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Yonah I love my husband.
Depp do you..?
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Yonah yeah, theyre the same thing The ring fight story, love and posse are always fighting
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Yonah yes, yes, buts no relevant for
me
Yonah there are things we dont like, and the things we dont like its because theyre not pleasurables.
Pleasure for me is one and for you may be another, so thats why our pleasures will be adequated to what
we understand as a pleasure, something that our body is able to respond.
Depp so I can do everything with you, mrs..?
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Yonah everything that, for me, fits as a pleasure too.
Depp I like that, those things excites me, leave me more comfortable
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Yonah more comfortable, this that you refer Mr., its naturalness. Im going to tell you something that
my love told me: love is not a store of social increments where what one dresses is a common well, love is
undressed, if people loved one another, they would want one another. I dont have how to talk to you Mr.
and say that we were natural with one another if were not undressed.
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Yonah sure, if people loved each other, it would work this way, they would want one another.
Yonah exactly,
so good you sir
understood
Depp indeed I
didnt
understood..
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Depp what you mean, only women?
Yonah because man already has this capacity
of decision, who doesnt have it is the woman,
its something thats not in accordance with the
nature.
Depp love?
Yonah Exactly, love, how can love exist without
pleasure..?
Depp you mean sex..?
Yonah no, no, pleasure.., to like..
Depp but to like is necessarily sex..?
Yonah exactly, it isnt: but if theres no contact, therell
be no other way of knowing.
Depp Indeed, yes, but this would turn into unfeasible
any possibility of moral..
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Yonah thats the idea, I mean thats really the feeling, end up with the moral.
Depp you think that society is of those who love each other..? no,
you cant be serious! This is crazy!! Manson would love it!!!!
Yonah no he would not, just as you sir, one wants to analyze things by the
rational vein
Depp and is there another?
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Yonah the first vein is asking why someone looks for another one: the feeling, an uncontained desire,
not so well configured and not so well distributed, producing possibilities: think on how this would convert
into adornments, from the most brutal sex to an exacerbated Platonism, this without mentioning the
hours of temperamental absences for being thinking on the other person.
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Yonah exactly, there are two here.but how is this your two sir Depp? Because this is the geometric
vision of love: it admits primarily the existence of two unities... And what is this, exactly? A fix base?
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Yonah to talk about unity, fatally, and this is the word, we would result in God. You sir believe in many
things, and disbelieve in another ones a system which works in the base of one out and one in and even
though, pleads a hundred percent of functioning, it treats about a fake half, a deficient entire. The unity,
in the condition of truth, is a joke that the human being created on Earths costs. Its in these conditions
that the marriage was raised: a relation with God, the such alliance between the possessed and the
possessor. You sir want to understand the stepping away, at the same time on which you accept God as
the angle between the man and the woman: God is a third one, God is a geometric position: And the
stepping away of God, as the death of love. Is
how the adultery is understood, the sex outside
of the marriage: the adultery as a normative act,
and at the same time, dis-explanative, of love.
However, has the terminative status of
sentence: the love is involved in a criminology of
the mind. Lets admit that we are dreaming, that
weve met each other in the dream: and now,
your tutored will is temporarily stepped away of
your institutional shield.
Depp and wheres your husband in this
moment?
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Depp but how is this
possible?
Yonah lets forget the possibilities and the usual concepts of body and spirit. And, what we call of body,
is not indeed a body: and what we call of spirit, its not indeed a spirit: just geometric definitions of an
angled definition of the nature: and that, in this sense, without passing through me, you sir wont have
how to pass through the structure of the earth, which the dreams are related to. And even without
comprehending my colocations, lets admit that God is convenient with this: I mean, he is participating as
well.
Depp why would God do this...?
Yonah lets say that God doesnt worries with the adultery, that he knows that the human being is an
adulterous.. the adultery is a human creation to angle the virtue on nature
Depp but, this would be to unsay him
Yonah you sir dont like possibilities?
