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Theeternalsvarupa(siddhadeha)isnot
inherentinthejiva
NOVEMBER3,2016NOVEMBER3,2016 / TARUNGOVINDADAS
Firstofall,thetitleisquitemisleadingandalmostwrongish.
ThejivaisaneternalenergyofKrishnaandwithinthisenergy,anotherenergycantbe
inherent.
Tatasthadoesnotchangeintosvarupasakti.Butevenbeforegeingthesiddhadeha,the
tatasthabecomesimbuedbysvarupasakti.Thatiscalledgeingsthayibhava.Thesiddhadeha
isnotaphysicalbodyaswehaveexperienceof.Itisabhavabody.
IamsureyouhavecomeacrossastatementsomewherethatsaysthatSrimatiRadhikais
Mahabhavasvarupa.Sothetatasthawhoisimbuedwithsvarupasakti,likeanironrodmade
redhotbypuingitinre,isnowlinkedtoabodyconsistingofsvarupasakti.Thereisoneness
becausethesthayibhavadoesnotmakethetatasthafeelthatheishavingsomethingexteriorin
him.
(SrilaSatyanarayanadasBabaji)
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Whyistheeternalsvarupaofthejivanotinherentinthejiva?

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Whyistheeternalsvarupaofthejivanotinherentinthejiva?
1)
ThejivaisaneternalenergyoftheLord,calledtatasthasakti.
ItistheenergyinbetweentheLordsexternalenergy(mayasakti)andHisinternalenergy
(svarupasakti).
Eternalmeanseternal.
krishneranityadasakrishneratatasthasaktibhedabhedaprakasa
(CaitanyaCaritamritaMadhyalila,20.108)
ThejivaisthemarginalpotencyofKrishnaandamanifestationsimultaneouslyonewithanddierent
fromtheLord.
2)
Theeternalsvarupaofthejiva,thesiddhadeha,isofthesvarupasakti,theinternalenergy
oftheLord.
vaikunthasyabhagavatojyotiramsabhuta
vaikunthalokasobharupayaanantamurtayas
tatravartantetasamekayasahamuktasyaikasyamurtirbhagavatakriyataiti
vaikuntasyamurtirivamurtiryeshamityuktam
(PritiSandarbha10)
Inthespiritualworld,theSupremeLordhasunlimitedspiritualforms.Theyallareexpansionsof
Himselfilluminatingthatworld.Witheachoneofthoseforms,theLordenjoyspastimeswithasingle
individualliberatedsoul.
vasantiyatrapurush
sarvevaikunthamrtayah
yenimianimiena
dharmenrdhayanharim
(SB3.15.14)
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InthatplaceallmenresidewithformsliketheLordandtheyworshiptheLordwithunmotivated

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InthatplaceallmenresidewithformsliketheLordandtheyworshiptheLordwithunmotivated
service.TheyhaveformsliketheLord.Theyhavenopersonalmotives(animia)impellingthem
(nimiena)toworship.rdhayanmeansthattheyworshippedsinceancienttimes.
tvabhaktiyogaparibhvitahrtsaroja
sseruteksitapathonanunthapusm
yadyaddhiytaurugyavibhvayanti
tattadvapuhpranayasesadanugrahya
(SB3.9.11)
OLord!You,Whoareapproachedbybeingheardabout,seenanddirectlyserved,
enterandremaininthelotusofyourdevoteesheartsinfusedwithbhaktiyoga.
MuchpraisedLord!Byyourmercy,youbestowtothemspiritualbodiesappropriatetothemoodthey
cultivateduringsdhana.
3)
Bhaktiisnotinherentinthejivasakti.
Bhakticomesfrombhakti.
Bhaktiisgivenbysomeonewhohasbhakti.
brahmndabhramitekonabhgyavnjva;
gurukrsnaprasdepyabhaktilatabja
mlihoiykareseibjaropana;
ravanakrtanajalekoroyesecana
Whenalivingentitywhilewanderingthroughouttheuniverseindierentspecies,aainsgoodfortune
bythecauselessmercyofguruandKrsna,thenonlyhecangettheseedofthewishfulllingbhakti
creeper.HebecomesagardenerwhoreceivedtheseedandwatersitbyhearingandchantingofKrsna.
(Caitanyacaritmrta,Madhya19.15151)
4)
Bhaktimanifestsitselfintheheartofthejiva,whichwasbeingcleanedbysadhana
bhakti.Itisnotalreadythere,waitingtobeawakened.

