1988-0710: The discretion of Hamsa, Hamsa Puja,

Germany
From Sahaja Yoga Book Project
Today we have decided to have a Hamsa Puja in Germany. We have
never yet paid much attention to this center of Hamsa, which is, I
think, very important for the Western world, rather than for the
Indian or the Eastern. The reason is, at the Hamsa chakra, part of
the Ida and Pingala come out and manifest - means the expression
of Ida and Pingala is given through the Hamsa chakra.
So this Hamsa chakra is the one that, as if has not gone up to the
Agya, but is holding on certain threads or certain parts of the Ida
and Pingala. And they start flowing through your nose, expressing
through your eyes, from your mouth and from your forehead. So you
know that Vishuddhi chakra has got sixteen petals which look after
the eyes, nose, throat, tongue, teeth. But the expression part of it
comes through the Hamsa chakra, of all these. So its a very, very
important thing in a Western mind, to understand Hamsa chakra.
Theres a beautiful couplet about this in Sanskrit, Hansa kshveta
ha, baka ha kshveta ha . ko bhedo hansa bakayo ho. Neera ksheera
vivek e tu. Hansa ha hansaksh, baka ha baka ha. Meaning The
crane and the swan, both are white. And what makes a difference
between the two? If you mix the water and the milk together the
hamsa (swan) will just suck in the milk. So it can discriminate
between the water and the milk while the bakha, means the crane,
cannot. Its a very significant thing for Sahaja Yogis to understand.
Discretion is to be understood very deeply within ourselves. And
how we develop discretion is very important in Sahaja Yoga. But
before we go to that let us see how this discretion plays a part, very
much, in the manifestation of our expressions outside. We are the
people, in the West, who always try to express ourselves outside.
Its very important how you look, its very important where you look,
what you look at, what you see. Its very important that your
appearance should be good. [They are] very particular, they spend
lots of time in improving their appearance. This is the minimum.
Then they have a method by which we call the Medias. The country
speaks or manifests through the Medias. And the Medias have to
have a training. Every country has its specialty one better than the
nother. And when you see all of them you find they lack discretion
completely. Also in our speech, in our expression of literature,
expression of poetry, expression of our relationships with others,
any kind of expression, requires discretion which is a deep-seated
knowledge or wisdom.
If in the West people were not so much outside, they would have

been much better off I think. If, supposing, in England, people dont
become punks, then others will laugh at them and theyll think that
this man has no money to become a punk. So a kind of a fashion
that sets in , in a society of that kind, which has no discretion and
which is very outward. Fashions wont work out in countries where
they are deeply rooted into traditions and into a proper
understanding of life. Of course, the countries which have been very
ancient, have been traditionally trying to improve themselves, with
error and trial and error and trial methods, have developed much
better discretion, much better understanding. But the countries,
which have not gone through all that ordeal, have not worked out,
have not gone through that discipline, lack in discretion. And thats
why many of the people though they are of very deep seeking have
gone astray. If they had discretion they would not have gone astray,
they would not have gone to wrong places, but the discretion was
missing.
So it comes to the discretion how to use your Ida Nadi and Pingala
Nadi and discretion to understand what is good and what is bad.
Now let us see the Ida Nadi. Ida Nadi is very important because the
discretion in this can only come through traditional understanding.
Ida Nadi starts from the Ganeshas point Mooladhara.
So first we miss the biggest support, the biggest help, the biggest
nourishment of holiness and auspiciousness, at Mooladhara, if we
have no discretion. We always take to a thing, which is detrimental
to our growth, and also which may destroy us, not only us but the
whole country. We like people who are destructive, when there is no
discretion. Discretion means that you must choose the things which
are good for you, which are benevolent to you, which are good for
the collective, which are good for your ascent. On the contrary, the
people who have no discretion fall into the traps of wrong type of
people like, say, Freud. I mean to an Indian, Freud; nobody can
believe that you can go into such an nonsensical idea. But people
accepted Freud more than they could accept Christ. Because the
discretion was completely missed. If they had that traditional
discretion in them, they would have been saved. This traditional
discretion is the thing that comes through Ida Nadi. Now thats what
the people call conditioning and they say that conditioning is very
bad, and people should not take to conditioning and one should be
free from conditioning, which is absolutely a wrong idea. In that also
there has to be discretion. What conditioning is good and what is not
good has to be taken. Now, because there is no discretion about
conditioning also; outright discarding all traditions, all that is coming
to us through our experiences of our forefathers, everything is
discarded. The history is discarded and we say, Oh, no, we are
beyond it, we feel free. Like I was surprised, yesterday, in the
plane, somebody told me, I feel very free when I have no clothes
upon myself. I mean if the clothes can imprison you then what

