Caterpillar Product Information

Salesgram
March 2002

Cat 365B L Series II

Preface The 365B L which was introduced in 1999 had a good reputation
with customers and operators as a replacement model for the
245B and 245D. The 365B L has been changed to improve its
performance and productivity. The improved 365B L is called
365B L Series II.

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Improvement of the 365B L The 365B L Series II includes the following improvements:
1) Increased engine horsepower by 5 percent
More power contributes to faster cycle time and more
productivity.
2) Increased lifting capacity
The lifting force is increased through larger boom cylinders
and changed boom and stick geometry. The hydraulic lifting
capacity is increased up to 16 percent over the previous 365B L.
3) New stick for reach boom (available third quarter 2002)
The R4.15 (13'7") stick is newly developed for the reach
boom. This stick is designed for use in trenching and general
excavation applications.
4) More durable bucket linkage
Bucket pins have increased diameter for 365B L Series II.
Pin retention method also changes from cross bolt type to flag
type. This improvement applies to both V-family and W-family
bucket linkages. The bucket families for the 365B L Series II
are called VB family and WB family.

Engine Horsepower The 3196 ATAAC engine used in the current 365B L is also used
for the 365B L Series II. The engine horsepower is increased by
5 percent from 287 kW/385 HP/390 PS to 302 kW/404 HP/410 PS.
The power increase is achieved with software changes in the
ADEM II (Advanced Diesel Engine Management) controller
and does not require any component changes.

Engine Performance
Unit 365B L Series II 365B L
Engine Model 3196 ATAAC 3196 ATAAC
BoreStroke mm (in) 130150 130150
(5.125.91) (5.125.91)
Displacement L (in )
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12.0 (730) 12.0 (730)
Engine HP kW/rpm 301/2000 287/2000
HP/rpm 404/2000 385/2000
PS/rpm 410/2000 390/2000
Max. Torque Nm/rpm 1770/ 1400 1687/1400
Emission EPA Tier 2 EPA Tier 2
Sound EU Stage 1 EU Stage 1

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The 365B L Series II uses larger boom cylinders and modified Improvement of
geometry for stick cylinder attachment locations for reach
configurations to increase lifting force. As a result, the
Lifting Capacity
hydraulic lifting capacity improves up to 18 percent compared
to the former model. Lift capacities limited by stability do
not change significantly.

1) Larger boom cylinders

The boom cylinders are increased in diameter for the
365B L Series II. A bore increase of 5.6 percent results in
an 11.4 percent increase in thrust. Other dimensions on the
boom cylinders and pins are increased to accommodate
the higher thrust loads. The following chart compares
the boom cylinder and pin dimensions.

Boom Cylinder Dimensions

Unit 365B L Series II 365B L
BoreRod mm (in) 190130 180125
Diameter (7.485.11) (7.094.92)
Stroke mm (in) 1792 (70.6) 1792 (70.6)
Cylinder Pin mm (in) 140 (5.51) 130 (5.11)
Diameter

2) Modified geometry of stick cylinder attachment points

for reach configurations
The stick cylinder for the reach boom configuration is moved
forward slightly. This relocation allows the thrust of the stick
cylinder to be used more effectively as the stick approaches
its maximum reach position. The result is increased lifting
capability for the stick. As a trade-off, cylinder relocation
reduces the stick lifting capability slightly when the stick
cylinder is fully extended (stick at minimum reach position).

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 2) These boom and stick geometry changes do not affect the
working ranges. However, the working ranges are affected
slightly by other stick changes that were necessary to prevent
bucket-to-stick interference as a result of the larger bucket
pins. Please refer to the Working Range table for detail
information on working range change.

3) Lifting performance
The chart on the next page compares lifting capacity. The chart
shows data for the reach boom, R3.6 (11'10") stick, 900 mm
(36") shoes and Heavy Lift ON for NACD version of the
365B L Series II and 365B L. Lifting capacity varies by front
linkage configuration and by source plant due to different
operation weight and bucket weights. Please refer to the
specalogs for your territory.