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Depp and whats happening is not a betrayal...?
Yonah how am I betraying, sir Depp, if my husband is present...?
Depp but Im not seeing him...
Yonah hes right here in front of you...
Depp you miss are not talking seriously....is this a joke? I am taking seriously
what you say
Yonah it is not a joke, but our seriousnesss are
different. But lets go forward with the
arguments: The alliance thats in my hand would
be yours in this moment? Did I stopped loving my husband because of
this?
Depp yes, but... why did you betrayed him?
Yonah were not in human conditions, sir Depp, we are dreaming... have you sir ever dreamed getting
laid with another woman, sometime? Or, your woman, you sir had so many, did any ever confidence
you the occurrence of the event? Its common to dream with another one? Is it common to remember
this as well? I mean, is it in the frames of normality[?], because those things are understood as dreams,
and that theyre little jokes that indeed dont exist are only part of the arsenal of fixation of human
ideas, of which the psychology has nothing on hands, except the synaptic-hormonal-remembrance-
reflection explanationsand that, for this, you sir cannot take seriously the result of a dream. But, in the
same mode, in such conditions, you sir couldnt, neither I, be judged: I say: to dream is a sin?
Depp I dont know, Im not strong in the scriptures, I mean, the own sin, for me is something
intangible Recently, I had a dream, that I was jailed, and I had been transformed into a lizard
Yonah Interesting and what happened?
Depp I dont know, I dont remember
Yonah exactly: we dont know why these things happens. But to deny them would be imbecility. Its the
such deficient integrity Think, if every night, you sir could dream with a different woman, and of her,
obtain a burning pleasure, a maddening pleasure and more yet, couldnt do nothing to block your mind
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Yonah ...and even more yet, you sir doesnt feel the slightest will of blocking it for this and, to win the
ten, God wouldnt do absolutely nothing, because indeed, nothing he can do it would be inherent to the
human creation.
Depp I think that God, understanding this as something malefic to the human being, would figure a way
of controlling the dreams
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Yonah and what would that be, to control the dreams?
Depp I think that the human will would become a hostage of something uncontrollable
Yonah but would God punish you for this? Would he understand this as an adultery? That, because of
this disease, this addiction, this weakness of which he himself had part in the Creation, could indeed
constitute itself into a crime, into a sin, and that, for this, you sir should be punished?
Depp I dont know answer
Depp indeed I dont have the understanding, but Id like to go back to the earthly conditions
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Yonah of course, but the earthly conditions are not the human
conditions You sir questions yourself why one looked for the other
one, because the truth so presents itself. But the look for, in the
nature, is something that occurs naturally among the animals and
plants, for being about essentialities. The misunderstanding of
something leaded to the control of this same misunderstood thing.:
and the values were created. The virtue exists in function of the
adultery, the regulation of a mystery, and the society raised itself above this. The man and the woman are
confess-defendants of their weaknesses, the feeling is regulated by law.. I think that the human being
arrived too fast to the comprehension of his own nature. From there, the man became a terrified one with
his own results. The human God needs to explain
better the dreams, and dis-angle them as artefact of
the imagination: Because, it was through the dreams
that he spoke to the human beings: No human being
ever saw God. Because God is entitled as a spirit.
There is, yes, a relation with the dreams and the
desires, and this is what were talking about. In mode
that, lets step away the adultery, because we are
dreaming. God also already got laid with humans,
dreaming indeed, he didnt want to talk nothing
about this, as indeed he also didnt wanted to explain
why the dreams are prohibited
Depp I never knew this
Yonah half truths...timed, without that no feeling is indeed involved.. what I propose is that we step away
the adultery and the own look for on itself, as its being understood, so that we can keep dreaming: act as
an animal, follow your instinct, and step away any rational activity: and that the decision be understood
as something natural, that indeed, were still not under natural conditions.
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Depp and what is this decision exactly?