happens to the real prisons, what will they be for you? But that sort
of a funny idea comes into the head of people and they think that,
We can justify all this stupidity that we follow because we lack
discretion. Intelligence cannot give you discretion, it cannot give
you discretion as far as the conditioning is concerned. For a Sahaja
Yogi it is important to understand how you develop your discretion.
Yesterday only, I gave a very beautiful talk to the ladies of Paris, or I
should say ladies of France, regarding the discretion of women. The
discretion of the Ida Nadi is intuition. If you develop that discretion
within you, through your meditative powers, you develop intuition.
And intuition is nothing but the help of the Ganas, which are
surrounding you. If you learn to take help from the Ganas you can
become very intuitive and without much intelligence of yours you
can say the right thing. The whole of Sahaja Yoga, I would say fifty
percent at least out of that, is based on intuition.
For that you have to develop a proper sense of Shri Ganesh. Shri
Ganesh in its right sense you have to understand. From there it
starts because hes Ganapati, hes the one who is the master, is the
chief of all the Ganas. So the Ganas give you the intuition. For
example, say, I have to go somewhere and then what I say is that
No, I wont be able to go there tomorrow. And I wont go somehow.
And people think, Mother, how do You know? I know, because the
Ganas are there and what they say is the truth, they know all about
it. Or anything I say about someone comes true.
So they start asking me, How is it Mother You have come to know
about it? I live on intuition. Like I have to catch a plane I know by
intuition whats going to happen. This part has to develop by
worshiping Shri Ganesh. So imagine Shri Ganesha also rules a part
of the Hamsa chakra. So when we say humHum and Sa - these
two are actually the bija mantras of the Agya. But when the Agya
touches the Hamsa it starts here, thats why at the base, at the root
of it is the Hamsa. And here, the humhumhum means I am.
If you are discrete you will not take to fashions, youll not take to
stupid ideas. You have your own personality You are a Sahaja Yogi.
You dont listen to people who are non-Sahaja Yogis. That is the
humhum part I am - not the ego part. But the humhum - to
understand that Im a Yogi and I know so many things which
normally people dont know and so I have nothing to do with them.
Ive not to take any lessons from them. They are not to teach me
anything. Theres nothing that they know, I know much more. To be
aware of your Self is humhum.
So that comes from the right side I would say. The discretion of right
side is hum, and the discretion of left side is Sa. Sa means You.
Means You are The One. In your case you know who is the You.

But for every human being, You is the Divine. You are The One.
This comes from the left side, is Sa. So the word Hamsa is made
of two types of discretion where to see I am and where to see You
are. On these two balances, as they have shown here beautifully,
the Moon and the Sun. In the center is the cross, which gives you
the balance, which gives you the dharma. How all these things are
connected, one after another, in layers after layers; you can see
how dharma is connected with discretion.
Now there are people who are suddenly enticed by some sort of a
ritual. For example Ive seen some Sahaja Yogis, they come to the
Puja and they are giving bandhan to themselves like mad. On the
way theyll go theyll give bandhan. Anywhere they go theyll give
bandhan, like mad. Thats just conditioning, thats not discretion
thats not Sahaja Yoga. It is to be seen is it to be given bandhan or
not?
In the presence of Mother there is bandhan, what is there to give
bandhan to yourself? For people, when Im talking, are giving
bandhan, raising their Kundalini. Theyre all mad people, I think.
Yesterday I heard theres one kind of a music record is played
everywhere in the ashrams, because they can all jump like on a
camel. Its a music for the camels, you see. Now this record
everybody appreciates. Why? Because they can jump like a camel.
Once you start jumping like a camel human beings cant give up,
they form habits. So they like that particular music, theyll go on
jumping like a camel because now they have become camels, they
have to behave like camels.
Now if theres something, some music, which is like a horse, like the
trot maybe, maybe gallop, anything. Now once they listen to it
suddenly they start following that rhythm, now they become the
horse, which is galloping. Now if the horse is galloping they become
horses and they only like that galloping music. So on and so forth.
Could be a donkey, could be anything. We are not animals, we are
human beings and we are hum We are. We are Sahaja Yogis, we
are not dominated by any particular type of rhythm or particular
type of music. Every variety we can appreciate and understand as
long as it is dharmic, as long as it is balancing, as long as it is
auspicious and holy. So you can see on the Hamsa how many things
are judged. I think the whole of Sahaja Yoga stands on the balance
of Hamsa.
There are people who are very astute - means very honest. But this
honesty can go into a ridiculous limit. Or else there are people who
are very hard working. This can also go to the ridiculous limit. So
these qualities, which are supposed to be good, cannot be
righteous. The righteousness is discretion glorified. If you have
discretion then you glorify that discretion into righteousness. Like,

