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How is everybody. This is online discussion room.We can chat here regarding 3rd semester course
contents and research etc.
7:30pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Rustam
Can anybody type here names of tools of fluency?

Why do we use tools of fluency only during speaking?

Aoa sir!Iam fine hope you are also fine.I am thankful to you for creating this room for us.It helps
us in increasing our knowlege.
8:01pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by momina
Thank you sir for making this room.

8:07pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by maida
Names of tools of fluency are:

To speak more fluently so that our words and thought stream together in a intelligient and precise
manner we use fluency tools in speaking.
AoA sir, thank you sir for creating this classroom for us .please someone tell me total number of
tool of fluency .
8:15pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by saba
Fluency is reading with accuracy, speed, and understanding. To read aloud with expression
requires an understanding of the texts meaning.
Thanks sir for creating a new room for us.

8:16pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Kainat
Tools of fluency are:

Tools of fluency are: 1)Assimilation 2) Elision 3) Linking 4) Strong week forms 5) Intonation and 6)
Constriction
Tools of fluency are:Elision,Asimilation,componding,linkingintonation,strong and weak form.

8:23pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Maida
aoa sir!
8:28pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Tehreem
i wanna discuss oral presentation

Aoa!
8:29pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Ayesha
Aoa thank you sir for creating a new class room.

Word building process:1) Extensive reading( The more you listen the more you speak. The more
you read the more you write)
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Tools of fluency :
we use fluency tools in speaking only because if we are going to use these tools in writing then
our writings deviates from standard english
Tools of fluency: Assimilation, Elision, Rhythm, Linking,strong and weak forms, intonation,
Contraction.
yes Ayesha is right.we have disussed 8 tools of fluency

Tehreem these are 7 tools of fluency kindly send us 8.

sorry kainat..7
ayesha mentioned all tools

its ok Tehreem.
can we discuss wwriting process?i m lil bit confuse

Yes why not?

first thing is that why we called writing as a process?? because it is a process that occurs in steps
all we have to follow steps for
Yes it is a process. The steps for writing are: Pre-writing stage means ideas. Then Drafting means
write and write. Then Revising stage.
Arranging of information. Then editing means correct the punctuations and spelling etc. Then
second draft means rewriting and proof reading.
Am i right?
for correct writing.for example if we wanna wrire an essay and we write it haphazardly without
any brainstorming or pre writing etc
Then our this essay will be much different from that one which is written after following all steps
of writing
which include prewiring,drafting.revising.editind and publishing

Yes you are write.

can anyone please tell me the elements of communication?

There are 6 elements of communication. Purpose, Audience, Style Coherence, Cohesion and logic.
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last one is logical development

Hy every one.Hows your preparation going?

Thanks Tehreem
Fine its going well with new style. Whats about you
Well i have recently joined you guys.Looks an interesting way to study.

can anyone tell me about subheadings of last stage of writting process .i-e.publishing??
Ok Are you Ayesha Abbasi?

Thank you tehreem

my pleasure..ayesha.....??
Yup guys I am ayesha abbasi.Well I am confused about main and sub parts of a technical
report.Could you guys help me out?
i think 5 chapters(intoduction,literature review,methodology,data analysis,findings) are main

parts.but not sure about it
Tehreem as far as i know there is no any sub heading for publishing.Its final stage
but sir told us about 2nd draft and proofreading?then these two headings are included in which
subheadinf/
We can help you. There are 5 main chapters in our report writing. Introduction, Literature review,
Data analysis Finding and recommandations
Aoa sir thanx for creating a new room for us this will help us to discuss the topics?
9:04pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by samra
sorry ..in which mainheading/

Sub headings are all those heading which comes under these chapters.
I think so it comes under publishing.

These two come before the publishing stage.Publishing indicates that our drafts is ready to
publish
ayesha abbasi !means in editing?

No. After editing and before publishing.
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plz tel me the sub headings in report writing except those in introduction.
I have noted it after editing stage.because i remember Sir told us later on that these comes before
publishing
yes Ayesha
tell me how we define sampling

Well come samra we are discussing the same.read kainat's message below she has mentioned
about subheadings dear
but ayesha abbais then there must be another heading na..how can these comes after editing and
before publishing?
Well come momina sampling is a technique by which we can collect our data
it means that either these two are sub headings of editing or main heading in process
thank you ayesha

also tell me that first drafet second draft is included in what

Haha dont worry about the headings tehreem.There can be 7 headings.

Momina these are the parts of writing process.

haha ayesha :P
plz ayesha tell me name of parts of writing process

But if you want only 6 heading you can mention in 2 or 3 lines about second draft and
proofreading after editing
Define bibliography please.

Not at all momina:)

Haha kainat bibliography will be defined by tehreem as i also dont have a proper definition of it
biblography is list of all sorces that we have used in the process of researching our work
Thanks Momina
ayesha why not
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mention not kainat

Momina thank you:)

mntion not ayesha dear...

prewriting drafting editing revising rewriting and publishing are stages of writing process
tell me profreading is include in what

A bibliography is a list of all of the sources you have used (whether referenced or not) in the
process of researching your work.
yup momina these all are stages of writing process

Momina dear proofreading and rewriting comes together in same heading ok

it includes:the authors' names,the titles of the works

okh tekh hai ayesha and tell me first draft is include in which catagory
I am going to tell What is population? All the participants in the study are called population.
thank you samra

First draft is in drafting stage.

Haha thank you kainat

anyone tell me how to define writing process

thank you ayesha

Momina please read the messages below we have discussed it in detail.You will find a good
definition below in messages
momna we disussed this..u can go through discussin

define profreading
Example is. Let's we want to investigate the impact of group work on reading skills on BS
students. So our population will be all BS studnts
okkh tehreem
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Carry on guys.I have a work I will join you later.

okh dear see u ayesha

Sample Size. We could not investigate all BS students. So we take sample size. Example is 200
students participated in the study.
Instruments. These are data collection tools used in research work. These tools included
interviews, audio recording, video recording,pretst
Post tests, observation sheets, questionnaire etc

kainat plz define profreading

After editing you have to rewrite your content. Then you have to check the mistakes. The checking
and correcting of mistakes is. profreading
oky thnx kainat

Samra any more question? i am here.

no
ok
in literature review what r the sub headinds of thiz/

Construct, Theoratical frame work and summary of previous work

and in 3rd,4th and 5th chapter

chapter 3. research methodology.1Research design, Population, sample size sampling technique

research tool and study procedure.
chapter 4. Data analysis Data tabulation, Results and discussion

chapter 5. finding and recomandation. findings, expert opinion and conclusion

thnx kainat
mention not samra

Hi. I want to discuss Layers of knowledge about words. Any body here to join me?
yah
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1. Meanings of the word. connotative meaning which are associated meanings. Denotative
meaning actual meaning of the word.
connotative is the actual meaning

2. Spelling of the word. correct spelling of the word is also the knowledge of vocabulary.
Not samra. Denotative is actual meaning of the word.

yah u r ryt
define blending anyone

Pronounciation is also the knowledge of word

blending is the word building process technique in which we get a new word by mixing two
words. example breakfast & lunch gives us brunch.
okh thank kainat

also define neologism

Collocation is also the knowledge of word. In language some words goes with certain sentences.
this is decided by native speakers.
Making totally new words in the language is called neologism. example is glubutt.
okh kainat dear thanks

spelling of words tell this

Grammatical category is also the knowledge of word. Its mean in which category of grammer its
lies. Is it a noun, verb etc.
total 5tools of vocabulary sir has tell us

You know the word but donot know the spelling. its means you donot kinow the word.
i know but i confused that how mention it example

Yes. Meaning, spelling, prononciation, collocation and grammatical category.

yes these
if you write college you know its meaning a studying place but you spell it wrong as kolg your
word will be wrong.
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okhh thanks kainait no its clear

total 3 word building process we have discussed na

Now i am going to discuss Word building process with example any body want to join me?
yes coinage back information and acronyum

yes to be continue i here to participate in it

no. we have discussed 10 word building process.

tell me name of these ten

We can build our vocabulary by using some techniques which are as follows. 1. Extensive reading.
2. Blending 3. Compounding 4.Borrowing
coinage back information came in this catagery

5. Clipping 6. Conversion 7. Neologism 8. coinage. 9. Back formation. 10. Acronym

Yes these all are word building techniques.

okhh i understood that thses are separate now its clear

define coinage
1 extensive reading. The more you read the more you write and the more you listen the more you
speak.
Momina wait i want to systematically.

it means that the more things u will read,u will be able to become a goog writer cz these two
things have direct relation
yes clipping is word formation process which consists in reduction of word to one of its part.
okhh kainat i paricipate after short time

2. Blending. when we mix two words and get a new word it is known as blending. Example is.
Breakfast and lunch. new word is brunch.
Compounding. Joining of two words together which can exist separately is known as
compounding. Example is classroom, bookstall etc
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4. Borrowing. some words are borrowed from other languages example is Time is borrowed from
english language in urdu language.
kainat example of borrowing can be Alcohol actually this word has been borrowed from Arabic.
pronounciation is not included in word building process.

a
pronounciation is a tool of vocabulary ayesha is

AoA sir
12:05am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by saba
What are the rules of multi Media presentation?

saba! rules for multimedia presentation and oral presentation are same i-e we have to be careful
about content,language,style etc.
12:15am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Tehreem
but the way in which we present things is different

tehreem what?
12:16am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Kainat
But tehreem Anita told me that 55 rules are the rules of multimedia
i mean to say that oral presentation and multimedia are same thing and we have to follow same
rules while giving thes 2 types of prsntation
OK I got u thanks
ok thanks kindly discuss oral presentation

only difference lies in presentation that how we present things..in multimedia presentation we
design slides but in oral we can deign chart
and also multimedia presentation.

kainat i am doing report now

we will discuss it after sometime plz

ok discuss it with me
ok
first of all what is a report?