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krtisdhybhavetsdhyabhvssdhanbhidh|

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krtisdhybhavetsdhyabhvssdhanbhidh|
nityasiddhasyabhvasyaprkatyahrdisdhyat||
BRS1.2.2
Devotionwhichisenactedthroughthesensesandwhichleads
totheselfmanifestationofbhvabhakti,iscalledsdhanabhakti.
Theselfmanifestationwithintheheart[ofthepractitioner]oftheeternallyexistingtranscendentalaect
ofdevotion(bhva)isknownasthecompletionstageofdevotion.
(BhaktiRasamritaSindhu1.2.2)
SrilaJivaGosvamisDurgamasangamanicommentary:
bhvasyasdhyatvekrtrimatvtparamapurusrthatvbhvahsydityakynityeti|
bhagavacchaktiviesavriviesatvengresdhayisyamnatvditibhvah
Adoubtmayarisethatsincethisstateisachieved[sadhya],implyingthatitisarticiallyproduced,itis
nottheultimategoal.Thesecondlinerespondstothisdoubtbysayingthatisiseternal,andsimply
appearswithintheheart.Thatisbecauseitsappearance[andnotitscreation]willbeaccomplishedinthe
futurebythespecialactionsofthemostexcellenttransformations[samvitandhladiniaspects]of
Bhagavanssvarupasakti[whichareperfectandeternal].
5)
ThemetaphorofthebhaktilatabijaisawonderfulmetaphorbySrimanMahaprabhuto
demonstratehowourbhaktigrowsfromaninitialseedtoafullblownower.
Nevertheless,itstillisametaphor,albeitaverygenuineone.SriGurudevadoesnotgivethe
discipleatranscendentalseedtoswallow.Thisbrilliantmetaphorstandsforatransmissionof
spiritualenergyfromtheheartoftheonewhohasittotheonewhodesiresit.
Wateringthatseedwithravanaandkrtanamakesthebhakticreepersproutintheeldofthedevotees
senses.FavourableservicetotheLordistherootofthatcreeper.Theverylifeforceofbhaktiistogive
pleasuretorKrsna.
(SrilaAnantadasBabajiMaharaj)
6)
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Thebhaktilatabijadoesnotcontainthesiddhadehainitsseedform.

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Thebhaktilatabijadoesnotcontainthesiddhadehainitsseedform.
Thesiddhadehaiseternalandisnotpackedasaseedinthebhaktilatabija.
Thejivaisnotpregnantwiththeseedofthesiddhadeha.
7)
Premaisnotalreadythereinthejiva,sleeping,onlywaitingtobeawakened.
nityasiddhakrsnapremasdhyakabhunaya
ravandiuddhaciekarayeudaya
(CaitanyaCaritamrtaMadhya22.107)
Krsnapremaiseternallyperfect(nityasiddhakrsnaprema)anditcannotbegeneratedbyanything
(sdhyakabhunaya).Itariseswithintheheartthathasbecomepuriedbypracticessuchashearing,etc
(ravandiuddhaciekarayeudaya).
Premadescendsintothesuitableheartofthejiva.ThejivahasthepotentialitytoRECEIVEthis
mostwonderfulPREMAastheculminationofbhakti.
MukundadasaGosvamisays:nityasiddhabhaktesuuddhasavaviesarupataysad
vartamnasytrasvayasphurannnakrtrimatvaak)Thepuresavawhichiseverpresentinthe
nityasiddhadevoteesmanifestsitself[intheheartofthepractitionerdevotee]andthusshouldnotbeseen
asarticial.
8)
ThejivaisnotsatcitanandalikeSriKrishna.
Incaseofthejiva:
sat=>eternal
cit=>cognitivelyaware(ofhisowneld[body])
ananda=>freefromsuering

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InParamatmaSandarbha(28),SriJivaGosvamiexplicitlysaysthattheselfisdevoidof