we can take Christ. Christ was such a discretion. When Mary

Magdalene was stoned, he had nothing to do with prostitutes, I
mean, its nothing to do at all, no relationship. But he could see in
discretion that these people had no business to stone her. He stood
up there, in hes own courage, and he said that, Those who have
not committed any sin can throw the stone at me. This is the power
of his discretion that people just felt that discretion within
themselves and they felt that, in discretion, this man is a holy man
and we cannot throw stones at Him. If you are discrete, as Sahaja
Yogis, you will make others discrete also. Others will have to be
discrete and to understand. And this niraksheera vivek is the
differentiation between the water and the milk, the bad and the
good, can come to you if you develop that discretion part.
In Sahaja Yoga, at every stage, youll find people falter, also with the
right side indiscretion. And the right side indiscretion comes from
the ego manifestation of people. This ego is, as I said, is hum. This
ego doesnt work when it has to work. For example I find some
people went for a marriage in the church. Of course, thats wrong for
Sahaja Yogis, we dont believe in any human religions, you know
that. All right, you went to the churches, all right. But they sent a
lady to London to buy Laura Ashley dresses. And I think, also,
maybe,some men must be wearing tailcoats to do the wedding.
Where is that ego lost? That ego that you are a Sahaja Yogi was
completely lost. But I think they all went for hairdressing, all kinds of
things they did and they all wanted to go there as old Christians
walking to the church next to the graves of stupid bishops.
Its not only here, India is much worse. As far as religion is
concerned, the left side, they are very, very conditioned people, and
there they fail to understand what discretion is. For example, we had
Gyanadeva. He was such a great Incarnation and he didnt even
have shoes on his feet! And these days they are taking out a big
procession of palanquin, so-called shoes in it of Shri Gyanadeva
and thousands and thousands of people singing praise, just imagine.
Who can tell them that, Gyanadeva had no shoes, what shoes are
you carrying in the palanquin? And whatever village they go to or
whatever city they go to, they are fed with sumptuous food;
everybody falls at their feet: The saints have come with a
palanquin and the shoes which never belonged to Gyanadeva in it.
So this madness goes on.
Now you see all these things happening around you in every
country, in every religion, in every stupid area you see all this
happening. But you just join hands, you become one with it. And
then it becomes so difficult to understand what has happened to
you. Now this Ego, when used properly, then its discretion.
Now also people have another very horrid, horrid conditioning apart

from the religion is of the countries, I belong to India, I belong

to Germany, I belong to England. Everything is wretched. I mean,
to say something like that means you are not yet grown up to the
Sahasrara land. Those who start becoming some nationality do not
know that your nationality is transformed, actually dont need any
passports. In the area where the Divine reigns no passport is
needed, its writ large on your faces. But still inside is deep
conditioning is there that, I belong to this country, my countrys
very great, your countrys not good. But when it comes to
discretion is to think that, All right, I was born in Germany and
Germany has made lots of mistakes, let me work it out, so that I get
back all my German people into the area where resides peace, joy
and happiness. There, this conditioning is used in discretion.
In everything you will find there are two sides. Which way you move
is your discretion. For example, there are people who have a
conditioning of a particular a religion. Supposing they belong to the
Jew religion and have come to Sahaja Yoga or they belong to
Christianity and have come to Sahaja Yoga. So now what is the
discretion? As soon as another Jew person comes or a Christian
person comes in, theyll just get into a fraternity of bhoots there.
And they all become great friends, because Shes Jew, Im Jew, my
father is Jew, my mother is Jew, my this thing is Jew. Same with
Christians, same with other communities, same with any other
nationality. Now, what is the discretion when you see. The best
thing, discretion, at that point, is to see what are the faults of these
so-called human religions which are formed after the death of the
promoters, or we can say the incarnations or the prophets who
started the religion. This is first discretion.
The second discretion is to read those scriptures and find out what is
so special that these incarnations have said. I would say, if there is a
Muslim, he should go to Koran and see whats written in Koran as far
as Sahaja Yoga is concerned. If its a Christian, let him go to the
Bible and find out whatever is written there as far as Sahaja Yoga is
concerned. Because Sahaja Yoga is the truth, and what truth is
written has to be found out. If such a thing is developed, then you
can go further, if you are brave enough, and can be courageous, to
go and tell the people, that, See, what is this nonsense you are
following? Its not written, its not done. Whatever is written this is
the essence of the whole thing. Thats the third stage where you
have used your discretion as far as a particular religion, nationality
is concerned.
Now, when I am in the West, I have to discuss the West. But when I
am in India you must hear me! You dont understand the language its good for you because youll lose all respect for Indians. I give
them left and right! And tell them whats wrong with them. But here
it is important that, much is wrong with us in the West. So the
discretion is to see whats gone wrong with us, where are we wrong.