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Also with me Tahrim

it is a highly structured form of writing than say 'AN ESSAY'

Report is a technical term.

and it can be designed so that it can be read quickly and accurately

ok then?
then secondly,why we write a report?

we write a report when we are facing a problem

the scope and style varies widely and it depends on:

1.audience
2.purpose
3.type of information to be communicated

got it??
yes proceedb next

In word building process what we have to study

saba first may i complete report?

then we ll discuss this topic ..right?>?

Yea sure
ok then
yes
what is a problem? " a gap between current disturbed situation and an ideal situation is called
problem"
for.example ."leaking of roof"

yes. I want to give an example. You are healthy in normal routine it is ideal state But one day you
get ill it is existing state.
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next is characteristics of research problem..

it should be ethical..2) can be investigated..3)practical signnificance 4)should be managable

then scientific approach for solving a problem

1)to define a problem..2)statment of problem.3)hypothesis

is there is any difference between vocabulary building process and word building process?
12:34am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by sana
no
now we will discuss how to define a problem

What is a research report?

12:34am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Ayesha
problem should be define claerly and objectively and it should not be imbiguous
what is difference between research report and proposal writing?

saba rule of 5 means that there should be 5 bullets and 5 words in each sentence.
and also 5 sentences in one slide.

wait sana we are discussing.

then statment of problem means what is proble

and we have to state a problem

Statement should clear so every body can understand what is a problem.

hypothesis are very pithy statements comprising not more than one sentence and it indicates the
possible outcomes of study
And we can write statement in the form of question or in the form of question.
in the form of question or in the form of statement.

tehri u tell me what i asked?

sana !your question

A report is an account of something that has been carried out and finished.
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but A proposal contains the outline and considerations before an action is carried out
only 3 scientific approaches are in research problem tehreem

12:55am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by samra
Tehrim disscus word building process

ayesha? am i right?
any idea
yes right tehreem

how to structure a report?

abstract.2)dedication..3)acknowledgment
table of content
tehrim tell me that abstract dedication table of content acknowledgement is include in what
1:11am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by momina
Title, inner title, abstract, dedication, acknowledgement, table of content

is these are structure of report

then introduction.and subheadings of chapter 1 includes background of study,purpose of

study,significane of problem,hypothesis,objectives
and last one is delimitation

momna these all are included under heading"how to structure a report"

okh its clear to me tahrim

Tehreem can you please tell me the def of research report?

What are other sub heading of report

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/writingcentre/learning_guides
/learningGuide_writingAResearchReport.pdf
check the link

ayesha and saba?? check the link below..quite informative

tools of fluency that only use in connected speech name tell plz anyone
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Momina I didn't get you.

momna i am not getting your question.

Thank you tehreem

ayesha got it??

not at all ayesha :)

i question that tell me name of fluency tools that are ues in connected speech
all tools are included in it i am confused

momina yeah all tools are included

assimilation,elision,linking,rythm,strong/weak forms and intonation

its means all included

thanks tehrim i got it

thank you tahrim ayesha

I didn't get the sub heading s yet

saba plz ask then

i also want to know that situation analysis and audience analysis

subheadings of chapters??
is included or not in things that we present during presentation

tahrim ayesha anyone tell me

Yea chapters headings plz tell me

momina these are included in prerequisite means things which we have to analyse before doing
presentation
ok saba.m a going to explain it for u

what is meaning of prerequisite?

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Yes Momina itsincluded in presentation

ok it means these are not include during presentation observations

prerequisite means before presentationsaba

no saba these things are analyza before doing presentation am i right tehrim
saba i have mentioned subheadings of intro

YeA I have note them next

yes momna u are right but saba is right as well because it is part of presentation no matter it is
done before presenatation
it is included in presentation
yes tahrim
ok saba next heading is literature review

Ok
Next
saba you can read this topic from the files present in communication skills group
name of file is "report writing format"

Plz add me in this group

i can't add you nz.only admin can add members and sir Rustam is admin
can i send it to u on fb??

that sir says that u have to read fb files where these files are
how we can open these files where is these files

Yes yes
saba check your fb

momna these in option in the group "files"

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What are elements of writing

Thanks dear tehrim

my pleasure :)
style,purpose,coherence,cohesion and logical development are eements of writing

Ok
Discuss word building process

a
word building process means"how new words are being formed in a language"
OK then
Plz tell me the things that come in word building process

Anyone there
extensive reading,blending,compoundin
yes saba
borrowing
clipping,conversion,neologism,coimage,backformation and acronym

Just 6 of them
Extensive reading, blending, compounding, borrowing, clipping,

conversion,neologism,coinage,back formation, acronym
OK have sir given its note s on communication group

no
Can you define them plz

can i send you pics of lecture?

Ok
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This forum is for sharing ideas here. You can agree and disagree with each other. Be ready for a
discussion from 9 pm to 11 pm tonight.
2:49am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Rustam
ok sir Thanks.
yes sir its a very good for us thank you sir

yes sir :)
My question has not been answered. Why do we use all or some of the fluency tools in connected
speech.
sir i have answered

but not sure about it..just share my view

we use fluency tools in speaking only because if we are going to use these tools in writing then
our writings deviates from standard english
We use tools of fluency in oral speech because it help us to speak quickly with a flow but we don't
use these tools while
Have you ever visited TED Talks website. Here is the link: https://www.ted.com/talks You can
select the topic from the list.
There are some good talks on Microbiology. While the presenter talks , you can turn on 'subtitles'.
The text will appear on the video.
Writing because it do not match with standard English rules of writing whereas these rules can be
neglected while speaking to bring fluency
ok sir :) will try it

Neri Oxman: Design at the intersection of technology and biology. This is a good talk. Written
version is also available.Click 'transcript'.
In speech we are in hurry.The dialogues are quickly taking place between the speakers. So
speakers use abbreviations, short forms etc.
" how i beat stage fight"is interesting talk in communication chapter

OK sir I will check it thank you sir

sir i have a question plz

okh sir i check it

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Tehrim may I help you

what is the difference between neologism and coinage?

as i studied it in detail but m confused

Ok
I want to develop your writing skills. So, please write in standard English here. Can anyone tell me
how we recognize standard English.
Be particular about 'mecahnics' of writing such as spelling, punctuation and capitalization. Some
of you are violating these rules here. :)
Tehreem
Neologism:
Neologism is the formation of new words formed by natives

You can chat and discuss things here but your writing should follow the features of standard
English.
if a discourse is having capitalization at proper place,proper punctuation is there,right

grammatical catergory is there
Neologism: when words are not a part of our language but we just just make them up like gulubut
no emoticons are there,no short spellings are there then we can declare the writing as standard
yes sir we should write it in standard english

Coinage is the invention of words on the name of scientist or inventor

What are data collection tools? Why do we use the term 'collection' wit them ,by the way? Just
asking. Any ideas?
sir we are trying but we are not able to write full speelings etc because of less chahracters for
typing message .
Neologism is a process of creating a new word in a language.

You can type less but use many posts to send your message.But never compromise on the
standard. Your writing will be spoiled.
Coinage: sometimes the things are named on the basis of their inventors,and the formation of
totally new word is coinage. for eg nylon
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OK sir
Yes sir tahrim is right we trying to write it in standard english.

sir !for conducting a research we have to collect data from different souces accoding to our
requirment and the data can be collected
through tools thats why we called them as data collection tools

Sir! data collection tools include interviews, questionnaires, test, observation and they are used to
collect the data required for project
How can we define spelling and pronunciation?

And we called them collecting tools because they helps us to collect the information needed for
our project.
sir i have read from one of the slide in slide share that new word based on name of person/place
is called eponym
hello every one! can any one of u help me in understanding tools of fluency
3:58am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by ayesha
Coinage is a word formation process in which new word is created either deliberately or
accidenatally without using other words formation
process.
but we are taking it as cionage ..and i read tha word formation process of entirely a new word is
coinage.sir is it so??
Acronym: when abbreviation is pronounced as a word e.g WAPDA

Yes tahrim I also studied it in one of the website.

We will have a systematic discussion on all the topics tonight. Right now, you can log off and read
through the contents of your Notes.
yes ayesha share your problem

i am confused in rhythm
@Ayesha, write in standard English please.

ok sir
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Please log off now. We meet again at 9 pm to discuss everything.

ok sir :)
oh sorry ! ok sir.
Ok sir.
Ok sir?
Girls can we start discussion from first lecture?and one by one we will discuss all the course
contents we studied.
ok sir
5:04am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Huma
Ok Sir.
5:17am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by tania
Hi momina are you here to discuss oral presentation?

yes kainat
I tell you what is oral presentation.

aoa .....
6:12am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by maryam
Oral presentation is that kind of presentation that is done either will the help of flip
charts,handouts,white board or wall charts.
Yes momina you are right.

