Vous êtes sur la page 1sur 10

" Resources # My Courses English (United States) (en_us)

(en_us)

LEAD 636 999Peterson,


Issues Dawn
in Leadership Foundatn -
SP2017
Dashboard Spring Semester 2017 SP2017-LEAD-636-999 * Module Discussions *
Week 2: What is Real? God Said It, I Believe It

Search forums

!
NAVIGATION
Week 2: What is Real?
Dashboard
Site home
God Said It, I Believe It
Site pages
Subscribe
Current course
SP2017-LEAD-
636-999 Discussion Area Progress God is real!
Participants
Display replies in nested form
Badges
Home
Modules God Said It, I Believe It
(part I) by Peterson, Dawn - Wednesday, January 18, 2017, 5:23 PM
Week 1
Knight makes this comment in his book on Christian philosophy, It
Week 2 might be said that it is impossible even to begin to arrive at a correct
Week 3 perspective of the world until people realize the color of the glasses
Week 4 they are wearing (Knight, 2006, pp. Kindle Locations 258-259). This
Week 5 caught my attention because for years, I have told my husband that he
sees me through rose colored glasses. According to Knight, we all see
Week 6
the world through one color of glasses or another. I have never thought
Week 7
it important to figure out what comprises my worldview, but as I read
Week 8 chapters one and two of this book I began to realize that how we see the
* Reflections world colors everything, in how we react to those around us, our
(part II) * communication and even our perspectives.
* Reflection
In his video on Learning Hub, Knight states that there are three
Activities *
questions that are the core content of philosophy. What is real, true and
Reflection
has value? These questions reminds me of a verse found in Philippians
Paper
4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is
Reflection right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirableif
Presentation anything is excellent or praiseworthythink about such things. New
(3 cr) International Version (NIV). We are admonished to think about such
Course things, for me, this has taken on new meaning. As I go through this
Journal philosophy class, I will be looking for what is real, what is truth, and
Sharing what has value as I build my worldview through a carefully thought
Space through study of these items.

NEWS In answer to question one of our discussion prompt, I now believe that
Water Cooler it is important to understand why I see the world as I do and this will
* Module help me to understand how others view the world as they do. Which
Discussions leads me to the second prompt question, what is real?
* This summer we read the book Blindspot (2013) and I found out that I
Week 1: had preconceived biases that I was not aware of. I had prided myself as
Introduct being fairly bias free and then I read the book and took the online bias
ions and tests and frankly was taken back by the results. I had hidden biases.
first Knight comments that we need to become aware of our personal
questions predispositions (biases and beliefs) and once we are, then we can
Week 2: understand why we interpret the world the way we do (Location 259).
What is
Back to the question, what is real and how do we know its real? I think
Real?
it comes down to our perspective of how we believe that we acquire
God knowledge. In his second chapter Knight talks about the ways people
Said view what is real. This is the study of metaphysics, but the difficulty
It, I comes in how we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that what we
Believ believe to be real is actually real.
e It
Let me give you an example. Most of us know the phrase that seeing is
Syllabus:
believing, but a few years back I took a college Photoshop class for a
Question
technology requirement I needed. The teacher had a class on morality in
s&
photos particularly as it relates to Photoshop. She showed us a photo by
Comment
Brian Walski, a photojournalist for Los Angeles Times during the war in
s
Iraq. It was a compelling photo of a soldier stopping a man carrying a
Week 3:
child. But then she showed us the original photos. They tell a different
What is
story. The photo was altered using Photoshop to make the composition
Truth/Kn
look more dramatic. This just goes to prove the point that even when we
owledge?
see with our eyes, we cannot accept it as ultimate reality. So if we cant
(Include
trust our eyes, what do we trust?
Activity...
Week 4: I think it comes down to faith. One must accept the existence of God at
What is some basic level in order to see the working of the Lord in our lives.
of Value? How we believe we acquire knowledge becomes important in the face of
Week 4 faith. Later in the chapter Knight talks about the different viewpoints
Activity: regarding the acquisition or sources of knowledge, which Im sure we
Learning will talk about more in future weeks, but the important view to me was
the source of Revelation. If we can see things around us made by God
such as nature and we can feel it, and we believe that Gods revelation in
from His holy word is truth, then we must take it on faith. Knight states that if
Little your source of knowledge comes through Revelation then you must
Children accept it by faith and cannot be proved or disproved empirically
Week 5: (Location 521). Knight also states that all people have faith, even the
What is a agnostic lives by a faith. The acceptance of a particular position in
Worldvie metaphysics and epistemology is a faith choice made by individuals,
w? and it entails a commitment to a way of life (Locations 591-593).
Week 5 So what is my answer to the second prompt question about the role
Activity: faith and evidence play in what I know is reality? Without making this
This too simplistic, I want to answer in closing by quoting the words from the
week I... song sung by Doug Oldham God Said It, I Believe It, That Settles It.
Week 6:
Faith is the essence of things unseen
The
Worldvie The substance of things hoped for
w of the
God's word has said it and I believe it
World
Week 6
Activity:
For the miracle has happened to me
Revealing
the
World's
God said it and I believe it
Worldvie
w and that settles it for me
Week 7: God said it and I believe it
Worldvie
w and that settles it for me
Perspecti Though some may doubt that His word is true
ves
I've chosen to believe it, now how about you?
Week 7
Activity: God said it and I believe it
Favorite
And that settles it for me
Leadershi
p Quote
Week 8:
Do you believe that God created you
Me and
the Just like He told you in His word?
Christian
Do you believe that every world in space
Worldvie
w Came to place by His own power?
Week 8 Do you believe that God can change your life
Activity:
Observin And give you freedom from your sin?
ga He'll open every door that blocks the way
Leader in You can say within...
Action
(ver...
Feedback God said it and I believe it
on
and that settles it for me
Discussio
n Posts God said it and I believe it

