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REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
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BEFORE THE HONORABLE G. MURRAY SNOW
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10 of Arizona. 09:02:40
25 Segura and Cecillia Wang, also on the line for plaintiffs. 09:03:17
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14 status hearing?
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5 reports. 09:04:57
10 forward. 09:05:17
14 status conference and how we were moving forward with the ASU
15 report. 09:05:31
4 those issues.
19 would work and -- how I thought it would work, how the monitors
20 envisioned it moving forward. Mr. Segura was on the line and 09:07:19
7 with the monitors on the drafts that were provided the previous
10 agreed that was going to happen was the monitors were going to 09:08:13
14 well, it's not going to be this week but I think early next
15 week, because the monitors are coming out here on December 1st 09:08:32
16 and 2nd at the end of next week to meet with us again on these
25 it for the first ASU report, and then we're going to run the 09:09:10
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3 group for both years, and then we can evaluate whether certain
6 example, if a deputy makes one stop and that one stop happens
10 So we're trying to figure out the best way to maybe weed out 09:09:50
15 number 2. 09:10:07
24 Mr. Segura.
9 proceeding.
15 we're going to engage in this process and see if we can help 09:11:39
21 Mr. Masterson and Mr. Segura and others, and we are still
23 process. And we have the same concerns that Mr. Segura did but
25 able to move forward, that the MCSO should be able to move 09:12:19
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9 participate or not?
13 Mr. Masterson.
15 the parties have been extended -- that all parties have been 09:12:56
20 will, and which are not; and once you've arrived at that 09:13:16
23 make sure that they come in compliance with the decree and
5 because we really don't know at this point whether any of the 09:13:50
20 All right. That sounds -- sounds like the parties are 09:14:13
23 in the long run, and I'll be happy to resolve any matters that
2 order that the MCSO has already missed, and as I recall, last
6 program.
8 maybe I ought to check with the monitor on this last issue, the
9 ASU issue as well -- but I checked with the monitor, and the
10 monitor was also trying to work with the parties and see if 09:15:11
14 want to check with you, Chief Warshaw, and see if you have any
15 concerns about the ASU studies that you think need to be raised 09:15:28
20 site next week along with Commander Girvin, at which time, 09:15:49
15 more than several weeks ago, there was a telephone call that 09:17:07
3 that target date would approach, that MCSO would approach the
12 logic and also the approach of the monitor with regard to EIS.
4 this.
7 Monitor Team; and as things are developed and go, I think that
10 it, the target dates that are established here right now are 09:20:08
23 board, if necessary.
25 moving parts to this process. What we have right now are 09:21:01
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8 factors that will go into it. So that's just the first step.
11 order.
15 something that needs to not only be with the -- you know, 09:21:58
16 include steps from the EIS side, but also from the IT side of
20 if I'm wrong -- suggested that there are plans of this nature 09:22:19
21 within MCSO, but I don't think that we've seen those. So what
25 are, who's responsible for which piece, and I think that 09:22:39
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7 monitor.
9 the next step and the next question is going to be: Can we see
15 discussed it with MCSO, but -- so I don't know, Your Honor, but 09:23:34
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4 believe should consider, you know, the various steps that are
7 would include all of the steps that MCSO can envision are
14 Chief Warshaw?
19 20th just a few weeks ago was some target dates for some
21 us, they were discussed openly and agreed upon openly, and we
15 THE COURT: Let me ask along that line, and I guess I 09:27:19
19 now and where we need to be, and having target dates for steps
4 with you and with the parties. When you say "aspirational," I
10 that are unexpected and foul up the process, and, in fact, I 09:28:41
2 can bring it before me, but if it is the case that there's just
22 date which MCSO could seek relief from, or any party, if things
6 good faith and those things come up, those will be recognized
14 excellent approach.
20 knowledge? 09:32:00
25 Girvin. I do not believe that we've seen that plan as of yet. 09:32:11
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2 consider sharing that plan, Mr. Popolizio, with the monitor and
3 the parties. The monitor can then review the steps; see if
10 at least give him time to realize what he's looking at and be 09:32:44
11 heard.
15 Andre Segura -- just to clarify about the response to the ASU 09:33:02
24 last time.
5 because during the site visit, our last site visit, my 09:33:55
14 because I'm sure they've dealt with this issue across the
17 up with a plan here, but I will tell you right now I'm -- I'm
23 assistance?
25 from the report. I think what you're possibly dealing with 09:35:07
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1 here, or you could infer from the report, is that there may be
5 and will continue to go through it, and it's referenced in many 09:35:35
9 implicit bias is, I'm not sure exactly what you do as far as
11 exists.
19 work with Mr. Masterson and with the rest of the MCSO to try to
25 buy-in from the employees. And so, you know, it does require a 09:36:45
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4 do think that the most effective ways are through the creation
15 I would say, though, that the report was very, very 09:37:47
5 done with the -- on the triage, the more immediate issue of the 09:38:44
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13 to raise?
20 you want an extra two days, because I won't get to it, to 09:39:34
21 reply, you can have them. If you don't want them, you don't
25 you very much. That's very kind of you. We've been planning 09:39:52
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1 and are on track to meet the deadline that you set, but in case
6 Thanksgiving.
13 one?
23 have a target date to set the target dates by. I wouldn't want
1 think we have, but having a date for, for example, when we can
4 the monitor, because I've found that he's been very responsive.
5 How long do you think it will take, once you get 09:41:23
8 reproduce those steps and get a schedule and review it with the
9 parties, Chief?
19 would be the 1st. The 1st is a Monday, and then does he take
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2 you time to brief the new sheriff on all of this, how long --
4 You can try and get on his schedule now, even though
5 he's not yet the sheriff, and I suppose you can brief him on 09:42:38
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9 authorize it.
11 for four hours with the incoming sheriff, and we're meeting
12 again with the incoming sheriff this coming Monday for a couple
15 briefing process right now, Judge, and we're going to try to 09:43:02
10 that brings all of the parties into town, and the entire 09:44:01
15 weeks, so what if we were to set the schedule, say, for the 09:44:12
20 THE COURT: Okay. And then that won't pose you a 09:44:24
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23 THE COURT: And does that work for you, Ms. Johnson?
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