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Acknowledgements
Managing Editors:
Jennifer Chung, Jay Lee, Dr. Michael Englesbe
Contributors:
Megan Beems, Jennifer Chung, Anna Eliassen, Stephanie Kingman, Scott Kizy, Jay Lee,
Linda Ma, Arin Madenci, Sarah Ponto, David Ranney
2013, Edition 1
Introduction
At the end of a four year medical school career, it comes down to this doing everything in your power to find the best training programs for you
and to maximize your chances of matching at one of those programs. At
the end of the day, this is an imperfect science and each of us have only
gone through this process once (thankfully). This book is a compilation
of advice regarding the match process, and represents our best
efforts to provide you with a reliable source of information specific to
students interested in matching in general surgery (and general surgery
subspecialty integrated programs). We fully acknowledge that there are
many ways to go about this process and we have not attempted to cover
every possible scenario, but rather to provide some guiding principles
and suggested approaches. We wish you the best of luck as you embark
on the Interview Trail and much success when all is said and done!
Table of Contents
Introduction
Pre-Interview Period:
Finding Mentors .......................................................................................2
ERAS Components....................................................................................5
Post-Interview Period:
Applying to Integrated Programs ........................................................34
Appendices
PRE-INTERVIEW PERIOD
Finding Mentors
How to Find Mentors
The process of applying, interviewing, and finally choosing a residency program
is one with many nuances and high stakes. Luckily, you are surrounded by
people who have gone through the process before you and who have helped
generations of students through it all. Good mentors are a powerful resource
that you should utilize to set you up for success. Ideally you should aim to seek
out and maintain relationships with
mentors in many different professional
Main Points:
stages (resident, full professor,
Have multiple mentors at people in different administrative and
different points in their leadership roles, etc.) and who can
speak to different aspects of who you
career path
are and eventually hope to become. As
Understand each mentors the mentee, you play a crucial role in
role and background directing and managing the relationship
and use their knowledge with your mentor. In order to best utilize
each mentors strengths, you should
and advice accordingly
have a general idea of what each
Consult your mentors mentor has to offer and have some
frequently; they are your understanding of their background
and biases. Do your homework and be
best resource!
familiar with where your mentor has
trained, worked, what kind of research
they do, with what other non-clinical activities they are involved, etc. Below are
examples of people you can and should reach out to for advice and the kind of
advice that each might be able to offer:
Surgery Clerkship directors: Be in communication with them often and
early on in the process. They have lots of experience and advice to offer
and it will be to your advantage to establish familiarity and a good working
relationship. They can offer realistic advice about choosing programs to
apply to considering your credentials, making your rank list, finding other
mentors, etc.
Surgery Residents: Great first-line of advice for the nuts and bolts of
the interview season. You can ask about their experiences with specific
programs interview days, how they evaluated the programs they saw,
their decision-making process, how to prepare for interviews, etc. Keep in
mind that they have a limited sample size from which to draw some of their
impressions
Junior Faculty: Often they will have a good sense of the current status of
residency programs, recent changes in training paradigms (work hours and
the shift toward early specialization), and have contacts with faculty and
program directors at other programs
Letter Writers: Ideally your letter writers are faculty who know you well
and have worked closely with you. However, they often will also be more
senior faculty and you should be prepared to present a fairly polished front
when meeting with them. This means having an updated CV about which
you should be able to provide more information when asked, a personal
statement that has gone through at least a few iterations and is not in a firstdraft form, and at least a vague idea of what your future interests clinically
and academically might be. Your letter writers will often not be people to
whom you will send emails about minor questions, but from whom you can
elicit opinions re: your list of programs, your rank list, and who may be willing
to make calls or reach out to people at programs that you are especially
interested in when interviews are all done
Residents at other Programs: Any residents at other programs to whom you
have personal connections or who are U of M alumni should be considered
as good sources of inside information. Emailing before or after an interview
to solicit advice or honest opinions about things you feel you might not have
gotten an accurate picture of during the interview is reasonable. However,
remember that their allegiance may be at least partially to their program
so you should be reserved and tactful in sharing your opinions of different
programs with them
Alumni: Use your U of M connections! Faculty and fellows who are alumni
of programs where you are interviewing are usually happy to share their
perspectives. Recent medical school grads and residents who are now at
different institutions are also great resources.