Now we discuss how to judge an oral presentation.

Now you tell kainat.

no. first we have to discuss presentation skills.

Sure kainat.
Presenter know about its audience. Who will be the audience, their age, qualification, and previous
knowledge about the topic.
Then equipment needed like projector, UPS, white board, charts, marker etc.
Yes,presenter will also analyze the situation.We say situation analysis is also an important
prequisite
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of an effective oral presentation.

Dressing of the presenter.

Yes momina. Preparation of the topic is also needed.

Style of the presentation. Make the presentation interactive.

Yes kainat.
Language must be accurate and speak fluently.

Language,content,non verbals,also be checked.

Guys please read sir's message below.Every one should be offline till 9 of clock.Discussion will be
start at 9pm.
ok momina we will discuss it later on.

ok ayesha thanks
Sure kainat.
Not at all kainat.

Assalam-o-Allikum, to all. How is preparation of papers?

7:21am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Laiba
Can anyone tell me what is the definition of process of writing?

7:23am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Laiba
Salam!define process of writing please.

8:54am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Maida
And also why we use tools of flueb

Tools of fluency
Hi its 9 o'clock. Any body here?

Yes Kainat, I am here.

Yes kinat I am here.

I am also
yes,i am here.
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Shall we start
Sure Kainat.
Wait for sir.

No
plz wait for a while.sir will start discussion.

Can anyone please tell me about the main headings and sub-headings of report?
Ok
ok
Yes,we have to wait for sir.

of course.
Me too guys
Where is sir?
I will sent you report on Facebook are you ayesha abassi or Ayesha tariq
I am ayesha abbasi @saba

Assalam-o-Alaikum. How many members are here in the room.

Saba do send this to me also

Ok
sir i am present.
Wassalam sir
Sir I also here.

Walaikum assalam sir almost 6 girls are present right now.

I am also here sir

Ground rules for discussion: 1. Standard English 2. Non-participating students will be banned
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after 15 minutes of discussion.

I am also present.
yes sir!
Ok sir
OK sir.
sir i am present.
Yes,sir.
OK Sir.
Let's wait for them till 9:30 pm. After 9:30 no new members will be alowed. Agreed, everybody
present here?
As u wish sir.
AoA sir I am also present

Yes sir I agree.

Sir, I am present.
9:10am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by laiba
Yes sir,we are agreed.

Sir i am present.
@ Kainat, please use capitalized 'I'.

Yes,sir.
Ok sir I will.
Yes, sir.
Sir I have a confusion as there are two ayeshas right now so how would other girls with recognise
us?
Kainat,Ayesha tariq,Ayesha abbasi,Huma,Maryam,Tehreem,Saba,Laiba and Momina are present.

How many more people do we expect in this chatroom?

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Saba please send main and sub heading of report here.

Palwasha can't join sir.

Sir Maida and Sana have joined the room but are present yet.
Sir I think Tania kanwal and samra javed will also join us may be they join us soon.
Ayesha Abbasi did you check your Facebook I have sent you the format of report and Maryam
also.
Sir I have informed my group members but 3 of them did not reply.
A report has these main headings: Introduction, Literature Review, Methodology, Data Analysis &
Discussion, Findings & Conclusion.
Sir Palwasha can't join the class due to death of his grandfather.
How many group leaders are here please?

sir 4 group leaders are there

here*
Please sir also tell us sub parts of a report.

Four group leaders are here.

Sir me, Tehreem, Laiba and Ayesha Tariq are group leaders.
Aoa sir Iam present.

1.Introduction, 2.Literature Review, 3.Research Methodology 4. Data Tabulation/Analysis/Results

/Discussion 5. Findings/Conclusion
Yes sir four group leaders are present

Please send text message to other members as well. It is leaders' responsibility.

Which two group leaders are missing?

OK Sir
Rimza and Tania are not present.

Tania and Rimza are absent.
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Sir i have informed my group members but they are not answering me.
Rimza is missing sir.

9:18am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Maryam
Sir I have told Tania she will be here within a minute and Romza is not here yet
In some reports 4th chapter has different headings:

Rimza*
Rimza and Tania are group leaders?

Yes Sir
Yes sir.
Yes sir these are group leaders.

Yes Sir
Yes sir, they are group leaders.

Yes, sir.
Yes sir
4th chapter is sometimes called 'Results & Discussions' and sometimes it is called 'Data Tabulation
& Analysis'.
i am also present here

sir ! i don't have any contact with nafeesa.

Sir Tania is having a trouble in opening the chatroom she is trying.

Introduction:
@ Ayesha, your 'I' is always small 'i'.

Sorry sir
She should first type: https://todaysmeet.com After this, she should click in the browser bar and
then type a slash and micro3rd.
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Ayesha will you please inform maida to join room.

Sir there are three Ayesha

sir i have informed my group members but none of them is replying.

Yes sir she has joined the room in evening but right now she is having some trouble.
Sub heading are background of study,purpose of study,statement of problem, hypothesis,

delimitation
@Laiba dont worry i have informed them at noon

The Ayesha who is in the habit of typing small 'i' has already said sorry.
Literature review:
All the Ayeshas are requested to join the room with their full names.
Ok sir
Sorry for being late

Sub heading are construction of study,theoretical framework, summary of previous work

I am unable to identify the three Ayeshas. So log out and rejoin the room by typing your name
plus roll number.
Sir, I know the sub heading of chapter 1Introduction and 3 Methodology. Are there sub headings
of other chapters
Ok sir I have joined again.

9:26am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Ayesha147513
Who will type subheadings in chapter 1? Let's see how many can type them in one minute.
Do you all have the same names or a little bit difference in the names please? Type your full names
here.
Background,statement of aproblem,hypothesis,objectives of study,significance and delimitations

Literature.
Sir I think no more members will join the class.

I am having problem, I typed my full name but there is problem.

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@ Maryam, what are you typing?

Sir i did not understant probabillistic and non probabistc technique

I have also same problem sir

Background,statement of problem,definition of problem, hypothesis,delimitations

@tania, go with the thread please? Right now the discussion is taking place on Report Writing.
Chapter 1 sub heading background of study,statement ,hypothesis, objective, justification

,delimitation
Sub headings of chapter 1 includes background,statement,objectives,significance and

delimitations.
I mean parts of report.

@ayesha write your name and roll no.without space.

backgroung,statment of problem,hypothesis,objectives of study,significant of

problem,delimitations
How can I log out?

Back ground of study, Definition of problem, statement of problem,Hypothesis, Delimitation,

Timeframe
@ayesha just click the back button.

Background, purpose of study,signifiance of problem, hypothesis, objectives ,delimitation

Background, statement of the problem, definition,hypothesis,delimitation

Thank you Ayesha Abbasi.

Go back and then again join ayesha

Yes my name changed

9:30am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by AyeshaZaheer
OK. One is Ayesha Zaheer. What are other Ayeshas?

Not at all @ayesha147512

Ayesha tariq and Ayesha abbasi

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Ayesha abbasi
9:31am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Ayeshaabbasi
@ Ayesha 147512, what is your actual name?

Ayesha tariq147512
Ayesha Tariq, go out and rejoin by typing your full name.

Thanks God sir finally i came out of this tangle

Sir my name is Ayesha Tariq.

Ayesha tariq 147512

Ayesha Abbasi 147513

Sir my roll no. Is 147513.

Ayesha Abbasi
Ayesha Tariq is going to be banned from the room if she does not rejoin with her actual name.
I am here.sory for getting late

Sir I changed my name.

9:33am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by AyeshaTariq
Sir there was some problem in my keypad that's why it was taking too much time to type right
words.
Sir every body is ready now.

In chapter 1 we have these headings: Background, statement of the problem, hypothesis,

objectives of the study, significance, delimitation.
yes sir.got it
Yes Sir.
Yes sir.
Yes sir.
What is delimitation. Your take on it please?

Yes sir we got this?

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Type your response please. What is delimitation?

The process by which a researcher delimits the population to a specific area is called delimitation.
Population or research study?

Delimitations:keeping in view our resources like time,efforts.finances we set our limits and
mention the areas which we did not investigate
In delimitation,we mention those areas which we didnot investigate in our research.

Population
To delimit our research on the basis of time,effort and finances is called delimitation.We mention
the areas which we did not investigate.
Both
to limit our study to some area is delimitation

All the participants in the study are population

Background of study. StatementStatement.hypotheses. delimitation

All participants in a study is known as population.

No, research study is delimited to certain parameters.

Yes sir reasearch study.

Research*
Delimitation can be set on three basis these are finances,time and effort
To delimitate time,finance,population.
means we must set limits to our research according to our resources

I am talking of delimitation. We delimit our study/research not the population.

m late can any 1 teel wat we are dscusing

9:37am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by rafia
Sorry sir I got it now.Thank you

mentioning the area which is not study in our research is delimitation.

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OK sir I got it
@ Maryam, population can be delimited. But actually we delimit our study. We can delimit
population, time, tools etc.
Yes sir.
OK sir.
Got it sir
What are the main points of a Statement. ?

Yes sir we delimit our study keeping in view our resources such as money, time etc
While writing a statement, what do we have to keep in mind?

Statement includes all the relevant variables

Some members are not participating?

A statement should be weel written.It must have some variables.

