in order to respond are on holidays tomorrow. I'm hoping
that you are ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday this week?
Thanks,
Jen Fretz, PEng
Public Works & Utilities Director
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, David Trawin <dtrawin > wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
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Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kamloops
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ajax...
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Do you have time to make a trip DT to City Hall? or lunch downtown somewhere good?
12 or 12:30?
Donovan
On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:03 PM, <ifretz@kamloops.ca> <jfretz@kamloops.ca> wrote:
Hi Donovan,
The staff people that I need information from in order to respond are on holidays tomorrow. I'm
hoping that you are ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday this week?
Thanks,
Jen Fretz, PEng
Public Works & Utilities Director
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, David Trawin <dtrawin> wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kamloops
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Donovan Cavers
Karnloops City Councillor
dcavers@karnloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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. Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent*) Ajax ...
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that's no problem*
Thanks for the understanding. Sorry to email on the weekend about this topic.
Donovan
On Aug 30, 2015, at 4:03 PM, <jfretz@kamloops.ca> <jfretz@kamloops.ca> wrote:
Hi Donovan,
The staff people that I need information from in order to respond are on holidays tomorrow. I'm
hoping that you are ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday this week?
Thanks,
Jen Fretz, PEng
Public Works & Utilities Director
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, David Trawin <dtrawin> wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kamloops
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thanks,
Donovan Cavers
Kam.loops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ahax...
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Hi Donovan,
The staff people that I need information from in order to respond are on holidays tomorrow. I'm hoping that you are
ok with me responding to your email on Tuesday this week?
Thanks,
Jen Fretz, PEng
Public Works & Utilities Director
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, David Trawin <dtrawin> wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kam loops
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...
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??? Based on the conversation we just had that is your way of playing judge and jury ???
#unreal
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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.. .I know that council and the public will dictate what our
consultant focuses on but the post has rendered me
somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ...do you
believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of
the areas of concern Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring
forward as per the public consultation plan within the
provincially dictated time frame?
Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director
of the most challenging department, in the entire city,
whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWG
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and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job.
...the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us
right?
David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up'
because as one of the nine voices on city council I know
(because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures)
that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds
that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed
over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures
I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism
totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder
[[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as
CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a lot of
sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive).
Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job
also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck
sakes!!!! #climatechange
...At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that
probably balances off your investment choices to some
degree when it comes to the open pit mine "proplorsell".
Donovan
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, <dtrawin@kamloops.ca>
<dtrawin@kamloops.ca> wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kamloops
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Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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I'm incredibly saddened and shocked by Donovan's response below and feel compelled to express a desire to
see some strong formal censure for this behaviour.
Arjun
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On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city.kamloops.bc.ca> wrote:
Fuck professionalism when it come to an OPEN PIT MINE IMMEDIATELY BESIDE
PACIFIC WAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!
.. .2 more votes against and it would be buried now ...imagine moving on to something else?
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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looking into this if these types of comments and email tones continue.
Peter Milobar
Mayor, City of Kamloops
...I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant
focuses on but the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the
choice of consultant ...do you believe SLR will be able to
"satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern Kamloopsians will
FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan within the
provincially dictated time frame?
Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most
challenging department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal
representative on the TWG and you, and your crew/team, are doing a
stellar job.
...the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?
David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as
one of the nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the
annual director financial disclosures) that your investments are "heavily
weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that
hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial
disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally
supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee
hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their
managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week ( some Tuesdays
inclusive). Having said that I think you're doing a phenomenal job also.
Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck sakes!!!!
#climatechange
...At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably
balances off your investment choices to some degree when it comes to
the open pit mine "proplorsell".
Donovan
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Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Fuck professionalism when it come to an OPEN PIT MINE IMMEDIATELY BESIDE PACIFIC WAY
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!
... 2 more votes against and it would be buried now ...imagine moving on to something else?