ERAS Components
CV
There are two forms of your CV that you need. First, a CV that you can give to
letter writers to facilitate their writing awesome letters. Second, your CV in
ERAS form. For the latter, just like on the medical school application, you have
a couple lines (~1000 characters) to explain each activity. As you would expect,
be yourself, tell a cohesive story, etc. If available in your Surgery Education
Office, it is extremely helpful to look at examples of previous applications (a few
examples are included in the Appendix). Dont plagiarize, but use this to find the
appropriate tone, key things to mention, etc. Also, seeing the experiences of the
classes before you will likely jog your memory and remind you of experiences/
awards you received but may have forgotten about. Like your personal statement, start now and sit down and write a CV, then revise, revise, revise after
having your advisors look it over.
Research M entors
C hairmans Letter
Some medical schools will include a letter from
the C hairman of Surgery for all students
applying in general surgery and will set up a
meeting for each student. Be prepared for this
meeting as it may be your first and only chance
to make an impression and communicate things
youd like highlighted in that letter.
ERAS Requirements
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Large academic centers are usually best-suited for those with a robust interest in research and/or other
academic interests outside of a clinical career in surgery. Many academic programs require at least 2 years of
research time during residency while other programs offer optional time for academic development; these
programs vary from 5-7 years in length. Programs require a certain number of graduating residents each year,
so there is the possibility that you may not be able to complete research or may have to complete research
depending on other residents plans if the research time is optional, as the number of residents doing research
will vary from year to year. C ommunity programs are usually more clinically focused, may have higher case
volumes, and are usually 5 years of clinical training.
Geographic Restrictions
Do you want to live in a big city, near family, or only on the East C oast? Where is the nearest airport and
how expensive are tickets? You have to live there for 5-7 years, so truly try to imagine your everyday life
there. Many of the top programs have similar clinical and research opportunities, so location really
separates them.
Faculty can offer good insight into programs reputations. Junior faculty mentors are an ideal
starting point as they are far enough along in their careers to understand some of the pros and cons
of different training paradigms and close enough to the residency process to know about more
recent changes in program characteristics and reputations. Senior faculty have a great deal of
experience to draw from, but their knowledge of programs may be dated, depending on how
closely they follow current events. U sually the C hairman, Program Director and other faculty with
medical education backgrounds are some of the best sources of information because they stay
abreast of new developments and resident education at institutions. The key is to solicit
suggestions from multiple sources and to find where the consensus lies.
Resident Suggestions
Residents are great sources of information because they have interviewed recently at many of
the programs to which you will apply and may have friends at other institutions. If you hear a
program recommended over and over again, its probably worth applying to.
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Main Points:
Scheduling Interviews
GENERAL RULES:
1. Initiate communication early Whatever the reason, its in your best
interest to initiate communication with programs ASAP. When scheduling or
rescheduling interviews, spots fill up very quickly, so prompt communication
will maximize your chances of getting the dates you want. When cancelling
interviews, an early response will ensure the program has enough time to
offer your spot to another applicant.
2. Be courteous A programs surgery education office is responsible for
scheduling and rescheduling interviews. They are the gatekeepers. If you
come off as even slightly rude, they can make your life very difficult. Be
courteous, even if the person youre talking to isnt, and youll be much more
likely to get your way.
Accepting Invitations:
Respond ASAP spots fill up very quickly
Email is the best medium unless directed otherwise
Read the invitation carefully before responding. It often asks for specific
information in your reply
Cancelling/Rescheduling/Declining Interviews:
Dont worry programs expect some applicants will cancel/reschedule, so
they are usually forgiving
Being courteous and professional is of particular importance. Lack of
gratitude when cancelling interviews will burn bridges.
Whenever possible, notify the program AT LEAST 2 WEEKS in advance so
they can reschedule you or offer your spot to another applicant
If you cancel/reschedule on short notice (< 2 weeks), you need to have a
convincing reason (death in family, severe illness)
If you cancel/reschedule ahead of time (> 2 weeks), you do not need to give
a specific reason
Example: Cancelling Interview by Email > 2 weeks ahead of time
Hi _____________,
My name is ________ and I am currently scheduled to interview
at [program name] on January 12th. Unfortunately, I will have
to cancel my visit. I am very sorry that I will not be able to
make it. Please convey my sincerest apologies to Dr. [program
director].
Thank you again for the invitation. I sincerely regret having
to cancel my visit.
Best,
________________
Getting from the social event to your lodging. You should have a plan for
how to get home after the event so youre not stranded or stuck staying
later than you want at the event when you have an early day ahead on
interview day.
4. Interview Day: Getting from lodging to interview site. You will usually
get information about meeting time and location for interview day at
the social event the night before, if not in advance via email. Make sure
you know how to get to the meeting place and know how long it will take
you to get there. If taking a cab, call the evening before and schedule a
pick-up. If walking, allot extra time if walking in heels. Aim to show up
10-15 minutes early.