Yonah its a step that happens
when the interest for
something.. something that
challenges the senses cannot
be denied, omitted, or deduced
by formulas. There would
always be imbued some value,
even if the explanation reaches
the supreme result of
explaining the heart, it wont be
able to completely silence it. Its
not a tentative of killing the
feeling or exhaust its forces, but
on the contrary, identify it as
source of pleasure.
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Yonah moralizing the
behavior conditions,
conditions of posture and
judgement alignment, thing
that the whore knows very
well.
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Yonah by the lyrics of his songs, he never loved anyone.. theres
no sense on killing nor yourself nor another one for love just
because the persons trash and this includes himself. This is about
justice, and love doesnt judge. Justice was that which separated
from love.
Yonah none.
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Yonah mutual desires senhor Depp, present themselves anyway, independent of any excuse, they may
be experimented or adorned, independently of this being a social gain or not, even if it weights over moral
the responsibility of the act. And second, justice, no, no, theres no justice, what would be existing its
love, what would lead to an interpretative condition that, if such a thing were not made, it would never
be exercised, experienced, what makes the society of mutual desires more natural.
Yonah yeah, if
moral is so
understood, more
immoral, but more
truly, no?
Depp maybe..
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Depp you understand what you
are doing as the risk of love?
Yonah no
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Depp loves not a challenge..? I had never listened to this before.
Depp It means, so, that you can fall in love with me.
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Yonah fall in love for you, senhor Depp?
You sir are a passionate man, your movie,
Don Juan de Marcos makes a pretty
interesting analysis, inclusive, your shrink
was also a very interesting man, Marlon
Brandon, and he was, for a long time, the
sexiest man in the world and much his of
image was planted and cultivated.
However, you, sir, in most of your movies,
deny your sex appeal, but exercise it in a
subtle way, and blames yourself and not
the script for such effects, in a way that is
not the theme, and Im not even treating as such, our meeting as an interview, because indeed, image is
a resultant factor.
Yonah I understood the problem that surrounds love as something that I entitled The Black Box.
Derivative words are easily addressed, Romeo and Juliet may be an ultimate case, but if they didnt died,
would they love each other forever? Or that may be understood as a circumstantial obligation?
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Yonah Every time that one tries to straighten feelings, there always
exists the rational point, and the question is quickly angled. And much
of what I came to do, and practically, everything I came to do, its
something that I already do naturally: Im involved with the
essentiality of something, the love. Theres a feeling, yes, but its transient in the same way thats a passant
as well. A temporalization may lead to an unstable concept of something that doesnt even attest its
existence. But its undeniable, as in the same way, perceptible, that the loves involved in a mental duel.
The word love possesses an own-meaning, inherited and acquired, much well contextualized. Perceive
how much weve talked and how much we diverge in our understanding, how many people already spoke,
how many movies were made, how many books were written about the issue, and the maximum that
love reaches is a deep liking, in such a way that I dont know whats your understanding about passion,
and my understanding is completely different. While we talked, we talked about many things, but all of
them seems to be related to the same thing: we talked about sex, talked about desires, talked about
pleasure: but always that those words are initialized, theyre dressed up with virtue, which stays on
standby to angle all the movements of the moral. Ora, sir Depp, you cannot live constantly saying to
yourself where are you Depp, why did you stepped away from me? Why arent you comfortable in my
presence...?...: this would be to admit that all your movements were already born possessed... its
something that I come affirming.. love seems to be tendentious to and unity, but, at the same time, when
we try to contextualize it, its easily framed, in such way that love seems to be a prompt thing, a result. In
a way that, I rather leave things like this, without a defined answer. But I advance you: such definitions
are not natural: and angle this questions is something that Id have immense pleasure on doing it, and,
extrapolate them on what rationality reaches. Love cannot be understood as an stationary state of mind,
something that involves the to-be. Perceive that you sir accepted something, and the memory of this
acceptation is hidden in the interior of mind.
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Depp and what is this
black box, exactly..?
Yonah the fear
Depp the fear..? and
what is this exactly..?
