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Project Name Prepared MKR
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Customer / Consultant M/s. FICHTNER Consulting Engineers (India) Pvt. Ltd. Checked: PJD
Ref. Letter no. / Date. comments vide letter and hardcopy of SLD dated Dt:15.02.2010
13.01.2010
Document Ref. No / SINGLE LINE DIAGRAM / 1CYJ318002A387 / Rev.A Rev Sent B
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Fault level shall be for 60kA for 3sec for Noted. The same has been incorporated
1. and attached herewith for your reference.
Main and Neutral side SPBD.

Rated Voltage level for PT sizing Noted. The same has been incorporated
2. and attached herewith for your reference.
calculations to be checked.

Generator Sub-Transient Reactance shall Noted and shall be part of generator

3. datasheet.
not be less than 13.23%

Enclosures:
a. PT sizing calculations//Rev- A – For information only.
b. CT sizing calculations//Rev- A – For information only.
c. Single Line Diagram//Rev-B – 1CYJ318002A387
 SINGLE LINE DIAGRAM
SIEMENS LTD.

INSTALLATION:- M/s BLA POWER PVT.LTD.1X43MW

CUSTOMER:- M/s. BLA POWER PVT.LTD.

CUSTOMER'S BLA/POWER/GADARWARA/ DRAWING REFERENCE

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Engineers(India) Private limited

CONTRACTOR:- M/s. SIEMENS LTD. SINGLE LINE DIAGRAM

M/s. BLA POWER PVT.LTD. 1X43MW
M/s. BLA POWER PVT.LTD.
FICHTNER Consulting Engineers(India) Private Ltd.

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 132 KV BUS

6.6 KV BUS

52/62 MVA, 11/132kV,

GENERATOR
TRANSFORMER
Customer's Scope A UNIT AUXILIARY TRANSFORMER:
7 / 8 MVA, 11 / 6.9 kV

SIEMENS
Scope
(T1, T2, T3) TO GEN. TRANSFORMER DIFF. PROTECTION PANEL (CUSTOMERS SCOPE) Customer's Scope
P2
FOR PROTECTION CTR. : 3600/1A,
3
CORE-1 S2 CLASS : PS
S1
FOR SPARE (FOR FUTURE USE) SIEMENS
Scope
CTR. : 3600/1A,
3
CLASS : PS T19, T20, T21
CORE-2 S2
S1 Core-1
A A A Core-2 A T22, T23, T24
CLASS : PS
P1 CTR. : 500/1A, For Spare CLASS : PS
FOR CUSTOMER'S CLASS : PS CTR. : 500/1A,
UAT DIFF. PROTECTION CTR. : 500/1A, FOR OVERALL DIFF.

P1 3 3 P2 P1 3 P2

S1 S2 S1 S2 S1 S2

3 Ph, 11 kV, 630 Amp Tee - off SPBD of Aluminium SC level: 60kA for 3 Seconds

FOR PROTECTION (GPR#2)

(T4, T5, T6) P2 CTR. : 3600/1A,
3 CLASS : PS
CORE-1 1S2
1S1
FOR AVR (CHANNEL#2) TO CUSTOMER'S
UAT DIFF. PROTECTION FOR OVERALL DIFF
CTR. : 3600/1A, PANEL
3
CORE-2 2S2 CLASS : 0.2, 30VA
2S1

P1

(T7, T8, T9) FOR PROTECTION (GPR#1)

P2 CTR. : 3600/1A,
3
1S2 CLASS : PS
CORE-1 1S1 FOR AVR (CHANNEL#1)
CTR. : 3600/1A,
3
CORE-2 2S2 CLASS : 0.2, 30VA
2S1

P1

FOR SPARE (FOR FUTURE USE)

(T10, T11, T12) P2
CTR. : 3600/1A,
3
1S2 CLASS : 0.2 INPUT FROM
CORE-1 1S1
FOR METERING CVT'S / BUS PT'S
CTR. : 3600/1A, (CUSTOMER'S SCOPE)
3
2S2 CLASS : 0.2, 30VA
CORE-2 2S1

