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AdityaPathak,ThermalEngineer
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Thetwomaindifferencesare:

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i.InCarnotcycle,thepressureoftheworkingfluidisraisedfromthecondenserpressure
totheboilerpressurethroughwetcompression,whereasinRankinecyclesaturated
liquidispumpedtotheboilerwithapump.Firstly,wetcompressionisdifficultto
achieveinrealpractice,andalsoacompressorwouldrequiremuchmoreworkthana
pump.
ii.TheheatadditionprocessisisothermalincaseofaCarnotcycle,whereasitis
isobaricinaRankinecycle.Isothermalheatadditionwouldbeverydifficulttoachieve
duringthesuperheatingprocesses,andiftheexpansionprocessstartsatthesaturated
vapourlineitself,thenthere'llbeturbineerosionproblemattheendstagesofexpansion.
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DhruvParthasarathy,Collegegrad,Majorinmechanicalengineering
WrittenMar28

ThecarnotcycleandtheRankieneusewater,steammixtureastheworkingfluid.
Inidealcases,theCarnotcycleoffersthehighesteffeciencybut,inreallifeconditions,the
RankienecyclehaslotsofadvantagesovertheCarnotcycle.

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TvsSdiagramforRankeineandcarnotcycle
OntheleftwehavetheRankienecycleandtheCarnotcycleontheleft.
ThisTvsSdiagramshowsatagicenpressure,thetempraturevarieswithentropy,thesky
blueregionisthesubcooledregion,
thelightturquoiseregionrepresentssuperheatedregionandthepinkregiondenoteswate
+steammixture.
Therankienecycleisgenerallyusedtostudyturbinesandcompressors.
Whenweobservethecurveinthecarnotcyclegraph,weseethatalmostalltheprocesses
takeplaceinsidethevapourdome.
Nowthispossesseriousissueswhendoneinrealtimeoperations,
Letsnametheprocesses
expansionprocessas1
pumpingas3
heatiadditionas4
process2representedbythelineatthebottom.(condensation)
Sowhataretheproblemsfacediftheturbineworksundercarnotcycle?
Followingprocess1,theexpandedgashasalotofmoisturecontent(itiswellinsidethe
vapourdom)asitsdryessfractionhasaverylowvalue.
thisleadstoasevereissueofcorrosionintheturbineblades.
Sothisdisadvantageisovercomeinarankeincycle,wherethesteamisexpandedfrom
thesaturatedstaatetoastateofrelativelyhigherdrynessfactor,hencethisreducesthe
problemofbladecorrosiontoagreatextent.
Process2(condensation)
inCarnotcycle,theexpandedsteamvapourmixturestillliesinsidethevapourdome,
thispoosesagreaychallengeinreallifesituations,wherethecondensedstateofwater
containsamixtureofwaterandsteam.
Thisproblemincounteredintherankeincycle,wherethewateriscondenseduptothe
saturatedstate.Thusisiseasiertobepumpedintoinasinglesturatedliquidstaterather
thanabinarymixtureofwaterandvapour.
Process3
InCarnotcycle,thewaterispumpeduptotheboilingtemprature.Thisrequireshigh
energy,butintherankeincycle,theprocessismuchmoreeffectiveasthewateris
pumpeduptoboilingptessureandheatedintheboileruptothespecifiedtemprature.
Similarlyinprocess4,theexpansionprocess,takesplacegivingtheworkingprocess..Thus
thesearedifferencesbetweentheCarnotandtheRankienecycle.
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SANKALPARPIT,ResearchScholarIITKgp
WrittenApr14

Well,simplewaytounderstand,carnotisaideal,butrankineisexclusivelyusedfor
steampowerplant.Butifwewanttoanalyzethesituation,andwesuperimposeboth
graphononeanother,particularlyTSdiagram,wewouldfind:
1.Pumpworkrequiredisveryhighincaseofcarnotcyclewhichisnotpossible,because
wehavetoextractworksoturbineworkhastogreaterthanpumpwork.
2.Sinceincaseofboiler,wehavetoincreasethepressure,itcanbedoneonlyby
increasingtemperature,butincarnotitisshowingatconstanttemperaturewhichis
notpossible.
Thesearebasicallytwobasicdifference,whichihavewritten.Ifyoufindanydifficulty,or
anythingwrong,Kindlymessageme.
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IFYOUCLOSELYOBSERVETHEMEANTEMPRATURELINEATWHICHTHEHEAT
ISADDEDTOTHESYSTEM,
1:INCARNOTCYCLE,ITISAHORIZONTALSTRAIGHTLINEPARALLELTOXAXIS
(ONATCSPLOT)
2:INRANKINECYCLETHEMEANTEMPERATURELINEISACOMBINATION(AVG)
OFTHEBOILINGREGIONFROMSUBCOOLEDTOSUPERHEATEDSTEAM,THUSIT
ISLOWERASCOMPAREDTOCARNOTCYCLE
ANDITISIMPOSSIBLETOACHIEVESUCHAHIGHTEMPERATUREOFHEAT
ADDITION,INCARNOTCYCLE
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