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In favor of not rushing this bill, but, will one be passed by 2020? I am not happy
that I will not get to vote for our president for 2016....lots of "discriminatiion" to
all those who are handicapped, in a hospital, or at home rehab or have perm care
givers that COULD NOT get out to the Caucus to part of the process. My late
husband died of Agent Orange in 2009; served 31 years in the Marines - fighting
for our freedoms, especially to vote for our President. Had he lived thru 2016, he
would have died from a major heart attack before Agent Orange if he could NOT
VOTE for our President.
Please vote no on Bill 16-1454 and any late bills that give you our representatives
and we the people insufficient time to study.
At this point I don't see how we can properly address the problems in this bill, so
the best path is to kill HB 16-1454 and take the time to find and develop a proper
solution to the election process.
I do not support rushing this bill through. Stop and give it due process.
We the people demand to be heard and included in the process of how presidential
primary will be handled in Colorado.
Please hold off on this very important legislation until the people have time to
consider and research it. There is absolutely no reason to rush this through!
While HB1454 might not be technically an open primary, for all intents and
purposes allowing UAF to register with the primary is. Further, one could change
registration for the state primary in the summer. Also, the 2016 Colorado GOP
Assembly voted 2126 to retain the Caucus system to 1850 for a Primary. Delegate
selection is by state party rule.. whatever those might be. If there any way to
ensure superdelegates, this is it. Don't be reactive, bring this up for consideration
in the next session.
Any primary must not be open, and the taxpayers should never pay for party
organizing.
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There is NO need to rush this through. This important issue deserves careful
thought, compared to other ideas, and most of all...citizen input.
A half-baked solution. Let's take some time to evaluate options and come up with
a real plan.
manipulate a system that is full of chaos, corruption and fraud. Thankful some
state leaders are seeing this and doing something about it. Pass this bill!!
Anonymous
Apr 29, 2016
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More review needed and I oppose an "open primary" for either party.
I completely disagree with saving the Colorado Caucus. It's just a system to
legally bribe and manipulate delegates. Its only purpose is to disrupt Colorado
voters due to our history of voting for non-establishment presidential candidates.
The caucus also has long lines and discourages people from voting. Contact your
representatives and say you WANT HB16-1454. Pick your candidate without a
bunch of middle men disrupting the process!
Please don't be reactive but truly give thoughts & allow public input before
making this big & expensive decision!
Put the brakes on this until there's lots of ppls input; caucus has much grassroots
merit that primary lacks.
Only republicans vote in Republican primaries...I don't get to play gold at augusta
nation, I am not a member.
Anonymous
Apr 28, 2016
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NO OPEN PRIMARY!!!
Too soon to vote on this. Give it some time. This petition alone is evidence that
more consideration and discussion is needed.
Emotions are running high, and many Coloradans do not understand the
significant issues at play with the current and alternative processes. Our
legislators should hold off on making a rash decision and address the issue in the
next legislative session, after the 2016 elections have passed.
please do not consider this legislation. We need to give this due process and time
for public input.
This bill needs to be put to rest and NOW. Please do NOT allow this bill to go
any further. Now is NOT the time to rush through a bill just because there was a
lot of noise surrounding the process that the noise makers didn't understand. This
is not MOB RULE. We are a representative government.
This should wait until this election is done, there is so much cofusion, on what is
the best way to handle this situtation.
More time is needed to fully evaluate the proposed changes vs. the caucus
process.
It's pretty clear to me that grassroots-caucuses have more legitimacy than mail-in
primaries. Plus, the State has no business telling political parties how to select
their presidential nominees. Even if the larger public opinion is that a primary is
nonetheless desirable, we have another three years to finally choose and settle the
details. Pushing this decision now is so obviously hasty that I question the
motives of the proponents proposing it now, especially in what appears to be a
rush-job at the last minute in the legislative session. If it unwisely passes and the
governor signs it, a later legislature should repeal it at the earliest opportunity.
More input is needed to fix the Colorado primary process. Open primaries are
patently ridiculous. Defer this legislation, please.
Please, not a presidential primary as laid out in HB16-1454--it has too many builtin problems. I personally would like to keep the March caucus AND have a
presidential primary in conjunction with an early June state primary (for our state
senators and representatives, county commissioners, etc.). Representative Everett
suggested this approach in the House State, Veterans, and Military Affairs hearing
on Monday afternoon (4/25/16). It would save a lot of money and give Colorado
voters a say if, as this year, the races go down to the wire.
Our caucus system has worked well since 1912, notwithstanding criticism from
those who failed to participate this cycle. Why would we adopt an expensive
binding primary, spending millions of dollars just to coerce delegates to vote a
particular way, on just one ballot? And if we held a general ballot (not at caucus)
to elect delegates directly, we would be putting the expense of running for
delegate well out of reach for the average citizen. Why would we do that?
Essentially, primaries move political processes into back rooms, aggrandizing
power to party bosses and insiders. We really need some time to think this
through. I encourage our GOP Senators to table this until the next session, rather
than hurriedly pass something that will so profoundly change the process.
Caucuses mean accountability and draw the enthusiastic and informed. Primaries
have too many liabilities. Don't set the bar lower.
The 2016 process was a mess, but acting in haste to change it would be a mistake.
Primaries will be added cost...result in 2 primaries-ine for president and one for
CO canidates! Only registered Republicans should have a say in who our nominee
is! Save the caucus system!
Let the voice of the people, not just the party bosses be heard!!