Well*
While writing a statement we need to define all dependent and independent variables.
statment is a bit longer than hypothesis and can be given in a paragraph

Dependent and independant variables

All the variables of interest should be included, what else?

In delimitation we set our rereport accordind to finances,time and effort

Statement should be clearly written so every body can understand it.

Problem and variables are kept in mind

it should be well written and it do contain dependent and independent variables

we include dependent and indepentvariable

All the participents in researc is population

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Statement of the problem should be clearly defined and variables should be present.
A well written statement includes all the relevant variables.

I am sorry fir late sir.

9:41am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Maid
relevant variables these are performance, lecture method or cooperative group work
It must indicate the relationship betweem the variables.

It should be clearly written

It has to be stated carefully.

Delimitation include finance t

Variables must have a relation with the statement.

All variables of interest included 2. variables should be defined 3. Relationship be shown 4

Subjects be mentioned.
Delimitation include time,finance,

What is the difference between define problem and statement of problem

Yes sir I got it.

from variables which are present in statment we can guess what a problem is and what are results
of the problem.
Yes sir.
Statement should be clear and it includes variable.

Statement includes the independent and dependent variables.

Yes sir I also got it.

We delimited our study to te following: 1. Only male students participated2. Only intermediate
students participated
Yes Sir
ok sir
Definition of problem tells what is the problem but Statement of the problem includes the factors
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which causes problem

ok sir
Yes,sir
What are the sub parts of chapter 3 of a report?

Yes sir.
OK sir
Yes sir. or only BS students of GPGC Mandian are particpating.

Ok sir i got it
yes sir
@Saba am i right??
Reserch procedure,research designing,population ,sample size.

Population,,sample size,instruments,sampling techniques and research procedure

Population,sample sixa,instrument,sampling technique and research procedure

size*
Huma ,Rafia & Laiba, you are not participating.... ........ Do you want to leave?
Reseach design, population, sampling size, sampling technique, research tool, study procedure.
yes sir
9:46am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by amnanoor
papulation, sample size, instruments sampling technique and research procedure.

Samra & Tania.... type more.

Population, Sample size, Instruments, Procedure of study.

Research design,population,sample size,sampling technique,and research procedure

Research design, population, sample size,sampling technique,instruments, study procedure

no sir due to intenet problem i was late and till now i have confusion what we are discusing
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Populations, sample size,instruments, sampling techniques and study procedure.

What is the difference between Population and Sample Size?

mean which specific topic ??

@rafia we are discussing reasearch report

population design, sample size, sampling technique,study of procedure, data collection tool.
ok wel thankyou
We are discussing Report.

Research method, sample size,population,procedure

All the participants included in the study forms a population.

All the paricipants in the study is called the population

Research design, population, sample ,sampling technique,instruments, study procedure

All the participants in study is known as population.

I am asking questions. So you can respond to my questions. This way we all will be on the same
page.
all the participant in the study is population

we cannot investigate whole population thats why we take sample size.Sample size is the
representative of whole population
The participants in the study is called population and chosen people out of this population is
sample sze
Type in standard English. Correct your spelling before posting your message.
sample size is the representative of whole population

Ok sir!
We can not investigate the whole population, so we investigate few people it is called sample size.
Participants involves in the study are population.

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Sample size means we selecting people from the population.

Sir title page, abstract, dedication and table of content, these are main headings or subheadings?
All participants in study is population

Please explain research report

How do we select a sample? Are there any standardised procedures? Any techniques?
As we can not invistigate the whole population so we will set sample. the sample size give
refelction of the behaviour of whole population.
Population indicates the whole participants of the study where as sample size is the representative
of the whole population
Collecting data from some specific people is called as sample size.

All participant in the study is called population.

How do we select a sample? Any specific procedure of selecting a sample size?

yes there are 2 types of sampling techniques probabilistic and non probabilistic
Are there any sampling techniques?

for example if we are taking all the BS student as population then we can't investigate all
population then we take sample
We select sample by data collection tools

Yes we can set the sample by two ways.1.Probabilistic. 2.Non probabilistic way.
We can select sample by random sampling.

There are two sampling techniques, they are probabilistic and non probabilistic techniques.
by probabilistic and non propbabilistic

Yes there are two sampling techniques.

In sample there is sample size and sample techniques.1)sample size and sample technipue
collecting data from specific peoples in population is sampling size.

yes 2 types are proablistic and non probablistic
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probabilistic and non probabilistic sampling techniques.

Thumb rule is used for sample size.

Two sampling techniques are probilistic and non pribilistic.

sampling may be probabilistics and non probabilistics

Probabilistic and non probabilistic

Someone said:there are two types of sampling 1.Probabilistic and Non-Probabilistic. What are
these?
By these two techniques we can set the sample size according to our requirements.
Why do we call them probabilistic?

Probabilistics included Random sampling, stratified sampling, systematic sampling and cluster
sampling.
yes sir
@ Kainat, why do we call them 'probabilistic?

and thumb rule for sampling is random sampling,

Yes right
Probabilistic means in which the probability of any particular sample may be calculated.For
example Random sampling
Probilistic includes random sampling,stratified sampling and systemic sampling.

Probabilistic include : random sampling, stratified sampling, systematic sampling and cluster
sampling.
yes there are two sampling techniques probablistic and non probalistic
wat is major diffrnce between probablistic and non proablistic technique

Some members are not typing any word. Should we ban them? What others say?
Randomly collection of sample

no idea about their difference.
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Where as in non probablistic sampling we set certain rules like in quota sampling we can select
only 60 females for sampling.
Tell me difference between probabilistic and non probabilistic sampling.

Sir because they are based on probable.

In probable sampling, every member of the population as the equal chance to be selected for
research.
Probabilistic includes random sampling,stratified sampling and systematic sampling.

I am agree with Ayesha abbasi

Anyone clear it to me.

Sir am I right?
Don't know the difference between them

sir, please explain these techniques.

While in non-probabilistic, sampling we select only particular people fro research. Every person
can not be the part of the research.
@saba proper definitin ??

Non-probilistic are quota,convince

Yes sir I got it.

I dont know their differnces

Yes sir.
Example is snowball sampling

Sir I have also mention this.

Ok sir.
Yes sir
i have a bit confusion in these two

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ok sir
ok, sir I got it.

yes sir.got it
Probabilistic sampling techniques are these: 1Simple Random 2. Systematic Random 3. Cluster 4
Stratified.
I got it sir.
Yes sir.
What is a bibliography?
Sir non probabilistic sampling got it I but I am still bit confused in probabilistic sampling.
please sir define all these

Yes sir but we cant define it

What is meant by quota and snowball sampling?

Sir I have no idea about bibliography.I don't know what it is?

How many students are present in the chat now? Type your names please. Quick.
BIiblography is list of all soruces that we have used in the process of researching our work.
Bibliography is the list of all sourceswhich we consulted for our research.

list of all sources we used in our research.

Ayesha Zaheer
samra javed
Momina sardar.
The lists of websites, books used for the help in the research etc are known as bibliography.
huma
rafia shahid
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Maida Asif .147528

Kainat Saeed
tehreem fatima
Bibliography is to quote the books from which help is taken and mention the websites which are
browsed.
I am confused about the bibliography sir.

Bibliography is the quotes of researchers and reference we used in our research

To Mention those websites or books from where we taken help for our research.
Before doing a research, we read many books/ researches already conducted. We browse online
resources and websites. These are acknowledged.
Ayesha Tariq
i got about bibliography

Maryam usman
List of references used in the research or any assignment is known as bibliography.

Saba Rafique
Please type all the names in one post. Who can do it.
?
A bibliography is a list of all of the sources you have used (whether referenced or not) in the
process of researching your work
ok sir..i am doing it
Laiba
Who will count? How many students? 10, 15 or less than 10?
Thank you Tehreem

Tehreem,momina,ayehsa zaheer,ayesha abbasi,huma,rafia,maryam,laiba,ayesha tariq,saba

Sir let me do it.
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Kainat Saeed, Tehreem, Momina, Maida, Rafia, Ayesha Abbasi, Ayesha Tariq, Ayesha Zaheer,
Samra.
kainat ,samra,maida
I think 10 students are present.

in bibliography we mention all the sources we used in research

These are 11
and Maryam Usma

10 to 15 students are here

These are acknowledged Or literature review???

Ayesha tariq,ayesha abbasi,ayesha

zaheer,kainat,tehreem,saba,momina,huma,rafia,samra,maida,maryum,
Yes sir 12 to 15students are here.

Less than 15 students are here.

Liaba is also present

12 students
12 students now laiba is also active so total 13 students

12 students are still here

Sir 12 to 15 students are here.

Yes
Sir you dont answer me title page, abstract, dedication and table of contents, we mention them in
main or sub headings.
12 students are here.

kainat
kainat,tehreem,ayesha abbasi,ayesha tariq,rafia,huma,ayesha zaheer,saba,laiba,momina,samra

,maryam
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total 12 students are here

Sir????
tehreem also maida.

Sir,
Yes sir 13 students are present in this chatroom.

laiba sir has already told that introduction,literature review,methodology,fdata tabulation and
findings are main headings
Maida Asif,saba rafique,ayesha tariq,tehreem fatma,kianat saeed,samra javed.momna

sardar,ayesha zaheer,rafia shahid,huma
AoA....... thank u so much sir and really this is very great idea.
10:10am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by fati
Right Saba
Should we continue the topic.

aminabibi
Define Coinage
Ok guys we shall continue our discussion till sir rejoins us.

