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HesitantParentusingCASE
RobertMJacobson,MD,FAAP
ProfessorofPediatrics,MayoClinic
Disclosures
Potentialconflict
PrincipalInvestigator
AdultPCV13Prevnar13vaccine(Pfizer)
MenveoMCV4vaccine(Novartis)
SafetyReviewCommitteeMember
GardasilHPV4vaccine(Merck)
DataandSafetyMonitoringBoardMember
15valentPCV(Merck)
Noofflabelusediscussion
LearningObjectives
Relateanewapproachtovaccinehesitancy
Identifyeachofits4components
Describehowitworksin3commonscenarios
TheStateofVaccination
Theantivaccinemovementisthriving
Successfulvaccinationmakesitsvalueinvisible
Mediaseekstoportraycontroversy,bothsides
Americansculturallyopposedtopublichealth
Vaccinehesitancymajorissue
Notjustamongexemptorsanddelayers
Even25to30%ofthoseuptodate
Educationorinformationtransferinsufficient
Bothclinicianandparentstruggle
TheClinicianintheOffice
Haslittletimefordiscussion
Suffersasenseofrejectionaswiseadvisor
Feelssenseoffutility
Recognizesproblemofhealthilliteracy
TheParentintheOffice
Wouldliketobeheard
Wishestoberespected
Seekscredibleinformation
Wantscontrol;wantstomakedecision
StudiesofParents
Wanttheirchildrentobehealthy
Seektomakerationaldecisions
Weighbenefitsandrisks
Respecttheclinicianastrustedsource
Drawfromtheavailableevidence
Theirownexperiencewiththediseases
Theirownexperienceswiththevaccine
Whattheyhearfromthemedia,family,friends
Whattheyhearfromtheclinician
WhattheCDCRecommends
Taketimetolisten
Solicitandwelcomequestions
Acknowledgerisksandbenefits
Havebothscienceandstoriesavailable
TakeTimetoListen
Eyetoeyecontact
Notjustasyouspeak
Butalsoasyoulisten
Lettheparentfinishspeaking
Resisttheurgetomultitaskduringconversation
SolicitandWelcomeQuestions
Askforquestions
Conveythatyouhavetimetoanswerthese
Giveshortenoughanswersthatmoreiswelcome
AcknowledgeRisksandBenefits
Whileseveresideeffectshappen,theyarerare
TheVISlistsknownsideeffects
OKtonotethatnotvaccinatingisalsorisky
HaveBothScienceandStories
Available
Whileyoumayfeelsaferwithscientificinfo
Mostparentspreferexperiencesyoucanshare
TheC.A.S.E.forVaccines
Anewmodelfortalkingtoparents
Amnemonictoorganizearapid,usefulresponse
DrawsfromAristotelianteachingonrhetoric
CreatedbyAlisonSinger,MD
President
AutismScienceFoundation
Lackspublishedstudiesofitsefficacy
Nonethelesshasfacevalidity,historicalroots
Lackscompetingalternatives
TheCASEAcronym
Corroborate
AboutMe
Science
Explain/Advise
TheCASEApproach
Corroborate:
Acknowledgetheparentsconcernandfindsomepointon
whichyoucanagree;setthetoneforarespectful,successful
talk
AboutMe:
Describewhatyouhavedonetobuildyourknowledgebaseand
expertise
Science:
Relatewhatthesciencesays
Explain/Advise:
Explainyouradvicetopatient,basedonthescience
BreakUpinTwos
Corroborate:
Acknowledgetheparentsconcernandfindsomepointon
whichyoucanagree;setthetoneforarespectful,
successfultalk
WHAT PHRASING HAVE
YOU FOUND HELPFUL
WHEN A PARENT
HESITATES ABOUT
ANYTHING?
Corroborate
Whatisyourmainconcern?