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 Lifting capacity comparison (NACD version)
With 900 mm (36") Shoes, Reach Boom, R3.6 (11'10") Stick and Heavy Lift On

Reach 10.0 ft 15.0 ft 20.0 ft 25.0 ft 30.0 ft 35.0 ft Max reach

365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L
Model 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L 365B L
Series II Series II Series II Series II Series II Series II Series II
Over front *15,800 *15,450 *13,500 *12,800
30.0 ft
Over side *15,800 *15,450 *13,500 *12,800
Over front *26,400 *22,750 *13,250 *12,600
25.0 ft
Over side *24,800 *22,750 *13,250 *12,600
Over front *31,600 *27,550 *27,950 *24,200 *24,150 *21,950 *13,350 *12,700
20.0 ft
Over side *31,600 *27,550 *24,050 *24,050 *17,700 *17,850 *13,200 *12,700
Over front *44,050 *38,550 *35,200 *30,700 *29,950 *25,950 *26,500 *22,850 *13,750 *13,100
15.0 ft
Over side *44,050 *38,550 *31,950 *30,700 *23,150 *23,200 *17,150 *17,250 *12,200 *12,350
Over front *50,250 *43,950 *38,750 *33,800 *32,000 *27,750 *26,350 *23,750 *14,500 *13,800
10.0 ft
Over side *42,850 *42,900 *30,100 *30,200 *22,150 *22,250 *16,650 *16,750 *11,750 *11,900
Over front *54,300 *47,500 *41,500 *36,150 *33,500 *29,200 *25,800 *24,400 *15,650 *14,900
5.0 ft
Over side *40,200 *40,400 *28,500 *28,700 *21,200 *21,350 *16,150 *16,300 *11,800 *11,950
Ground Over front *27,700 *29,300 *55,500 *48,550 *42,750 *37,250 *32,750 *29,850 *25,400 *24,350 *17,300 *16,500
Line Over side *27,700 *29,300 *38,750 *39,050 *27,450 *27,650 *20,500 *20,700 *15,750 *15,950 *12,450 *12,600
Over front *22,050 *23,400 *43,600 *45,050 *54,150 *47,300 *42,250 *36,800 *32,350 *29,300 *25,300 *23,000 *19,750 *18,850
5.0 ft
Over side *22,050 *23,400 *43,600 *45,050 *38,300 *38,550 *26,950 *27,150 *20,150 *20,350 *15,650 *15,850 *13,800 *13,950
Over front *40,650 *41,850 *64,350 *56,300 *50,250 *43,850 *39,600 *34,450 *31,150 *26,950 *20,350 *18,050
10.0 ft
Over side *40,650 *41,850 *63,000 *56,300 *38,500 *38,750 *26,950 *27,200 *20,250 *20,450 *16,350 *16,450
Over front *63,050 *59,300 *54,550 *47,550 *43,350 *37,750 *33,900 *29,400 *14,700 *14,850
15.0 ft
Over side *63,050 *59,300 *54,550 *47,550 *39,350 *37,750 *27,550 *27,750 *14,700 *14,850
Over front *39,600 *34,300 *31,400 *27,100 *23,400 *20,100 *22,850 *19,350
20.0 ft
Over side *39,600 *34,300 *31,400 *27,100 *23,400 *20,100 *22,850 *19,350
Note: * indicates that the load is limited by hydraulic rather than tipping capacity.

The R4.15 stick is 4.15 m (13'7") long. This stick is designed for Newly Designed R4.15 Stick
trenching and general excavation applications.
(available third quarter 2002)
1) Working performance
The working range dimensions and digging forces are
intermediate between the R4.67 (15'4") stick and the R3.6
(11'10") stick. Please refer to the Working Ranges table for
more detail specifications.

2) Buckets for R4.15 stick

The new R4.15 stick uses VB-family buckets. Because bucket
selection varies by plant, please consult your regional specalog
for guidance on bucket selection for the R4.15 stick.

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Durable Bucket Pins 1) Larger diameter bucket pins
The bucket pins are increased in diameter compared to the
365B L. The diameters of the bucket pins are shown in the
chart below. The stick nose boss, and pin brackets on the
bucket are also increased in size.

Bucket Pin Diameter

365B L Series II 365B L
Bucket Family VB WB V W
Bucket to Power Link mm (in) 110 (4.33) 120 (4.72) 90 (3.54) 100 (3.94)
Bucket to Stick mm (in) 120 (4.72) No change 110 (4.33) No change

2) Retention method
Previously, bucket pins were retained by a cross bolt with
double nuts. The 365B L Series II uses a flag type retention
method for the following pins for more secure retention.
2) Bucket to Power Link Pin
2) Bucket to Stick Pin
2) Bucket Cylinder to Power Link Pin
2) Stick to Idler Link Pin

Example of flag type retention Example of bolt type retention

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1) Shipping dimensions Shipping Dimensions
The redesigned stick cylinder geometry affects the shipping
dimension for boom top height slightly for reach boom
and Operating Weight
configurations.