A former state Party chairman tried ramming this through near the end of the
session last year. Now, here we are again. I find this dishonorable. It is
disrespectful of not only the legislative process, but of you as legislators and,
mostly, We the People who sent you here.
http://www.coloradostatesman.com/letter-presidential-primary-bill-woulddamage-parties-beyond-repair/
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There is for this rush to change the fundamental process in Colorado citizens to
participate in the political process for selecting the leader of the United States!
We the people of Colorado love our grassroots process. Yes it is not perfect, but
neither will be the Primary process that is for sure!
We the people through the caucus process are able to gather in our
neighborhoods, talk about issues and candidates, and choose our representatives.
This is truly our fundamental right of representation in the political process!
There is room for improvement in the current system for sure, but there is no
reason to not defer HB 16-1454. There needs to be public input in the system.
Will someone please PRIMARY Tim Dore?! Wait, maybe that's why he's pulling
this crap - so RINO's like him can strip away the power of the people and do
whatever they want without repercussion because the establishment will have all
control.
Please let the people speak, this shouldn't have to be asked for in a freedom and
liberty oriented country.
I agree this bill is a knee jerk reaction based on media's narrow one sided view
I would really like to keep the caucus. It's the most accessible to everyone. It's the
truest form of republican democracy. The worst case would be an open primary. I
used to believe the primary was the thing. But that was because I'd never
participated in the caucus and didn't understand it. Hate that the uneducated
national media's criticism of OUR system is causing this knee-jerk reaction.
This is a knee jerk reaction and had thus has no business being jammed through in
this leg session
There is no hurry. A change this impactful should not be done in the frenzy of this
election year.
Anonymous
More time is needed for adequate time for public opinion. When our state is low
on funds, we don't need to be throwing money into the wind.
If we pursue a process funded by all tax payers, we would have to allow all
citizens to participate. NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!
An open primary does not empower citizens to choose a party candidate. Kill this
bill.
Please do not make hasty decisions in the heat of the moment. The people of
Colorado need thoughtful deliberate consideration in this matter.
Thank you!
Please, not a presidential primary as laid out in HB16-1454--it has too many builtin problems. I personally would like to keep the March caucus AND have a
presidential primary in conjunction with an early June state primary (for our state
senators and representatives, county commissioners, etc.). Representative Everett
suggested this approach in the House State, Veterans, and Military Affairs hearing
on Monday afternoon (4/25/16). It would save a lot of money and give Colorado
voters a say if, as this year, the races go down to the wire.
Clearly changes need to be made, but let's not ram something through at the last
moment.
Political parties are private entities. If the State uses taxpayer money to run a
primary, the State will set the rules for who votes, leading to an Open Primary
where anyone votes in any party's primary. Why should a Democrat/Republican
party want members of the opposite party or Independents voting to select their
party's candidates???
An open primary is NOT what we want to go to in CO. I'd prefer we retained our
caucus system, but better educate people on how it's run and the prupose behind
it. It's the real representative government process to allow the people a voice in
elections.
Please hold off until the next regular session of the general assembly, and then
vote to retain the caucus process. Thanks
I prefer the present caucus system. I am skeptical of the need for any legislative
solution to the perceived "problem", given that the party nomination processes are
a function of private organizations, not of the government. At the very least,
extensive public discussion needs to take place before any "solution" is adopted.
Randy Licht, Cathy Licht, Scott Licht, Emma Licht United States, Monument
Apr 28, 2016
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The reason we use the caucus / convention process is to allow grassroots input,
and downplay the role of money.
2020 is the next presidential election. Let we the people study this issue. No need
to jump the gun and vote on this bill when emotions are running wild and
common sense is totally absent.
I insist we are allowed our due process. Pushing this through would be abhorrent.
Please listen to the people.
If this bill is passed as is, our political process will become the exclusive province
of special interests and big money. All we ask is that the General Assembly table
the bill and allow the 2016 dust to settle, lest they make a poor decision.
I will not vote for the Denver Post/9News/KOA Revenue enhancement bill.
This is too important to act so quickly. We need a full discussion of what course
is in the best interest of the of all.
Please keep the caucaus in Colorado. Here what we the people have to say.
The rush to create this crappy bill is like playing prevent defense. The Broncos
found that pretty ineffective against Baltimore a few playoffs ago. Instead, let's be
Von Millers and blitz the stupid open primary initiative.
In 2010 everyone was quaking in their boots over Amendments 60, 61, and
Proposition 101. They would have choked municipal government. Folks were
running for cover because in the spring of that year, those initiatives were polling
favorably - by a good margin. Guess what? The public got educated and pushed
back, and defeated this things soundly - by a 70/30 margin. The same could be
done for this measure.
I think the truth is that those proposing this as a "defensive" measure are using the
initiative as a red herring. They actually want this, for data on unaffiliated voters,
to enhance the chances for moderate candidates, to push control into national
parties. The collection of supporters is eclectic and their particular reasons varied,
but they all want this change. Don't fall for the narrative.
Finally, the next presidential primary is in 2020. Why the hurry now? Even if we
move to a presidential primary, take the proper time to get citizen input, be
thoughtful and get it right.
It has worked for Colorado for a hundred plus years. We tried to caucus for 8
years and it failed us miserably and cost taxpayers millions of dollars. I hope that
our elected officials do not waste our time and our tax dollars on this.
#caucasworks
Rather than make rash, knee-jerk reactions, please consider a thoughtful and
thought-out approach.
This is not the time to change from a caucus to a primary. It send the wrong
message that we don't respect our own processes. Please table this discussion until
next session. Research and discussion to see what may be the best way to move
forward is the prudent path to take.
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