Have you got any courage or not. For example, ladies dont have
courage to wear a sari outside. Why? Sometimes it doesnt matter.
When Indians can wear your dresses you can wear sari also. Or a
man wont wear Indian dresses outside. Is a little hum is needed.
They enjoy it, but they wont wear. Theyll wear the same funny
holey pants. They can wear the punky stuff, but they cant wear
something that is sensible, is good to wear. Its something that must
give you the idea that we are different people.
Now this red mark is very important because then you dont catch
any bhoots and has to be worn. In the Bible it's written that there
will be a mark on their heads. But because there are so many other
stupid people like Hare Rama Hare Krishna - I dont think they wear
any marks - we are frightened of the society how to wear a mark.
But supposing they say that you go about with dishevelled hair,
well do it, because thats allowed in the society.
We are not to be afraid of any society, we have to come out of it and
we have to teach them. Whatever is good we are going to do
whether you like it or not, thats the sign of a saint. If you have seen
any saint anywhere, theyve gone all out to say whatever is right
and whatever is to be done and whatever is to be followed. Thats
the sign of a saint, otherwise if a saint sometimes gets dissolved
into the society, sometimes in Sahaja Yoga, sometimes here, then
whats the use of such saints?
Tell me any saint whom you know, who has not fought the society,
who has not pointed out the mistakes of the society, in a very loud
manner, without any fear. Have you known any saint like that? For
Sahaja Yogis it is very important to have that courage within
themselves. If you develop your discretion, then it works out.
On the ego side what kind of a discretion you develop and how. On
the right side are all the Devas, all the deities sitting around you.
You have to understand these deities, you have to know what They
are going to do. Supposing, now you are lost on the way. So, you
should not think like all other people, Oh, Im lost in the way, how
will I go there, what will I do? After all, you are going for some
nonsensical work. Doesnt matter. But you must think, Why?
Hanumana, he must have brought me here for some purpose, lets
be on the lookout.
Accept it. Accept the situation. When you accept the situation you
are playing into the hands of the deities and they are guiding you,
your deities are working it out. Accept it. And this acceptance will
give you a wonderful discretion over your ego. Whatever goes
wrong Its all right, we accept it. And above all the vibrations
part, which you have to see. If you do something, if the vibrations

are going down then of course, I am a Sahaja Yogi. To me vibrations

and my ascent is the most important thing.
So to develop the discretion on the right hand side you have to
know your goal, your destination. You must know on what path you
are standing and where you are brought, where are you today. You
are not like other people. If that kind of a discretion you develop,
within yourself, through pure intelligence. For that you need pure
intelligence. And pure intelligence in a hamsa (swan) is that it glides
on the water, it shrugs [off] the water, it doesnt allow anything to
overpower it. Its in the water beautifully beautifying the lakes, also
not allowing the lake to dissolve them or to overpower them or to
cover them. This is the part where they are hum. If they want they
can dive down, if they dont want, they will not. Theyre gliding on
the ocean, ocean of Samsara, of this Bhavasagara and they are not
going to be drowned into it. That is the hum part of it which you
should have, the discretion. On the one side you should accept
things that come to you.
The best among these was Shri Krishna, I would say, who had real
discretion. But, after all, he was Shri Krishna. But his methods were
so interesting of discretion that its enjoyable to know about how he
destroyed so many rakshasas. Every time he did not use his
Sudarshan chakra, he used his discretion. Like there was a rakshasa
who was trying to overpower the Pandavas, who was trying to
overpower the people who were good. Shri Krishna said, Now, what
to do with this horrible fellow. And this fellow had boons from
Brahmadeva and from Mahadeva and everyone. So Shri Krishna was
in the center, after all, so he wanted to organize a proper
destruction of this horrible rakshasa. So what he did, that there was
a great right sided saint meditating, and he had taken a boon that,
Nobody should disturb me, at least the one who disturbs me for the
first time, I should have power to destroy, if I look at that person.
And this one was meditating in a cave. Shri Krishna very beautifully
ran away from the battlefield. His name is Ranchordas. Its a little bit
derogatory to say to somebody that The one who ran out of the
battlefield.
So Shri Krishna ran out of the battlefield. But there was no other
way out to kill this horrible fellow. And he went and he was covering
Himself with a shawl, he went into that cave and covered that saint
with his shawl. After Shri Krishna was running [away from] this
horrible rakshasa, to kill him, Shri Krishna went and hid Himself.
When this rakshasa came near the cave and he saw the shawl
covering this saint. He said, Oh, so now you are tired and sleeping
here, running away from the field! Get up now! As soon as he said
this, this saint got up and looked at him and he was completely
burnt away.
So, if Shri Krishna is the Virata, at his feet;or if Shri Krishna is