We were discussing bibliography continue it

Yes Ayesha Abbasi

No saba now discuss word building process

Yes Ayesha.
Yes bibliography.Every one please proceed step by step.Right now discuss about research report
please
we have dicussed bibliography

What next
ok ayesha abbasi
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Yes tehreem now we will proceed further

OK ayesha Abbasi.
topic?/
Very less number of students. I think others will not be benefited.Let's finish it all. You've not
invited others. I can smell selfishness.
When we use scientist name in our sentence like 1pascal,1 Newton.

It will be decided by sir.

which topic we have to discuss now?

Yes sir.
Research report is the document written by a researcher in which the information about particular
topic is written.
So now data collection tools to be discuss

sir we have informed them but they are not intersted i think thats why they are loosing this golden
oppurtunity
Sir i have informed my members but only one of them has joined us. Who is Rafia.
coinage is the word which is made by some one name

I am going to close the room. We have less number of students.

I cant understand it.

Sir we informed others but they did not reply.

Sorry sir we have invited them but they ate not responding.
but ..sir we are intrested.and wanna discuss each and every thing.
Sir please don't close we have informed them they didn't reply
Which group has all the members. Each leader should tell me how many members are present of
her group.
Sir hostel students did not join room, may be there will be some problem.
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Who lives in hostel?

Tania plz tell sir .

sir only one member from my group is present here .

we have invited all of them but i think they all are not intrested to avail this?
Sir only 1 member is present from my group.

Sir only one member is present of mine group.

asma.mehwish and aqsa lives in hostel.

Sir our whole group is present.But being CR i have invited other fellows too but they didn't give
any response.We are really sorry sir.
@ Tehreem, did you send text message to all?

My group has all members. Maida, Sab, Ayesha abbasi and laiba.
Sir our Group leader is absent

Group 3 all members are present Ayesha Abbasi, Saba Rafique, Laiba, maida
Asma.Mehwish and Aqsa lives in hostel. OK, then we have 16. Where are 8 others.?
sir nafeesa doesn't give me her contact no thats why i informed her through mail but she is not
responding.
Our group leader is absent but ayesha zaheer,huma and I present here.
Sir one of my group member Aqsa lives in hostel and Palwasha can't join because of her grand
father's death. Samra is here.
Sir i have texted them at noon but they didn't reply yet.
@ Momna ,who is your group leader?

Momina text Tania to join room. I don't have text package

Tania is our group leader.

and i have informed fatima amjad she is also not responding and amna noor is present here but
not actively participating in discussion .
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Yes i text her.

Sir our group leader is Tania

Sir only 1 member is present from my group.ostel who is asma and i have told sana to join the
class but she do not give me any responce.
Sir I have not any contact number of sana i have send her message on facebook.
Tania
We all are present sir

Fatima Amjid cannot join the room.She has some internet problem
What are the parts of an oral presentation? I mean if I present on the stage, what will you look in
my presentation
Sir tania also joined the room but she had some internet problem.
i am here ayesha zaheer

10:22am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by fatima
Ok Fatima
Verbal and non verbal communication skills.

Style,language,non verbals.
Content(adequacy,relevence)
content,language,presentation style,non verbals and paralanguage .

Verbal And Non Verbal skills

@Fatima, if I task you to present in 31st International Conference in Modernage Abbottabad, what
kind of questions will you ask from me?
content includes relevance and adequacy

Way of presentations,paralanguage,relevance,adequacy
I shall look on content, language, style of presentation, paralanguage and non-verbels.

Content, Language, Present ion style, Non verbals and Para language.
Content, Language, para language, presentation style, non verbals and time management.
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Content, language, paralanguage,non verbals,style

Paralanguage,content,style,pronouncation.
language includes fluency, pronunciation and accuracy.

Language(acuracy,fluency,pronounciation).Presentation style(use of AV aids,organization,time

management and interaction)
language includes pronounciation,accuracy and fluency

Intonations,deliveray rate.organizations.
Non verbals include eye contact,facial expression,posture and gestures.

Non verbels included. gesture, posture, facial expression and eye contact.
paralanguage includes tone of voice,loudness of voice,intonation and delivery rate

Paralanguage includes tone and loudness of voice,delivery rate and intonation.

verbal include language, pronounciation ,content

Language includes accuracy,fluency and pronounciation.

Content include relevance and adequacy

Language includes narration sentence,collocation.

In content I'll observe Adequacy and Relevancy.

Content have logical ideas,style,creativity

non verbals paralanguage presentation style language

Maida you are discussing writing judgement

Presentation style includes time management.organization and use of AV Aids.

@maida we are talking abot speech not writing

Accuracy, Fluency and Pronouciation are included in language.

Style Of presentation also be noted whether it is lecture monologue or interactive
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Para language included, intonation, delivery rate, loudness of voice and tone of voice.
Ayeshabbasi sory its wrong

Yes maida we discussing about speech.

So what is actual thing?

Maida these are writing judgement

@maida no problem be carefull in exam.

Non verbals includes eye contact,gestures,postures.

Can any one explian me

Para language included, intonation, delivery rate, loudness of voice and tone of voice.
Presentation style includes Use oif AV aids, Interaction, time management and organization.
@maida you can read the messages below.

maida we are discussing "how to judge oral presentation"

@maida also check the grading rubric for oral presentatiom given by Sir.
Non verbals include eye contact, facial expressions, gesture and posture.
What kind of preparation will you make if you have to present somewhere?dress, time,
requirements etc?
We are discussing grading rubric of oral presentation

Ayesha i know but i am not claer thnks

@maida in writing we judge language and content whereas in oral presentation we judge both
verbal and non verbals
In presentation style i will look on your organization, time managment, interaction and use of AV
Aids.
Ok ok thanks Ayesha Zaheer

first of all we will get information abou audience,situation,requirment

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tehreem please dicuss definition of research methodology

Its ok Maida
Also tell me definition of process of writing.

We discuss firstly prerequisite conditions.

Firstly I will analyse the audience,physical infrastructure,seating arrangments,room analysis.Then i

will also prepare my self for topic.
Audiences analysis,situation analysis, requirements etc

First of all we will try to know about physical infrastructure, then we will analyze the situation,
then we will analyze the audience.
In content I will look on the relevancy and adequacy.

Content should be adequate and relevant,in language fluency, pronounciaion,

we should analyzed situation, audience, equipement needed

I will also be carefull about my style dressing language etc.

then certain prepartaions are made according to topic

Process of writing is a way of communication.we share information,knowledge,expressions in

written forms
We analyze situation, audience analysis and equipments needed.

is style and dress up different things??????

yes these two are different things

We should be careful about dress get up.

I will ask you about audience age, their qualification, their professions etc
Girls! what is back formation?

Then prepare my presentation and also my content should be i+1

Yes style includes our presentation style means our use of AV aids organization etc @fatima
style is "how you present things" like lecture,presetation etc
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Then I'll dress up in proper way and I'll use i+1 rule in presentation.
and dressing is "how you present yourself"

Yes tehreem
word which is derived from back formation of other word.

Yes you are right

Paralanguage is also very important

After this i analyse audience,style,age etc

I will also ask about the seating arrangement, equipment needed.

thank u tehreem
Can anyone of you answer me??

yes ayesha..plz
e.g frig from refrigerator.

Age,previous knowledge on topic,their religious belonging.

not at all fatima

Forms new words from previous one are back formation.

I am still confused
@ayeshazaheer laiba is right.For example editor is a word and by the back formation of this word
a new word "edit" is formed.
political belongings,religious belongings,age,previous knowledge all are included in audience

analysis.
No one tell me definition of process of wfiting.

Back information is a process of creating a new lexeme by removing actual or supposed affixnes,
ayesha zaheeer? your question/

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I told that maida

The creation of simpler or shorter form from a pre existing more complex form like edit from
editor
what is i
affixes.'
what is Back Formation??

It is back formation
Yes Tehreem these will be question from an organizer when we go outside to present.
@ayeshazaheer back formation means when a word is shorten by dropping of last letters but new
word is related to it and gives proper meaning
Ayesha i cant get it

reduction of nouns to form verbs is called backformation.

Conversion of a noun to a verb is called back formation.

Tehreem i think its conversion?

for exampleeditor is noun and by back formation ae make it verb i.e edit
No it is called conversion
Ys
Yes Maida it is conversion

it is conversion.
no maida in canversion same word can be used as noun or verb

Yes saba is right.

@Tehreem ever time noun is converted inti verb in back formation

what is i+1???
i think yes.
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I aak totally confuse tehreem

it is a conversion not a back formation

Yes.
maida why are confused?

Sir kindly join us please.

In back formation word is formed not converted

Ok tehreem i got it now thank you

In conversion and back formation

@maida @ayesha abbasi??

but now we are confuse.

plz explain i+1

Tehreem what happened?

i means previous knowledge and1means to add something to previous knowledge.

What happen tehreem

@Fatima i +1 means if audience have some idea about the topic and you tell them little more so
they don't fed up.
in conversion we are actually changing the category of word and same word can be use as bot
noun and verb or adjective and verb
Add knowledge in previous knowledge

ok tank u laiba and ayesha tariq

1 means increased knowledge and i means existing knowledge.

thank u momina
Not at all fatima.