5.
Interview site to next stop, either back to lodging or to the airport. Again,
plan ahead to determine if you have enough time to go back to your hotel,
pick up your bags and head to the airport. If not, you should
bring your bags with you to the interview day and make sure in advance
that there is a place to leave your belongings, and that the interview day
coordinator is expecting you to come with bags. You should leave yourself
extra time on interview day morning for this.
6.
Finally, interviews done and its off to the airport and then home or to
another interview. There may be times along the interview trail when you
will have back-to-back interviews and will be on the road for days to
weeks at a time without a stop back home. Plan and pack accordingly.
Remember to take into account changing time zones when planning
travel. If you check your bag, always carry on your suit in case your bag
gets lost.
Timing: It can be difficult to plan all these details because interview invitations
will roll in over a few weeks and you may find yourself with schedule conflicts.
Before you find yourself in this situation, you should have a rough idea of which
programs you would prioritize before others, so you feel comfortable cancelling/rescheduling according to the interviews you want most. Some programs
will announce their interview dates and you can create a calendar of possible
interviews to see where potential scheduling conflicts will arise. When scheduling logistics, hotel reservations are a safe first step, granted that there are
no fees associated with cancelling or changing a reservation. Because most
airlines do charge a fee for changing tickets, you can wait to purchase tickets
until you are sure you will not run into any scheduling conflicts for a particular
date. Because most interviews do not take place during peak travel season, it
will usually not be difficult to find the flights needed, even when booked only 2-3
weeks in advance.
TIPS:
Southwest Airlines: no fee for changing itineraries, free checked baggage
Some schools may have an alumni network of people willing to host
interviewing students visiting their city
Find a consistent way to keep all your interviews and travel schedule
organized, and make sure to update it as you switch/cancel interview
dates
Along with mock interviews, being prepared for common questions can help
ease some of the tension involved with surgical interviews. Most students
found that outlining the answers to specific questions is beneficial. While
the outline provides the student a chance to think about a question, it also
maintains an answers sincerity in real interviews. Writing answers down
allows a student to work through the proper wording and grammar, but can also
come off as scripted in the interview.
Some Common questions include:
Why did you choose to pursue general surgery?
Who are your role models and why?
Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
What do you look for in a program?
Why our program?
Are you hoping to specialize?
Tell us about your research?
What are your hobbies outside of school?
What is your proudest accomplishment?
Why should we choose you?
What traits do you feel are important to succeed in surgery?
It is also important to think of answers to questions specific to your application.
For instance, if there is a specific deficiency in your application, you should be
ready to answer questions regarding that deficiency. Also be ready to describe
any and all aspects of your application. If you included a research project from
prior to medical school, you should be able to describe the project in detail in
your interview. Some interviews have ethical questions so it is important to
develop your own method to answer these types of questions. Think of ethical
scenarios you witnessed during med school and be prepared to discuss the
reason you or your team acted in that manner.
Going into your interviews you should also know the assets of the programs at
which you are visiting. Most general surgery programs have good websites
which can provide you with the programs mission statement, the basic
structure of the program, recent accomplishments of the faculty, research
opportunities, and recent graduate placement. Mentors can also help you by
pointing out a programs strengths and weaknesses. Having this information
can aid you in developing well thought-out questions for your interviews.
Gathering this information will also help later down the road when making your
rank list.
Interviews:
Pace yourself, interviews are nerve-wracking so take a breath to organize
your thoughts before answering questions
Be confident in your responses, always answer questions honestly and
succinctly
Dont be afraid to ask about things you are concerned about research
funding, specific lab experiences, strength of individual departments
Illegal questions happen, but an interview is a bad time to take a stand or
make a point!
Give them whatever info you are comfortable with, but do not get upset
during the interview
You can address any concerns after you finish your interview with the
PD or coordinator
After Each Interview:
Write notes about what you discussed with each interviewer, it is really
easy to fall out of this habit but it makes thank you notes so much easier/
faster
You can easily plug a specific sentence about what you discussed, then
they know you remembered the conversation
Also write down any additional questions you thought of after your time
ended and mention them in your note
Before leaving, ask the residency coordinator for emails/addresses if you
plan to send thank you notes
Send the residency coordinator a thank you note!