Yonah the unknown
Depp you, Ms., thinks Ive fear?
Yonah not of falling in love, I mean, people usually fear being alone, of loneliness.
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Yonah understand it as an enigma of reason. That Im not who created it. That is about a human
creation. Understand that nature looked for you, without
there being bigger whys for this.
Depp nature?
Yonah yes
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Depp I look at you, Mrs., and I start to
imagine things, and thismakes me be
more cautious than Id.. normally be.. but
theres a worry about this, have you
thought on the possibility of return? Were
practicing a..uhm..a dangerous game. I
already had many complicated
relationships, obsessive things, risks of life,
things that indeed I never bothered..
Depp in a certain
way, yesbut one
thing I understood
in life is that,
coming from a
woman everything
is strange..
Yonah woman is a
construction
Yonah I am not..
Depp but what
am I seeing?
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Depp and what are you seeing?
Yonah no.. it doesnt change nothing, thats the problem these are Unitarist concepts, and the
background is the family, the status quo of something that human race intends to defend. And then the
worries on the question which involves the permanence: the consequences are always involved in this
essential atom: man and woman: because whats at stake is the separation: mean it: the separation is
angle because it is putted forward: but whats this, other than prophesize?
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Yonah Besides the packaging of the being, the social conditions, the concept of humanity, its
embarrassing for the human being explain its own behavior. These questions may seem unsolvable and
to the philosophys eyes, this is a matter of hard access. In the same way thats know that such proposals,
accompanied of substantialism or not, are highly unstable, and thats exactly why theyre treated inside a
black box. I think that the object may not be so easily mangled or reconfigured in the unique and generous
intuit of providing acceptations, this cannot even be said as a result. Theres a seek for and an intended
result, due the belief that this is the better, because the result by itself its already a guarantee, butif we
think a little, we have that safety and guarantees are things that dont exist too, are adorns, the feeling of
accommodation: and this doesnt seem natural to me, because nature its dynamic, its expansive. I think
that, in determined moment we get tired and this may be understood as a result, but if we put this in a
linearity, its easy to perceive that the things that move us were another. And in this point, theres clear
indicium of separation. But not so distant of comprehension is that is something that operates in the
individual plain: signor Depp and the world. And the feeling of frustration, or even, realization, may or not
manifest: and a court of mind may or not be initialized. What I tell to signor is that theres an intelligence
that makes us act this way, the stability of judgement, the declaration of the existence of something,
something that guarantees the departure and the arrival, the permanence and the mental state.. but I tell
you that all this is a death concept, the certainty its the death. You, signor, may understand that kill or
die is a natural condition, and I tell you that it isnt, there is no separation on love: the death is a human
creation, is not something natural: but that in the plain of the conscience, works as the stepping away of
God: for being God a stationary condition of mind, a permanence, a position, a prison.
Depp lets say that I wanted that you passed more time...?
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Yonah I came without time..theres no time in the dreams
Depp would you spend one year here..?
Yonah it doesnt exist time,
sir Depp, time is a
greatness, theres no
greatness on nature, the
time cannot be understood as the passage of the feeling..for
it would be conditioning it to an end do you know quantify how much you will like someone?
Depp no..
Depp could you send me a copy of this manual..? seems like someone thought on everything..!
Yonah you sir think my answer is articulated..?
with pre-conceived results just like the ones of
the religious books you read?
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Depp impressive..! Ive never seen this. Im really curious you seem to have a knowledgethat was
hidden from the human beingsand I feel
really tempted to see where this history is
gonna give, I mean, where this dream is
gointo give..I feel, anyway, responsible
with anything that may happen here..even
because you are enchanter and I hope that
your passage here be the most pleasurable
possible.
Yonah me too..
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Depp there are somethings Id like to show you do you accompany me?
Yonah sure
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The Human Clock stopped dreaming. The human nature was absorbed. Remaining only the time of its
death: the life that God gave you.
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