Right @Tehreem.
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Fatima u are fatima amjad?

In i+1 i refers to the grounding knowlegde that audience have and 1 indicates the knowledge a
little above then the grounding knowledge
ok I got it .
i means you have previous knowledge about topic and 1 means ti add little more information
about topic
@fatima i means existing knowledge so i+1 means to deliver content which is of a little bit higher
level than previous knowledge of audience
Sorry sir connection was disconnected.

Ok tehreem now i understand.Thnk you

thank u tehreem
yes fatima amjad

please sir join us

Define borrowing
my pleasure @maida @fatima

Sir are you there?

Sir?
got it
Sir???
sir is not present samra

Sir join us please.

Why fatima?
borrow some words from other languages.

When we take some word from other language then it is borrowing.

Sir are you there?
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Borrowing refers the words which are taken from another language.
@saba "it is a process of actually borrowing a word from foreign languages"

Borrowed a word from donor language and incorporated inti recipient languagr without
translation is called Borrowing
Thank you all

Example is time is borrowed from english languge in urdu language.

The word taken from other language.e.g bucket taken from portuges
Browwing is a process in which words from one language has been adapted for its use in other.
words are borrowed from different languages example alcohol,pitza

thank u all girlssssssssss

sir????????????///
Example alochol is borrowed from Arabic word.

Mention not Fatima.

Borrowing is the technique in which the words are borrowed from the other languages e.g Alcohol
is an Arabic word.
Thanks girls for defining.

I think sir is not here.

What kind of preparation will you make if you happen to present in a conference?
Not at all mayum fatima.

Multimedia presentaion.
Multimedia presentation sir

Discuss layer of knowledge of word

first of all audience analysis(age,previous knowledge,belongings )

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Let's say COMSATS Abbottabad invites you to present, what questions will you ask from
conference coordinator regarding your session?
Saba these are meaning,spellings,pronounciation,collocation,

Multimedia presentation.
Yes sir multimedia presentation is adopted to present in a conference.

In which we make slides on power point.

Type the questions you are going to ask from the organizers?
2) requirments( prjector,power cable,generator)

Initially we analyze audience,physical infrastructures and equipment needed

We Ask is there
3) situation analysis (seating arrangment,nentilation,physical infrastructure)

I am Rustam. Thank you for inviting me to the conference. I would like to ask few questions
regarding my session:
Sir I will ask about the audience,situation of room where I would present,physical
infrastructure,room equipments etc
about audience, situation, equipment needed.

We will ask questions about physical infrastrusture, audiene age, qualification, ther previous
knowldge abou the topic.
First of all i ask about room,then equipments which i nesded

Needed
Sure sir
Equipments[power cable,internet access,USP,laptop]and many others equipments.

1. I will present my topic on Multimedia. Do you have room fitted with multimedia?
I will ask about the audience,equipments

Then about audience.

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Yes sir
I will ask about audience,place for presentation,equipments.

Now discuss briefly tools of fluency?

Should I bring my own laptop or will you provide me one?

Projector
Physical infrastructure,previous knowledge on topictheir religious belonging.

Yes sif
yes sir got it.

first of all we will ask from them about the audience that whether initiated group will bw the
audience or un initiated group
Yes sir
I am getting your point sir.

talk about audience age their religion, qualification,equipments needed,

sir You should have to brought your own laptop

During my presentation if power fails, do you have alternative arrangements for a Generator of
UPS? (Ask questions like these.) waiting
UPS electricity arrangements

None of you is typing questions?

I will ask about audience,place for presentation,equipments.

Physical infrastructure
Then also about electicity

about time
Type questions. Let's say you are sending an email to the organizers. What questions will you ask
from the organizers?
Is room is well vantilated or not?
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@ Kainat has first question?

Ok sir sory
What kind of seating arrangements will you do? Is the audience feel relax during my presentation?
Is room well ventilate?
Is you have generator

I'll ask about the qualification, political belongings of audience.

what type of audience are present?

Ayesha Abbassi,good.
Is you have ups?

Thank you sir

there is proper seating arrangement or not

What type of audience will be there in my room?

i will ask about the internet facility

I will ask that do you have well equipped hall for presentation?
I'll ask if there is any work shop around or not? If yes I'll mentally prepare for it.
Where shall I stay?

How much time do you allow me to present ?

I will come to present in your university kindly tell me about the seating arragment for the
audience.
will there be any distubance outside?

How much time can i take?

I ask about projector.

i will also ask about electricity arrangements

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@ Kainat, why seating arrangement?

i will ask is room is ventilated or not,ups is present,seating arrangements ,place of laptop/

I will ask about room sitting arrangement,ups or generator present or not,timing of presentation,
audience age qualification
I also ask about ventilation and air conditioning system.

@Momna, what question will you ask about projector.Type your question.
is there any internet connection available in the hall?

Because for audience comfart. During my presentation how will they feel?
Wy air conditioning? You have to sit in the AC or do presentation?

i will also ask that how much time will be given for the presentation
And also what kind of audience are there?

I'll ask for a mike or speaker?

Ayesha Zaheer, make it a question.

Can not you please write questions?

is there an other source of light incase of load shedding?

@Ayesha Tariq, turn your staement into a question.

Internet connection present or not mike or speakers present or not

I will also ask that how much time will be given for the presentation?
@Saba, you can not make it a question. ?

Becauseit there will be suffocation the audience could not focus on our presentation thats why air
conditioning is important
And also you have an internet?

Maximum time given for presentation?

Ayesha Zaheer,do not write "I will ask". Just type your question.
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I will ask is there is any projector available or not

Ok sir
I will also ask if i need a power cable i have to bring it along me or you will give me at that time?
Is there is any disturbance outside.

I will also ask about the number of audience?

How much time will I have for my presentation?

number of audience present during presentation is ?

Is there a mike or speaker?

Is there internet connection available or not?

How many participants will be there in my presentation?

Is there is any food and tea arrangement for audience

Does your university have internet connectivity?

Is mike or speaker present there?

Can you please give me a lift from the bus stop to the conference venue?
What type of audience is present?Careful about their age political views religious views
sir sorry I try but I cannot display questionmark sign.

Do I have to pay some fee to present in the conference?

What will be the maximum age and qualification of my audience?

Is audience initiated in our topic or not

Distance from the residence to presentation hall

OK, students, let's say you have to present in Karachi. What things will you put in your bags? Your
stay in Karachi is for one week.
What will be the timing of my presentation?

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I will ask what typeof audience is there,internet access,room ventilation ?

Will there be white board and marker in case if have to write something?
What will you put into your bag if you travel to Karachi for a one week stay.
USP,marker,laptop.
laptop,charger,board marker,scotch tape,mobile phone,money,clothes,bedsheet,UBB

USB*
Pencils, eraser, sharpner, markers, scale, power cable laptop etc

Power cable,charger.
You have to present in international conference in Karachi.I want the list of things to be placed in
your bag.
Laptop,charger,some dresses
How far the switch board is from the dice? So that I arrange data cable?
laptop, cable, marker,USB

Internet device i-e evo

No make-up ? cosmetics? who will give you comb?

Pencil,eraser.
What about dress? How many dress pieces?

I will put my laptop,my charger,board marker,scosh tape,pen,pencil,leads,plug(2,3 pinner),usb.

tooth paste ,brush,comb

Yes sir also cosmetics.

Internet devieve, clothes, money, lipstick, comb, clips

Laptop charger,USB,data cable,marker,pointer stick,comb,dress and all the thing needed for the
journey
extension
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What will you waer in the conference?

we take laptop and its charger,marker,dresses 8 to 9,toothbrush etc

laptop,charger,usb,pen marker,pages,extension,cosmetic,hairbrush,toothbrush,tooth paste,

You are not responsing to the actual things.

I will wear shalwar,kameez and scarf.

we will do traditional dressing

I will wear shalwar qameez with duppata.

@Samra...8 or 9 dresses. !!! Is it a fashion show????

I must where the dress which will suit best on me.For this I will ask my mother to help me
deciding.
And also things that I usually use e.g hair brush,toothbrush,lotion etc
I wear a simple and decent dress.

All those things that required in good presentation

My clothes,laptop,comb,soap,toothbrush, evo,marker,cosmetics, pen,notebook, notes

How can your mother know about international conference Ayesha Abbassi. ?
Hahaha @samra
casual or traditional dress in which i am looking decent

Yes Samra.
@ samra, how many sandals? (hahaha)

I will wear shalwar qameez with duppata.

Hahah sir
hahahaha
She dont know about the conference sir but she knows which dress is best suited on me or in
which dress i look more decent.
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International conference in Karcahi.

oops samra
Hahaha sir
i think dressings does not matters alot and we have to be very decent while presenting things.
Hahaha
Any money etc?

Camera, mobile phone etc?

i have mentioned about money

Proper dress up, we should have a comb, mirror and perfume.

and mobile phone as well

Yes smart phone

Yes about 5000at least.

yes sir
Yes sir money is more important.

mobile phone,credit card,

Yes Sir camera and mobile phone.

Yes sir
Smart phone,camera is also important.

yes sir all these are very important

Yes money and cellphone

What about the topic you will be presenting on? Won't you prepare on it?
Wear the dress in which i look the best,decent and unique.

How will you make your PowerPoint?
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yes sir preparation for topic is much more important then dressing.
Will you rehearse your presentation or not?

we should have full command on our topic.

we will make powerpoint accounrding to our audience age and oue purpose
I will prepare my topic.It is important.