Evaluating Programs
Short version:
Pick criteria, apply them to all programs, expect them to evolve with time
Keep a journal or spreadsheet and write down your impressions right
after each interview
Use both a qualitative (gut feeling) and a quantitative system (point
system) of evaluating programs
There is no consensus on rankings of the best surgical programs because
everyones criteria differ. In truth there are a large number of excellent
programs that will train you well as a surgeon. In evaluating programs you
should take into account all of the factors below, knowing that not all are
equally important to you in making your final decision. Take into account things
outside of just your clinical training - i.e. family, academic interests, health
policy, etc. Remember that although the interview is a time for you to sell
yourself to programs, it is also the time when you should be critically evaluating
the programs to make sure they are right for you.
FACTOR
Location
Social event
Residents
Physician extenders
Program Director,
Chairman
Didactic curricula
Academic/Professional
Development Time
Sites
THINGS TO CONSIDER
Close to family, friends? Cost of living? Will you enjoy living in this place for 5-7 years?
Was there good resident turn out? Did the residents seem to genuinely like each other
and get along well?
Were the residents fun, interesting, people you could see yourself working with? Are the
residents happy? Can they name specific things about the program that they like?
Is there good support from PAs, NPs, etc. to help you with floor work so you can get to
the OR even as an intern and PGY-2?
Is the Program Director approachable, do the residents consider him/her to be a good
advocate for residents? Is the Chairman someone who prioritizes resident education and
training and who will keep the program on solid footing?
What is the curriculum for ABSITE and general didactics? Is there a structured
curriculum for lap skills, surgical knowledge, or is it a do-it-yourself program?
Many academic centers will have the option or the requirement for residents to engage in
some sort of academic development period. Most often this will be for a 2 year period
after the PGY2 or 3 year. What are the resources available (salary/grant support), what
types of experiences are approved (additional degree programs, research, international
experiences, etc.) does the program have mentors that you would want to work with?
What other sites will you cover as a resident in addition to the main hospital? Is there a
VA or a city/county/community/private practice hospital experience? Often times you will
have much greater autonomy and higher case loads at training centers like a VA or
county hospital
If you have a specific interest in a sub-specialty or academic topic, inquire as to the
resources and strength of those departments
Have there been recent changes in leadership or impending changes that would disrupt
your training? Recent ACGME violations, probation status?
What is the overall culture of the program? Soft and cuddly, malignant, work hard, play
hard, etc. Beware that many programs will have reputations that prove to be false. Make
your own determination after you see the program
What measures have been put into place to achieve compliance - hiring of physician
extenders, night float, etc.? Are residents routinely working more than 80 hours and
pressured to underreport?
Not the most important things to base your decision on, but important to note and may say
something about the programs philosophy
An overall impression of whether or not the programs structure, resources, people and
culture create an environment in which you think you can thrive
Handwritten
CONS
POST-INTERVIEW PERIOD
Step 3: Hash out the details. This was the hardest part for mezooming
in and figuring out my true preferences. For each group, it might help to
make a separate ROL for each criterion you value. For example, make a list
based purely on location. Then one for quality of program. And so on. You
might start to see some patterns or at least be able to solidify a few spots
on your list. Refer back to the criteria in the Evaluating Programs chapter
for other factors that may be important to consider.
Step 4: Allow plenty of time! As soon as you can enter your rank list, DO
IT and CERTIFY IT. Let it sink in for a few days and see how it feels. Then
make adjustments as your frame of mind evolves throughout the month
prior to the deadline. I also recommend getting early input from your student colleagues, mentors, letter writers, family, and advocates. Eventually
my list settled in and I became confident in my choices.
Step 5: Make sure your ROL is certified. It should say Certified ROL. Youll
get a confirmation email and that is it. If you make any changes just hit the
certify button again. But please try to avoid making changes right before
the deadline. Stats show a high rate of regret among applicants who do
this. So give yourself the necessary time. After that, good luck!
The rules:
Rule #1: Follow the rules set by NRMP
Programs cant ask you specifically about your rank list
You cant ask programs where theyre ranking you
Both parties ARE allowed to volunteer this information to each other
Rule #2: Never mislead a program about your rank list.
The most common example is telling multiple programs you ranked them #1. You
will not be able to hide from the truth once the match results are released. If a
program thinks you lied to them, you can forget about any future opportunities
there (fellowship, faculty positions, etc).
Important Tangent: This rule also prohibits ambiguous statements such as at
the top of my list. It is too easy to misinterpret this as ranking that program #1.
In addition, program directors werent born yesterday. Most will interpret at
the top of my list as NOT #1. If a program is not your #1 choice, sincerely state
your strong interest in the program, but avoid any specifics about where you
ranked them.