Boom Top Height

Boom Reach Boom Mass Boom
Stick R4.67 R4.15 R3.6 R2.84 M3.0 M2.57
(15'4") (13'7") (11'10") (9'4") (9'10") (8'5")
365B L Series II 4960 4613 4390 4200 4560 4600
(16'3") (15'2") (14'5") (13'9") (15'0") (15'1")
365B L 5020 Not 4450 4160 4560 4600
(16'6") Available (14'7") (13'8") (15'0") (15'1")

Overall Transport Length

Boom Reach Boom Mass Boom
Stick R4.67 R4.15 R3.6 R2.84 M3.0 M2.57
(15'4") (13'7") (11'10") (9'4") (9'10") (8'5")
365B L Series II 13 150 13 205 13 290 13 290 12 130 12 140
(43'2") (43'4") (43'7") (43'7") (39'10") (39'10")
365B L 13 150 Not 13 290 13 290 12 130 12 140
(43'2") Available (43'7") (43'7") (39'10") (39'10")

2) Operating weight for existing configurations

The larger boom cylinders, larger bucket linkage
pins, redesigned geometry of stick cylinder for reach fronts
and also reinforcement of front linkage and upper structure
result in increased operating weight for the 365B L Series II.
The following chart shows incremental weight increases for
various front linkage combinations. The total machine operating
weight varies by source plant. Please refer to the specalog in
your territory for actual operating weight.

Incremental Weight for 365B L Series II

Boom Reach Boom Mass Boom
Stick R4.67 R3.6 R2.84 M3.0 M2.57
(15'4") (11'10") (9'4") (9'10") (8'5")
Incremental Weight +450 +560 +450 +360 +360
(+990) (+1240) (+990) (+790) (+790)

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 3) Operating weight for R4.15 stick
The weight of the R4.15 stick is 190 kg (410 lb) heavier than
the R3.6 stick. Estimates of total machine operating weight
with this stick need to take bucket weight into consideration,
also. For optimum performance, the R4.15 stick should be
equipped with a slightly smaller (lighter) bucket than can be
applied on the R3.6 stick.

Interchangeability 1) Bucket-to-stick interchangeability

The V family buckets and W family buckets for the 365B L are
not interchangeable with the VB family buckets and WB family
buckets for the 365B L Series II. The buckets and bucket
linkages for the 365B L Series II (VB family and WB family)
cannot be used with the sticks for the 365B L. And, the buckets
and bucket linkage for the 365B L (V family and W family)
cannot be used with the sticks for the 365B L Series II.

2) Boom-to-machine interchangeability
As a result of the boom and boom cylinder redesign for the
365B L Series II, the booms and the boom cylinders are not
interchangeable between the 365B L and the 365B L Series II.
Booms for 365B cannot be mounted on a 365B L Series II and
booms for a 365B L Series II cannot be mounted on a 365B L.

3) Mass Excavation Stick-to-boom interchangeability

Mass excavation sticks for 365B L can be mounted on
booms for 365B L Series II. Mass excavation sticks for
365B L Series II can be mounted on booms for 365B L.

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4) Reach Stick-to-boom interchangeability
As a result of the relocated stick cylinder on the reach boom,
there is limited interchangeability of reach booms and sticks
between the 365B L and 365B L Series II as shown in the
table below.

365B L Reach Sticks

R4.67 R3.6 R2.84
(15'4") (11'10") (9'4")
365B L Series II Reach Boom Yes No No
365B L Series II Reach Sticks
R4.67 R4.15 R3.6 R2.84
(15'4") (13'7") (11'10") (9'4")
365B L Reach Boom Yes* Yes Yes Yes*
Yes Compatible
Yes* Will require minor modifications for fit up.
No Not compatible. Current stick has insufficient strength and/or interference between boom and stick.