Vitthala on his head, in between the two resides Hamsa chakra. The
discretion is very beautifully described in the life of Shri Krishna. We
can call Him that he had a naughty way of using his discretion. He
has done so many things like that. But they create a drama, they
create his Leela. Because he was Leela thats why he could use his
discretion to create a drama or play.
So on one side we have the help of Shri Krishna to give us the
discretion, and on the other side we have Christ. In between is
placed this Hamsa. So we have two great incarnations within us who
are the embodiment of discretion. So one side is Shri Krishna who is
the one who looks after the conditioning side of it. And on the other
side is Christ who starts looking after the ego side of it. The One who
says on the cross, Oh, God, forgive them because they do not
know. Oh, Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are
doing. Is the same One Who takes a hunter in his hand and hits
people, starts beating them, because they are making money in the
name of God. See the discretion. Thats Jesus. Same Shri Krishna,
Who with his Sudarshan chakra can kill thousands and thousands of
rakshasas, becomes the driver of Arjuna. The contrast of their
behavior is the beautiful saga of Their discretion.
Now for a Sahaja Yogi it is important to understand that they have to
work out their discretion in a manner that they develop their
intuition. I would say the first thought could be the intuition, could
be the intuition. Could be that this is intuition. Try, experiment. But
going to the extremes of everything is wrong in Sahaja Yoga, you
have to do everything in moderation.Like I told them to see
everything through vibrations. So they will put their hands, I dont
know, to everything. Should I buy this sari or not? Even go beyond
that. Should I buy this face powder or not? Its so ridiculous, is so
bad, that ultimately you find you have become a bhoot and you are
telling everybody that your vibrations are bad, because your
vibrations are bad. Your attention is bad. Putting your attention to
nonsensical things makes your vibrations absolutely disappear.
So, with discretion you must have common sense, practical sense.
Ive seen people suddenly talking to anybody about Sahaja Yoga.
No, its not practical. Sahaja Yoga is a precious diamond, you cannot
give it to every person. Ive seen people at the airport raising
Kundalini of everyone. No, its not meant, they have to come to
Sahaja Yoga, they have to ask for it, they have to beg for it, then
only they can get their Realization. We dont want quantity, we want
quality. All My lectures if you see, in that, Ive been insisting on the
quality of Sahaja Yogis and the quality of the seekers. But when we
start thinking of getting a majority for a vote for Shri Mataji - I have
to say that Im not standing for any election. Whether you elect me
or not Im elected. You dont have to do that. I dont need many

people for that. And when you fail in discretion you find some
problems develop.
Now, it is for you to find out what indiscrete things you have done,
where have you gone wrong, in which way have you done a mistake.
It is for you to find out, then rectify it. Otherwise in Sahaja Yoga
there should be no problems, there should be no ordeals, there
should be all joy and joy and joy. But the discretion should be to find
out what are your weaknesses, where have you done wrong, whats
gone wrong, where, in what part and how we have failed.
Sometimes people think, Oh, we did a lot at that time, now we
cant do it. Then you have failed. Like I heard that people are
saying, Now we have come here, so well not go to Guru Puja its
wrong, its very wrong, we have to come to Guru Puja, no question.
Guru Puja is the one puja you cannot miss. Even if you miss
Sahasrara is alright, but Guru Puja is very important. At any cost you
have to come for Guru Puja.
I know I chose a place, which is Andorra, but its not Himalayas! Now
Sahaja Yoga is so comfortable that we want that there should be no
change of flights, directly well sit on a hamsa and arrive. You will,
youll see that. But if you are developing the habit of thinking, Oh,
it would be difficult, then it will be[?]. But as Mother has said it, it is
going to be the easiest. Everything is going to work out. Once you
think like that, everything will work out. But first there should be
pure desire to do it. Whenever such ideas come into your head,
again use your discretion.
We go to Guru Puja for our own health. Every Guru Puja, if you
remember, you have come up very much higher. Every Guru Puja
has helped you. Of course you say that Maharashtra Tour is very
good, I agree, it is, Maharashtra Tour helps you a lot. But thats for
thirty days, so intensive. But Guru Puja is only one day. How many
pujas you have in Maharashtra? At least eight to nine, sometimes
even ten. Thats why, naturally it has to be much more effective. But
Guru Puja itself is extremely effective. Indians have been asking me,
Mother, once, at least once more, give us the Guru Puja. Well give
anything to have a Guru Puja. Please come. This time they wanted
to have a Guru Puja. Imagine! You could not have attended Guru
Puja in India. But with Andorra I have a special purpose, I have a
special purpose. So please understand, I am not a purposeless
personality. Gradually you will learn how I fulfill the purpose yours,
Mine and that of Sahaja Yoga, together. How I work it out beautifully,
you will understand and I hope one day you also develop all those
beautiful ways and methods of discretion by which you just do the
right thing and never the wrong thing!
Now for the treatment of Hamsa chakra, which is more on the