P1
Tee-Off LA, SC, & PT Panel

IPT GENERATOR PROTECTION RELAY PANEL METERING SECTION SYNCH. SECTION AVR PANEL
110V 110V Cl: 6P, 7.5VA (2A+1M)
PROT.-1 (SEC.-1) UNITROL
CLASS : 3P / 30VA 3 3
PT FUSE 3 1 6080
3A, 11kV FOR STATOR V F A MW MVA MVAR PF TVM
E/F PROTECTION
MCB AVR CH#1 (SEC.-2)
Tee - off connection of 630 Amp TP for LAVT from Main SPBD

PT-1 SP, 6Amps CLASS : 0.2 / 30VA GPR.#1 GPR.#2

11kV 110V 110V
3 Ph, 11 kV, 3500 Amp TP Main SPBD of Aluminium

A
3 3 3
25 S DV DF
PROT.-2 (SEC.-1) 86A1 86B1 86C1 86A2 86B2 86C2
PT FUSE
3A, 11kV
3 CLASS : 3P / 30VA
AVR
SYNCH. & MET
0.25µF/12kV
25A - DIGITAL AUTO SYNCH.
MCB (SEC.-2)
SC level: 60kA for 3 Seconds

PT-2 CLASS : 0.2 / 30VA

11kV 110V 110V SP, 6Amps 1 1 1
SC level: 60kA for 3 Seconds

A MF-TDR MF-TDR MF-TDR 1

3 3 3 SPARE (SEC.-1) 1 20-Hz-
12kV/10KA ANN 64R TS 20-Hz- Band-Pass 27I 27R 25G 25X
CLASS : 3P / 30VA Generator
A PT FUSE 3 Filter
3A, 11kV

MW-TDR
MVAR
Spare

MVA
MW
Vyb
Vbr
Vry

PF
B

Ib
Iy
F

Ir
MCB AVR CH#2 (SEC.-2)
PT-3 SP, 6Amps CLASS: 0.2 / 30VA
11kV 110V 110V
A
3 3 3

SYNCHRONOUS ROTOR EXCITER

GENERATOR
GOVERNOR FOR 3Ø,415V / 225V
G
GENERATOR PMG A
CUSTOMER's DCS LOAD CONTROL
with PMG E G 8 kVA, DY5
~ ~
11kV, 0.80 pf, ~
Standby
3Ø, 50Hz Excitation
45 MW (With VWO) Trafo
3000Rpm, 2952 A (Siemens
scope)
FOR PROTECTION (GPR#1)
P2
(T13, T14, T15) 3 CTR. : 3600/1A, 3Ø, 415V
1S2 CLASS : PS AUX. SUPPLY
CORE-1 1S1
FOR PROTECTION (GPR#2)
3 CTR. : 3600/1A,
2S2 CLASS : PS
CORE-2 2S1

P1
TO OVERALL DIFF. PROTECTION RELAY (CUSTOMER'S SCOPE)
(T16, T17, T18) P2
CTR. : 3600/1A,
3
FOR PROTECTION S2 CLASS : PS
CORE-1 S1
Spare
60 kA for 3 Seconds

A A
BUS DUCT 3500 A

3
CTR. : 3600/1A,
CORE-2 S2 CLASS : PS
S1

P1
B

BUS DUCT N
630 Amp SP connection for NGT

NEUTRAL GROUNDING
L
TRANSFORMER WITH RESISTOR

S1 S2 S1 S2 S1 S2
SINGLE LINE DIAGRAM
P1 P2 P1 P2 P1 P2

1 1 1

11kV/ 3 / 240V CTR.: 300/1A, CTR.: 300/1A, CTR. : 400/5A, M/s BLA POWER PVT.LTD. 1X43 MW
CL.5P10,15VA CL.5P10,15VA MINIATURE CT FOR 100% STATOR
65 KVA for 60 sec
A A
FOR 100% E/F PROTECTION M/s BLA POWER PVT.LTD.
A STATOR E/F 0.90 omhs, 65KW for 60Sec. A

FICHTNER Consulting Engineers(India) Private Ltd.

E (PLANT EARTH - CUSTOMER'S SCOPE)

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NOTES:

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M/s BLA POWER PVT.LTD.
FICHTNER Consulting Engineers(India) Private Ltd.

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E O SU VAD-PE I&C\General\Calculation\CT Calculations

TYPE OF DOCUMENT : CT sizing calculations.

PROJECT : BLA POWER PVT. LTD 1X43MW

CUSTOMER : M/s. BLA POWER PVT. LTD.

CONSULTANT : FICHTNER CONSULTING ENGINEERS (INDIA) PVT. LTD.