For the topic,surely we will do our best.

Yes topic preparation is above the all.I will study deeply about each and every word which i utter
during presentation.
I will make my presentation that follows rule of 5*5.

we should have condensed knowledge about presentation topic

If power fails and they are unable to make arrangements for power, how will you engage the
audience?
By oral presentation.
Slides would be without animation, five bullets and fiver words in each sentence, colours should
be in contrast.
yes we have to reharse on presentation

For PowerPoint presentation I will follow 55 slide rule ,font size of title 32,text not less than 22
and color contract of slide
I will engage them by my own knowledge about the topic which I have studied in preparation.
we will engage the audience by giving them different taskd

and group discussion

I will also excuse them.

I make a slide that should not be stuffy.

I will engage audiences un a way to gave some background of my topic.

So you have to keep in mind each and every thing. Most important is your topic, audience and
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situation analysis.
yes sir.
We will engaged our audience by starting oral presentation by using white board.
Yes sir right.

yes sir
Yes sit
OK sir.
Yes sir
Yes sir these are ver important

No slide animation and number of slides should be made according to time given
I do oral presentation.
OK sir.
The more you sweat in peace the less you bleed in war
Yes sir.
What does it mean:The more you sweat in peace the less you bleed in war
hahaha sir i will wear 7 to 8 inches heel due to less hight.

Exactly sir
It means if we do hardwork before our presentation and prepare our self fully we won't suffer on
presentation time
means if you will prepare your presentation before time

it will be easy for you to present things in presentation

You can use high heels as a tool as well. If someone behaves indecently, you can apply it their
heads (hahaha)
Hahahaha
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It means that the more you have practiced,more you will be succeed.
It means if you do your work in time you cant suffer in exact time.
Hahhhaaha
Time management is also important.You have to leave the presentation room for next presenter.
Hahahahah
hahaha @kainat no doubt ..u can

Hahaha...@sir valid point we can also use high heel s as a tool

Hahahahaha great idea sir

If we work at time we didnot suffer difficulty.

Yes sir we should take care espacially on time mangement.

We have not talked about writing yet. Is not writing a communication tool?
Yea right tehrim anything can be done kinat no doubt

Yes sir if we care for other's precious time ours will be managed automatically.
Time management is also important.

We should be carefull about time and finished presentation within stipulated time
yes sir writing is a tool of communication

Sir i asked many time about writing no one claer me

yes sir eriting is a mode of communication.

it is a communication tool
and is included in verbal communication

Yes writing is also a mode of communication

Time is precious thing.

Writing is a communication tool
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In speaking o oral presentation we take care of topic, language,para-language,time, infrastructure,

non verbals, etc. What about writing?
It means if we are fully prepared then we will manage in hard times.

Yes its also a tool for communication but it does not lies under oral presentation so thats why we
didn't mention it.
In writtings,we communicate through words.

Writing is communication skill process.

So words are important in writing? What else is important in writing?

Writing is not important in oral presentation sir

In writing the main focus is on content and language.

In writing we focus on purpose,audience,style,coherrence,cohession and logical development of

ideas
In writing we take care of verbal communication.

in writing we have to be careful about:audience,style,cohesion,coherance,logical development

If we do not put proper punctuation marks,or if we misspell etc ,will people be able to read our
message?
audience, purpose, content ,cohesion,coherence ,style

Style,coherence,purpose,audience
Content,vocabulary, spelling, grammar, logical development

@ Tehreem, good.
coherence,cohesion.
What maida?
Yes sir they will be able to read.

It includes coherence,audience,logical development,cohesion.

So we must present our information logically...introduction, development, and conclusion.?
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words are important but morhemes are also important which are making words and likewise
phonemes are also important that are making morpheme
The most important is our idea should be clear

audience ,style, coherence, logical development

Yes sir
thanku sir!
Without punctuation the sentences does not make any sense.

In writing we should not talk about phonemes.

Yes sir.
Phonemes are related to spoken language.

Yes sir
Yes sir
there should be logical development in writing.It have some begining development and conclusion
Without punctuation no one read our message clearly.

Yes sir got it.

The basic unit of communication in writing is a 'paragraph'. How should it be written.

Ok sir
It should have unity of words.

there should be a "topic sentence"

It must start with a topic sentence

then logical development

Language include syntax, vocabulary and mechanics.

Paragraph contains a topic sentence.
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and conclusion at the end of paragraph

Paragraph have paroper words,proper punctuation,

Then discussion and at the end there must be conclusion

And conclusion also.

yes topic sentence coherence cohesion abd creativity is important in paragraph writing
A piece of writing consists of: a message(content) ,language and mechanics. What are mechanics?
It has appropriate words.

logical development and topic sentence must be there

Spellings,punctuations and capitilizations.

Mechanics are punctuation,capitallization,spellings.

Mechanics inclue spelling capitalization and vocabulary

mechancs includes spelling,capitalization,punctuation

Content includes logical development, creative ideas,style, coherence,topic sentence in each

pargraph
Spelling ,pronounciation and capitallization

It contain topic sentence and there should be coherence and logical development between words
and sentence
punctuation ,spelling,capitalization
If your paragraph consists of five sentences,first sentence must be a topic sentence, three
supporting and the last concluding one.
spelling,capitilization and punctuations

yes sir!
Yes sir
yes
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Writing may be of many forms such as essay,letter,email, what else?

Yes
Memos sir
I think
What are some other forms of writing?

Memo,sms mail
memo,application,essay,job application
report.
applications,
It include punctuation,spelling, capitalization

text messages,
First of all write the main sentences of the paragraph then support it and then conclude it.
report, novel,story
am I right?
report,memos ,applications
Memos,application
report,sms,email
memos,aplication
memos, applications, letter,text message.

11:24am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Ayeshatariq
Report
Reports memos application cv

Yes sir
eassy.reports.
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These forms are aslo called 'composition'.

Yes sir
Got it
A piece of composition has two major parts: content and language

compostion or types or writing discoursse ...sir? am i right?

Memo,job application, essay,reports,thesis

Do you agree: content and language are the main parts of a written piece?
Yes and both have equal marks and importance

Yes sir.
yes
Yes sir these are main parts.

yes sir we are agreed

Yes sir we are agree they have equl marking.

yes sir content and language are main parts but grammer is also very important
If you have ten marks to judge a written piece of communication, how will you distribute them?
Yes both section carry equal marks

Yes sir they are equal 50% each

Both carry equal marks

5 marks to content and 5 marks to mechanics.

50percent content marks and 50percsnt language.

5 marks for each section

I get only replies of the girls not your question

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I gave 50 to language and 50 to content.

5 content, 2grammer 2vocabulary, 1 mechanics

Some members are not typing. They are being banned. The door is going to be closed for them.I
give them one minute.
5 marks for language and 5 for content

Syntax 20,Vocabulary 20,mechanics 10%

Means 5 marks language and 5 to cintent.

50 percent to language and 50 percent to content.

11:28am, Thurs, Oct 15, 2015 by Ayeshatariqw
Agree with ayesha abbasi

Why do we reserve very less number of marks for mechanics.? Are not these important?
5percent style,creativity,coherence.
Syntax 20 ,vocabulary 20,mechanics 10

these are important but we can do mechanical errors by mistakes

Do you know who is going to be banned in this room now?

In content:equal marks will be distributed among creativity,logical development,style,relevancy and

topic sentence
Mechanics count less than vocabulary and syntax.

These are important but we gave less marks because they are not use in all sentences.
Some are not typing? just enjoying?

Mechanics are also important but these occur mistakenly.

Mechanics are not more important then vocab.

Yes sir rafia maryum laiba etc:P

These are important but one can understand if there are no punctuations, or if spellings are not
written correctly.
Point out the members who are not participating?Otherwise all will be banned.
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fatima amjad
important but not as other

samra
tania
huma
rafia
RAfia laiba
maryam
Rafia Maryum Laiba

There are many girls who are not present.

Raffia, Maryum, laiba

Rafia maryum laiba tania fatima

They are important but they are not given more marks than vocabulary
Amna laiba tania rafia maryum

amina and maryum also.

Sir may be they have internet problem as maryum has mentiined she had lost internet connection
Nafeesa,palwasha,amina
mechanics is noyt much important than synytax and vocubalary

How was the discussion? Did it help you revise some of your course contents?
Some have internet problems.

Maida nafessa palwsaha not join it.

Did you like this room?

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yes sir Its helps us

Sir it was amazing and i hope our paper will good.

Is it better way to revise things?

Yes sir it is very helpfull and interesting way

yes sir !i like it very much

This chat room is very helpfull Sir

Without mechanics we can still understand the paragraph or sentence

Yes sir this room is very helpful for us.

Yes sir it is very good way.

Yes sir it was really helpful.

Some of you quit the room quite early? Why?

it is so helpful and interesting way to study

Sir kindly donot remove this room.

yes sir it was amazing and interesting way to revise

Yes sir it is very interesting class

Yes, sir it helps us a lot.

We can also improve writing in this classroom?

This is a good method to removes our difficulties.

And helpful also

Yes sir it feels like we were in our classroom.Only one thing is missing that is a good joke for us:)
please sir will you ?
yes sir
This is the best way to communicate and help one another.