physical side, is outside, thats why it has to be much more on the

physical side also. So as we have used the ghee, and all that you
know very well, to put the Hamsa chakra alright. Also for Hamsa
chakra its important not to kiss people. I think kissing must be
given up, because in kissing you do allow the germs of another
person, in Sahaja Yoga its alright. But once I say that, that doesnt
mean you go all crazy with the kissing. No, not proper. If, in India,
you go and kiss somebody hell just be stunned, hell not know what
is happening.
The more you start expressing your love by all these gestures the
less it is inside. Now for example, theres a method of expressing
Thank you. I mean, you go on saying, Thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you. Its just a lip-service. But many people in
many countries dont say thank you at all, but they are very
grateful inside. The gratefulness inside, creates the depth that is
necessary. So to do it superficially, anything, too much, has to be
avoided in your discretion.
But avoiding extremes, avoiding too much outward expression,
again, can create another indiscretion like the English, they dont
speak, they just dont speak. You travel with them every day for
twenty-five miles, sitting together; they will not say who you are.
Theyll know each and everything about you, but theyll just keep
quiet. They are not supposed to speak, its artificial.
So the second point we have to come to we are not to be artificial.
Its alright, if somebody feels like, just out of just spontaneity wants
to love me and hug me, I dont mind, because its not artificial, it
just comes. Children are most spontaneous, they not artificial, they
are not at all artificial. In the same way we have to be very natural
about everything. Its alright, while talking to each other, if the men
hit the men a little bit, doesnt matter. They have not insulted, its a
love, expression of love, is alright. But should be spontaneous,
should not be artificial. We should not take to artificiality in Sahaja
Yoga, at all, by any chance.
But wearing clothes is not artificiality. To be decent is not artificiality.
To be dignified is not artificiality. Artificiality is that, what you dont
feel inside, is to say out. That is artificiality and for a Sahaja Yogi, he
feels he has that bashfulness, he has that shyness, he has that
protocol and he respects his body. Out of respect of the body he
doesnt want to do something that will insult his body. And thats
how if you understand how far to go and how far to stop.
Then there is another way of indiscretion in Sahaja Yoga, which I
have seen, is that people start using me for many purposes like
that. Like, supposing, now somebodys writing a poem. So hell
come to me, hell, Please correct my poem. Ill correct one poem,

two poems, three poems, ten poems, then he will lose the capacity
to produce poems.
You should not use me for your own purpose in that manner, but in
any case you are using me. But with an understanding that Mother
is all the time with me and is helping me, theres no need to come
forward and jump on My time and to take My time and to bother me
so that I should feel, O God, when will I get rid of this? Or others
have a thing, Mother, You must come to my house, You must take
my child, You must meet my husband, he might be a drunkard. So
taking attention to what you call yours is also indiscretion.
Instead of that you put your attention to me instead of taking My
attention to you. Its a very delicate line, as if we are walking on a
sword. Its a very, very delicate line of discretion. But once you know
as a state within yourself, you are discrete; you cannot be indiscrete
even if you want to be. And that is what is the ascent part.
So once you come out of this chakra and pass through your Agya,
you enter into Sahasrara where you have to be discrete. Whatever
then comes out from there blessed, whatever expression comes
out blessed, from the Sahasrara is all discrete and beautiful.
Some people have a habit of dominating me also. Like, if Im talking,
theyll talk inbetween. If I am saying something - they will come
forward. Then I play tricks, Im good at playing tricks. But Im very
discrete, so its alright. My discretion plays the tricks. Because if I
am direct you wont like it, so better to be discrete and play tricks.
In everything that we do discretion expresses itself and if you are a
solid Sahaja Yogi or a Sahaja Yogini your discretion is evident and
everybody sees it and knows it, that it is there. So for all of you it is
important to develop your discretion today and to ask me to reside
in your Hamsa chakra so that you are all the time stationed in the
power of discretion. With discretion we have evolved to the human
state and to go further we have to develop our innate discretion
which I think is the essence of all the religions, of all the adventures
we have had, of all the lives which we have known, is the discretion
around which everything moves.
May God bless you all. May God bless you all.
I felt that Ive fallen into the depths of joy, into the ocean of joy. So
beautiful it was, that you all could come and give me such a
surprise. Of course I love you very much, no doubt.
My love is not mental, is not emotional, its existence itself. I exist
with it. Its my innate nature, which I could not enjoy unless and
until it is reflected. It has to be reflected and today I felt the

reflection in you people. I was so overjoyed, so very overjoyed.

