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IGaveNSEAThisyear.IWasn'tevenawareofthesyllabusandpatternofexamwhenigaveit.StillIGotaGoodscore,qualifiedforINAOAndAlso
GotintoStateTop1%.whenisawthepaperifounditquiteeasy.AlthoughIHadtoleave5problemsofphysicswhichwerefromElectromagnetism
AndModernphysicswhichihave'ntstudiedyetindetail.AllTheAstronomyQuestionsWerequitetrivialonesandnumericalsbasedonastronomy
canbeeasilydoneifyouhavestudiedgravitationwellforJEE.EvenInINAO23ProblemsComefromPhysicsAndMathematicsOnly.Soi
recommendtohaveanelementaryknowledgeofJEEAlgebra,CoordinateGeometry,Basicsofcalculus(Onlydifferentiationandintegrationof
elementaryfunctions),Mechanics,Waves,ThermodynamicsAndmostimportantlyGRAVITATION.IfyouwanttoclearNSEAThengravitationisof
atmostimportance.YoushouldalsohaveagoodknowledgeofNumbertheory(findinglastdigits,remaindersetc)
ThatsalliknowfrommyexperiencePrakharBindal6months,1weekago

@PrakharBindalIamverythankfulforyoursincereadvice.PiyushKumarBehera3monthsago

@PrakharBindalYes,evenIhaveasimilarexperience.Plus,Iwasshockedtohavethemasknumbertheory:P
NiharMahajan6months,1weekago

@NiharMahajanIthoughtIcouldleavegravitationforbothNSEPandNSEA,andIrealizemymistakenow:(
SwapnilDas6months,1weekago

@PrakharBindalThankyousir.Iamreallythankfultoyouforyouradvice.SwapnilDas6months,1weekago

@SwapnilDasYoucancallMePrakharOnly:)andiamfeelinggoodifihavehelpedyouPrakharBindal6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingraHappyB'daybro!SwapnilDas6months,1weekago

@SwapnilDasThanks.RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingraHappyB'day!HarshShrivastava6months,1weekago

@HarshShrivastavaThanks.RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

Thismightbeuseful.AkshatSharda6months,1weekago

@MayankSinghSwapnilDas6months,1weekago

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@RohitGuptaRajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@AbiRajan@shuvamkeshari@AjeyaaKrishnanRajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingraithinkabhirajanandajeyaakrishnanhavealreadytoldenough.thereisnothingmoreformetoadd.butstilliwouldlike
toaddsomethingaboutthepsychologicalpartoftheseexams.sinceitisa1daygame,tohaveagoodefficiencyduringtheexamsisvery
essential.infactsometimesbeing'normal'duringexamsisquitedifficultandouradrenalinemayeveninterferewithourthoughts.atleastit
happenswithme,somyefficiencyandspeedisreducedtoonly5060%.:(
anyways,thefirststagesarenotquitedifficultandcaneasilybeclearedifastudentissincereanduptodate.
ihopeiwasofsomeuse!!ShuvamKeshari6months,1weekago

@ShuvamKeshariThankYouforvaluablecomment.IhopeyoucansharesomenamesofBooks,PDFs,resourcesoranything.Itwould
helpusalot.RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingrainwhichclassdoyoustudy?ShuvamKeshari6months,1weekago

@ShuvamKeshari9th.PleasegiveusnamesyouusedforNSEP.RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingrayouseemtobeabitexcessivelyconscious.welli.eirodovisamust,youcanusecengageaswell,andevenncert
additionalproblemsarequitegood.after3monthsfromnow,wecandiscussovermailalso,i'llbeabitmorefreethenafterjee.presentlyi'm
liketoast!!!!!!ShuvamKeshari6months,1weekago

@ShuvamKeshariWe'lltalkafteryourJEE.BestofLuck.RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingrathankyou,ihopeiwasofsomeservice.bye.
regards.ShuvamKeshari6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingraHello
HowmayIbeofassistance?AbiRajan6months,1weekago

@AbiRajanPleasetellushowtoprepareandfromwheretoqualifyNSEPandNSEAforthetimebeing.
RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@AbiRajanHelloSir,Thankyouforcommenting.Youdon'tneedtoassist,butneedtoadviceusaboutIPhOandIOAA.Canyourender
somesuggestions?SwapnilDas6months,1weekago