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InParamatmaSandarbha(28),SriJivaGosvamiexplicitlysaysthattheselfisdevoidof
knowledge,althoughconsciousbynature,anditlacksblissalthoughfreeofanymaterial
misery.Inotherwords,ithasthepotential(svarupayogyata)togetknowledgeandblissbutnot
yetthefunctionality(phalopadhayiyogyata).
(checkParamatmaSandarbhaandTavaSandarbhaformorereferences)
Thejivaislikeadropoftheocean.Krishnaistheocean.Thedropcanhavenowaves.Youcant
surfonadrop.Krishnasformofsatcitanandaisdierent.
9)
Jiverasvarupahayadoesntmeanthatthesvarupaisinherentinthejiva.
jiverasvarupahaya
krishneranityadasakrishneratatasthasaktibhedabhedaprakasa
(CaitanyaCaritamrita,Madhyalila,20.108)
ThejivasessentialnatureistobeaneternalservantofSriKrishna.Thejivaisthemarginalpotencyof
KrishnaandamanifestationsimultaneouslyonewithanddierentfromtheLord.
Svarupaheremeansessentialnature.ItisouressentialnaturetobeaservantoftheLord.
Natureisnotthesameaseternalspiritualform.NaturehereisONE,ourformscanbeMANY.
FromAnuccheda19untiltheendofAnuccheda47ofhisParamatmaSandarbha,SrilaJiva
Gosvamipadadescribesthesvarupaofthejiva,providessastrapramanaforthequalitiesofthe
jivassvarupaandrefutesAdvaita(mayavada)conceptsofthejiva.Thereisnotoneinstancein
thiswholediscussiononthesvarupaofthejivawhereheadmitsanytypeofsvarupabheda
(dierencesinthesvarupaofjivas).
10)
Krishnahasnotputataste/aractionalreadyinaprexedwayintotheheartofthe
jivas.
TheseedofRATIissownbysadhusanga.THISISWHATBrihadBhagavatamritam2.4.190is
allabout:
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vicitrallvibhavasyatasyasamudrakotgahanayasyavicitratattadrucidnallvibhutim

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vicitrallvibhavasyatasyasamudrakotgahanayasyavicitratattadrucidnallvibhutim
uarkayitumprabhuhkah
anvayaandwordforwordmeaning:
kah=who?,prabhuh=iscapable,uarkayitum=toconjecture,tasya=His,tattadrucidnall
vibhutim=theopulenceofpastimeofgivingvarioustastes,vicitrallvibhavasya=onewho
hasthemajestyofperformingvariedlilas,samudrakotgahanayasya=whoseheartisdeep
likemillionsofoceans
Translation:WhoiscapableofconjecturingHisopulenceofthepastimeofgivingvarioustastes?Hehas
themajestyofperformingvariedlilasandHisheartisdeeplikemillionsofoceans.
Tika:
Adoubtisraised:Hrsikeaistheprompterofthepotenciesofcognitionandactionofevery
one.ThenwhydoesHenotgivethebestprocessofworshipequallytoeveryone?Inresponseto
thisdoubtNradaSpeaksthepresentverse(2.4.190).[Thecommentatorexplainsthecompound
wordvicitrataadrucidnallvibhutim.][He]distributes(dnam)tothem[thevarious
peoplewhotaketodierenttypesofworship]thevarioustypesof(vicitrnm)specicbhvas
(rucinm)orrelish.Ifthereadingistna,insteadofdnainthecompoundword,thenthe
meaningisthatHeexpands[insteadofHedistributes].ThisindeedisHisPlay(ll).Who(kah)
iscapable(prabhuh)ofconjecturingorascertainingproperly(uarkayitum)thegrandeur
(vibhutim)ofHisll.Indeed,thereisnoone.Thereasonbehindthisincapabilityisgiveninthe
adjectivesamudrakotgahanayasyaoneWhoseintention(aya)isdeeperormore
mysterious(gahana)thanmillions(koti)ofoceans(samudra).Thereasonbehindexpanding[or
distributing]varioustypesofrelishisgivenintheadjectivevicitrallvibhavasyaoneWho
hasvarioustypesofmajesties(vibhava)ofHismyriad(vicitra)lls.OtherwiseHewillnot
accomplishthesweetnessofthemajestyofHisvariousllsThisisthesense.
(SatyanarayanadasBabaji)
Now,howdoesSriKrishnadistributes/gives/bestows(DANA)thevarioustastestothevarious
peoplewhotaketodierenttypesofworship?
HedoesthisviathegatewayofthemercyofHisdevotees.
SrilaJivaGoswami:
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Devoteeassociationactsastheseedofrati.Throughassociationwithvarioustypesof
devotees,varioustypesofsadhanawhicharelikewateringtheseedwillbeperformed.
NowheredoesSrilaJivaORSrilaRupaGoswamiwritethatsadhusangabringsouttheinherent
ratiofthejiva.Nowhere.
11)
EveryindividualsoulisqualiedtobecomeRdhiksmaidservant;thisisthegreat,raregift
ofrmanMahprabhu.
Accordingtotheeverythingisinherentandprexedvada,onlyafewarethenabletoreceive
thishighestgiftofunnatojjvarasamsvabhaktisriyam,namelythosewhowouldhaveaseed
ofmadhuryarasaalreadyintheirjivasvarupa.
Now,whereistheMERCYinthat?????
WasMahaprabhuanelitist?
No.HedistributedthisunnatojjvalarasasvabhaktisriyamFREELY.
ataevagopbhvakariagkra
rtridinacinterdhkrsneravihra
Thereforeoneshouldacceptthemoodofthegopsintheirservice.Insuchatranscendentalmood,one
shouldalwaysthinkofthepastimesofrRdhandKrsna.
So,bythemercyofSrimanMahaprabhu,everyjivaiseligibletoreceivethismostwonderful
gift,notonlyafewchosen,prexedoneseveryjivahasnowthepossibilitybythismercyto
becomeamaidservantofSrimatiRadhika.
Ifwecanacceptthisgiftornotisadierentmaer.
12)
Ifthesvarupaofthejivawouldbeinherent,thatwouldalsomeanthatRAGABHAKTI
wouldbeinherent.
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REFUTATION:

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REFUTATION:
krsnatadbhaktakarunyamatralabhaikahetuka\
pustimargatayakaiscidiyamraganugocyate
(BRS1.2.309)
ThemercyofKrsnaandHisdevoteesistheonlycauseofaainingraganugabhakti.Somecallthistype
ofdevotionpustimarga.
13)
Ifthesvarupawouldbeinherent,thenGREEDforraganugabhaktiwouldbeinherent.
Refutation:
Therearetwocausesfortheappearanceoftheaforementionedsacredgreed:Themercyof
Godorthemercyofanotheranurgdevotee.Thereareagaintwokindsofmercybestowedby
adevotee:prktanaanddhunika.prktanameansmercybestowedbyargnugbhaktaina
previouslife,anddhunikaismercybestowedinthepresentbirth.Theprktanadevoteetakes
shelterofthelotusfeetofargnugguruafterthesacredgreedhasariseninhim,the
dhunikawillgetthatsacredgreedonlyafterhavingsurrenderedtothefeetofsuchaguru.Itis
said(inBhaktiRasmrtaSindhu):Theonlycausesoftheappearanceofsacredgreedisthe
mercyofKrsnaorHisdevotee.Thereforesomecallthepathofrgnugbhaktialsopusti
mrga(thepathofgrace).
(SrilaVishvanathaCakravartipada,RVC)
14)
HolyassociationistheseedofloveandaectionforKrishna.
BRS2.5.13:
Whenadevoteesrati,likeaclearcrystal,becomessimilarinformtothatofthedevoteetowhomheis
aached,itiscalledsvaccharati.
JivaGosvamisCommentary:

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Thisverseshowshowdevoteeassociationactsastheseedofrati.Throughassociationwithvarioustypesof
devotees,varioustypesofsadhanawhicharelikewateringtheseedwillbeperformed.
bhavpavargobhramatoyadbhavej
janasyatarhyacyutasatsamgamah
satsagamoyarhitadaivasadgatau
parvareetvayijyatematih
(SB10.51.53)
Whenthemateriallifeofawanderingsoulhasceased,OAcyuta,hemayaaintheassociationofYour
devotees.Andwhenheassociateswiththem,thendevotionuntoYouwillstart,YouWhoarethegoalof
thedevoteesandtheLordofallcausesandtheireects.
So,theseedofRATIissownbysadhusanga.
vaiistyaptravaiistydratiresopagacchati|
yathrkahpratibimbtmsphatikdisuvastusu||7||
BRS2.5.7
Specicratiappearsperthespecicimpressionsfrompreviousexperiencesintheindividual[jiva],just
asthesunreectsitselfonthingslikecrystal.

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