A CHALLANGE TO ENGINEER "ALI:

MIRZA: OF CITY OF JHELUM

Engineer "Ali: Mirza: tries to exclude Saiyiduna: Mu"a:viah RD:
from a Number of 'Aya:t and Texts of Tradition by making an
argument that these 'Ata:t and 'Ah:dith: were were spoken by
Deity and His Prophet [Peace Be Upon Him] Prior to the period
when Saiyiduna: Mu"a:viah RD: embraced 'Isla:m. So these Texts of
Qur'a:n and 'Ah:adith: excludes him.
Any one who tries to present these Proof Texts WHICH ARE FOR the
Virtues of S:ah:a:bah [RD:] for Sayiduna: Mu"a:viah RD: ,
Apostate Engineer from Jhelum tries to respond him/her with this
argument , which may be restated and resentences as follow:
" As the TexTS OF 'A:tat were Spoken or Descended [By 'ALL-H THE
ONLY DEITY]prior to the Period Saiyiduna: Mu"a:viah Accepted
'Isla:m they only include all S:ah:bah RD: WHO HAD ACCEPTED
'Isla:m Prior to the time these 'AYA:T WERE SPOKEN [TO HPLY
PROPHET PBUH] OR DESCENDED [UPON HOLY PROPHET (PBUH)] BY 'ALL-H
[SUBH:AN-NU: VA TA"A:LA:]
If this Enginner Of City Of Jhelum is correct then what is his
response if some one argues follow :=
1]The 'A:yah which saith that:=

Surah 15. Al-Hijr, Ayah 9

Transliteration:=
'Inna Nah:nu nazzalna: 'aldh:dh:ikra va inna lahu: lah:a:fiz:u:na
Translation:
Verily We Do Make Dh:icr/Dh:ikr To Descend upon Him ; and Verily
We are Its Conserver [Savier/Protecter].
Explanation:=
" 'ALL-H MADE QUR'A:N [DH:IKR/DH:ICR]TO DESCENT [NAZZALNA:] ON
HOLY PROPHET AND 'ALL-H IS ITS CONSERVER"
Using Engineer's trick one can say that this 'A:yah is speaking
for those 'Aya:t of Holy Qur'a:n which had been revield upon Holy
Prophet Prior to the Revelation of This very 'A:yah "Surah 15:
Ayah 9, written above.
This is a Divine Punishment to "Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum that his
own Engineered System generates doubts of coruption and
mutilation in the Texts of a Number of 'Aya:t of Holy Qur'a:n.

2] If is is so strict to exclude Saiyiduna: Mu"a:viah RD: from

such Verses and Traditions then he must have to accept that the
tradition "MAN CUNTU MAULA:...." which he claims th be Mutvatir
is ABSOLUTELY SILENT ON all those who of Whom Holy Prophet was
Maula: at the present since Cuntu/Kuntu is a word of past. It is
used for far past and not for near past. If it is considered as
Past then it is indefinite and it cannot suggest whether it is
near past or far past. In any case in excludes all those of whom
Holy Prophet became Maula: ofter this past tense.
What is the point.
The point is that there are several persons of Whom Holy Prophet
was Maula: yet Saiyiduna "Ali
was Not Maula: of them.
If a Past Tense in the Text of a Verse of Holy Qur'an or in the Text of
a Tradition of H:adith: can Exclude Saiyiduna: Mu"a:viah RD: then
Some more things or persons can be excluded from Past Tenses of
TEXTS of Verses of Qur'a:n or Texts of 'Ah:dith: or both, and "Ali
Mirza: is likely to reject this consequence and corollary of his own
Fundamental Theorm that Parst Tense Excludes a number of Persons
or Things that are not included in word of Past Tense by PARITY OF
REASONING. By Parity Of Reasoning Holy Prophet Can be the Maula
of a Number of Persons and Saiyiduna: "Ali: connot be their Maula, a
result that can annoy Engineer "Ali: Mirza Since his own Engineered
Technique is destroys his system of argument.
Similarly by parity of reasoning "Ali Mirza: is compelled to exclude
some 'A:ya:t from Ayah :9,Surah 15. Al-Hijr.
Is this his system or he is going to state some principles engineered
by him?
It is a fallacy that when a system goes against Saiyiduna: Mu"a:viah
RD: "Ali: Mirza accepts it and when it goes to Saiyiduna: "Ali: RD: ,
The Engineer rejects it.
It appears that he is making grounds for his Rafd: and it may also be
the case that he is indirectly trying to Attack the belief the
Conservation of Holy Qur'a:n from Corruption and Mutilation etc.
Every thing is possible for Engineer "Ali Mirza: , since he his a
perpetual mutant and ever changing person.
THE SYSTEM OF "ALI MIRZA DOES FIRE BACK UPON HIM. HE CANNOT
DEFENT HIS SYSTEM. IF HE WANTS TO MAKE HIS SYSTEM CONSISTENT HE
MUST HAVE A SINGLE STANDARD AND NOT MULTIPLE STANDARD .
THIS IS THE DIVINE PUNISHNENT ,DIVINE AVENGE AND DIVINE
REFUTATION OF THIS HERETIC FOR HIS RAFD: AND EMINITY AGAINST
SAIYIDUNA MU"AVIAH RD:. ENGINEER "ALI: MIRZA: CANNOT DEFEND HIS
DUEL STANDARD 'INSHA:'ALL-H. THAT IS A CHALLANGE 'AL
H:AMDULILLAH.
TO THE FOLLOWERS OF "ALI: MIRZA:
FOR THE SAKE OF 'ALL-H,QUR'A:N ,'ISLA:M,S:HA:BAH,'AH:ADI:TH: DO
NOT LISTEN TO THE APOSTATE LECTURES OF THIS HERETIC UNLESS AND
OTHERWISE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE TO DETECT HIS
FALLACIES,FLAWS,INCONSISTENCIES AND HERESY IN HIS APOSTATE SYSTEM
OF ARGUMENTS.

THERE MAY BE SOME ERRORS OF TYPING ,SPELLINGS, GRAMMAR, AND IT IS ALSO

POSSIBLE THAT SOME SETENCES DUE TO ERROR MAY YEILD SOME INCORRECT
MEANING. IN SUCH CASE ONE MUST KNOW THAT WE ARE 'AHLUSSUNNAH AND WE
CANNOT TAKE ANY NON SUNNI MEANING. SO IF SUCH AN ERROR HAS OCCUR IT IS
PURELY A COINCIDENCE AND CANNOT BE ASCRIBED TO THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE
IN THE LEAST MEANING.

YOU ARE INFORMED.