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 Working Ranges
365B L Series II
Boom Reach Boom Mass Boom
Stick R4.67 R4.15 R3.6 R2.84 M3.0 M2.57
(15'4") (13'7") (11'10") (9'4") (9'10") (8'5")
Maximum Digging Depth mm 9460 8940 8390 7630 7170 6750
(ft) (31'0") (29'4") (27'6") (25'0") (23'6") (22'2")
Maximum Reach at Ground Level mm 14 040 13 490 12 980 12 340 11 240 10 840
(ft) (46'1") (44'3") (42'7") (40'6") (36'11") (35'7")
Maximum Cutting Height mm 13 090 12 070 12 440 12 210 10 850 10 680
(ft) (42'11") (39'7") (40'10") (40'1") (35'7") (35'0")
Maximum Loading Height mm 9190 8830 8600 8440 7090 6920
(ft) (30'2") (29'0") (28'3") (27'8") (23'3") (22'8")
Minimum Loading Height mm 2420 2940 3490 4250 2910 3330
(ft) (7'11") (9'8") (11'5") (13'11") (9'7") (10'11")
Maximum Depth Cut for 2440 mm mm 9350 8820 8260 7480 7020 6580
(8'9") Level Bottom (ft) (30'8") (28'11") (27'1") (24'6") (23'0") (21'7")
Maximum Vertical Wall mm 8480 7790 7080 5870 5340 4950
Digging Depth (ft) (27'10") (25'7") (23'3") (19'3") (17'6") (16'30")
Bucket kN 265 265 264 277 330 330
Digging Force (lb) (59,600) (59,550) (59,300) (62,300) (74,200) (74,200)
(SAE) Stick kN 193 209 230 257 254 277
(lb) (43,400) (46,970) (51,700) (57,750) (57,080) (62,250)
Bucket kN 302 302 301 316 384 383
Digging Force (lb) (67,870) (67,870) (67,640) (71,010) (86,290) (86,070)
(ISO) Stick kN 199 216 239 268 265 290
(lb) (44,720) (48,540) (53,710) (60,220) (59,550) (65,170)
Lifting Capacity Shoe Width mm (in) 900 (36) 900 (36) 900 (36) 900 (36) 750 (30) 750 (30)
Over Front kg *25 050 *25 450 *25 650 *25 500 *29 600 *29 150
6 m (20 ft) (lb) (*54,100) (*55,000) (*55,500) (*55,200) (*68,950) (*68,000)
Reach Over Side kg 18 200 18 100 18 050 17 950 28 550 28 450
(lb) (29,100) (38,950) (38,750) (38,550) (61,200) (61,000)
Over Front kg *5450 *6600 *7850 *8500 *5550 *6750
Maximum (lb) (*12,000) (*14,500) (*17,300) (*18,750) (*12,250) (*14,900)
Reach Over Side kg 4600 5100 5650 6350 *5550 *6750
(lb) (10,100) (11,250) (12,450) (14,000) (*12,250) (*14,900)
Note: Lifting capacities shown for NACD version. Please refer to the specalogs for your territory.

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 Working Ranges
365B L
Boom Reach Boom Mass Boom
Stick R4.67 R3.6 R2.84 M3.0 M2.57
(15'4") (11'10") (9'4") (9'10") (8'5")
Maximum Digging Depth mm 9470 8400 7640 7170 6750
(ft) (31'1") (27'7") (25'1") (23'6") (22'2")
Maximum Reach at Ground Level mm 14 040 12 980 12 340 11 240 10 840
(ft) (46'1") (42'7") (40'6") (36'11") (35'7")
Maximum Cutting Height mm 13 080 12 460 12 250 10 880 10 710
(ft) (42'11") (40'11") (40'2") (35'8") (35'2")
Maximum Loading Height mm 9180 8590 8430 7080 6920
(ft) (30'1") (28'2") (27'8") (23'3") (22'8")
Minimum Loading Height mm 2420 3490 4240 2910 3330
(ft) (7'11") (11'5") (13'11") (9'7") (10'11")
Maximum Depth Cut for 2440 mm mm 9040 7980 7210 6710 6290
(8'9") Level Bottom (ft) (29'8") (26'2") (23'8") (22'0") (20'8")
Maximum Vertical Wall mm 8490 7270 6150 5500 5100
Digging Depth (ft) (27'11") (23'10") (20'2") (18'1") (16'9")
Bucket kN 265 264 277 330 330
Digging Force (lb) (59,600) (59,300) (62,300) (74,200) (74,200)
(SAE) Stick kN 193 230 253 253 276
(lb) (43,400) (51,700) (56,900) (56,900) (62,000)
Bucket kN 302 301 316 384 383
Digging Force (lb) (67,870) (67,640) (71,010) (86,290) (86,070)
(ISO) Stick kN 199 239 264 264 290
(lb) (44,720) (53,710) (59,330) (59,330) (65,170)
Lifting Capacity Shoe Width mm (in) 900 (36) 900 (36) 900 (36) 750 (30) 750 (30)
Over Front kg *21 750 *22 450 *22 100 *21 300 *21 400
6 m (20 ft) (lb) (*46,950) (*48,550) (*47,950) (*46,000) (*46,250)
Reach Over Side kg 18 150 18 150 17 900 17 300 17 300
(lb) (39,050) (39,050) (38,500) (37,100) (37,150)
Over Front kg *5150 *7500 *7450 *5600 *6800
Maximum (lb) (*1,350) (*16,500) (*16,400) (*12,350) (15,000)
Reach Over Side kg 4650 5700 6350 *5600 *6800
(lb) (10,200) (12,600) (13,950) (*12,350) (*15,000)
Note: Lifting capacities shown for NACD version. Please refer to the specalogs for your territory.

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