My and that settles it for me


Philosophy
Though some may doubt that His word is true
My
Worldview I've chosen to believe it, now how about you?
...Help...
God said it and I believe it
Course
Resources And that settles it for me

How-To
Videos
God is the Author and He's the ending
Writing Help
Course Of all that I believe in
Videos Life more abundant is yours for the asking
My courses
The miracle can happen to you
Learner Dashboard

God said it and I believe it


$
and that settles it for me
ADMINISTRATION
God said it and I believe it
Forum
administration and that settles it for me
Optional Though some may doubt that His word is true
subscription
I've chosen to believe it, now how about you?
Subscribe to
this forum God said it and I believe it
Subscribe to
and that settles it for me
this discussion
God said it and I believe it
Course
administration and that settles it for me.

(Adams & Braun, 1973)

COURSE
SEARCH References
Adams, S., & Braun, G. (1973). God Said It, I Believe It [Recorded by D.
Oldham]. On To God Be the Glory. Pilot Point Music.

Banji, M. R., & Greenwald, A. G. (2013). Blindspot: hidden biases of good


Go . people [Electronic Version] Retrieved from
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blindspot-mahzarin-r-
banaji/1102334630?ean=9780345528438

Knight, G. R. (2006). Philospohy & Education: An introduction in christian


perspective [Kindle Version] Retrieved from
https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Education-Introduction-Christian-
Perspective-ebook/dp/B00IDJGDVA/ref=mt_kindle?
_encoding=UTF8&me=

Takikawa, I. (2014). Altering Reality. Retrieved from


http://unfiltered.sjmc.umn.edu/index-p=11.html

Permalink | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Aka, Sharon - Thursday, January 19, 2017, 4:51 AM

I love it Dawn! I just actually sang the whole song as I read your post

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Reece, Steven - Thursday, January 19, 2017, 10:11 AM

Dawn,

I enjoyed reading your post and how you weaved your citations
throughout your post. I agree with you that issues relating to how we
live and what believe are faith choices formed by our underlying
worldviews and philosophical assumptions.

I appreciate the example that you used concerning the dangers and
power of Photoshop in relationship ethical and moral choices. I
resonated with Knight's statement about an ethical theory being
"concerned with providing right values as the foundation for right
actions" (p. 29).
Behaviors and values are linked. Knight referenced this linkage by
noting the work of what I call "the two Morris'" (Charles and Van
Cleave). Charles Morris developed the notion of what people value by
what they say and do (conceived and operational values), while Van
Cleave Morris considers the question of "what we ought to do" (p. 28).

Would you think that the photographer and/or the editor, who
manipulated the photograph in question were consciously aware of
the ethical/moral choice that they made and its consequences? In
other words, did they initially manipulate the photograph? And, if so,
what are the implications of their choice? What should they have
done?

Thank you for your interesting post.

Steven

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Reis, Thai Thaisa - Thursday, January 19, 2017, 1:59 PM

Hi, Dawn!

I also "think it comes down to faith". It is hard to explain to people


that do not believe in God! But for us, it is so easy to say, just
because... there is a Brazilian book called The Rescue of Truth, and it
shows evidence about our faith!

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Maidom, Ritha - Friday, January 20, 2017, 12:43 AM

Hi Dawn

I enjoyed reading your post! Like you, I used to think that I didn't
have any issue with bias. (Haha...It feels funny that I used to think
that way... ) I have learned to acknowledge my bias and recognize
that there might still be some biases in me that I have not
realized. Knight (2006) points out that "No one is neutral..."(p.7).
An awareness of this truth will enable us to recognize some of the
influential factors - obvious or subtle - in our interpretation of our
experience. It will also make it easier for us to understand
perspectives that are different from ours.

