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<tr><td>hello majba,<br />
<br />
synthesized hopping :<br />
<br />
all TRX except BCCH TRX will hop over a list of frequencies (= frequency hopping
sequence). You can put as many frequencies as you want in the list (up to more
than 30 usually).<br />
Only the BCCH TRX requires a fixed frequency (bcch frequency that shouldn't be i
ncluded in the FHS !).<br />
<br />
baseband hopping :<br />
<br />
All TRX can hop, but the list of frequencies is limited to the number of TRX in
the cell. For instance, if you have 4 TRX, the amount of frequencies will be 4.
Then, like a round robin mechanism, each TRX will use, for each TDMA frame, one
of those four frequencies.<br />
<br />
Only the 1st timeslot of the BCCH TRX cannot hop.<br />
<br />
Each other timeslot can hop.<br />
<br />
Everytime a timeslot uses the BCCH frequency, it cannot use dowlink power contro
l.<br />
<br />
Hope it helps,<br />
Pix<A NAME="15525"></A></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cells
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ass="sectioncell"><H2>majba<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 24th May 2007 &nbsp;(1
0:25 GMT)</FONT></H2></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D
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r><tr><td>hello all,i am a beginer in GSM technology.can any please describe me
the difference between Synthesized hopping and baseband hopping.<A NAME="15440">
</A></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="1
00%"><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_white.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr><t
r><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/images/dot_clea
r.gif" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="sectioncell"><
H2>hashem<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 20th May 2007 &nbsp;(07:10 GMT)</FONT></
H2></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/
images/dot_clear.gif" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td><img src="/images/d
ot_white.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>lotfi <b
r />
i am agree with you <br />
as i know about HSN AND HOPPING becase we have 2 channel group ,<br />
channel group one which assign for BCCH carrier and hopping is off <br />
and channel group two which assign fro TCH channel and hopping is on for that<A
NAME="15363"></A></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing
="0" width="100%"><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_white.gif" width="1" height="10"
></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/im
ages/dot_clear.gif" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="s
ectioncell"><H2>rajat<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 16th May 2007 &nbsp;(08:34 G
MT)</FONT></H2></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"
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<td>yes it is same for all timeslots of that particular trx.<A NAME="15350"></A>
</td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_white.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr><tr><t
d width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/images/dot_clear.gi
f" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="sectioncell"><H2>J
avid<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 15th May 2007 &nbsp;(16:51 GMT)</FONT></H2></
td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/image
s/dot_clear.gif" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_wh
ite.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>Hi all .. I g
ot a lil confusion on maio, can anyone please tell me when one trx has same MAIO
then is it same for all 8 time slots of one trx.<A NAME="14730"></A></td></tr><
tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td><i
mg src="/images/dot_white.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr><tr><td width="10
0%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/images/dot_clear.gif" width="1
" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="sectioncell"><H2>Pix<font fac
e='Arial' size='1'> - 2nd April 2007 &nbsp;(18:55 GMT)</FONT></H2></td></tr><tr>
<td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/images/dot_clear.
gif" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_white.gif" wid
th="1" height="10"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>MAIO is applied to same t
imeslot of different TRX (belonging to a same cell). For instance, each timeslot
#3 will have a different MAIO, because they're using the same HSN.<br />
<br />
If all timeslot #3 have the same HSN (=sequence), they need to start their seque
nce at different frequencies, so they don't run the same "pseuo random" sequence
at the same moment. The MAIO will "offset" the sequence for each timeslot.<br /
>
<br />
The "pseudo random" property means it will perform a sequence that looks random,
but that in fact is not : the sequence of frequencies is fixed, and will keep r
epeating itself after one run.<A NAME="14719"></A></td></tr><tr><td><table borde
r="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td><img src="/images/dot
_white.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell
" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/images/dot_clear.gif" width="1" height="1"></td><
/tr><tr><td width="100%" class="sectioncell"><H2>Ashish Bansal<font face='Arial'
size='1'> - 2nd April 2007 &nbsp;(07:19 GMT)</FONT></H2></td></tr><tr><td width
="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/images/dot_clear.gif" widt
h="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_white.gif" width="1" he
ight="10"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>If HSN is the pseduo random sequen
ce of TCH freq hopping, then what is the use of MAIO STEP?<A NAME="14612"></A></
td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><
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width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="sectioncell"><H2>bor
at<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 24th March 2007 &nbsp;(00:52 GMT)</FONT></H2></
td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src="/image
s/dot_clear.gif" width="1" height="1"></td></tr><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_wh
ite.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>Erkan,<br />
Were you able to get an answer for your last question? If yes, can you please sh
are with us?<br />
<br />
Borat<A NAME="14268"></A></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cel
lspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td><img src="/images/dot_white.gif" width="1" hei
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class="sectioncell"><H2>pix<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 28th February 2007 &nb
sp;(21:55 GMT)</FONT></H2></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolo
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d></tr><tr><td>yes, you are absolutely right !<br />
<br />
1- HSN = 0 means a cyclic repetition of the pool of frequencies<br />
<br />
2- there is absolutely no SFH hopping on the TRX that carries the BCCH timeslot.
(there can be BBH hopping, but in this case, HSN is not used)<A NAME="14267"></
A></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100
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>lotfi<font face='Arial' size='1'> - 28th February 2007 &nbsp;(20:48 GMT)</FONT>
</H2></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" class="linecell" bgcolor="#D4D0C8"><img src=
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/dot_white.gif" width="1" height="10"></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>Hi all
,<br />
Dear Yen you said :<br />
_________________________________<br />
so, HSN =0, means cyclic hopping (no hopping, generally BCCH carrier)<br />
________________________________<br />
As i know cyclic hopping doesn't mean no hopping but hopping between frequencies
in the sequence with the same order each time. BCCH carrier should be a unique
frequency and there is no hopping..!<br />
Any one have more details plz<br />
best regards</td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
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