Rule #3: Programs like applicants who like them
The reality: For most applicants, once interviews are finished, your position
on a programs rank list probably will not change no matter what you do. That
being said, tactfully executed strategies can move you up on a programs list,
and certainly will not hurt your chances.
What you can do: These steps need to be done 3-4 weeks before the rank list is
due
Ask faculty at your institution to advocate for you. General Surgery is a small
community, so a trusted colleague advocating for an applicant has the most
potential to help. Reserve this for your #1 choice. When deciding whom to ask,
the ideal faculty advocate should:
Know you well and think highly of you
Have a personal connection to the program director, chair, or institution
Be well-respected as a surgeon
Admittedly, it is difficult to find an advocate who meets all three criteria. That
being said, remember that any advocate who knows you well and thinks highly
of you has the potential to help.
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Be positive in your response. Even if that program isnt in your top 3-5,
you need to convey sincere interest in the program. If they ranked you
highly, you want to keep it that way in case you dont match in your top
3-5 (see Rule #3).
Remember Rule #2. You should definitely tell your #1 program that youre
ranking them #1. For everyone else, tell them youre sincerely interested,
but avoid any specifics about where you are ranking them.
Email Sent from Program Director with Reply (if program not ranked #1):
Dear ___________,
I wanted to thank you once again for your interest in our
program. All of us who met with you were thoroughly impressed
by you, and we would all be thrilled to have you become a part
of our program. I hope that we were able to convey to you our
eagerness and commitment to train and mentor you to become an
accomplished clinical surgeon and surgical scholar and to achieve
whatever goals you set for yourself.
We plan to rank you as one of our top ___ applicants, assuring
that you will match here if you choose to do so. If you should
match elsewhere, we hope that you will consider us for future
fellowship training or faculty positions. We also hope that you
will keep us apprised of your progress, and that you will feel
free to contact us at anytime if we can be of assistance to you
in any way.
We wish you much success.
Sincerely yours,
____________ (program director)
Appendices
My first encounter with surgery occurred when I was in sixth grade. One
afternoon in February, I developed back pain that rapidly worsened over
the next several hours. My parents took me to the emergency room, where
a pediatric surgeon was consulted and brought up the possibility of
necrotizing fasciitis. Exploratory surgery confirmed the diagnosis.
Postoperatively, I developed septic shock and went back to the
operating room twice for further debridement and wound closure.
Although I was only eleven at the time, the experience sparked my
interest in surgery. Later in college, as I considered pursuing a
career in medicine, I often thought of the doctor who had performed the
surgeries and managed my care. These efforts allowed me to make a
complete recovery. My family and I were able to return to our normal
lives. I wanted to have this kind of impact on the lives of others, and
that was my motivation for pursuing a career in medicine.
Once I entered medical school and began considering different
specialties, surgery seemed like a natural place to start. Not
surprisingly, I was initially drawn to how surgeons treated the most
critically ill patients, and the potential impact they could make on
the lives of these patients and their families. During my clinical
rotations, I was also impressed by how surgeons took ownership of
patient care, from preoperative evaluation to performing surgery and
managing postoperative care. Having trained as an engineer during my
undergraduate studies, I was also drawn to the methodical, data-driven,
and results-oriented approach of surgery. The strongest impression,
however, was made after I reflected on the diversity of surgeries I had
scrubbed during my clinical rotations: laparoscopic appendectomies,
below-the-knee amputations, liver transplants, Whipple procedures.
General surgery was the only residency program that would provide me
with such a broad base of clinical training while allowing me to
visualize pathology with my own eyes and correct it with my own hands.
At this point, I already knew I wanted to work with critically ill
patients now I knew this was the way I wanted to do it.
Throughout my clinical rotations and research, I found that my
undergraduate training in chemical engineering has been one of my
greatest strengths. It provided me with a strong foundation in
leveraging scientific fundamentals and statistics to objectively inform
decision-making. As with surgery, engineering was also team-based and
results-oriented with a focus on effective communication. From a
research perspective, I was able to utilize this foundation throughout
the research process, whether it was coordinating and training a team
of my peers to collect data, drafting manuscripts and responding to
reviewer feedback, or presenting findings at surgical conferences. I
look forward to continuing to build on this foundation at the next
level of training.
Looking towards the future, my goal is to become a specialized surgeonscientist at an academic center with an active role in clinical
practice, research, and teaching. Ultimately, I hope to make the most
of my career in surgery, whether its providing care to patients,
improving clinical practice through research, or training the next
generation of physicians.
Department of Surgery
2110 Taubman Center
1500 E. Medical Center Dr.
Ann Arbor, MI 48109