Ritha
Reference

Knight, G.R. (2006). Philosophy & education: An introduction in


Christian perspective (4th ed.). Berrien Springs, M: Andrews
University Press.

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Ellis, Timothy - Saturday, January 21, 2017, 8:44 AM

Hi Dawn,

I liked your starting point of Philippians 4:8: "Finally, brothers,


whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure,
whatever is lovely, whatever is admirableif anything is excellent or
praiseworthythink about such things. I think that's a great place to
start in building a Christian philosophy of leadership and education.
When I took Philosophy of Education in the undergrad, our teacher
required us to read through the book of Proverbs and the Education by
Ellen White and write down all the principles of education and
methods of teaching that we found. Those two tasks were also really
meaningful for me and have stuck with me ever since. I still have the
list of principles that I gleaned back then.

I also liked your photo shop example. I think at some point one does
have to jump to the experiencing step and test out things for one self.
That's why I like John Dewey as a philosopher because he emphasized
that really everything starts with experience, not with universals, like
Plato tried to do. You've got to build from the ground up, both in
deciding what you believe about truth and value and reality, and also
about whether to believe in God. It starts with experience. At some
point a person has to decide to test God out and see if he is really up
there, not just for someone else, but for them.

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Ramos Ramos, Miguel - Sunday, January 22, 2017, 5:01 PM

It is being my motto many times in my preaching if God say it I


belief. I just was repeating what I have learned, but after studding
this first chapters if I want to conserve this position I need to consider
also how I got Gods knowledge and how is it that he became the
authority that I will belief. When I was a teenager the question came
to me: Why am I Adventist? Why do I belief in what I belief? Why do I
go to church on Sabbath? These and other questions surrounded me
and required answer if I want it to survive Christianity and pastors kid
life since before those questions the answer for all of the where
because of my parents. By that time, I didnt know even the word
philosophy. I start studding and reading and experimenting and one
thing was clear in all my investigation; God was then and is now the
authority I learn to believe. As the authority, he reveals himself in his
word, and his power is seen in nature. If he say it I believe it its only
possible if by faith I make him my authority and accept him as my
Lord.

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Nanasi, Erwin - Sunday, January 22, 2017, 8:29 PM

Hi fellow class mate! I felt the same way in regards to blind spots. It's
that awkward moment of pondering, do I really want to know my
hidden blindspots? If I don't, well then I wouldn't know... but once I
do, many different aspects of one's worldview can be affected by it.
Wow, if I wasn't aware of this, I wonder what else is oblivious to me! It
certainly did make me more aware and cautious at the same time,
especially as we are now considering, goals, values and the essence of
our basis of faith, reality and truth. It gives me a greater appreciation
for divine revelation, our minds to reason and our senses.

Interestingly enough David declares that he actually knows what is


real/ truth and I believe so can we. May God help us to adequately to
so.

Psalm 139: 14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully


made;

Marvelous are Your works,

And that my soul knows very well.

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Shadle, Eric - Sunday, January 22, 2017, 10:49 PM

Dawn,
I really appreciated your post! Actually, it looks like we both came to
the same basic conclusion that there is a certain amount that we must
take on faith when determining what is real. The question I have for
you is this. Is it possible to change the tint of our glasses once we
become aware of them? The fact that your husband views you
through "rose colored glasses" is a wonderful thing (and a prerequisite
for a good husband). He knows he sees you in a different light than
others do, but does he care? Of course he cares about you, but does he
care that he has an altered perspective of you? I would argue that he
probably enjoys his view of you. When I watch a 3D movie, I know I am
watching through funny, red and blue lenses, but I know the movie
would be worse without them. I am glad for the glasses. Actually, the
movie is intended to be seen through that lens. Does that mean that
reality is viewed through that lens even though it is altered from what
our eyes would normally see?

My point is that viewing the world through rose colored glasses is not
necessarily a bad thing and it may even be God's intended reality. We
can't know for certain. I agree with you in that I choose to accept
God's word as truth on a fundamental level. This is one of my core
beliefs and, therefore, it influences many of my actions and choices. I
view the world through a Christian lens and I like it that way.

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Re: God Said It, I Believe It


by Ellis, Timothy - Thursday, January 26, 2017, 10:18 PM

I liked your 3D illustration. A great illustration. Some things were


made to be seen through rose colored glasses. But how far we
should go with that is the question. Many people choose to put
blinders on and deny "reality" in ways that hurts not only them but
others. So we have to be cautious about how far we apply it or even
situationally in our own lives. Sometimes we need to take off the
glasses in order to play a different role in someone else's life than
we may perhaps do otherwise. Is there ever a time for that as well?

Permalink | Show parent | Reply

Discussion Area Progress God is real!

You are logged in as Peterson, Dawn (Log out)


saas-app10c