FOR INFORMATION ONLY

A 15.02.2010 Revised as per customer comment on Fault level. MKR PJD BD

Rev.No. Date Description Prepared: Checked: Approved:

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[A] For Generator Protection/Metering/AVR

• CT RATIO SELECTION CALCULATION

PARAMETER VALUE UNIT

Rated Power 45 MW

Rated Voltage 11 kV

Rated Power Factor 0.8 P.F.

Rated Current 2952.4 Amps

Safety Margin / Overload Criteria 1.2

Current
3542.9 Amps
(After Safety Margin of 20%)
CT Primary Current Selected 3600 Amps
1
CT secondary current selected Amps

• CT BURDEN SELECTION CALCULATION

METERING CURRENT TRANSFORMER

Burden(VA) TOTAL
Description UNIT
per UNIT (VA)
Cable of 2.5 mm2 of 60 meters length. 0.86 1 0.86
TVM 0.15 1 0.15
MW Transducer 0.3 1 0.3
Ammeter, PF, MW, MVAr & MVA meter 0.2 7 1.4
Multi-Transducres 0.3 3 0.9
Total 3.61 VA
20 % Margin 4.332 VA
Hence 30 VA is sufficient for Metering CT.

AVR CURRENT TRANSFORMER

Burden(VA) TOTAL
Description UNIT
per UNIT (VA)
Cable of 2.5 mm2 of 60 meters length. 0.86 1 0.86
PF Meter 5.0 1 5.0
Unitrol – 6080 Module 0.5 2 1.0
Total 6.86 VA
20 % Margin 8.23 VA
Hence 30 VA is sufficient for AVR CT.

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• PROTECTION CLASS CT DETAIL

As PS class CT is selected for protection purpose, there is no need for burden calculation at rated condition; however
it should be ensured that at plant fault level, CTs do not saturate. Hence the knee-point voltage of CTs shall be
designed as follows:
Vk > 2 * If (Rct + 2RL)
Where:
Vk = KNEE POINT VOLTAGE OF CT
If = FAULT CURRENT IN CT SECONDARY
= [SYSTEM FAULT CURRENT / CT RATIO] * SAFETY FACTOR

Calculation of If in CT secondary side:

Input Parameters for Calculation:
1. SYSTEM FAULT LEVEL of 60 kA for 3 Seconds
2. Design Safety Factor = 10%

If in CT secondary side = [60000 / 3600] *1*1.1

= 18.33 A

Calculation of Vk at maximum fault current and maximum design value of Rct:

Input Parameters for Calculation:
o
1. Maximum Design Value of Rct = 6 Ohms at 75 C
2. Maximum Lead Resistance RL = 0.5 Ohm
3. If in CT secondary = 18.33 Amp (As calculated above)

Vk > 2 * If * [Rct + 2 RL]

> 2 * 18.33 * [6+1]
> 257 V…………………………………………………………………. [Calculated at Rct of 6 Ohms]

4. Iµ: Magnetizing Current < 30mA @ Vk/2

The Rct value is subject to change and shall be confirmed by the CT manufacturer and hence the value of Vk shall be
accordingly governed by the above formula. In any case, the CT shall be designed to have Vk such that it does not
saturate at system fault level of 60 kA for 3 Seconds.

[B] For Generator Transformer CT

• The sizing for the CT used for Generator Transformer Protection is kept as same as line side CT’s as looking into the
plant SLD the current in GT would not be more than the Full Load Current of Generator.

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[C] For UAT CT’s in Tap-off Busduct.
• CT RATIO SELECTION CALCULATION

PARAMETER VALUE UNIT

Primary Voltage of UAT 11 kV

Secondary Voltage of UAT 6.6 kV

Rated MVA 8 MVA.