Dontpermitavaguerefusal
Maketheparentgetspecific
Then
That'savalidconcern
WhenIheardthat,Isoughtoutanswersmyself
Webothwantyourchildtobefreeofillnessand
injury
Webothwanttoavoidunnecessarymedications
andtheirsideeffects
BreakUpinTwos
AboutMe:
Describewhatyouhavedonetobuildyourknowledge
baseandexpertise
AboutMe
Imcommittedtoyourchildshealth,andIve
dedicatedmycareertothatwork
Ivebeenstudyingmedicineandpediatrics
nowforX years
OneoftheareaswhereIreadagreatdealis
aboutinfections,immunity,andvaccination
Vaccinationsrepresentamajorpartofmy
professionaleffortasyourchildspediatrician
BreakUpinTwos
Science:
Relatewhatthesciencesays
Science
Vaccinesarebetterstudiedthananyother
medicineIprescribeortestIorder
EachvaccineissaferthananymedicineI
prescribe
Vaccinesarenotfoolproofbuttheyarethe
mosteffectivemeanstopreventcertain
injuriesandillnesses
Thedecisionwhattogivewhenisbasedon
thevaccineseffectiveness,safety,andspecific
needforthechildatthatparticularage
BreakUpinTwos
Explain/Advise:
Explainyouradvicetopatient,basedonthe
science
Explain/Advise
ThatswhyIamrecommendingthisvaccine
Ifthisweremychild,Iwouldbevaccinating
hertoday
Igotthisvaccine
Imadesuremychildrengotthesevaccines
ThatswhyifIwereyou,Iwouldbegetting
thesevaccinesforyourchild
CisforCorroborate
YouandIultimatelywantthesamethingfor
yourchild.
Wewantyourchildhealthandfreeof
diseaseandinjury.
Iknowyouareworried,scared.
Itismyjobtohelpyouwithyourconcerns.
AisforAboutMe
Iamaprofessionalnotonlycommittedto
that,buttrainedandeducatedinthescience
ofhealthandmedicine.
Thatincludesvaccination.
Myexpertiseiswhyyoucametoseeme.
SisforScience
ThevaccinesIamrecommendingarethe
vaccinesIbelieveyourchildneeds.
Thesevaccineshavebeenprovenboth
effectiveageaswellassafeforchildrenyour
child'sage.
EisforExplain/Advise
Hereismyadvice:getthisvaccinetodayits
safe,itseffective,andyourchildwillbenefit
Ifyourchildweremine,Iwoulddothis.
Infact,doingsomaybemorevaluabletoyou
thananythingelsewedointhisvisit.
ThreeCommonConcerns
Vaccinesmaycauseautism
Toomanyvaccinestoosoonisharmful
Thevaccine(s)isnolongernecessary
TheCASEagainstAutism
Corroborate:
TherescertainlybeenalotonTVandtheinternet
aboutvaccinesandautismsoIcanunderstandwhy
youhavequestions
AboutMe:
IalwayswanttomakesureImuptodateonthe
latestinformationsothatIcandowhatsbestformy
patients,soIveresearchedthisthoroughly.
Infact,Ijustreturnedfromaprofessionalconference
whereexpertsreviewedtheactualevidence
MoreAgainstAutism
Science:
Theevidencedoesnotsupportthatmeasles
vaccine,theMMR,oranyvaccinecausesautism.
TheCDC,theAAP,theNIH,theIOM,andothers
haveallreviewedthedata
Allreachedthesameconclusion.
Dozensofstudieshavebeendone.
Noneshowalink.
FinishingtheCASEagainstAutism
Explain/Advise:
Vaccinesarecriticaltopreventingdeath,disease,
anddisability.
Theypreventdiseasesthatcauserealharm.
Choosingnottovaccinatedoesnotprotect
childrenforautism,butdoesleavethematriskfor
disease.
Childrenneedthesevaccines.
TheCASEagainstVaccineOverload
Corroborate:
Childrentodaycertainlygetmoreshotsthanthey
didyearsago.
AboutMe:
OurpracticefollowstheCDCschedulebecauseit
iscarefullydesignedtoprotectchildrenatthe
timetheyaremostvulnerabletodisease.
Ivereadthroughtherecommendations
carefully
MoreagainstVaccineOverload
Science:
Althoughchildrengetmoreshotstoday,they
actuallyreceivefewerimmunereactiveantigensthan
whentheygotfewershots,becausetechnologyhas
enabledustomakevaccinesthathaveonlythepart
ofthecellthatinducesimmuneresponse.
Plus,theimmunologicalchallengefromavaccineis
nothingcomparedtowhatkidsfightoffeveryday.
Anearinfectionisabiggerimmunological
challenge.
FinishingUpagainstOverload
Explain:
Wewantallthekidsinourpracticetobe
immunizedsothattheyhavethegreatestchance
foralong,healthylife.
Ifyourdaughterweremydaughter,andIwas
sittinginyourshoes,holdingherinmylap,I
wouldbegettinghervaccinatedtoday.
TheCASEagainstUnnecessary
Corroborate:
Icanunderstandwhyyoumightfeelthatway.
Mostofthetimewhenourchildrengettheflu,
wedonttestforit,andsoparentsdontknow
whentheirchildrenhavehadtheflu.
MoreagainstUnnecessary
AboutMe:
Iusedtothinkthatchildrennevergottheflubut
thestudiesarecompelling.