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Peer learning also takes place? We learn from other comrades?

we can improve our writing skill and typing skill as well

Its a good source of communication.

Please one joke for relaxation,

Sir what is peer learning?

High-heel and 8 dresses???

Yes sir plz one joke.

@kainat :P
Peer learning means:learning from classmates.

Sir what are these?

Hahhhhaaah.
Hahahaha yes si
Yes sir hahahahah

Hahah sir
hahah
hahahah sir
yes sir we can also called it as group study

Thank you sir .I like peer learning alot :)

Sir dresses and high heels are part of women life

Or group disscussion.
Kinat and Samara this was for you hahahaha

This room also helped us in vocabulary building. I learnt a new word peer learning.
Yes Ayesha
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@ayesha is right
Sir thank you for creating this room for us.Its is a very helpful.Thanks.
peer learning means

learning from fellows

I am always Right :D
I also listen it first time ayesha.

@samra learning from classmates

Samra raed message below.

Right Ayesha
Click here to read the joke: https://www.facebook.com/groups/828662477173886/

ayeshazaheer i have mentioned ayesha tariq :P

Hahahah thank you sir i will read.

Hahhha tehreem.
Its your fault not mine :p

hahah poor men

hahahhah confusion of Ayeshas

lol
Thank you sir.

And i mentioned Ayesha abbasi;)

Sir I have read hahaha great:p

me don,t have fb account

One important thing has just come to my mind: when we set about writing something, we need
ideas. Is there any technique to get ideas?
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hahhhaha I read it.

@samra i will send u :)

brain storming
Graphic organizer helps us in getting more ideas.

Yes clustring through graphic rgaizers

is the technique
Organizers
Brainstorming and pre writing

brain storming
Forming graphics,clusters
And pre wrting..

Graphical organization
brain storming
brain stroming and organisation technique

There are three approaches to teaching writing: product, genre and process. have you ever heard
these names?
sir! i have a question please

no sir
no sir
@ Yes tehreem?
clustering,pre writing,brainstorming.
No sir
No sir.
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No
What are these?

sir what is the difference between neologism and cionage?

Tehreem, what is your question?

No sir we not hear it previously.

I have read the word genre in loyalbooks.com ut i dont haveproper idea of it

no
no
Sir by brain stroming.

No I do not have any idea about it

both are alssmost the same. The poet coins new words.Coinage means :creating new words.
sir i have read from one of the slide that a new word name base on name of person/place is
eponym
Yes sir it is very intresting sir.

Neologism is done by nativ speakers.where as coinage is done by other speakers too

I have also a question.Appendix is singular or plural what we say it,

A neologism is also a kind of coinage. Words which have been invented but not taken root in the
language.
appendix is singular..appendices is plural

Sir can we use this chat room for other subjects?

Appendix is singular.Appendices plural

Yes.you can.
Got it
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Yes sir.Got it.

Thank ypu so much sir.

Thank youbsir
Thank you sir

Thank you sir

So what is process approach to writing?

Thank you sir.

Thank you sir

thank you sir

Extensive reading
We are going to finish the chat soon.

Pre writing , drafting ,revising editing publishing

These are:pre wrting,r

Just tell me what is process of writing.

The more we read the more we write

sir!
pre writing, 1st draft, rearranging, editing, rewriting, 2nd draft, ready for publish.
ideation ,drafting,revising editing publishing

These are pre writting,drafting,revising,editing,publishing.

pre writing,free writing,editing,revising and publishing

What is ideatation,anay body?

Sir I am confused
Sir i didnt get you
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Prewriting.drafting.revising,rewriting,editing,publishing.
Free writing, Drafting, Revising, Editing, Publishing.

sir! second draft and proof reading will be included in which main heading?
Making ideas r plan before writing.

Ideas about topic.

A well organized email or a short story is not produced in one go. The writer first brainstorms for
ideas... then jots his ideas..
Yes sir I also want answer of question that tahrim ask.

collection of ideas about topic.

@tehreem i think in editing

formation of ideas
Sir what is process aproach to writing and stages of writing are not same na?
Ideation is the idea crimes in our mind before we speak, it is the what of communication.
comes*
Ideas that comes in our mind before writing.

Ayesha i am also confuse in this.

@ayesha yes these are same things

He may use some mind-maps to organize the key points... Then writes first drafts..revises...
rewrites.. edits..rewrites..publishes..
These are same ayesha maida.

Yes sir got it.

Ok Momina thank you.

Ok got it
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Not at all maida.

these are same

sir I am totally confused now

Hope we all enjoyed. Before we take leave, you all have to do one thing.Share a joke.
@ ayesha zaheer why you are confused?

Yes we enjoed it alot.

@Ayesha Zaheer...you must give Sadqa.

Yes sir we realy enjoyed.

I am waiting for your jokes.

In writing process
Hahaha what about me then?

yes we all are enjoyed

Why sir?
Its very intersting and helpful and also jolly.

Because you are confused..totally..

i have report in mind yet.nothing else :p

kainat plz tell any joke.

Who will tell the first joke?

Sir writing process confused me

Hahaha ask momina sir

Thori thori hi sahi magar bongian to mara karo Chup rahty ho to aqalmand hony ga guman hota
ha. for my whole lovely class
you have to tell a joke first

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hahhha Ayesha zaheer

Hahaha kainat :D
lo ayesha abbasi
If you have to write a big novel or thesis...you will adopt writing process. You can not sit and
compose a report in a day.
sir all things cleared to me except writing process

hahahhaha kainat
Yes sir
You first need to gather ideas.For ideas you will use graphic organizers...Once you have got the
ideas, you will write an outline.
Sir whats about my joke?

Ok sir
@Kiant, share any other joke.

Now ayesha abbasi tahrim anyone tell a joke to sir .

None of you is sharing any joke.

Teacher: How can we get some clean water? Student: Bring the water from the river and wash it.
Ok sir i will
Sir please now give exact definition of writing process

Hahhhaa tahrim.
Aunty called on land line and asked where are you the boy replied in hospital :p
hahahaha tehreem
It can not be defined.... It is a process. A cup of tea in hand is a product. There is lengthy process
involved behind it..
hahhha Ayesha tariq.

Water in the stove.. sugar,tea leaves..heat.. boiling.. etc.After a lenghty process cup of tea comes
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to hand.
Ok sir
Hahahahahha
Sir i will give this example in paper

we called it a process becaus it is not a thing that can be done haphazardly it neeed some rules to
follow
Yes tehreem
1st friend:main subha roz morning walk py jata hun 2nd friend:phir tou tum cold drink b thandi
peety hou gy :P
OK guys... wish you all the best. Allah Hafiz.

like prewriting.drafting,revising editing and publishing

Hahahahahhahaha
hahah @abbasi
hahhhhaa Ayesha abbasi

Sir i am sending the joke in our group.

ok sir kHUDAHAFIZ
hahhhha
hahaha
all the best class :) good night

thanku sir :0
:)
Thank you sir Allah hafiz

Ok sir good bye.

Khuda hafiz sir and thank you

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Allah Hafiz.
Allah hafiz
All the best guys :D best of luck :D

same to you dear.

Thank you sir Allah hafiz

best of luck every one

OK sir good night and thanks alot.

best of luck to everyone and gudnyt

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Can anybody type here names of tools of fluency?

Why do we use tools of fluency only during speaking?

Thank you sir for making this room.

Names of tools of fluency are:

Thanks sir for creating a new room for us.

Tools of fluency are:

Tools of fluency are:Elision,Asimilation,componding,linkingintonation,strong and weak form.

i wanna discuss oral presentation

Aoa thank you sir for creating a new class room.

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yes Ayesha is right.we have disussed 8 tools of fluency

Tehreem these are 7 tools of fluency kindly send us 8.

ayesha mentioned all tools

can we discuss wwriting process?i m lil bit confuse

Yes why not?

which include prewiring,drafting.revising.editind and publishing

Yes you are write.

can anyone please tell me the elements of communication?

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last one is logical development

Hy every one.Hows your preparation going?

Well i have recently joined you guys.Looks an interesting way to study.

Ok Are you Ayesha Abbasi?

Thank you tehreem

i think 5 chapters(intoduction,literature review,methodology,data analysis,findings) are main

sorry ..in which mainheading/

I think so it comes under publishing.

ayesha abbasi !means in editing?

No. After editing and before publishing.

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9:07pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Kainat

tell me how we define sampling

thank you ayesha

also tell me that first drafet second draft is included in what

Haha dont worry about the headings tehreem.There can be 7 headings.

Momina these are the parts of writing process.

plz ayesha tell me name of parts of writing process

Define bibliography please.

Not at all momina:)

ayesha why not

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9:15pm, Weds, Oct 14, 2015 by Tehreem

mention not kainat

Momina thank you:)

mntion not ayesha dear...

tell me profreading is include in what

yup momina these all are stages of writing process

Momina dear proofreading and rewriting comes together in same heading ok

it includes:the authors' names,the titles of the works

thank you samra

First draft is in drafting stage.

Haha thank you kainat

anyone tell me how to define writing process

thank you ayesha

momna we disussed this..u can go through discussin

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Carry on guys.I have a work I will join you later.

okh dear see u ayesha

Post tests, observation sheets, questionnaire etc

kainat plz define profreading

oky thnx kainat

Samra any more question? i am here.

in literature review what r the sub headinds of thiz/