Rated Current 421 Amps

Safety Margin / Overload Criteria 1.2

Current
505 Amps
(After Safety Margin of 20%)
CT Primary Current Selected 500 Amps
1
CT secondary current selected Amps

• PROTECTION CLASS CT DETAIL

As PS class CT is selected for protection purpose, there is no need for burden calculation at rated condition; however
it should be ensured that at plant fault level, CTs do not saturate. Hence the knee-point voltage of CTs shall be
designed as follows:
Vk > 2 * If (Rct + 2RL)
Where:
Vk = KNEE POINT VOLTAGE OF CT
If = FAULT CURRENT IN CT SECONDARY
= [SYSTEM FAULT CURRENT / CT RATIO] * SAFETY FACTOR

Calculation of If in CT secondary side:

Input Parameters for Calculation:
3. SYSTEM FAULT LEVEL of 60 kA for 3 Seconds
4. Design Safety Factor = 10%

If in CT secondary side = [60000 / 500] *1*1.1

= 132 A

Calculation of Vk at maximum fault current and maximum design value of Rct:

Input Parameters for Calculation:
o
5. Maximum Design Value of Rct = 6 Ohms at 75 C
6. Maximum Lead Resistance RL = 0.5 Ohm
7. If in CT secondary = 132 Amp (As calculated above)

Vk > 2 * If * [Rct + 2 RL]

> 2 * 132 * [6+1]
> 1848 V…………………………………………………………………. [Calculated at Rct of 6 Ohms]

8. Iµ: Magnetizing Current < 30mA @ Vk/2

The Rct value is subject to change and shall be confirmed by the CT manufacturer and hence the
value of Vk shall be accordingly governed by the above formula. In any case, the CT shall be
designed to have Vk such that it does not saturate at system fault level of 60 kA for 3 Seconds.
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[D] For NGTR CT’s.

• CT RATIO SELECTION CALCULATION

PARAMETER VALUE UNIT

Primary Voltage of NGTR 11/ v3 kV

Secondary Voltage of NGTR 240 V

Fault Current to be limited in primary 10 A.

Current in the secondary 265 A.

CT Primary Current Selected 300 Amps

1
CT secondary current selected Amps

• CT BURDEN SELECTION CALCULATION

Protection
Burden(VA) TOTAL
Description UNIT
per UNIT (VA)
Cable of 2.5 mm2 of 60 meters length. 0.86 1 0.86
7UM622 burden 0.05 1 0.05
Total 0.91 VA
20 % Margin 1.092 VA
Hence 15 VA is sufficient for Metering CT.

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MS BLA Power Pvt Ltd\Electrical 'n'
E O SU VAD-PE I&C\General\Calculation\PT Calculations

TYPE OF DOCUMENT : PT CALCULATIONS

PROJECT : 1X43MW BLA POWER PVT. LTD.

CUSTOMER : M/s. BLA POWER PVT. LTD.

CONSULTANT : FICHTNER CONSULTING ENGINEERS PVT. LTD.

FOR INFORMATION ONLY

A 15.02.2010 Design Error MKR PJD BD

Rev.No. Date Description Prepared: Checked: Approved:

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PT CALCULATIONS:
v PT RATIO SELECTION

PARAMETER VALUE UNIT

Rated Voltage 11000 Volts

PT primary voltage Selected (L-N) 11000V/v3 Volts

PT secondary voltage Selected (L-N) 110V/v3 Volts

v PT BURDEN SELECTION CALCULATION

METERING / SYNCRONIZATION POTENTIAL TRANSFORMER

Description Burden (VA) UNIT TOTAL
per UNIT (VA)
V, MW, MVA, MVAR, PF, F Meters 0.2 6 1.2
TVM 0.6 1 0.6
MW Transducer 0.1 1 0.1
No Voltage Relay 2.0 1 2.0
Check Synchronizing relay 3.0 1 3.0
Syncronoscope 3.0 1 3.0
Auto Synchronizer 0.15 1 0.15
Double Voltmeter 4 1 4
Double Frequency meter 1.5 1 1.5
Multi-Transducers 0.3 3 0.9
Total 16.45 VA
20 % Margin 19.74 VA
Hence 30 VA is sufficient for METERING & SYNCH. PT.

PROTECTION POTENTIAL TRANSFORMER –

Description Burden (VA) UNIT TOTAL
per UNIT (VA)
Composite Protection Relay
0.5 2 1
7UM622
Total 1 VA
20 % Margin 1.2 VA
Hence 30 VA is sufficient for PROTECTION PT.

AVR POTENTIAL TRANSFORMER –

Description Burden(VA) UNIT TOTAL
per UNIT (VA)
Power Factor Meter 2.5 1 2.5
Generator Voltmeter 2.0 1 2.0
AVR module (Unitrol 6080) 0.2 1 0.2
Total 4.70 VA
20 % Margin 5.64 VA
Hence 30 VA is sufficient for AVR PT.

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