Inretrospectthosesorethroatswithfeverwith
negativestreptestingwereoftentheflu.
Samethingwiththevirusesleadinguptoear
infections
Samethingwithfeversandcoughsthatmadeus
worryaboutpneumonia.
MoreagainstUnnecessary
Science:
Thehospitalizationratesininfantslessthan2
duetotheflurivaltheratesintheelderly
Morethan40%ofschoolchildrengetthefluon
averageeveryyear
Thevaccineworksreallywell;itreducestherisk
by45to90%dependingontheyear
FinishingUpagainstUnnecessary
Explain:
Wecareaboutourpatientsanddontwantto
practicesubstandardcare.
Allourpatientsneedtobevaccinatedagainstthe
flu.
Mychildrenarefullyvaccinated.
Iamtoo.
TheCASEApproach
Corroborate:
Acknowledgetheparentsconcernandfindsomepointon
whichyoucanagree;setthetoneforarespectful,successful
talk
AboutMe:
Describewhatyouhavedonetobuildyourknowledgebaseand
expertise
Science:
Describewhatthesciencesays
Explain/Advise:
Giveyouradvicetopatient,basedonthescience
ClassicAristotelianRhetoric
AristotletaughttheCASEmethod
Topersuadeoneneedsmorethanjustevidence
Needthreethings
Logos (theinformationandreasoningyouhave)
Pathos (yourpassion,compassion,andconviction)
Ethos (yourprofessionalstandingw/theparent)
Rationale
Informationaloneinsufficient
Itsanemotionalinformationtoo
Oneneedstofeelgoodaboutthedecision
Onehastofeelstronglyaboutthedecision
Yourroleismorethanjustatechnicians
TheCASEApproach
Corroborate:
Acknowledgetheparentsconcernandfindsomepointonwhich
youcanagree;setthetoneforarespectful,successfultalk
(PATHOS)
AboutMe:
Describewhatyouhavedonetobuildyourknowledgebaseand
expertise(ETHOS)
Science:
Describewhatthesciencesays(LOGOS)
Explain/Advise:
Giveyouradvicetopatient,basedonthescience(PATHOS)
YourSourcesofInformation
Parentswantmorethaninformation
Wantstotrustyoubecauseofwhoyouare(ethos)
Expectsyoutohavepassionforwhatyouadvise
(pathos)
Youontheotherhandwantdatayoucantrust
Whataretheactualrecommendations?
Whatarethedatathatsupportthese?
Wherecanyoufindinformationtosupportyour
CASE?
SourceofRecommendations
AdvisoryCommitteeonImmunizationPractices
(ACIP)
Groupofvolunteerexperts
Meetsthreetimesayear
OrganizedbyCentersforDiseaseControland
Prevention(CDC)
Solesourceoffederalvaccinerecommendations
forcivilianpopulation
Thefederalgovernmentdoesnotrequirevaccines
Schoolanddaycaremandatesarestatebased
ACIPRecommendations
2012Child&AdolescentImmunizationSchedule
UpdatedatleastannuallyinJanuary
Providescatchupscheduletoo
Publishedwidelyindozensofjournals
AvailableonlinefromtheCDCVaccinessite
www.cdc.gov/vaccines
AAPandAAFPharmonizewithCDCACIP
AlsopublishestheAdultSchedule
VaccineSpecificDetails
ACIPpublishesitsrecommendationsinMMWR
Theseprovidedetails
Doseandroute
Timingvariationsandexceptions
Contraindicationsandprecautions
Otherissues
Basisforrecommendations
Wellreferenced
KnowhowtofindthemstartingatCDCvaccines
SpecificAdvicereParents
UnderstandingVaccinesandVaccineSafety
ResourcesforVaccineConversations
Factsheetsprovideinformationaboutvaccine
testing,safety,monitoring,andtheprocessfor
establishingtheUSimmunizationschedule
Letsfinditandreviewitscontents
StartattheCDCvaccinessite
www.cdc.gov/vaccines
CDCInformation
Dontplanonprintingandgivingtoparents
Dontplanonemailingthemthelinks
InsteadreadandremembertomakeyourCASE
OtherSources
AAPProviderResources
www2.aap.org/immunization
AAPParentResources
www.healthychildren.org
IACProviderResources
www.immunize.org
MNAAP
www.mnaap.org
Summary
Persuaderatherthaninform
CASE
CorroborateAboutMeScienceExplain/Advise
AristotelianRhetoric
PathosEthosLogosPathos
Knowyoursourcesofinformation
ACIPanditsrecommendations
CDCanditsresources