Everything seems so beautiful.
All these petty problems that trouble you and sometimes try to
bother me also just disappeared. You just felt that everybody is so
cleansed and so beautiful, everybodys ego washed off and the
nectar of the beauty of love is just pouring into them. Its not easy
to describe, that was Nirananda, I felt, today, complete Nirananda.
To feel Your own joy reflected is something so boundless that You
cannot put them into the limitations of words. You have given me
the greatest joy today and a very great feeling that Sahaja Yoga now
will be established very well in Germany especially.
I always felt about Germany that it needed a special help and the
way you all have rushed here is something like a place,say in the
hand or in the feet, or theres some pain, so all the attention moves
towards that, like that. Germany is a very strong nation and if you
could take them to Sahaja Yoga well have that metal within us. Its
very important. Every country has something special. The metal of
Germany is very important and if that comes into us, well have that
courage. So may God bless you all for that. May God bless you.
(Later on.)
Alright, one, Ill speak for a five minutes.
In a way our European tour has now come up to Germany, up to
Munich and it has to spread out to other parts of Germany, is very
essential. Specially in Bavaria, as Ive heard, theres a lot of
orthodoxy and also an influence of the Catholic Church. So it was
necessary to start the German center in Bavaria, in Munich. But Im
so happy the way you all have come here and the way we have
worked it out, that we have really changed the vibrations of this
place. When I came here I felt the vibrations were not so good, and
many other people have used this place I was told. But I find you all
have changed the vibrations and things are much better here.
Thats how, the more you travel, the more you go, the more you talk
to people, the better it is, for them, to see how vibrations change
and to feel the goodness of the saints coming in their own glory. And
the saints are recognized by the change of the atmosphere.
Now I was thinking about when you are going to Andorra. So many
of you will be going by buses, and you can, on your buses, have big
posters put up or maybe banners put up. You can have the
photographs, you can wear the badges, you can stop at some
village, some place, talk to people, sing the song, all that will
change the atmosphere all the way, wherever you travel. Now the
time to keep quite has gone. Now we have to talk, we have to sing,

we have to show that we are quite capable people and that we can
express ourselves beautifully, in a dignified manner. For example,
its nice when we are together in privacy under a beautiful tent like
this. We can dance, we can enjoy ourselves. But when we are
outside, facing the public, we have to sing, but with dignity. Thats
the discretion part of it. And here we have to all enjoy among
themselves, jumping, laughing, everything is there.
But the outside world thinks that a saint should be a very serious
personality. Even to me they said, Mother, is there any photograph
where You are not smiling? I said, I dont know, maybe some of
them, quite angry also sometimes. So, I said, Why? Because in
America nobody likes a saint to smile. I said, Really? Is it, that all
the rest of the people should smile and enjoy and the saint should
sit sulking, is that what they expect a saint to do? Saint should be
the one who should be smiling and laughing. But they havent come
to that stage of understanding that the joy is the right of a saint and
not of an ordinary person.
So we need not look sulking and unhappy, but we need not be very
exuberant with our expressions. So this is how things will work out.
But I love to see you dancing and enjoying, your body rippling with
vibrations and everything feeling so nice, it looks so nice and
everything you can express through your own body, the joy that you
are feeling. Despite all that sometimes we find that there are some
people who cannot get over their sickening unhappiness, and they
look so funny and absurd in a group of people who are so joyous.
So I have to warn all of you because I had a case of a lady who was
from India and she was married; her husband was a very fine man,
very happy person, very joyous and a good person. But this lady
refused to assimilate herself with that group, with that society, with
everything and she just kept out, all the time, and was trying to
show that she was very unhappy, she could not mix up, she could
not be collective. As a result she had to go back. She has created a
problem for me but still she cant get over her stupid ideas about
her so-called unhappiness, so-called separation from her family
maybe, or so-called calamities, which are no more for a Sahaja Yogi.
So I have to request you that - come to your joyous condition. Be
happy, that you are in that condition. Thank God that nonsense of
unhappiness is gone. That is how you can see so many miracles,
you can see so many good things happening in your life. But if you
are a crying baby and if you are always complaining and you look so
miserable as if the whole world is falling upon you, then the whole
world will fall, you have asked for it, alright, have it.
You see, all the Ganas are waiting to do what you want. Now, you
want misery? Alright, have it. On a plate theyll give you the