@SwapnilDasOkfirstofallI'mjustayearolderthanbothofyousoI'mnotmuchofaseniororanything.
NextyearwillbemyfirstandlastNSEP,sothoughtsonthatlater.
forNSEA:
Itdependsonwhichclassyouarein.Personally,Ifeelthat10thwouldbeabettertimeforNSEA.NSEAtestsonlybasicastronomywhichyou
mayalreadyknoworcaneasilylearnfromanywhere(evenWikipediaisgoodenoughforthis).Justknowsomestarsandconstellations,some
basicastronomicalterms,butimportantly,studyeclipses.Therearealwaysafewchallengingquestionsoneclipseswhichareeasyifyoulearn
theconceptsproperly.
Thephysicsandmathematicspartshouldn'tbemuchofachallenge.Themathematicsquestionsareusuallyjusteasyquestionsondivisibility,
sequences/series,binomialtheorem,trigidentities,etc.Thereareabunchofquestionsfromintegration/matriceseveryyearwhichyoucando
onyourcalculatorasalastresort(yes,therearenonprogrammablecalculatorswhichcandointegration).
Asforphysics,thisiswherebeingin10thinsteadof11thbecomesanadvantage.In10th,youwillhavefinishedstudyingMOSTOFthe
absolutebasicsoftheJEEandNSEAsyllabus(sometopicslikethermodynamics,modernphysics,oscillatorymotionarenotatallcoveredin
9th/10thwhileyoushouldbecomfortablewithtopicslikemechanicsandbasicsofwavemotion).It'simportanttoremembereverythingyou
learninelectromagnetismandoptics,becausealmosteveryquestioninNSEAfromthesetopicscanbesolvedquiteeasilyifyouare
verystronginyour10thsyllabusofthesetopics.In10th,youwon'tlearnthesetopicsrigorously(novectors,nocalculus,etc)but
whateveryoulearnissufficient.Onceyoucometo11th,youwillhavemoretroublewiththesetopics,becauseyouwillbelearningphysicswith
calculus,andsuddenlywhateveryoulearnedlastyearmaynotseemintuitive.You'llprobablyalsoforgetsomeofit.
In10th,youhaveagreatopportunityforNSEA.Justdoallthepreviousyearquestions,justtoseethestyleofthequestions.Mostofthemcan
besolvedwithinaminuteandahalf,andtheeasyoneswithin30seconds.Ifyou'relucky,mayberepeatedwordforword.
forNSEP:
I'llpostmythoughtsonthislaterbutyoushouldreallyasksomeonewhoismorequalifiedtoanswerthisinthemeantime.
AbiRajan6months,1weekago

@AbiRajanThankyou.Foryourvaluablethoughts.WhatwouldbecutoffforINAOjrthisyear?RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

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@RajdeepDhingraThat'squitehardtopredict.Inmyopinion,thisyear'sINAOpaperwasmoredifficultthanlastyear's(lastyearhadsome
trivialgravitationquestionsandeasyobservationalastronomy,withtheonlydifficultquestionbeingthelastone),butsomepeoplesay
otherwise.Ialsothinkthejuniorshavegottenalittlebetterthisyear.Iwouldn'texpectthecutofftochangemuchfromwhatitwaslastyear.I
guessitcouldbearound3644.However,I'moneofthefewpeoplewhosaythatthisyear'spaperwasharder,soifyouaskedsomeoneelse,
theywouldprobablytellyousomeotherrange.Itdefinitelywillnotgoover50though,andmostprobablybelow45.
AbiRajan6months,1weekago

@SwapnilDasIamcurrentlyinmy12th.Ifeelsolvingpapersfornsepnsecandnseawillhelpalot.Especiallyfornsec,solvepapersfrom
20052010asmostofthequestionsaretakenfromthosepapers.NsepandnseashouldbesmoothsailingifurthoroughwithbasicCBSE
stuffandtheirAPPLICATION...whichwegenerallyoverlook.someextratopicsaretobelearnt..examplepoisulles'equation(don'tmindthe
spelling).forINOuneedtobeabsolutelyconfidentinthejeeadvancedtopicsandincertainmiscellaneoustopicslikevariablemass.Forincho,
Solomonsandfryleisanexcellentreferencebook.AjeyaaKrishnan6months,1weekago

@AjeyaaKrishnanVariablemasssystemsareinthesyllabusofJEEMains,right?Ifso,they'dprobablybecoveredinwhatevercoaching
everyonegoesto...AbiRajan6months,1weekago

@AbiRajanWe'llbein10thnextyear.Youareinwhichclass?WhatwouldbeINJSOcutoff?RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@RajdeepDhingraI'min11thrightnow:D
Onceagain,Ican'tsayforsuremuchabouttheINJSOcutoff,butthisyear'spaperlookedeasiertomethanlastyear's.Lastyearhadalotof
applicationandwasmuchlessstraightforward,eventhoughthisyearhadsometopicsWAYoutofthesyllabus.Lastyear'scutoffwas39(:(),
andIexpectthisyear'scutofftorisetoabout4547.AbiRajan6months,1weekago

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@RajdeepDhingraIwouldn'tworryatall.Thelastfewcutoffs(39/90,40.5/100,42/100)haveallbeenveryclosetothe40%mark.Ithinkthe
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onlyINJSOtohaveacutoffabove60%wasthefirstonewhichwasridiculouslyeasy.Thisyear'spaperwasalittleeasierthanlastyear'sbutit
shouldprobablybeinthesamerange.AbiRajan6months,1weekago

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@AbiRajanThanks.RajdeepDhingra6months,1weekago

@JoshSilverman
Weneedyourhelp,Sir.Wearepreparingourselvesforphysicsolympiads.Canyousuggestbooksforthefollowing?:
ElectricityandMagnetism
Thermodynamics
ModernPhysics
Thankyou.SwapnilDas6months,1weekago

@SwapnilDasHelloeveryone,thisisRaghavYadav,likeallofyouguysIamalsopreparingfortheseolympiads,thebooksthatIamusing
tostudythesetopicsarepublishedbycengage,B.MSharma(author),andIfindthesebooks(cengagephysicsseries)veryusefulandwillhelp
youtooforsure!RaghavYadav6months,1weekago

@RaghavYadavThankyouverymuchbro,allthebest!SwapnilDas6monthsago

@SwapnilDasSametoya!RaghavYadav6monthsago

Physics:gostraightawaywithyourJEEprep.Solvesomepreviousyearspapers
Mathematics:practicefromArihant'sbooksonRMOMayankSingh6months,1weekago

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