Donovan Cavers
Karn.loops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Jen and David,
For context the quote I posted in the original email is apparently pulled directly off
of the SLR website ... doesn't bode well for their ability to look in-depth at the
probable city wide negatives associated with the project being approved. And I say
negatives because the company will without a doubt cover off the 'positives' in the
'lovely' docomements that they submit to the BCEAO .
.. .I know that council and the public will dictate what our consultant focuses on but
the post has rendered me somewhat skeptical of the choice of consultant ... do you
believe SLR will be able to "satisfactorily" address ALL of the areas of concern
Kamloopsians will FOR SURE bring forward as per the public consultation plan
within the provincially dictated time frame?
Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most challenging
department, in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the
TWG and you, and your crew/team, are doing a stellar job .
...the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?
David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the
nine voices on city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial
disclosures) that your investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into
oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director
financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly certain that your professionalism totally
supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder [[long into the wee hours
occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their managers, have a
lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that I
think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks"
for f*ck sakes!!!! #climatechange
... At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably balances off your
investment choices to some degree when it comes to the open pit mine
"proplorsell".
Donovan
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Hi David,
Can you comment on this screen shot taken from the 'top
comment' posted on the new online publication?
<image2.PNG>
"News Kamloops"
... Mel Rothenberger and Mike Youds are behind "News
Kamloops"
thanks,
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ajax...
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Donovan,
Your email is beyond unprofessional. It is one thing to question yet again SLR as the consultant.
However I can not believe, or sit quiet, as you not only question Mr. Trawin's professionalism but also his
choice of investments and where he may or may not choose to live. The topper is a not so subtle and totally
crass comment trying to direct him to divest of stocks of his choosing for his private investment reasons.
Your comments and add on's in this email and many others ( using an asterisk doesn't make the swearing
better) are in my opinion continually treading a fine line. I would suggest we meet to go over what
appropriate communications are .
You can choose not to but I would point out that other cities Councils have had to wind up putting members
under censure and I would frankly not be opposed to looking into this if these types of comments and email
tones continue.
Peter Milobar
Mayor, City of Kamloops
Despite the way I might come across ... you are the director of the most challenging department,
in the entire city, whilst acting as the municipal representative on the TWG and you, and your
crew/team, are doing a stellar job.
...the better job the consultants do the less work it is for us right?
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David- I get uber nervous when this type of thing 'crops up' because as one of the nine voices on
city council I know (because I've seen the annual director financial disclosures) that your
investments are "heavily weighted" toward funds that are into oil, gas, coal, etc, etc, and that
hasn't changed over the last 3 years of annual director financial disclosures I've seen. I'm nearly
certain that your professionalism totally supercedes personal biases but it makes me wonder
[[long into the wee hours occasionally]] because you, as CAO, and your directors, and their
managers, have a lot of sway every day of the week (some Tuesdays inclusive). Having said that
I think you're doing a phenomenal job also. Just nix the "extractive resource stocks" for f*ck
sakes!!!! #climatechange
...At least live up in Aberdeen near the mine site so that probably balances off your investment
choices to some degree when it comes to the open pit mine "proplorsell".
Donovan
On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:56 AM, <dtrawin@kamloops.ca> <dtrawin@kamloops.ca> wrote:
I will leave it to Jen to comment
David Trawin
Chief Administrative Officer
City of Kamloops
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - Re: (not urgent) Ajax ...
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On Aug 29, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Donovan Cavers <dcaversx@city.kamloops.bc.ca> wrote:
Hi David,
Can you comment on this screen shot taken from the 'top comment' posted on the
new online publication?
<image2.PNG>
"News Kamloops"
... Mel Rothenberger and Mike Youds are behind "News Kamloops"
thanks,
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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Modesta Luca - (not urgent) Ahax...
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Hi David,
Can you comment on this screen shot taken from the 'top comment' posted on the new online publication?
Donovan Cavers
Kamloops City Councillor
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dcavers@kamloops.ca
@donovancavers
250.852.2264
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