miseries. But if you want to be happy they are there to make you
happy. So its important for you to understand that we have to be
very, very happy, joyous people, welcoming what Sahaja Yoga has
given us and not to be serious, unhappy, complaining, nonsensical.
You are above all these things. If we cannot rise above this then,
what will happen is that youll go down, down, and down, and down.
I love to see all the Sahaja Yogis enjoying music, dancing, singing
because you are in another world. You have got rid of all that was
nonsensical, all that is fallen off now. If it has not fallen, that means
you need more maturity, you have to come up. If you are still
serious, thinking what? This, that, then you require some more
meditation, shoe-beating, all kinds of things. You have to treat
yourself. But you have to be in joy, all the time in joy.
In joy you do not have unhappiness or happiness; its just joy,
absolute joy. I cannot keep Myself even serious for more than one
minute, I try to be serious but its difficult because so much joy is
bubbling all the time, that I find it difficult to show that Im not very
happy or Im angry.
So I would request you to be completely lost in the ocean of joy.
Give up all your conditionings, all your nonsensical ideas but just be
joyous and be happy with yourself and with all the rest of the Sahaja
Yogis and with me.
So this is the greatest discretion, today, we have to learn is to be
joyous and happy. Are we happy, are we joyous or are we
complaining? If you are complaining, if you are sitting like this, then
you are not a Sahaja Yogi. If you dont how to smile and laugh, then
you are not a Sahaja Yogi, absolutely, whatever you may say, you
are not a Sahaja Yogi. You must always have a smile on your face all
the time and you should be happy people. Not artificially, but from
within. If you are not felt it as yet better go into meditation, work it
out, see that you dont feel guilty, see that you dont feel unhappy.
Now those who feel unhappy among you please raise your hands
(All are laughing, including Shri Mataji). Thank you for this. Ah,
alright.
Nothing like laughing. Laughs is a greatest correction, youll laugh at
yourself, youll laugh at others. Dont make others look ridiculous,
but just enjoy the way others are and enjoy each other. They are all
very beautiful people, very beautiful, its like one beautiful flower is
enjoying the fragrance of another beautiful flower. Thats what
should be. One should not feel, that, Oh, look at this flowerits so
beautiful. Look at yourself, you are so beautiful too. But unless and
until you enjoy the fragrance and the beauty of another flower, you
cannot know what you are, because you are all just the same inside,

you are all people whos Spirit has come into their attention,
wonderful people, certified Yogis. See, you all have got the light on
your head, if you want to see, we have a photograph to show that
you are certified Yogis and on top of your head, all of you theres the
light. So youre already certified by every camera that you are Yogis.
Now whatever you may try it is so, youre already certified. So for
certified people its not proper to take other certificates.
May God bless you all.
(Shri Mataji sings along with Sahaja Yogis for some 6 minutes)
What a raga! It is a Hansadhwani
I must say I used to sing much better than this, but you see, if you
go on giving lectures you cant sing. You have to get get to one
thing and thats what has happened. But this raga is Hansadhwani.
Today is the Hamsas thing and this is Hansadhwani. Dhwani means
the sound of Hamsa.
Ah. Im just making fun of Indian people who who try to sing bhajan
in the villages, you see and they will sing one sentence which has no
meaning at all, you see, like Vitthala to barawa, means, Shri
Krishna Who is good. Again, Shri Krishna is good, hes good after
all, and whats the use of singing again. Thats all, you see, they
cannot tribute to Him. All of them singing this for hours together!
Vitthala to barawa, Vitthala to barawa. In everything theyll sing
that. So I was thinking whats the matter with these people, from
where did they get this word barawa? Maybe some poet whos
name must have been Baraway, so he has given this barawa,
barawa. But I think things will improve now when they will see the
way you sing, they will improve.
(Shri Mataji along with Sahaja Yogis sings Bhavani Dayani)
In this small song how much they have said, so many things.
amara pada dani. That She gives you the status, which is
indestructible, the position, which cannot be destroyed amara
pada, the highest. Thats the description of the Goddess and
thats what you have got.
May God bless you all.
So we have to thank the people of Germany have organized this
program so well, so beautiful. (Applause) Also we have to thank all
the musicians from Switzerland (Applause) who stayed back and
have brought such color to the all ending program. These are all
very memorable moments, so very beautiful. I hope you all will carry
the peace and the joy that you have imbibed within yourself here.

We have to thank all these people who have worked so hard to

prepare such beautiful presents for you and for me. Also we must
better thank the nature and atmosphere which was very kind to us.